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1. #1
   On June 24th, 2004 at 1:03 pm, Allan said:

   Let’s see…it is forbidden, but there is a prescribed method for it. Must be a higher form of reasoning. When we capture the scum, oops, mis-directed fellows who did it, that it was done improperly may be a heavier charge than that they did it at all.

   It is comforting though, isn’t it?

   Allan

2. #2
   On June 24th, 2004 at 1:10 pm, Expertise said:

   Boy, that Islam sure is a religion of peace, huh?

   I wonder how they, or anyone, could think any type of killing is humane. It never bothers them to think twice about the actions they are taking?

   My bad. In order for them to do that, they must be human.

   I’m embarrassed that I used to pick up a Koran from time to time and slightly considered converting. Thank goodness I changed my mind on that.

3. #3
   On June 24th, 2004 at 1:16 pm, Miss Beca said:

   maybe killing isn’t all bad if you ask forgiveness after, cause then…um….
   okay, i got nothing here.

   but, to be fair, there are some christians i know who behave similarly–do what you want, apologize to the Guy Upstairs, repeat.

   b

4. #4
   On June 24th, 2004 at 1:23 pm, Athena said:

   With the help of Robert Spencer, I’m beginning research on my thesis that will be arguing that the Islamist writer Qutb (who inspired many jihadists today) was not a heretic or deviant from the true religion of Islam, but a traditionalist.

   Mr. Hamod’s comments magnify this.

   If not for the serious subject matter, the way in which these people contradict themselves would be laughable.

5. #5
   On June 24th, 2004 at 1:29 pm, Watcher said:

   If “smite at their necks” isn’t a reference to beheading, then what the heck is it supposed to mean… punching people in the throat?

6. #6
   On June 24th, 2004 at 1:36 pm, bleedingbrain said:

   Hah…I feel much better having read that excerpt.

   I can rest easy knowing that when I am captured by Islamic terrorists, I can appeal to their knowledge of the Koran which plainly gives me the right to say a prayer before my throat slitting.

   Thankfully, the good book recommends that my head not be fully separated from my body but rather be left attached with a flap of skin and my spine column.

   This bit of insight makes me far more likely to travel to the Middle East.

   The Koran, I am assured, acts as a kind of Bill of Rights that confers dignity upon my decapitated cadaver.

7. #7
   On June 24th, 2004 at 1:45 pm, Xrlq said:

   Time for Oprah to do a segment called Islam 102, in which her viewers finally learn that Islam doesn’t really mean “peace” after all; it means slitting people’s throats in the right way.

8. #8
   On June 24th, 2004 at 1:47 pm, Frank J. said:

   The instant reaction of most Americans after 9/11 was to assume that Islam is a good religion and that the terrorists are the exception. It’s the tolerance model we’ve adopted (and I can’t say I’m against it), but few (inlcuding myself) really know what most Muslims are taught to believe. If Islam is incompatible with peace, do you think any politician would have the courage to make that declaration?

9. #9
   On June 24th, 2004 at 1:58 pm, Hosein said:

   I find Mr. Hamod’s lack of knowledge about Islam disturbing. The Qur’an doesn’t categories Christians and Jews as infidels, but are called “The people of the Book” and Muslims are required to respect their faiths. Infidels are those who deny God and wage war against the Prophet Muhammad and Islam. There are rules for interpreting the Quran, it must be interpreted from its original Arabic, not a translation, and you must take its context into consideration as well.
   It is a shame that the second largest religion on Earth is so easily discredited by someone the Muslim community in America doesn’t even know. These verses of self defense to the Prophet are taken out of context by the terrorist and Mr. Hamod. There are thousands of other verses teaching tolerance, respect, equality, justice, lessons of history of those who went against God, but lets not discuss those lets just take one verse out of context and have three terrorists redefine the religion of 1.5 billion people.

10. #10
    On June 24th, 2004 at 2:12 pm, Julie said:

    I might be more inclined to believe Muslims are peace loving if they hadn’t been so silent after the beheadings. Where is the outcry from American Muslims and other Muslims throughout the world. Christians are taught to believe that you are judged by others by your actions. Do we hold the same standards for Muslims?

11. #11
    On June 24th, 2004 at 2:36 pm, Hosein said:

    For the America Muslim response please see http://www.cairnet.org, http://www.isna.net, http://www.masnet.org to name just a few. We are not so fortunate to own media stations and have media persons who are knowledgeable or hold a fair view of Islam in America. But we use the means we have.

12. #12
    On June 24th, 2004 at 2:37 pm, Allen said:

    Actually, I was shocked to see in today’s St. Louis (Com)Post-Dispatch, a letter from the leader of the local CAIR organization. I’ve taken the liberty of posting it here and providing a link to it. This is the first time I’ve seen any sort of condemnation for the activities of Islamicists from other members of Islam.

    Maybe they are starting to get the message?

    Link: http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/News/Editorial+%2F+Commentary/AB73721EDF44BB3386256EBD00398972?OpenDocument&Headline=LETTERS%3A+We‘re+not+safer%3B+killings+are+condemned%3B+jobs+up+or

    Text:

    Muslims here
    condemn killings

    On behalf of the St. Louis Muslim community, the Council on American-Islamic Relations condemns the murder of our fellow American, Paul M. Johnson, in Saudi Arabia on Friday, as well as the killing of Kim Sun-il of South Korea on Tuesday at the hands of terrorists.

    The senseless violence in the region is in no way, shape or form reflective of the teachings of Islam. We repudiate all acts of violence and dissociate ourselves from any group or individual who commits such brutal and un-Islamic acts, even if they call themselves Muslims.

    This murder was committed by severely misguided individuals who acted outside the teachings of both the Quran and the Prophet Mohammed. Nothing can ever justify the massacre of innocent people, and no act of terror will ever serve the cause of Islam.

    We offer condolences and prayers to the families of both victims.

    Kamal Yassin
    St. Louis Chapter,
    Council on American-Islamic
    Relations
    St. Louis

13. #13
    On June 24th, 2004 at 2:44 pm, La Shawn Barber said:

    Off-topic: Michelle, you’ve been blogging for only two weeks and you’ve already surpassed my 6-month-earned “Large Mammal” status in the ecosystem!;)

    I’m glad you’re enjoying blogging. It’s definitely addictive. I’d do more of it if I didn’t have a pesky day job getting in the way.

14. #14
    On June 24th, 2004 at 3:13 pm, AWG said:

    I’d certainly like to believe that the views expressed in Mr. Yassin’s letter to the editor are majoritarian. One certainly hopes that letters such as this are a promising first step in a cogent response by Moderate Muslims against their murderous counterparts, rather than the sum total of that response. I pray that if the terrorists are indeed slandering the name of Islam, that those Muslims who are being slandered with it will do everything in their power to put a stop to it.

15. #15
    On June 24th, 2004 at 3:19 pm, rightwingduck said:

    I don’t know what’s worse. The fact that there is an official way to slit the throat, or the fact that the Democrats might hire these people for their next recruiting drive.

16. #16
    On June 24th, 2004 at 5:22 pm, Freedom Reign said:

    More teachings from the Religion of Peace™

    Qur’an 8:12 “Your Lord inspired the angels with the message: ‘I will terrorize the unbelievers. Therefore smite them on their necks and every joint and incapacitate them. Strike off their heads and cut off each of their fingers and toes.”

    Tabari VIII:179 “Abdallah bin Sa’d fled to Uthman, his brother, who after hiding him, finally surrendered him to the Prophet. Uthman asked for clemency. Muhammad did not respond, remaining silent for a long time. Muhammad explained, ‘By Allah, I kept silent so that one of you might go up to him and cut off his head!’ ”

    Ishaq:369 “Thereupon Mas’ud leapt upon Sunayna, one of the Jewish merchants with whom his family had social and commercial relations and killed him. The Muslim’s brother complained, saying, ‘Why did you kill him? You have much fat in your belly from his charity.’ Mas’ud answered, ‘By Allah, had Muhammad ordered me to murder you, my brother, I would have cut off your head.’ Wherein the brother said, ‘Any religion that can bring you to this is indeed wonderful!’ And he accepted Islam.”

    Ishaq:304/Tabari VII:62 “I cut off Abu Jahl’s head and brought it to the Messenger. ‘O Allah’s Prophet, this is the head of the enemy of Allah.’ Muhammad said, ‘Praise be to Allah.’ ”

    Tabari VII:97/Ishaq:368 “We carried Ka’b’s head and brought it to Muhammad during the night. We saluted him as he stood praying and told him that we had slain Allah’s enemy. When he came out to us we cast Ashraf’s head before his feet. The Prophet praised Allah that the poet had been assassinated and complimented us on the good work we had done in Allah’s Cause. Our attack upon Allah’s enemy cast terror among the Jews, and there was no Jew in Medina who did not fear for his life.’ ”

    Ishaq:464 “The Jews were made to come down, and Allah’s Messenger imprisoned them. Then the Prophet went out into the marketplace of Medina, and he had trenches dug in it. He sent for the Jewish men and had them beheaded in those trenches. They were brought out to him in batches. They numbered 800 to 900 boys and men.”

    Tabari VIII:38 “The Messenger of Allah commanded that all of the Jewish men and boys who had reached puberty should be beheaded. Then the Prophet divided the wealth, wives, and children of the Banu Qurayza Jews among the Muslims.”

    Tabari VIII:40 “The Messenger commanded that furrows should be dug in the ground for the Qurayza. Then he sat down. Ali and Zubayr began cutting off their heads in his presence.”

    Tabari VIII:122/Ishaq:515 “The Prophet gave orders concerning Kinanah to Zubayr, saying, ‘Torture him until you root out and extract what he has. So Zubayr kindled a fire on Kinanah’s chest, twirling it with his firestick until Kinanah was near death. Then the Messenger gave him to Maslamah, who beheaded him.”

17. #17
    On June 24th, 2004 at 5:31 pm, Lars Walker said:

    It might properly be noted that many bloodthirsty passages could be lifted from the Christian Bible too, and marched out in an embarrassing parade…

    However, it would also be true that those passages pretty much all come from the Old Testament, and Jesus Christ presents a notably stark contrast, when set beside Muhammed.

18. #18
    On June 24th, 2004 at 5:35 pm, Xrlq said:

    Hosein’s point is well taken. Unlike some of the past “we don’t condone terrorism, but…” comments we’ve heard in the past, CAIR’s more recent statements and their current online petition (http://www.cair-net.org/default.asp?SubPage=Petition1#petition) attack Islamic terrorism head-on. Let’s hear more of this.

19. #19
    On June 24th, 2004 at 5:53 pm, Beck said:

    It’s a mistake to get boiled down in arguments about the semantics of Islamic holy texts. To try to win an argument on their terms is to give weight to the moral relativists who somehow think that any behavior is acceptable so long as a majority of a given culture endorses it.

    I prefer to focus on the message: those who behead innocent civilians need to suffer horribly and die.

20. #20
    On June 24th, 2004 at 6:08 pm, Francis W. Porretto said:

    When evaluating the CAIR emission, please remember that one of the tenets of Islam is that it’s morally acceptable for a Muslim to lie to an “infidel,” as long as it will bring some advantage to Islam or Muslims.

21. #21
    On June 24th, 2004 at 6:14 pm, Skeptic said:

    It is sad to see how few “leaders” of muslims refuse to condem the actions of these supposed radicals.
    If they are outside the mainstream, say so! Otherwise, it looks like this behavior is tolerated, encouraged and sadly growing.
    The House of Saud needs to get it’s act together and decide if it is on the side of the terrorists or the rest of the world. For too many years they allowed this poison to fester in their midst. It needs to be rooted out, if it means exterminating many of these vermin so be it!
    Religion in my experience is designed to elevate human beings, to help them become better people, neighbors, and humans. I don’t see Islam doing this! It seems to be a religion that preachs hatred, subjegation of others, and envy.
    Envy allows the cruelty we see these animals committing on others.

22. #22
    On June 24th, 2004 at 6:16 pm, MAJ Mike said:

    I notice that that asshat didn’t condemn the act, only the procedure.

    He deserves to be killed, have a ham sandwich shoved in his mouth, and be buried in lard.

23. #23
    On June 24th, 2004 at 10:11 pm, Steve@JusTalkin said:

    I haven’t read the Arabic version of the Qur’an because I can’t read Arabic. I have, however, read about 20% of it in an English translation. One theme that was emphasized was that Muslims aren’t allowed to be friends or associate with Jews or Christians (the people of the book).

    Still, to condemn a religion for the acts of extremists would be not only irrational, but also self-condemning for most other religions as well. The Crusades don’t speak well of Christianity.

24. #24
    On June 24th, 2004 at 10:56 pm, Hosein said:

    If Mr. Hamod is going to endorse this type of action and give his explanation of how to behead someone as a supposed “scholar” do the Muslims and America a favor and have him arrested as a terrorist extremist. All America needs now is a Sam bin Ladin.

25. #25
    On June 24th, 2004 at 11:04 pm, Hosein said:

    Mr. Steve@JusTalkin

    Friendship and respect is encouraged, the verses say Wali in Arabic, meaning an authority (in matters of faith). There are many sources of Hadith that explain the interfaith relationship but I would suggest Nahjul Balagha, by Imam Ali (his shrine is in Najaf Iraq)He was the fourth Kalif and his life is the most perfect example of Islamic ideology in action as a perfect human being. These are the people Muslims look to as examples not the Sam Bin Ladin’s.

26. #26
    On June 25th, 2004 at 2:44 am, Museum Curator said:

    Great, so are we going to see this guy write a book called ” Beheading for Dummies”: The Right way to behead according to Allah” ?? Or how bout maybe ” The idiots guide to beheading for Modern Muslim Jihadists?? I don’t know if this guy is on the left side of politics, but if I find out he is, those words will be inducted into the Museum of Left Wing Lunacy….

    John (Curator, Museum of Left Wing Lunacy)

27. #27
    On June 25th, 2004 at 9:07 am, Harry said:

    To quote Walter Williams:

    Muslim atrocities, and the collective Muslim response to those atrocities, might be better understood knowing their belief system as spelled out by a few, among many, passages from the Quran:

     “Fight those who do not believe in Allah” (Surat At-Taubah 9:29).
     “I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, Smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger tips of them” (Quran 8:12).
     “The unbelievers among the People of the Book and the pagans shall burn forever in the fire of Hell. They are the vilest of all creatures” (Quran 98:1-8).
     “Fight against those who believe not in Allah, and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (Islam), until they are subdued” (Surat At-Taubah 9:29).

    Will the West survive? By Walter E. Williams June 23, 2004, http://www.townhall.com/columnists/walterwilliams/ww20040623.shtml

    The Wahabi sect of Saudi Arabia espouses this point of view and preaches it in the mosques they have built around the world with Saudi money. Even moderate Muslims, at least passively if not actively, support this point of view as part of their Muslim duty to the overall Muslim community which bears the responsibility of enlightening the infidels.

28. #28
    On June 25th, 2004 at 9:44 am, Masked Menace said:

    Miss Beca:
    There are Christians who do follow “Do what you want, Apologize, Repeat”, the difference is you won’t find that procedure promoted in the Bible.

29. #29
    On June 25th, 2004 at 10:50 am, Stefan said:

    Oh, those Muslims. Why can’t they just burn heretics alive at the stake like the Catholic Church used to? So much more humane.

30. #30
    On June 26th, 2004 at 3:57 am, Rabbi Shmuel Handelman said:

    I think you are taking Mr. Hamod’s comments out of context. He was simply explaining that these killers were wrong in their behavior, and, if they had truly been Muslims they would not have done an execution in this manner.
    I know Mr. Hamod for his work on peace in San Diego, in California and in Washington, DC, he is a man of integrity and was just trying to explain the situation that some of your readers, and you, Ms. Malkin, have tried to twist out of context (as I read the entire article in the Washington Times and articles on his website).
    Shalom,
    Rabbi S. Handelman