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		<title>By: Doc</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2004/06/25/a-vision-of-presidential-power-as-far-reaching-as-any-the-court-has-seen/comment-page-1/#comment-425</link>
		<dc:creator>Doc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jun 2004 15:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comments like those of B*d Commie are unfortunate, as they might lead Michelle to drop the comment section of her blog.  However, Michelle can always reserve the right to delete truly obnoxious comments from her website.

On the other hand, I like seeing comments like jayarbee&#039;s, wrongheaded as they are.  Like Michael Moore&#039;s films, his over-the-top arguments help to illustrate the absurdity of the left&#039;s positions.

Although the Court ruled that Cheney could receive policy ADVICE in private, any regulations or legislation passed as a result of that advice is a matter of public record.  If the Congress disagrees, it can take action.  If the public disagrees, they can vote the Republicans out.

Yes, some oil companies may benefit from some of the energy task force&#039;s proposals.  But if the proposals are not in the public interest, the remedies are there.  Sometimes, though, the public interest does coincide with private corporate interest.

In no way does preserving the confidentiality of the energy task force&#039;s consultants remotely compare to the suspension of habeas corpus.  It&#039;s not nearly as bad.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comments like those of B*d Commie are unfortunate, as they might lead Michelle to drop the comment section of her blog.  However, Michelle can always reserve the right to delete truly obnoxious comments from her website.</p>
<p>On the other hand, I like seeing comments like jayarbee&#8217;s, wrongheaded as they are.  Like Michael Moore&#8217;s films, his over-the-top arguments help to illustrate the absurdity of the left&#8217;s positions.</p>
<p>Although the Court ruled that Cheney could receive policy ADVICE in private, any regulations or legislation passed as a result of that advice is a matter of public record.  If the Congress disagrees, it can take action.  If the public disagrees, they can vote the Republicans out.</p>
<p>Yes, some oil companies may benefit from some of the energy task force&#8217;s proposals.  But if the proposals are not in the public interest, the remedies are there.  Sometimes, though, the public interest does coincide with private corporate interest.</p>
<p>In no way does preserving the confidentiality of the energy task force&#8217;s consultants remotely compare to the suspension of habeas corpus.  It&#8217;s not nearly as bad.</p>
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		<title>By: McGehee</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2004/06/25/a-vision-of-presidential-power-as-far-reaching-as-any-the-court-has-seen/comment-page-1/#comment-424</link>
		<dc:creator>McGehee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2004 22:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jayarbee, the insult thread is one down. There are some of us here who would regard continued insults to Ms. Malkin on other threads as offensive to our outdated notions of chivalry. Trouble is, most of us also harbor outdated notions of kicking the living @#$!! out of people who offend our outdated notions of chivalry.

So whyn&#039;t we all just play nice on this thread, shall we?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jayarbee, the insult thread is one down. There are some of us here who would regard continued insults to Ms. Malkin on other threads as offensive to our outdated notions of chivalry. Trouble is, most of us also harbor outdated notions of kicking the living @#$!! out of people who offend our outdated notions of chivalry.</p>
<p>So whyn&#8217;t we all just play nice on this thread, shall we?</p>
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		<title>By: Stewie</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2004/06/25/a-vision-of-presidential-power-as-far-reaching-as-any-the-court-has-seen/comment-page-1/#comment-423</link>
		<dc:creator>Stewie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2004 19:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JayArbee - is it the truth?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JayArbee &#8211; is it the truth?</p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2004/06/25/a-vision-of-presidential-power-as-far-reaching-as-any-the-court-has-seen/comment-page-1/#comment-422</link>
		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2004 18:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michelle:  Hooray!  Thank you for adding Comments to your blog.

Keep up the great work!

Dave from Montana</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michelle:  Hooray!  Thank you for adding Comments to your blog.</p>
<p>Keep up the great work!</p>
<p>Dave from Montana</p>
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		<title>By: jayarbee</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2004/06/25/a-vision-of-presidential-power-as-far-reaching-as-any-the-court-has-seen/comment-page-1/#comment-421</link>
		<dc:creator>jayarbee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2004 18:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All right, Steve, never mind. I see what I&#039;m dealing with now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All right, Steve, never mind. I see what I&#8217;m dealing with now.</p>
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		<title>By: Stewie</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2004/06/25/a-vision-of-presidential-power-as-far-reaching-as-any-the-court-has-seen/comment-page-1/#comment-420</link>
		<dc:creator>Stewie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2004 18:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JayArbee - must be a full time job defending all of Paul Krugman&#039;s errors.  I mean, come on...the guy predicted inflation and interest rates to surge as a result of the Reagan tax cuts.  He copies his articles from blogs.  And he&#039;s employed by The NY Times...not exactly the pillar of ethical reporting these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JayArbee &#8211; must be a full time job defending all of Paul Krugman&#8217;s errors.  I mean, come on&#8230;the guy predicted inflation and interest rates to surge as a result of the Reagan tax cuts.  He copies his articles from blogs.  And he&#8217;s employed by The NY Times&#8230;not exactly the pillar of ethical reporting these days.</p>
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		<title>By: Freedom Reign</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freedom Reign</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2004 17:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just months after September 11th, former Enron advisor Paul Krugman wrote the following in the New York Times:


&quot;I predict that in the years ahead Enron, not Sept. 11, will come to be seen as the greater turning point in U.S. society.&quot;


&quot;The Great Divide&quot;
The New York Times
January 29th, 2002
By Paul Krugman

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/01/29/opinion/29KRUG.html
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just months after September 11th, former Enron advisor Paul Krugman wrote the following in the New York Times:</p>
<p>&#8220;I predict that in the years ahead Enron, not Sept. 11, will come to be seen as the greater turning point in U.S. society.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;The Great Divide&#8221;<br />
The New York Times<br />
January 29th, 2002<br />
By Paul Krugman</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2002/01/29/opinion/29KRUG.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2002/01/29/opinion/29KRUG.html</a><br />
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		<title>By: jayarbee</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2004/06/25/a-vision-of-presidential-power-as-far-reaching-as-any-the-court-has-seen/comment-page-1/#comment-418</link>
		<dc:creator>jayarbee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2004 17:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Posted by Steve@JusTalkin: &quot;Krugman: But it&#039;s still true that their combined income and payroll taxes rose under Ronald Reagan. ... i.e. these are the facts, but I can still skew them.&quot;

No, he&#039;s saying with his correction that he does NOT want to &quot;skew&quot; them. But, yes, the FACT is that combined taxes DID go up under Reagan. The skew comes from those who said they went down, and who do not correct themselves but continue to say it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Posted by Steve@JusTalkin: &#8220;Krugman: But it&#8217;s still true that their combined income and payroll taxes rose under Ronald Reagan. &#8230; i.e. these are the facts, but I can still skew them.&#8221;</p>
<p>No, he&#8217;s saying with his correction that he does NOT want to &#8220;skew&#8221; them. But, yes, the FACT is that combined taxes DID go up under Reagan. The skew comes from those who said they went down, and who do not correct themselves but continue to say it.</p>
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		<title>By: jayarbee</title>
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		<dc:creator>jayarbee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2004 17:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MICHELLE MALKIN: Krugman may be an outstanding academic economist but if he buys Greenhouse&#039;s assertion that Cheney&#039;s position amounts to &quot;a vision of presidential power . . . as far-reaching as any the court has seen,&quot; then he needs to sit in on a few introductory history classes.


I have no doubt but that Krugman sat in on such classes as those which discuss Lincoln&#039;s temporary suspension of habeas corpus for the limited group of persons to which his proclamation applied--namely, draft evaders and those who aided them. It seems to me, however, that Cheney&#039;s assertion of the permanent right of the executive branch to secretly consult only with business leaders who will benefit from subsequently enacted policy that affects everyone is a MORE far-reaching vision of presidential power than any the Court has seen. This is especially true in light of the fact that the Court DID rule that Lincoln&#039;s proclamation violated the Constitution, which was confirmed by the Supreme Court&#039;s reinstatement of full habeas corpus rights following the Civil War.

Keep in mind, though, that while I say (because it affects everyone permanently, versus a limited group temporarily) Cheney&#039;s vision of presidential power is MORE far-reaching than anything seen by the court, Krugman has said only that it AS far-reaching. And you are contending that it is LESS far-reaching?

Still, I&#039;m encouraged by the fact that you even read Krugman; and that, instead of condemning his overall point of Cheney&#039;s wrongful position, you chose to limit your remarks to criticism of his ranking of this particular abuse of power. Could it be that you mostly agree with Krugman regarding this matter, but rather than admit that to your readers you appease them with nit-picking sidebars? Hopefully so.

Of course, it could be that you don&#039;t actually read Krugman, but merely allow Luskin to mis-interpret and psuedo-correct him for you. It&#039;s easier to stay focused that way, I&#039;m sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MICHELLE MALKIN: Krugman may be an outstanding academic economist but if he buys Greenhouse&#8217;s assertion that Cheney&#8217;s position amounts to &#8220;a vision of presidential power . . . as far-reaching as any the court has seen,&#8221; then he needs to sit in on a few introductory history classes.</p>
<p>I have no doubt but that Krugman sat in on such classes as those which discuss Lincoln&#8217;s temporary suspension of habeas corpus for the limited group of persons to which his proclamation applied&#8211;namely, draft evaders and those who aided them. It seems to me, however, that Cheney&#8217;s assertion of the permanent right of the executive branch to secretly consult only with business leaders who will benefit from subsequently enacted policy that affects everyone is a MORE far-reaching vision of presidential power than any the Court has seen. This is especially true in light of the fact that the Court DID rule that Lincoln&#8217;s proclamation violated the Constitution, which was confirmed by the Supreme Court&#8217;s reinstatement of full habeas corpus rights following the Civil War.</p>
<p>Keep in mind, though, that while I say (because it affects everyone permanently, versus a limited group temporarily) Cheney&#8217;s vision of presidential power is MORE far-reaching than anything seen by the court, Krugman has said only that it AS far-reaching. And you are contending that it is LESS far-reaching?</p>
<p>Still, I&#8217;m encouraged by the fact that you even read Krugman; and that, instead of condemning his overall point of Cheney&#8217;s wrongful position, you chose to limit your remarks to criticism of his ranking of this particular abuse of power. Could it be that you mostly agree with Krugman regarding this matter, but rather than admit that to your readers you appease them with nit-picking sidebars? Hopefully so.</p>
<p>Of course, it could be that you don&#8217;t actually read Krugman, but merely allow Luskin to mis-interpret and psuedo-correct him for you. It&#8217;s easier to stay focused that way, I&#8217;m sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve@JusTalkin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve@JusTalkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2004 16:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Krugman:
But it&#039;s still true that their combined income and payroll taxes rose under Ronald Reagan. 

i.e. these are the facts, but I can still skew them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Krugman:<br />
But it&#8217;s still true that their combined income and payroll taxes rose under Ronald Reagan. </p>
<p>i.e. these are the facts, but I can still skew them.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2004 14:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michelle,

I&#039;ve read many of your columns over the past year or so and enjoy them and look forward to them each week.  It&#039;s great to hear a like-minded Marylander for a change. You are a brilliant colunmist, and I wish you the best of luck with your blog.  

Bill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michelle,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read many of your columns over the past year or so and enjoy them and look forward to them each week.  It&#8217;s great to hear a like-minded Marylander for a change. You are a brilliant colunmist, and I wish you the best of luck with your blog.  </p>
<p>Bill</p>
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