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1. #1140
   On July 10th, 2004 at 10:23 am, Athena said:

   In Chapel Hill, east coast Berkeley, the town has a town festival called “Apple Chill.”

   Some students and a veteran were standing around trying to register Republican voters and we would have individuals come up to us and shout “Terrorists!”, “Babykillers!” and the typical mantra concerning oil, civilians, and “lies” by the administration.

   The most hilarious and well, quite sad, incident was when this extremely old and frail man pushing a near-death woman around in a wheelchair with an oxygen tank rolls up beside us….and I’m thinking, “aww such a sweet old couple.”

   Anticipating some words of encouragement because my cohorts and I were clearly out of place, he stooped down to my ear and whispered, “I can tell you one thing: drop dead.”

   He and the woman wheeled away swiftly, oxgen tank in tow.

   Maturity and age don’t form as tight a correlation as I had thought before the incident.

2. #1141
   On July 10th, 2004 at 11:17 am, David2 said:

   It will be interesting to watch when the Islamists come for the Liberals. If a US city ends up being nuked I can only hope it will be Seattle.

3. #1142
   On July 10th, 2004 at 11:25 am, Joe said:

   Welcome to the club, Michelle. That’s just what we bloggers have been saying for months now. Except they’re not really anti-American – they’re on the other side.

4. #1143
   On July 10th, 2004 at 11:53 am, Carolus said:

   Does anyone else here find it just ever so slightly ironic that those who overwhelmingly support partial-birth abortion are shouting the charge of “baby-killer” at returning soldiers?

5. #1144
   On July 10th, 2004 at 12:02 pm, James Kotthoff said:

   Seattle has many problems and being too leftwing is just the tip. I grew up in Seattle and the North Sound Area. I saw the WTO riots and many other things up close. Where else could a man brandisha katana at police and the police get flack for shooting the man with a bean bag?
   Carolus with liberals it is okay to kill an unborn baby as long as the woman chooses but never okay to defend this country aggressively. The old adage of do as I say not as I do is alive and well in the left wing.

6. #1145
   On July 10th, 2004 at 12:06 pm, Ari said:

   The behavior of these people is disgusting. They are Ted Rall without the syndicated cartoon. And they reveal that the left’s statement that “we support the troops, but oppose the war” is not true of their hard-core base.

   Jim McDermott is a traitor. Yet they re-elect him to Congress. And don’t look now, Michelle, but Cynthia McKinney is likely to be re-elected as well.

   Maybe Edwards is right, there are two Americas. But they are the America of patriotic values, of Michelle Malkin and Toby Keith and the 101st Airborne and the majority I hope will not be silent in November; and the fringe leftist unpatriotic America of Bainbridge Island and of the Democratic NYC fundraiser this week who, once their true nature is revealed, will push the undecided off the fence and into the Republican side (I hope).

   Wow, when I get pissed off, the run-on sentences just appear.

7. #1146
   On July 10th, 2004 at 12:59 pm, Peter said:

   It’s not confined to the Coasts. I was visiting our youngest boy, the new grandson and his wife in San Antonio, Texas (TEXAS!) and heard on the radio that the soldiers and airmen were being advised to wear civilian clothes when going off base because of them being assaulted for the crime of wearing their country’s uniform.
   I’ve had more than a few rude remarks about the ball cap I wear with the USMC birdy on the ball emblem.
   It’s going to get worse before it gets better.

8. #1147
   On July 10th, 2004 at 1:06 pm, Jeff Harrell said:

   As Smash (http://lt-smash.us) said, it’s the summer of 1968 all over again. I wasn’t alive then—child of the 70’s—so I have to take his word for it.

   To anybody who was there: in the summer of ‘68, were the conservatives so overwhelmingly right and the hippies so overwhelmingly wrong as they are today?

9. #1148
   On July 10th, 2004 at 1:14 pm, Walter E. Wallis said:

   I say move Boeing to a republican state and Microsoft to India. And quadruple the tax on coffee. For a start.

10. #1149
    On July 10th, 2004 at 1:33 pm, Mamamontezz said:

    Yes, Jeff, it was almost as bad then as it is now. The difference being that now the Anti-America factions have become much more established. They’ve had 35 years in which to recruit and educate their followers, where in 1968 it was much more spontaneous.

    Try to imagine being a military brat in 1968 in Santa Monica, California within a few blocks of a Synanon house full of heroin addicted hippies in filthy jeans and old fatigue jackets with obscenities scrawled them with Bic pens.

    And I was the freak.

11. #1150
    On July 10th, 2004 at 2:07 pm, George Miller said:

    “I’m sure it wasn’t so much directed at the kid as it was the president.”

    So that’s ok, then. Everyone knows George Bush is a baby killer and a murderer.

12. #1151
    On July 10th, 2004 at 2:21 pm, Jeff Harrell said:

    If I can get morbid for just a minute, I wonder whether the Secret Service has foiled any attempts to do harm to the President by a person or people who take the “baby killer” and “liar” and “murderer” thing to heart?

    (Sorry for using the word “foiled” there. I know, it makes it sound like I’m talking about a caper. I just couldn’t come up with a better expression.)

    Every morning I wake up and check CNN, expecting to see news of an attempt on the President’s life. The hated of the administration is getting out of hand, and it scares me.

13. #1152
    On July 10th, 2004 at 2:35 pm, Boffo said:

    To Jeff Harrell:

    I think the reason we haven’t seen the America-hating left physically attack the president is that they are cowards who will only take action so long as they know they won’t suffer any consequences.

    Calling someone a baby killer at a parade and blowing up a mailbox in the middle of the night is all well and good. But they’d never attack someone who might shoot back, and certainly wouldn’t do anything that might get them thrown in jail. If they were in jail, how would they get their Starbucks and clove cigarettes?

14. #1153
    On July 10th, 2004 at 2:42 pm, Heartless Libertarian said:

    If Seattle makes you want to throw up, drive south on I-5 a ways. At the overcrossings of Bridgport Ave, which leads to the front gate of McChord AFB, and the ironically named Berkeley Ave, which connects Fort Lewis and the Washington National Guard headquarters, Camp Murray. Hundreds of yellow ribbons are tied to the railings, and the Berkeley Ave overcrossing attracts a small, but enthusiastic group of flag wavers almost every Saturday, with bigger groups on holidays like Veteran’s Day, Memorial Day, and Armed Forces Day.
    Just don’t drive so far south that you hit Olympia, home of The Evergreen State College, alma mater to one Rachel Corrie.

15. #1154
    On July 10th, 2004 at 3:03 pm, kat-missouri said:

    There is evil among us. It is the re-vitalized anti-establishment anarchist that have re-invented themselves as some sort of socially conscious movement.

    I’ve been at the San Diego airport when the Marines have been coming and going from the depot. I haven’t heard these kinds of comments, but if I ever do, they will get an ear-full from me.

    My brother is in the military. I have many friends in the military. They serve on a line that these people cannot even imagine.

    My house is covered with red, white and blue, yellow ribbons, etc. I have been worried about vandalism and other assaults on my home. I travel a lot (my mom lives in my house) and I am worried about things happening when I am gone, possibly damaging my home or hurting my Mom.

    Fortunately, nothing so far. Maybe it is the neighborhood I live in that has many houses flying the American and military flags. Or the fact that the road is so busy that keeps it from happening.

    all I know is that I have never been more afraid of showing my “colors” than I am right now. There is something wrong in our country when I have to be afraid.

16. #1155
    On July 10th, 2004 at 3:12 pm, Lloyd said:

    Yeah,,,,,,,, that’s the response they got on Bainbridge. If they would have been in Seattle they would have got the same one. But if they would have went 10 miles west they would have been cheered as hero’s. As for Jennifer and Brad,,,,,,, I find it quite entertaining that they are moving within 20 miles of a naval ship yard and a nuclear submarine base. Oh well life is full of ironies.

17. #1156
    On July 10th, 2004 at 4:21 pm, Jack Burton said:

    As someone who’s whole family is either vets or active military – I ever hear some piece of crap calling anyone in uniform a baby killer or the like and I’ll kick their ass. I don’t give a flying turd about some hippies freedom of expression or the patriotism of dissent. I love this Country, love the flag, love cheering for the home team on every occassion and have nothing but awe and respect for those who defend our way of life. If I get in trouble for pounding some worthless America hater, so be it.

18. #1157
    On July 10th, 2004 at 4:31 pm, Jack Burton said:

    By the way, can anyone come up with some contact information for the soldier in question? I’d like to drop him a note telling him how much I appreciate his service.

    Would civil war be all that bad?

19. #1158
    On July 10th, 2004 at 6:24 pm, Ricky bin Ricardo (Abu Babaloo) said:

    Michelle -

    Great posting on this situation, thanks for helping get this out to a nationwide audience. I have the questionable fortune to live on Bainbridge – my wife and I are two of perobably 25 Republicans on an island of almost 20,000. The majority of the population seems to consist of ex-hippies and 60’s-era campus radicals who went to law school, joined silk-stocking firms in downtown Seattle and got rich, but kept hold of the leftist political lunacy of their youth.

    It gets worse – this morning’s (July 10) edition of the Bainbridge Review has an editorial essentially stating that this disabled vet DESERVED the ridicule and abuse of the “quality” citizens of the island. I don’t know if the op-ed’s posted online yet, but their site address is http://www.bainbridgereview.com.

    Just as a postscript – Bainbridge isn’t in Baghdad Jim’s congressional district. We have the dubious honor of being represented by Jay Inslee, who’s as far left as Jimbo, but at least has the political smarts to refrain from proudly acting like a traitor in public.

20. #1159
    On July 10th, 2004 at 7:35 pm, Turkeyhead said:

    I can only hope that when the “Big One” hits California, it somehow reaches all the way up and cleaves the entire West coast off of the country. (and I was born in/lived in CA!)

    Also, thank you Jack Burton. I just joined the Army Reserve, so no face-pounding for me. But as for you, well…*nod nod wink wink*

21. #1160
    On July 10th, 2004 at 8:12 pm, Jim Miller said:

    Minor clarification: Bainbridge is not in McDermott’s district. It is part of the 1st district and is represented by Jay Inslee, who lives there.

    Inslee is not as bad as McDermott — not many are — but is still objectionable. He brought former ambassador Joseph Wilson, IV, to the district to retail what we now know (check today’s Washington Post story, if you haven’t seen it) were blatant lies.

    (If you have forgotten, Wilson was the one who claimed there were no sales or uranium from Niger to Saddam — which is exactly the opposite of what Wilson told the CIA in private.)

22. #1161
    On July 10th, 2004 at 8:50 pm, dvgulliver said:

    Dissent is NOT patriotic!

    Here is something I wrote last week, about Independence, Patriotism, and Dissent:

    Independence Day Musings, by David Gulliver

    As we approach the celebration day of American independence, we find ourselves struggling to hold together as a nation. There is a real schism between America’s left and right. The fifth-column American left, with its anti-American rhetoric, likes to wrap itself in the flag of free speech and hide behind the shadowy lie that “dissent is patriotic.” They like to compare themselves to the rebels of Colonial America, which fought to be free from the oppressive British monarchy. They even glom on to the legacy of such free thinkers as Thomas Paine. But there is one key difference between the rebels of today and the rebels of July 4, 1776. The Colonial rebels didn’t want to change the British system; they wanted to be free from the British System. In contrast, the America-haters of today’s left have no desire to leave America to what they perceive as its own wickedness; instead of yearning for a free land of their own, today’s left is a true fifth-column seeking to tear down America from within and replace it with a Marxist “utopia.”

    The key to this truth is recognizing the fallacy of the leftist mantra, “dissent is patriotic.” It sounds good, tapping into the wellspring of American history, reminiscent of Patrick Henry’s rallying cry for freedom, “Give me liberty, or give me death!” But this is an illusion. While today we consider our Founding Fathers to be patriots, we must remember that they are only patriots to those who benefited from their rebellion. To the people of their nation, the British, they were simply rebels.

    A patriot loves his country. Our Founders had no love for Britain, so they fought to the death to be free from it. Today’s left has no love for America, and their fight is leading to the deaths of brave soldiers in far away lands like Iraq and Afghanistan. The patriots of 1776 were not George Washington and John Adams, but Lord Cornwallis and General Clinton. We only think of our boys as patriots today because we are the result of their sacrifice. As such, we shouldn’t think of today’s left as anything resembling patriots. Like the British 228 years ago, we should view them as the most unpatriotic rebels.

    Dissent, by its very nature, implies a dislike of the current norms. When today’s left talks of dissent, this is code for “we don’t like America the way it is.” In the case of the most extreme leftist movements, make that “we downright hate America the way it is.” Hatred of America: does that sound patriotic to you? Dissent and patriotism do not mix.

    Today’s patriots stand up for America as it is; they draw comfort from a strong national defense, embrace the deep religious faith that brought our ancestors to our shores centuries ago, welcome those from oppressed lands yearning to be free, and would like to see these values spread to other nations. These principles are anathema to today’s left; hence, they dissent. They oppose our military, calling it the source of all conflict in the globe. They despise our religious heritage, seeking a Godless secularist new world order. They mock those who oppose the oppressive totalitarian regimes abroad, lauding the “success” of such farces as “universal health-care” in Cuba. And they have made our War on Terror, a war that not only is waged to keep America safe but also to bring freedom and democracy to lands savaged by forces like the Taliban and the Hussein clan, into their rallying anti-America cry. That is their dissent; it hardly sounds patriotic.

    So as we celebrate our freedom this July 4, let’s think about what that really means: FREEDOM. We waged a war to be free from the British, not to take them over from within. Today, America is free, yet Britain retains its sovereignty, keeping alive its own thousand-year heritage. We didn’t like how our British government was treating us, so we left them and forged our own destiny as a free nation; the British quickly got over our departure, and remain a global power today. We both made out pretty well.

    Today, however, the dissenting rebels have no desire to simply be free to live as they wish. Instead, they want to destroy the America that is and replace it with the Amerika they desire. There will be no mutual benefit should they succeed. Unlike our Forefathers, who detached themselves from Britain, the fifth-column today seeks the outright destruction of all that is America. Fortunately, there are some Americans who truly are patriotic; they won’t be “dissenting” this November. Now if only we patriots can convince those dissenting rebels to go off and forge their own independent legacy. Maybe they can go do it in France.

23. #1162
    On July 10th, 2004 at 9:37 pm, slimedog said:

    “I was visiting our youngest boy, the new grandson and his wife in San Antonio, Texas (TEXAS!) and heard on the radio that the soldiers and airmen were being advised to wear civilian clothes when going off base because of them being assaulted for the crime of wearing their country’s uniform.”

    Don’t believe everything you hear on the radio, especially in San Antonio. We have a HUGE military presence, and signficant numbers of folks–cops, medical, teachers, tradesmen–are military reservists. We have thousands of military personnel wearing their uniforms around town every day, and some of the largest high school JROTC programs in the nation. We also have some pretty seedy parts of town, that young recruits have no business spending time in, especially alone, late at night–in or out of uniform. But a vet just back from Iraq can suit up and go downtown, and never pay for a drink all night.

24. #1163
    On July 10th, 2004 at 10:40 pm, Walter E. Wallis said:

    I understand that North Korea, who claims to have the bomb, has just put two ICBM sites into service, missiles with range enough to reach Seattle.
    Let me know when they have enough range to make me care.

25. #1164
    On July 10th, 2004 at 11:31 pm, Narniaman said:

    Boffo wrote:

    “I think the reason we haven’t seen the America-hating left physically attack the president is that they are cowards who will only take action so long as they know they won’t suffer any consequences.

    Calling someone a baby killer at a parade and blowing up a mailbox in the middle of the night is all well and good. But they’d never attack someone who might shoot back, and certainly wouldn’t do anything that might get them thrown in jail. If they were in jail, how would they get their Starbucks and clove cigarettes?”

    =========================

    Are you talking about leftists or Islamoterrorists?

26. #1165
    On July 10th, 2004 at 11:48 pm, pbird said:

    Michelle:
    Around here, Seattle and enviorns, we have for years called Bainbridge Island Braindamage Island. Teehee. Fits don’t it?
    Please everyone, don’t wish a bomb on us, lots of righties live here too, and we’re very embarrassed!
    PB

27. #1166
    On July 11th, 2004 at 11:21 am, jeff said:

    As an Oakland resident, I really resent Seattle trying to horn in on our Whacko Left rep. FYI, I’m represented by the Barbara Twins, Lee & Boxer. McDermott has NOTHING on them.

28. #1167
    On July 11th, 2004 at 4:53 pm, Raging Dave said:

    I live somewhat close to Ken Potts. I recognise the reference to his house, especially the 101st Airborn flag. It’s getting to the point where my girlfriend and I are just going to leave this area. Either that, or I’ll end up in jail after some idiot vandalizes my vehicle.

    And in all honestly, I can’t say I’m surprised by the people at the parade. I’m surprised that they didn’t pelt that soldier with rotten fruit as well.

29. #1168
    On July 11th, 2004 at 5:51 pm, PDN said:

    I sometimes wonder if a fitting sentence for “innocent until proven guilty” “duly elected” Saddam Hussein would be to allow him to rule over all the people who so ardently defend him today in places like Bainbridge. I think Saddam would find it hell on earth.

    PDN

30. #1169
    On July 11th, 2004 at 11:55 pm, Phil Fraering said:

    PDN: I’d had much the same idea, more or less, although I had wanted to set up Saddam at Midway, where he could _really_ be contained, and then see how many of his admirers here in this country could vote with their feet and show how much they thought of Saddam.

31. #1170
    On July 12th, 2004 at 2:23 am, m whitney said:

    Hey,

    Max Cleland is still waiting for his apology.

32. #1171
    On July 12th, 2004 at 3:05 am, discourse? said:

    Michell Malkin does not hate America. Why should she? She is well paid for her writings like this one which smears an entire geograhic region based on a newspaper opinion column.

    Or does she? In an update, she implicity approves her commenters, at least two whom think nuking Seattle is a good idea, or that perhaps the “Big One” will cleave the West coast from the contenental U.S.

    Since when is hoping a U.S. city is nuked considered loving your country?

    I live on an island a few miles south of Bainbridge Island which is about as liberal a place as you could ever find. One of the things I like most about it is the close-knit community in which people generally get along no matter what their beliefs are.

    In our Strawberry Festival parade this weekend, people stood and cheered when the veterans passed.

    Calling a veteran a “Baby Killer” is not dissent, it is rude, obnoxious, misguided and pointless. Calling someone who does such things evil, an idiot. a moron, a lover of Sadaam, etc. is equally pointless.

    If I was at a parade and someone showed similar disrespect to a veteran, I’d shame them on the spot. Just like Michelle and those of you who are so quick to denigrate an entire region based upon the alleged actions of a few deserve to be shamed.

    Shame on all of you, especially Michelle who certainly knows better.

    I don’t hate my country, but I don’t like it as much as I used to and I am very worried it will never recover from its current bi-polar disorder.

33. #1172
    On July 12th, 2004 at 8:04 am, Jack Burton said:

    Discourse,

    Comparing calling an injured vet a baby killer to response insults for that is pathetic. In one case, a soldier sacrificed almost everyone at the request of their country. In another, some idiot hippie had a 60’s acid flashback and decided to bring back some oldies but goodies they used to say while waiting for vets at the airport.

    Sorry that you don’t like an entire island being smeared, but tough. The chamber of commerce defended the actions of the island of idiots, so we’re left with little choice but to lump them all as a group.

    As for the people there, if that really is their core values (don’t try the alleged garbage, the insults were admitted by the chamber officials), I would truly like to see the entire island leave this country. I have nothing but contempt for them, and wouldn’t waste and ounce of effort to defend anything but their right to hook up some motors and move the whole place up to canada, forever.

    In the meantime, if you don’t like the way you are painted, do something positive. Silence equals tacit approval.

34. #1173
    On July 12th, 2004 at 12:28 pm, Chris said:

    We all know that the IQ of a mob is significantly lower than that of an individual. And saftey of numbers gives us bigger balls. So, no, the whole island should not be blamed. But the leaders of that island have to forcifully condemn such behavior or they do, on behalf of the citizenry, approve it.

    And whatever side you are on in regards to the war, if you are not appalled by these people, then you are a disgusting human being. Had I been in that crowd and the person next to me started yelling that filth, I would be in jail right now.

35. #1174
    On July 12th, 2004 at 3:48 pm, Fox said:

    The rhetoric of the left is accepted- “Babykiller”- with little fanfare.

    God forbid, however, you call them “unpatriotic”. Then the dresses pitch over the head and the wailing and teeth gnashing begins.

36. #1175
    On July 12th, 2004 at 6:00 pm, David D said:

    I was househunting a couple of years ago, and thought it would be nice to live in Bainbridge. Unfortunately, when I looked, there were zero homes for sale in my price range – under $300,000.

    The real story here is not that someone was insulted for his political beliefs, but that the liberal-slanted Seattle Post-Intelligencer would defend that insult.

    And what does “Post-Intelligencer” mean? “We Used to Know”? “We Used to be Smarter”? It’s a stupid name for a lame Hearst paper that’s going to fold soon.

    Seattle is liberal, yes, and as is typical it is surrounded by conservative suburbs. Gerrymandering is all that keeps fools like McDermott in office. However, just because I live in a city where the city council took longer to debate & pass a support-the-troops-oppose-the-war resolution than the war lasted is no reason for anyone to think it is OK that I should be nuked. Shame on you, Mr. Wallis, for even suggesting the idea.

37. #1176
    On July 12th, 2004 at 10:58 pm, Xoxotl said:

    **It gets worse – this morning’s (July 10) edition of the Bainbridge Review has an editorial essentially stating that this disabled vet DESERVED the ridicule and abuse of the “quality” citizens of the island. I don’t know if the op-ed’s posted online yet, but their site address is http://www.bainbridgereview.com.**

    While it appears that the editorial isn’t up yet, what is up is a “story” about some teenage liberal activists who were so moved by Moore’s latest liberal wet-dream “Fahrenheit 9/11″ that they’re organizing a “Peace March”. The theme of the march inspired by the Moore movie is “No more lies.”

    You can’t make this stuff up.

    The pitiful part of it all is that nobody there can detect the utter irony of the situation.

38. #1177
    On July 13th, 2004 at 12:08 am, Ricky bin Ricardo (Abu Babaloo) said:

    The Bainbridge Review’s op-ed in support of the scum who vilified this young disabled vet is STILL not posted online. I’m betting the editor got an earful on Saturday morning, either over the phone or from people who ran into him in town – and once he found out this story had hit the Web, he decided he’d better let cowardice be the better part of valor and not risk his op-ed hitting a national audience. I keyed the entire op-ed onto a Word file & sent it to both Michelle and Glenn Reynolds (Instapundit). Hopefully the editor has only begun to feel the pain…

39. #1178
    On July 13th, 2004 at 3:06 am, discourse? said:

    This whole thread is simply appalling. Even those of you who claim to live in this area don’t know what you are talking about: the 7th district’s last Republican Congressman was defeated by Mike Lowry in 1978. Compared to Lowry, McDermott looks like a saint. If the Republicans could ever run a decent candidate against him, they might have a chance. Disclaimer: I don’t live in his district.

    The idea that the 3 million people living in the greater Seattle area all hate America is ludicrous, a fact which Michelle Malkin is well aware of. All she is doing here is pushing your buttons and to great effect.

    I live in a place where people’s right to an opinion is respected, even if the opinion isn’t. Most of you seem to be living in places where that isn’t true. Freedom of speech is only acceptable when you agree with what is being said? How sad. How un-american.

    Advocating mass deporatation of those you disagree with or hoping an American city is nuked goes beyond mere opinion. Where’s the outrage over that?

    There are about 21,000 people who live on Bainbridge Island. Some of them are assholes. Big deal.

    So much outrage over what is essentially name calling. The end result is some soldiers with hurt feelings. There are plenty of things to be outraged about, pick something closer to your house.

40. #1179
    On July 13th, 2004 at 7:22 am, Brian Ridge said:

    An irony-free zone, apparently.

    Right-wingers responding to leftist “america haters” by advocating an entire American city be nuked.

    It’s clear from this thread who really hates America.

41. #1180
    On July 13th, 2004 at 8:51 am, Jack Burton said:

    Discourse,

    Obviously beyond your comprehension, but we defend soldiers rights and applaud their committment wherever they go. Sorry, but it’s an issue to me and many others despite not living there. What we’ve read about this sorry incident has told me all I need to know about a substantial number of the residents and the local government.

    How ironic, the party of pansies that created our latest hate-speech laws that prevent any liberal from ever getting their feelings hurt now shifts gears to “get over the insult”. What’s it going to be? Can I call people whatever I want or can’t I? I think I know the answer – you can say whatever you want, as long as don’t insult us. We can insult you, but if you insult us, it’s off the jail you go.

42. #1181
    On July 13th, 2004 at 9:34 am, Chris said:

    Well Brian, I think most of us thought the “NUke Seattle” thing was a very childish statement…but since you just lumped ALL right-wingers as supporting such idiocy, perhaps it is okay for us to lump all left wingers together as well…

43. #1182
    On July 13th, 2004 at 9:51 pm, Wayne & Lauri Hustis said:

    We believe the Bainbridge City Council and Bainbridge Chamber of Commerce should apologize to the veterans state-wide in a public forum.

    Voicing one’s opinion in a crowd and causing an event to go out of control, beyond its intent is an outright act of terrorism. The folks who made these remarks should be made to apologize publically – or be sent to IRAQ as their punishment where they can learn about disrespect-firsthand.

    We need to turn this terribly hostile act into a policy of doing the right thing. Its what is good for our communities, families and neighbors. For every bad action a good action must take its place or we cannot be an example to our children or others around us. Leave the politics at the voting booths.

    Our feelings and thoughts are our feelings and thoughts – but have we totally forgotten hospitality and respect for others in work environments?
    Where is our respect for authority and for the men serving our country!

    The people that are making these comments – complain about the current administration and how they handle themselves in world affairs. Yet, these people are doing no different, so its the pot calling the kettle black.

44. #80069
    On July 13th, 2004 at 9:51 pm, Wayne & Lauri Hustis said:

    We believe the Bainbridge City Council and Bainbridge Chamber of Commerce should apologize to the veterans state-wide in a public forum.

    Voicing one’s opinion in a crowd and causing an event to go out of control, beyond its intent is an outright act of terrorism. The folks who made these remarks should be made to apologize publically – or be sent to IRAQ as their punishment where they can learn about disrespect-firsthand.

    We need to turn this terribly hostile act into a policy of doing the right thing. Its what is good for our communities, families and neighbors. For every bad action a good action must take its place or we cannot be an example to our children or others around us. Leave the politics at the voting booths.

    Our feelings and thoughts are our feelings and thoughts – but have we totally forgotten hospitality and respect for others in work environments?
    Where is our respect for authority and for the men serving our country!

    The people that are making these comments – complain about the current administration and how they handle themselves in world affairs. Yet, these people are doing no different, so its the pot calling the kettle black.

45. #1183
    On July 14th, 2004 at 12:02 am, Tom Potts said:

    I want to know why the Bainbridge Chamber of Commerce has to apoligize to anybody? They put the parade on, they were not the idiots who were yelling. I was at the parade, the announcer asked him what war he was a veteran of. Not in a mocking way, not in a mean way but just a normal question. It seams to me the people who are all fired up at this are trying to make it a crusade of: I cant belive Bainbridge residents are like this. These people are just as stupid as the people who were yelling IMHO

46. #1184
    On July 14th, 2004 at 12:02 am, Tom Potts said:

    I want to know why the Bainbridge Chamber of Commerce has to apoligize to anybody? They put the parade on, they were not the idiots who were yelling. I was at the parade, the announcer asked him what war he was a veteran of. Not in a mocking way, not in a mean way but just a normal question. It seams to me the people who are all fired up at this are trying to make it a crusade of: I cant belive Bainbridge residents are like this. These people are just as stupid as the people who were yelling IMHO

47. #1185
    On July 14th, 2004 at 10:43 am, Jack Burton said:

    Let’s see Tom, you’re 23 or so. The war prior to the current one was 13 years ago. I wonder what war you were in???? Since Palestinians are the only ones who send 10 year olds to die, I think it’s safe to say the announcer was being an asshole.

48. #1186
    On July 15th, 2004 at 7:07 am, bear, the (one each) said:

    I’ve been to Seattle a number of times, folks. I met some nice people but for the most part the populace consists of sniveling crybabies who blame Californians for everything from cracks in the sidewalks to the heartbreak of psoriasis.

    The overwhelming concerns of the Seattle-ites start with finding the the best latté, and ends with finding a good Volvo mechanic.

49. #1187
    On July 16th, 2004 at 5:16 am, Brian K said:

    I live in the North Korean Target-City of Seattle, yet I fully condemn the vicious comments spat upon the Bainbridge soldier. That was wrong. However, I also condemn equally the generalization and vitriol in these comments here and the way in which people like Michelle Malkin or Al Franken or Rush Limbaugh or Michael Moore encourage them. It’s manipulative and crass the way these folks profit from inflaming political passions to a disfiguring fever pitch. And it’s depressing how many eat it up.

    I was against the Iraq war, though I supported the (still-unfinished) war in Afghanistan. My best friend just completed a tour serving in both theaters and I was worried sick every day until he returned. Yet I was also proud of him and grateful for his service, and when he came home, I told him and his new wife exactly that. I would say the same to any other soldier, for it’s true. And yet I see no conflict between that and my desire to get them all out of Iraq, a fight I feel was unnecessary.

    But I think all this denigration of the “other side” goes way beyond a valid condemnation, and it’s what truly dishonors our soldiers’ sacrifices of past and present. Do they really face death and disfigurement on foreign soil time and time again just so we’re FREE to call each other petty names and hope that Berkeley or Seattle or Houston gets wiped out by an earthquake or a nuke? Maybe, but what a waste of free speech. The invective on both sides disgusts me because it’s so worthless and destructive, not to mention tiresome. Truly civilized debate is our only true hope, which is why mine is pretty much gone these days.

    “Seattle Hates America”? Do you genuinely believe that Michelle? I doubt it, but how sad if you actually do. And how sad that many posters here happily escalate her profitable rhetoric. I hope it feels good, because such knee-jerk spite does little to educate, let alone change, anyone’s mind.

    Sincerely, (and no, I’m not moving to France)

    An Evil Seattlite

50. #1188
    On July 16th, 2004 at 8:11 am, Marty said:

    Jason Gilson, the parade veteran, can be reached at patrioticfamily@hotmail.com

    I am a Vietnam veteran of combat. I would like to inform all, that the measure of wartime PTSD is the amount of violence experienced in war, coupled with the type of reception by the family and community upon return.

    I am pleased to see that this soldier has the support of his family and others, if not that of the unpatriotic community where he lives.

    A soldier does not fight for any president or political party. He fights only for the Constitution. One of his constitutional rights, upon return, is freedom of speech, including any sign expressing any view. This appears to be a tricky concept for some.

    Marty

51. #1189
    On July 16th, 2004 at 12:00 pm, Mike said:

    Hmm…One comment mentions that Seattle is apparently within target range of NK nukes, and mentions that it is of little concern to him/her.

    That obviously translates into wishing Seattle would be nuked. Great leap of logic there……

    More to the point, who in SPECOPS is going to volunteer for the hunter/killer teams? Somehow I don’t think the residents of Bainbridge Island will be…