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		<title>By: travel</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2004/07/12/blowing-a-security-moms-cover/comment-page-1/#comment-1354</link>
		<dc:creator>travel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2006 11:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;travel&lt;/strong&gt;

BOOK*889871-01-01NET</description>
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<p>BOOK*889871-01-01NET</p>
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		<title>By: David Crisp</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2004/07/12/blowing-a-security-moms-cover/comment-page-1/#comment-1352</link>
		<dc:creator>David Crisp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2004 06:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;C&#039;mon Michelle, there is not integrity in news anymore. These people would love nothing more than for a some psycho muslims to brutally murder this woman and her family.&quot;

Chris, when you get the urge to write something like this you should go take a shower first. Then some medication. Have a beer. Read a book. Sooner or later, you&#039;ll get a clue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;C&#8217;mon Michelle, there is not integrity in news anymore. These people would love nothing more than for a some psycho muslims to brutally murder this woman and her family.&#8221;</p>
<p>Chris, when you get the urge to write something like this you should go take a shower first. Then some medication. Have a beer. Read a book. Sooner or later, you&#8217;ll get a clue.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2004/07/12/blowing-a-security-moms-cover/comment-page-1/#comment-1351</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2004 16:14:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link.  I hope to have a little more in-depth with Shannen once she can talk about the Andersen case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link.  I hope to have a little more in-depth with Shannen once she can talk about the Andersen case.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2004/07/12/blowing-a-security-moms-cover/comment-page-1/#comment-1350</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2004 13:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Final M1 tank weakness:

8.  The self distruct button mounted on the outside.  It is in the back of the tank, at eye level, centered between the tracks...  Keep looking... almost there....  &quot;Driver. Forward. Fast&quot; :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Final M1 tank weakness:</p>
<p>8.  The self distruct button mounted on the outside.  It is in the back of the tank, at eye level, centered between the tracks&#8230;  Keep looking&#8230; almost there&#8230;.  &#8220;Driver. Forward. Fast&#8221; <img src='http://s.michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-content/themes/mm/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2004/07/12/blowing-a-security-moms-cover/comment-page-1/#comment-1349</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2004 13:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Additional M1 tank weaknesses:
5.  Still vulnerable to bombardment from Gua&#039;uld mothership in orbit.
6.  No cupholders.
7.  2 radios, 4 antennae and still gets no good stations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Additional M1 tank weaknesses:<br />
5.  Still vulnerable to bombardment from Gua&#8217;uld mothership in orbit.<br />
6.  No cupholders.<br />
7.  2 radios, 4 antennae and still gets no good stations.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2004/07/12/blowing-a-security-moms-cover/comment-page-1/#comment-1348</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2004 13:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>M1 tank weaknesses:
  1.  Occasionally runs low on fuel.
  2.  Sometimes the gunner falls asleep.
  3.  Doesn&#039;t float too well.
  4.  Is unable to fly under its own power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>M1 tank weaknesses:<br />
  1.  Occasionally runs low on fuel.<br />
  2.  Sometimes the gunner falls asleep.<br />
  3.  Doesn&#8217;t float too well.<br />
  4.  Is unable to fly under its own power.</p>
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		<title>By: Petrified Truth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Petrified Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2004 13:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Spyjudge</strong></p>
<p>Now, this is an entirely different kind of moonlighting. CONRAD, MONT. &#8211; By day, she’s the municipal judge of this tiny town, a wife and mother of three, but by moonlight Shannen Rossmiller is a spy. Then, Rossmiller — petite,&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: lauraw</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2004/07/12/blowing-a-security-moms-cover/comment-page-1/#comment-1347</link>
		<dc:creator>lauraw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2004 04:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Probably the reason they revealed her identity is the same reason as why &#039;Donny Brasco&#039; had to ID himself as Joseph Pascone in the big mob court cases: A US citizen has the right to confront their accuser. That means true identity, not alias.

This has bad ramifications for the career (and sometimes life) of an undercover officer, but also protects citizens from obvious abuses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably the reason they revealed her identity is the same reason as why &#8216;Donny Brasco&#8217; had to ID himself as Joseph Pascone in the big mob court cases: A US citizen has the right to confront their accuser. That means true identity, not alias.</p>
<p>This has bad ramifications for the career (and sometimes life) of an undercover officer, but also protects citizens from obvious abuses.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2004 22:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, yes... IRC...
Personally, I&#039;ve had more problems with the Pakistanis than Brazilians and Turks, but that might depend on the IRC-net used...
I usually log those chats automatically, but since it&#039;s just a simple textfile, it&#039;s not much value as evidence in itself.

I tend to block out Pakistanis and ME people when I see them, few of them are able to keep a logical conversation.
The few times I have tried, they usually start with talking about how peaceloving they are, but if you dont agree with them on everything, it doesn&#039;t take long until they start making threats.

It&#039;s extremely easy to trace people there, I can usually trace the country and town within seconds, and that&#039;s without much effort...
I usually do that now as a preemptive measure, to see where everyone is from. That way I know where people is from, and can easily block them if I want to. 

I have thought about &quot;trolling&quot; there too, but I also found it impossible to see the difference between them, they all sound alike when chatting...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, yes&#8230; IRC&#8230;<br />
Personally, I&#8217;ve had more problems with the Pakistanis than Brazilians and Turks, but that might depend on the IRC-net used&#8230;<br />
I usually log those chats automatically, but since it&#8217;s just a simple textfile, it&#8217;s not much value as evidence in itself.</p>
<p>I tend to block out Pakistanis and ME people when I see them, few of them are able to keep a logical conversation.<br />
The few times I have tried, they usually start with talking about how peaceloving they are, but if you dont agree with them on everything, it doesn&#8217;t take long until they start making threats.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s extremely easy to trace people there, I can usually trace the country and town within seconds, and that&#8217;s without much effort&#8230;<br />
I usually do that now as a preemptive measure, to see where everyone is from. That way I know where people is from, and can easily block them if I want to. </p>
<p>I have thought about &#8220;trolling&#8221; there too, but I also found it impossible to see the difference between them, they all sound alike when chatting&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Fox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2004 21:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I had to guess, the chatrooms they&#039;re using are IRC (Internet Relay Chat) network rooms. Nobody monitors or logs them, and you can set one up on your own machine and have virtually limitless clients hooked up from anywhere in the world.

www.mirc.com has the most popular client for IRC if you want to check it out. NOBODY logs this stuff, and it is notoriously easy to fake a &quot;log&quot; of an IRC chat..so without a witness, this would be one hell of an uphill battle. 

That being said, unless the idiot trying to sell secrets was spoofing or blocking queries, it&#039;s also very easy to get the guys IP address...from there it&#039;s ridiculously simple to figure out who he is....some morons go ahead and put their real names in the &quot;info&quot; files.

It&#039;s a jungle out there. I&#039;ve played with the idea of &quot;trolling&quot; IRC networks (certain ones tend to attract certain types, or certain regions of the world....the Turks and Brazillians, for example, are hyper-sexual and quite amusing once you get them going). I was on a middle eastern one once, and let me tell you, there are so many angry arabs on there I have no idea how you would figure out where the dilliante loudmouths ended and the real terrorists began...they all sound like lunatics.

Fox</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I had to guess, the chatrooms they&#8217;re using are IRC (Internet Relay Chat) network rooms. Nobody monitors or logs them, and you can set one up on your own machine and have virtually limitless clients hooked up from anywhere in the world.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mirc.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.mirc.com</a> has the most popular client for IRC if you want to check it out. NOBODY logs this stuff, and it is notoriously easy to fake a &#8220;log&#8221; of an IRC chat..so without a witness, this would be one hell of an uphill battle. </p>
<p>That being said, unless the idiot trying to sell secrets was spoofing or blocking queries, it&#8217;s also very easy to get the guys IP address&#8230;from there it&#8217;s ridiculously simple to figure out who he is&#8230;.some morons go ahead and put their real names in the &#8220;info&#8221; files.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a jungle out there. I&#8217;ve played with the idea of &#8220;trolling&#8221; IRC networks (certain ones tend to attract certain types, or certain regions of the world&#8230;.the Turks and Brazillians, for example, are hyper-sexual and quite amusing once you get them going). I was on a middle eastern one once, and let me tell you, there are so many angry arabs on there I have no idea how you would figure out where the dilliante loudmouths ended and the real terrorists began&#8230;they all sound like lunatics.</p>
<p>Fox</p>
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		<title>By: King of Fools</title>
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		<dc:creator>King of Fools</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2004 18:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do I sign up!  Sounds like a fun and rewarding job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do I sign up!  Sounds like a fun and rewarding job.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2004 18:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C&#039;mon Michelle, there is not integrity in news anymore.  These people would love nothing more than for a some psycho muslims to brutally murder this woman and her family.  That would be big news for a long time.  I am surprised they didn&#039;t print her home address, what schools her kids go to and when you might expect to catch her at home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C&#8217;mon Michelle, there is not integrity in news anymore.  These people would love nothing more than for a some psycho muslims to brutally murder this woman and her family.  That would be big news for a long time.  I am surprised they didn&#8217;t print her home address, what schools her kids go to and when you might expect to catch her at home.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2004/07/12/blowing-a-security-moms-cover/comment-page-1/#comment-1342</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2004 18:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, you don&#039;t allow HTML tags, I see.  Here&#039;s the link to the interview itself:
http://www.mtpolitics.net/archives/1375</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, you don&#8217;t allow HTML tags, I see.  Here&#8217;s the link to the interview itself:<br />
<a href="http://www.mtpolitics.net/archives/1375" rel="nofollow">http://www.mtpolitics.net/archives/1375</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2004 18:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Craig at MT Politics did a blog interview with Shannen Rossmiller.</p>
<p>In the interview, he asked her the same thing about her identity.  Here&#8217;s the exchange:</p>
<p>C: What kind of work were you doing on your own? Now that you’ve been “outed,” do you worry about being targeted?</p>
<p>SR: When I was operating on my own, I was doing the same work as I do with 7-Seas at the present time. Primarily, I engaged in commumications with persons of interest and performed threat analysis.</p>
<p>The only reason I would be worried about being targetted for the counterintelligence work I do would be if one of the operational identities I use were to be exposed and subsequently linked to me. However, I will say one thing that 7-Seas takes very seriously is its members’ security first. When operating online, all tracks which would trace back to me are eliminated and replaced with tracks that would lead someone to believe that I am in any given country, other than the US.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2004 17:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Chron is a mostly Democratic paper in a mostly Democratic town. Why are you surprised that the &quot;people&#039;s need to know&quot; outweighs Rossmiller&#039;s safety?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Chron is a mostly Democratic paper in a mostly Democratic town. Why are you surprised that the &#8220;people&#8217;s need to know&#8221; outweighs Rossmiller&#8217;s safety?</p>
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