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1. #1361
   On July 12th, 2004 at 2:59 pm, Bithead said:

   That someone could aver something so poinsonous is one thing. But that they could accept it without the least bit of questioning is yet another. Logic rears it’s head;

   If their bogus cgarge is correct and he did have somehting to do with the 9/11 attacks, one must assume he’d get something out of the deal. Wouldn’t it then make far more sense to have arranged for the attack on say, 9/11/04?

   The really sad part is, his listeners will take is as gospel, without questioning it, too.

   (Sigh) Whoever said Democrat voters were logical?

2. #1362
   On July 12th, 2004 at 3:20 pm, La Shawn said:

   Just give them over to their nonsense. They all deserve each other. No government schools for my kids!

3. #1363
   On July 12th, 2004 at 3:34 pm, Kevlar said:

   Well, if you feel it, then it must be true.

4. #1364
   On July 12th, 2004 at 3:44 pm, ambra said:

   Let’s please separate the idiots from the artform.

5. #1365
   On July 12th, 2004 at 4:00 pm, AWG said:

   Why do I get the feeling that “my people” is a synonym for “fellow travellers?” Probably doesn’t help that Jadakiss’ buddy Boots Riley identifies himself as a communist.

6. #1366
   On July 12th, 2004 at 4:05 pm, Bithead said:

   Let’s please separate the idiots from the artform.

   An example of publicly avowed pro-Bush raper, other than Kid Rock, seems called for. Can anyone list such a person?

7. #1367
   On July 12th, 2004 at 4:26 pm, Jeff Harrell said:

   I get down on my knees every night before bed and thank the Lord that I live in a country where I and my fellow citizens are free to be colossal dumbasses.

   A mixed blessing to be sure, but a blessing nonetheless.

8. #1368
   On July 12th, 2004 at 4:47 pm, Colossal Dumbass said:

   I am offended that you pray for me. I am offended that you made a post here in public for everyone to see that refers to any “Lord”. This is supposed to be the land of the free, which means you are not allowed to do that kind of offensive thing. What about my right not to be offended by anything. I am calling the ACLU!

9. #1369
   On July 12th, 2004 at 7:29 pm, Steve Hayes said:

   You want a pro-Bush rapper? I have been out of the music business for over 20 years, but am trying to get back in it now. I have been pitching a pro-War music video called “Hostages/Have You Seen Enough?” but can’t get anyone to even respond to me. If I can get this made, it will be the most controversial video ever. “Hostages” is a song I recorded back in 1980. I want to make a video showing the most gruesome scenes of terrorist acts and ask, have you seen enough? Are you ready to fight back yet?

   If anyone out there has access to news footage of the September 11th attacks, including the celebrations in Baghdad, or if you would just like to encourage me to keep trying to get this done, email me at ba11game@cox.net

10. #1370
    On July 12th, 2004 at 7:53 pm, Edmund Hudson said:

    It must be tough being a Republican these days, but setting up a hip-hop artist as a strawman for the “bad rap” Bush is receiving is pathetic.

11. #1371
    On July 12th, 2004 at 7:57 pm, The Spectre said:

    Ms Malkin, it is absolutely ridiculous that you would have a problem with someone voicing their point of view.

    You protest because Jadakiss does not share the same opinion as you?? Ridiculous.

    As for his listeners taking it as gospel without questioning it, at least he has questioned what Republicans take as gospel from their God (and supreme court) appointed leader…

    By the way, didn’t the 9/11 commission find that Bush did not act correctly? Oh, but they don’t know what they’re talking about, right? And there are no weapons of mass destruction. Oh, but they’ll find them eventually, right? And Bush and his cronies were profiting from post 9/11 insurgencies into Afghanistan and Iraq. Oh, but that doesn’t really count, right?

    So if you’re President, it’s ok to deceive entire nations, steal an election, and put the lives of your citizens on the line so you can make good business deals. But if you’re an entertainer who wants to make a point, you better not do it!! I suppose that’s logical, right??

    You guys really need to give it a rest, you’re COMPLETELY wrong on this one and it’s embarrassing to watch you drown slowly in your re-election quagmire…

12. #1372
    On July 12th, 2004 at 8:07 pm, kdeweb said:

    So, why do they think this? What proof do they have? I am so tired of President Bush being blamed for something that he didn’t do, yet the people who are attacking him show no evidence to base their attacks on. Put up or shut up!

13. #1373
    On July 12th, 2004 at 8:14 pm, Steve Hayes said:

    Spectre, I wish I could be as oblivious to reality as you. I could literally sleep better at night. It is so much easier to blame Bush. You can believe there will be peace if we just defeat Bush in the election. Reality is the knife is coming for your neck regardless of the outcome of the election. Personally, I would rather have George W. Bush between me and that knife than the Johns.

    By the way, the notion that the President of the United States planned an attack on his own country is not an opinion, it is seditious slander.

14. #1374
    On July 12th, 2004 at 8:21 pm, Noble Eagle said:

    Spectre,
    Don’t give yourself a coronary beating your strawman. Michelle didn’t assert that these rappers should not be able to voice their opinions, just that their opinions are, in her opinion, way off base.

    BTW, you come off kind of silly telling others to “give it a rest” after moaning about the 2000 election being stolen. Talk about a subject that needs to be given a rest.

15. #1375
    On July 12th, 2004 at 9:04 pm, shcmeg said:

    I surfed over here from http://www.cornpone.net via http://www.imao.us. I have always enjoyed Michelle’s print work, and now that she has a blog, I plan to visit regularly. I figured her blog would have plenty of informed readers, and I see that to be true. But, with anything, there are always plenty of alternative viewpoints – which is fine. But alternative viewpoints (as with supportive viewpoints) should provide fact, backing, and logical arguments. SH and NE took care of Spectre (is this some JB theme?), but there is one problem with blaming President Bush for WMD. Spectre ignores the fact that President Clinton, France, Germany, the U.N., and practically everyone else claimed that SH had WMD. So was everyone else telling the truth and President Bush is lying – even when they make the same assertions? The “Bush is lying” argument is getting tired.
    Anyway Rockynoggin has a very good essay on the price of freedom.

    Check it out http://www.cornpone.net/2004/07/the_challenge.html

    As Mark Twain said in the essay http://nweb.pct.edu/homepage/staff/evavra/ENL111/Anthology/Twain01.htm

    “You tell me whar a man gits his corn pone, en I’ll tell you what his ‘pinions is.”

16. #1376
    On July 13th, 2004 at 1:33 am, zombyboy said:

    I won’t speak for anyone else, but I respect someone who can communicate an intelligent dissenting opinion. This rapper isn’t that person. Michael Moore isn’t that person.

    The fact is, I love a good debate, but there comes a time when the only possible response to an idiotic assertion is to call it what it is: wrong.

    What Spectre doesn’t realize is that most of us don’t have a problem with people sharing their well-considered opinions. What we have a problem with is the foolish suggestion that President Bush somehow knocked the towers down. That people could take that as some kind of a serious political comment (in the same way that they can take Michael Moore’s manipulative propaganda as serious political commentary) is what is so galling.

17. #1377
    On July 13th, 2004 at 8:34 am, GsOuPx said:

    This is a non-issue. Anyone who heard this song on the radio more likely heard a version in which that line was edited out.

18. #1378
    On July 13th, 2004 at 4:15 pm, megapotamus said:

    I think you will have a long, hard look trying to find a “pro-Bush” rapper but one might check out Nappy Roots on Watermelon, Chicken and Grits for some mentions of 9-11 that are sentimental though not overtly patriotic. They do otherwise ROCK as well.

19. #1379
    On July 13th, 2004 at 5:00 pm, The Spectre said:

    Honestly, you people are not even worth explaining the concept of logic to. It boggles my mind how you can continue to support a man who LIED to the world about WMD, INSISTS that his actions were right even though MOST of the world, including his own government’s inquiries, oppose him and obviously had much to gain from this ‘war on terrorism’. Yet you STILL support him…?? Anyone who makes up their mind without examining the issues is a completely ignorant FOOL.

    You should feel ashamed for yourselves after being lied to continuously and STILL supporting the liar and opposing anyone who thinks differently. That is NOT what democracy is! It is not “seditious slander” to have an opinion!! What is wrong with you people??? You can say whatever you’d like and I don’t recall Bush ever proving how the world is a better place since the Iraq invasion. Yeah, people being beheaded, more troops dying, more citizens losing faith in their government, more countries losing faith in America. Yeah, that sounds great! So much better than five years ago!!

    As for what Bush did, do you not have a problem with the fact that he’s friends with the family that is responsible for sep 11??? Do you not think that perhaps this was the wrong thing to do??? There is PLENTY more media out there, including a little film called Fahrenheit 9/11, but that’s all lies, right? And no Americans have actually died in Iraq, that’s all lies too, right? And Bush really did find WMD, but the “liberal media” won’t tell us, right? And Michael Moore is really a communist, right? Oh no, that’s what you called people 20 years ago, now it’s terrorist, so that’s what he is, right? In fact, if you look really close at the 9/11 footage, you can see him piloting the plane and I’m sitting next to him, right??

    Don’t you understand?? Americans are upset that they were lied to and their fellow citizens have died and are continuing to die for what they see as pointless reasons. Oh, but Jadakiss doesn’t count because he’s black and he’s an entertainer, right? But Britney Spears does because she supported Bush, right? Give it a rest, you just can’t stand to see your bubble burst…

    In conclusion, who should be blamed for this mess if not Bush? John Kerry, right? Michael Moore, right? It was their fault, right?

    By the way, yes, the 2000 election is a big stain on American history. If you want people to get over it, then you should get over people not liking Bush. Understand that a lot of people didn’t want him in office and it hurts to see fellow Americans dying for nothing and someone who may not even have won the election keeps insisting he’s right and you sheep keep supporting this liar…

20. #1380
    On July 13th, 2004 at 10:33 pm, Javier Gonzalez said:

    Is there and kind of music or rap that u dont think is bad? And u must really know nothing trying to compare Jadakiss to Tupac Shakur. One would think you knew more being a writer and all. I mean you did an atricle on “2Pac” come on do your homework lady.

21. #1381
    On July 13th, 2004 at 11:59 pm, h0mi said:

    You should feel ashamed for yourselves after being lied to continuously and STILL supporting the liar and opposing anyone who thinks differently.

    Every meme about “Bush lied” has been proven to be false.
    There is PLENTY more media out there, including a little film called Fahrenheit 9/11, but that’s all lies, right?
    Lies, innuendo and filled with lazy thinking, yes.

    By the way, yes, the 2000 election is a big stain on American history. If you want people to get over it, then you should get over people not liking Bush.

    I’ll get over people not liking Bush when they get over people not liking Clinton. Then we can have a conversation.

22. #1382
    On July 14th, 2004 at 10:09 am, h0mi said:

    Ms Malkin, it is absolutely ridiculous that you would have a problem with someone voicing their point of view.

    You clearly do not understand Ms Malkin’s point.

    It is not that someone voiced their point of view. It is the view that has been voiced.

    Remember when far right wing commentators accused Bill Clinton of having murdered Vince Foster? Jadakiss has as much right to rap about believing Bush to be behind 9/11 as the “Clinton Chronicles” has to write about Clinton being responsible for the death of Vince Foster or Ron Brown. That doesn’t make the viewpoint defensible.

    You guys really need to give it a rest

    Tell you what. I’ll “give it a rest” when the left “gives it a rest” about Reagan and about all the Clinton hatred.

    Deal?

23. #1383
    On July 14th, 2004 at 10:09 am, h0mi said:

    woops. double post. Sorry.

24. #1384
    On July 14th, 2004 at 1:14 pm, AWG said:

    Spectre,

    Do you HONESTLY believe that simply REPEATING your ACCUSATIONS in ALL CAPS and adding lots of PUNCTUATION MARKS is a substitute for providing some kind of SUPPORT for your CLAIMS??!?!??

25. #1385
    On July 14th, 2004 at 10:37 pm, Brian Blanton said:

    Why do you people believe everything this woman writes? Boots Riley and Jadakiss are no way associated w/ each other, not that it would be a bad thing if they were. Have any of you even actually listened to the song in question (easily the best song on an album that otherwise was a bit of a disappointment). Hip-hop must continue to serve as a voice of dissent in our society. Sadly, most ‘maintream’ acts only glorify the capitalist pursuit of material objects. Of course this all makes sense when you consider rich corporations are the ones who own the radio stations. What kind of stuff do you think they want people to hear. Certainly not the voices of discontent.