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		<title>By: damnum absque injuria</title>
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		<dc:creator>damnum absque injuria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2004 09:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Day Two&lt;/strong&gt;

RINOs get a bad rap.</description>
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<p>RINOs get a bad rap.</p>
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		<title>By: One Fine Jay</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2004/07/17/conservatives-not-welcome/comment-page-1/#comment-2315</link>
		<dc:creator>One Fine Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2004 00:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The sum of the parts&lt;/strong&gt;

There comes in the growth and maturity of one who ponders politics when cogito, ergo sum gives way to sum, ergo cogito. It is left to those who still ascribe to the former schema of formulating policy positions and opinions in their ponderances to keep...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The sum of the parts</strong></p>
<p>There comes in the growth and maturity of one who ponders politics when cogito, ergo sum gives way to sum, ergo cogito. It is left to those who still ascribe to the former schema of formulating policy positions and opinions in their ponderances to keep&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: batesline.com</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2004/07/17/conservatives-not-welcome/comment-page-1/#comment-2314</link>
		<dc:creator>batesline.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2004 06:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Convention wishes&lt;/strong&gt;

There&#039;s a teleconference for Republican National Convention delegates on Monday night. It&#039;s good timing: Watching this week&#039;s Democrat convention has got me thinking about our shindig in a month&#039;s time. Here&#039;s my wish list: No lame pop music from the &#039;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Convention wishes</strong></p>
<p>There&#8217;s a teleconference for Republican National Convention delegates on Monday night. It&#8217;s good timing: Watching this week&#8217;s Democrat convention has got me thinking about our shindig in a month&#8217;s time. Here&#8217;s my wish list: No lame pop music from the &#8216;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: chewydog</title>
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		<dc:creator>chewydog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2004 07:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tancredo
The Co. media trash him daily. I don&#039;t know if he&#039;s all that conservative(not my district). Gee, do you think the average American voter has a big objection to enforcing our laws? Speaker?..Never happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tancredo<br />
The Co. media trash him daily. I don&#8217;t know if he&#8217;s all that conservative(not my district). Gee, do you think the average American voter has a big objection to enforcing our laws? Speaker?..Never happen.</p>
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		<title>By: clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2004 06:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael Reagan!

As a speaker, Michael Reagan would be a slap against the Dems using Ron Reagan in Boston; plus, he can make the pitch that Bush and the Republican party have their roots in his father Ronald Reagan.</description>
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<p>As a speaker, Michael Reagan would be a slap against the Dems using Ron Reagan in Boston; plus, he can make the pitch that Bush and the Republican party have their roots in his father Ronald Reagan.</p>
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		<title>By: Carolus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carolus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2004 06:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erika Harold and Alan Keyes woud be great additions to our dream-list - much as it might offend leftists (aka &quot;moderates&quot;) like Tim.

Xrlq makes a strong argument. The odds of Kerry appointing anyone but a Marxist are zero. With GWB, we might get a few decent federal judges. Gonzales is a disaster, as is O&#039;Connor - who is rumored to be Bush&#039;s pick for chief justice. I happen to live in a leftist-owned state (Illinois) which Bush hasn&#039;t a prayer of winning. So, I&#039;ll probably vote for the Constitution Party just to send the Illinois RINO-mafia a message.

If it should by some miracle look close for this state by October, I&#039;ll likely hold my nose and vote for GWB.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erika Harold and Alan Keyes woud be great additions to our dream-list &#8211; much as it might offend leftists (aka &#8220;moderates&#8221;) like Tim.</p>
<p>Xrlq makes a strong argument. The odds of Kerry appointing anyone but a Marxist are zero. With GWB, we might get a few decent federal judges. Gonzales is a disaster, as is O&#8217;Connor &#8211; who is rumored to be Bush&#8217;s pick for chief justice. I happen to live in a leftist-owned state (Illinois) which Bush hasn&#8217;t a prayer of winning. So, I&#8217;ll probably vote for the Constitution Party just to send the Illinois RINO-mafia a message.</p>
<p>If it should by some miracle look close for this state by October, I&#8217;ll likely hold my nose and vote for GWB.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Postal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Postal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2004 04:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems like perfect timing to let Bill Buckley speak.</description>
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		<title>By: Martin aka Blogbat</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2004/07/17/conservatives-not-welcome/comment-page-1/#comment-2307</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin aka Blogbat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2004 02:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>„Ahnold“ does have charm. Na, er kann natürlich auch aweng gut Deutsch&#8212; wenn solche südliche Dialekte wirksam sind, äi?</p>
<p>I hate to get into a discussion on what the meaning of &#8220;is&#8221; is, but I suppose I can explore it a bit. By Ante-Reagan conservative do you mean the Rockefeller conservative? Well, I agree that was not the Gipper. That Rockefeller style is far cozier to the Bush types (though we shouldn&#8217;t beat around the Bush too much), as well as the Schwarzenegger’s and McCain’s (though they arguably are almost fully fledged Liberals). And certainly the Rockefeller’s were more dull than Reagan- the whole family (I should know, my mom dated one of them in the 60’s and found him quite boring, and so here I am). So people found Reagan, and who believed that the good old America they grew up believing in and seeing first hand was still there? </p>
<p>Reagan-Conservative, Americana, by whichever name anyone would wish to call it, identified with America&#8217;s values and was able to also articulate them well enough to let us know that it was so. That is a winning strategy, if I may sound so cynical. I don&#8217;t think too many of the public are after names, titles or labels as they are after records and chutzpah. Certainly Reagan measured well in both of them. The elder Bush was on his way to reform post-Reagan, but lacked that sense of destiny that allowed him to listen to the people more than he listened to the press, which of course made us lose our respect for his performance by virtue of his record. </p>
<p>Of course we hear from every corner that we must grow more liberal with each generation and all of that hogwash. Well, what does that say about being anything but a die-hard communist? If the rest of us are simply aspiring to one day be so Liberal, then why not just get it over with? </p>
<p>Obviously trends are made up of people who make choices because they let other people- or information- influence them. The trend in our country has been to the left because we have let ourselves be put upon by the Leftwing press and education establishment without even realizing it. Next thing you know, they will start sheering us every springtime :p</p>
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		<title>By: Xrlq</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xrlq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2004 02:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reagan wasn&#039;t a &quot;real conservative&quot; in his day, either, although he&#039;s fondly remembered that way now.  Right now, Arnold stumping for Bush is about the best we can do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reagan wasn&#8217;t a &#8220;real conservative&#8221; in his day, either, although he&#8217;s fondly remembered that way now.  Right now, Arnold stumping for Bush is about the best we can do.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin aka Blogbat</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2004/07/17/conservatives-not-welcome/comment-page-1/#comment-2305</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin aka Blogbat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2004 01:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well now, I&#039;m going to throw a curve ball and say that Rhetoric is of significant importance in any campaign, be it political or otherwise. Even in one&#039;s personal life (as the many Dr Laura fans here will likely agree). Any coach or Army officer will tell you that training matters, but without knowing why and who and that we can-- without, we are most surely beaten before we even try. Even Clinton knew this, which is why his staffers harped on not &quot;talking down the economy&quot;. Somewhere along the way we forget that ideas, policies and campaigns are still made up of people. Funny thing that is, really.

Now as for conservative trumping moderate to the public, I have to say I usually will agree with Tim Keller when he says,

&quot;The pattern here is that CONSERVATIVE policies WIN ballot propositions, while politically correct, LIBERAL Republican candidates who avoid these &quot;controversial issues&quot; LOSE elections.&quot;

Or have we bought that much of the liberal media over the past 20 years? Ronald Reagan wasn&#039;t popular because he was a great communicator, to paraphrase him, but because he communicated great ideas. What are the great ideas today? And who sells them with passion and optimism? That is America and that would sell because after all, it&#039;s real and honest and right. And Americans know it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well now, I&#8217;m going to throw a curve ball and say that Rhetoric is of significant importance in any campaign, be it political or otherwise. Even in one&#8217;s personal life (as the many Dr Laura fans here will likely agree). Any coach or Army officer will tell you that training matters, but without knowing why and who and that we can&#8211; without, we are most surely beaten before we even try. Even Clinton knew this, which is why his staffers harped on not &#8220;talking down the economy&#8221;. Somewhere along the way we forget that ideas, policies and campaigns are still made up of people. Funny thing that is, really.</p>
<p>Now as for conservative trumping moderate to the public, I have to say I usually will agree with Tim Keller when he says,</p>
<p>&#8220;The pattern here is that CONSERVATIVE policies WIN ballot propositions, while politically correct, LIBERAL Republican candidates who avoid these &#8220;controversial issues&#8221; LOSE elections.&#8221;</p>
<p>Or have we bought that much of the liberal media over the past 20 years? Ronald Reagan wasn&#8217;t popular because he was a great communicator, to paraphrase him, but because he communicated great ideas. What are the great ideas today? And who sells them with passion and optimism? That is America and that would sell because after all, it&#8217;s real and honest and right. And Americans know it.</p>
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		<title>By: Xrlq</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xrlq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2004 01:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joel, you&#039;re reaching.  Justice Souter is among the most liberal Justices on the bench.  Gonzales would not be, although admittedly, he is more liberal than my tastes.  Your own example, the Gratz and Grutter cases, proves as much.  Justice Souter voted to uphold affirmative action in both cases, while the Bush brief called on te court to split the baby by upholding it in Gratz and striking it down in Grutter, which is exactly what the Supreme Court did.  So the better analogy for Gonzales is not to Justice Souter, but to O&#039;Connor, the only Justice who sided with the Bush Administration in both cases.  And as far as Bush appointees goes, that&#039;s the worst case scenario.  The best case scenario is that he appoints Miguel Estrada, Janice Brown, or any of several other solid conservatives who John Kerry wouldn&#039;t touch with a ten foot pole.

But go ahead, cast a half a vote for Kerry if you wish.  He&#039;s going to carry California, regardless, so your vote and mine aren&#039;t really going to matter anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joel, you&#8217;re reaching.  Justice Souter is among the most liberal Justices on the bench.  Gonzales would not be, although admittedly, he is more liberal than my tastes.  Your own example, the Gratz and Grutter cases, proves as much.  Justice Souter voted to uphold affirmative action in both cases, while the Bush brief called on te court to split the baby by upholding it in Gratz and striking it down in Grutter, which is exactly what the Supreme Court did.  So the better analogy for Gonzales is not to Justice Souter, but to O&#8217;Connor, the only Justice who sided with the Bush Administration in both cases.  And as far as Bush appointees goes, that&#8217;s the worst case scenario.  The best case scenario is that he appoints Miguel Estrada, Janice Brown, or any of several other solid conservatives who John Kerry wouldn&#8217;t touch with a ten foot pole.</p>
<p>But go ahead, cast a half a vote for Kerry if you wish.  He&#8217;s going to carry California, regardless, so your vote and mine aren&#8217;t really going to matter anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2004 01:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not viting for George Bush is like slitting your own throat! Why would you enable Kerry by not voting for Bush?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not viting for George Bush is like slitting your own throat! Why would you enable Kerry by not voting for Bush?</p>
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		<title>By: damnum absque injuria</title>
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		<dc:creator>damnum absque injuria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2004 01:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Real Repulicans: Non-Purists Need Not Apply&lt;/strong&gt;

Right now, all the  Real Republicansâ„¢ are up in arms over the fact that four whole liberal pro-choice Republicans will be filling prime-time slots at the G.O.P. convention.  Worse yet, one of those four, Michael Bloomberg, is actually a liberal in ot...</description>
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<p>Right now, all the  Real Republicansâ„¢ are up in arms over the fact that four whole liberal pro-choice Republicans will be filling prime-time slots at the G.O.P. convention.  Worse yet, one of those four, Michael Bloomberg, is actually a liberal in ot&#8230;</p>
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