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1. #1
   On July 18th, 2004 at 3:57 pm, Ultrasonoman said:

   Can we get a name and address on this lady? I’d love to send her son birthday cards for the next 18 years, addressed to him and his two absent siblings.

2. #2
   On July 18th, 2004 at 3:57 pm, Matt said:

   Apart from it being in the public domain, she sounds so self-absorbed she’ll probably regale people she meets oblivious to her son’s presence. And the absence of the other two.

3. #3
   On July 18th, 2004 at 3:59 pm, Joel (No Pundit Intended) said:

   We are witnessing “entitlement” at its most sinister. It is time to re-assess our values as a nation, when it becomes acceptable to deny the most basic of our inalienable rights to innocents for our own vanity. It is vile, to say the least.

4. #4
   On July 18th, 2004 at 4:20 pm, Mad Mikey said:

   It is shallow people like this ‘lady’ that really cause me to think that being a parent ought to require a license….

5. #5
   On July 18th, 2004 at 4:32 pm, Wil Cruz said:

   For the sake of her vanity and her social status,she was willing to do this.This woman is despicable beyond belief and that includes her partner and her doctor.I will support abortion if it is a medical necessity,but this is not abortion,this is a deliberate,calculated murder of two viable fetuses for the sake of a very shallow woman.

6. #6
   On July 18th, 2004 at 4:36 pm, Drethelin said:

   I dunno. It seems like a useful technique to enforce childhood discipline. “I got rid of the other two, and if you don’t shape up, I could just as easily do it to you!”

7. #7
   On July 18th, 2004 at 4:37 pm, Lester San Jose said:

   It’s sad that people mistake freedom for convenience.

8. #8
   On July 18th, 2004 at 4:43 pm, Holley said:

   This is not the voice of someone who has gone through childbirth! Even some of her details of Dr.’s visits don’t sound quite right. Sounds like another NYT fiction meant to stir up political fires. Misdirection, anyone?

9. #9
   On July 18th, 2004 at 4:43 pm, arielle said:

   that was sick. Adoption for her never even was a consideration. I’m sure she could have found many parents who would have gladly moved to staten island and much more to have her two children. I can’t believe she could so callously kill those two babies even after she heard the heartbeat.

10. #10
    On July 18th, 2004 at 4:51 pm, Alan said:

    It’s a good thing she destory an eagle egg or kill 2 spotted owls. She would be in prision right now.

11. #11
    On July 18th, 2004 at 4:54 pm, Darleen said:

    I think I’m going to be ill. Then I’m going to cry.

    Two years ago my daughter went into labor at 30 weeks gestation with her identical twin boys. This after a hugely difficult pregnancy. She spent 3 weeks in the hospital, on her back, magnesium drip to stop the labor, until she had a C-section. The boys then went into NICU for 4 weeks.

    on 9/27 my twin grandsons Nicholas & Sean will be two. I can’t imagine life without these two lively, funny, frustrating, get-into-everything, michevious little human beings.

    Excuse me but, WTF if she only wanted one didn’t she just have them and give up the twins for adoption? What kind of selfish b*tch says

    “That’s easy for you to say, but I’d have to give up my life”

    No sweetums, you give up a few months and gain a few stretch marks. Your CHILDREN gave up their lives!

    I want to throw something!

12. #12
    On July 18th, 2004 at 5:21 pm, Francis W. Porretto said:

    After I read that article this morning, I had to go off by myself for quite a while. I couldn’t believe that any woman could bring herself to do such a thing. The story literally left me shaking.

    God grant that her surviving child never learns of the circumstances of his gestation. I can’t imagine the shock it would cause him.

13. #13
    On July 18th, 2004 at 5:26 pm, Pamela said:

    I’m saddened by this, but not surprised. When we started down this narcissistic path (if it feels good do it and suffer no consequences) 30+ years ago it was inevitable that this is where it would lead.

    May God have mercy on us and our country.

14. #14
    On July 18th, 2004 at 5:26 pm, Lizzie said:

    Yes, this is creepy to an extreme that almost brings me to despair.

    Is it just me, or is this woman a bit of an abomination. Is there something dead inside her? Me, me, me, I, I, I…oh yeah, Peter, me, me, me, I, I, I, saw their hearts beating, stopped two of them, you con’t expect me to go live on Staten Island and shop at COSTCO do you???? Don’t you understand all I could eat was sour apple gum? I was focusing on staying relaxed before this ‘procedure’ don’t you know. Because what are we if we don’t stay relaxed?

    This make me ill. If she didn’t want the twins, she could have given them up for adoption. Thousands would have wanted them. The adoptive parents would gladly have paid her whatever income she’d have lost from delivering them, I’m quite certain.

    This woman clearly believes the she is the sun, and the world spins around her. Her poor son will learn the same. He won’t have had the chance to learn differently because his siblings, who might have helped him learn about sharing, sacrifice, co-operation and the larger world are dead. She can’t possibly teach him about heroism or selflessness because it doesn’t reside inside her.

    Even the way she writes about her son. “Everything was fine…” No gushing, no “I can’t imagine him not in my life” - well, no, if she said that she’d have to imagine having the three of them in her life…she doesn’t sound like she is the most instrospective of creatures. If she ever thinks about what she is missing with the twins, she likely ends with, ‘but then I wouldn’t have been able to give my son all the things he needs and my full attention’…assuming she gives him that, now. To me, she doesn’t sound real attached to him. But maybe when you destroy two of your babies, it’s hard to attach to the third.
    God have mercy on her and on all of us, because this is the world we’ve allowed to take form around us. God is just. But I’m praying for his mercy.

    What bothers me more than anything about this is that - okay, say the woman in an agnostic or an atheist - that doesn’t change the fact that in EVERY spiritual tradition throughout the ages (except perhaps satanism) a baby is always looked at as a blessing. Look through ‘enlightened’ spiritual materials, and you will never find a word about babies except that the are gifts. This woman got blessed three times. She threw two of the blessings away. Chilling. Absolutely chilling.

15. #15
    On July 18th, 2004 at 5:39 pm, Ari said:

    This woman’s decision, unfortunately, is the logical consequence of the “pro-choice” movement’s insistence that a fetus is not a human life. For if a fetus is not a human child, abortion or selective reduction is merely another choice. The reason, whether it be desire for a male child (as happens in countries like China), or simply a desire not to avoid inconvenience, is enough if that is the mother’s desire, if the abortion or reduction does not destroy a human life. That is why the pro-choicers so strongly opposed the Laci Peterson law. Giving the fetus “personhood” would create a moral imperative that would not allow for abortions of convenience.

    Of course, I disagree with this viewpoint. One could argue (which I’m not) for selective reduction of, say, quintuplets, if the chances of any of them surviving was small if nothing was done. But even in such cases, it’s troubling. Selective reduction as a lifestyle choice, by contrast, strikes me as clearly immoral.

    My wife is currently in the 21st week of a very difficult pregnancy with twins. Despite the physical strain, we are doing our best to bring both babies-yes BABIES- to term, even if we will need to buy mayo at Costco.

16. #16
    On July 18th, 2004 at 5:45 pm, L. Grattan said:

    I was shocked to see that a woman would go through with such a thing and then tell the world about it. I was even more shocked to see the New York Times print it. What was the point of this article?

    If this story is accurate, she should have her ’surviving’ child taken from her. I don’t suppose it has crossed her mind to get married.

    It is a tragic story, encouraged by our government and our institutions (including many so called “churches”. What have we become?

17. #17
    On July 18th, 2004 at 5:46 pm, Renee said:

    I was “shocked” at the selfishness of this woman (she makes Martha Stewart look like a saint). Every comment was I, I, I. I was also struck by the occasional question from her “boyfriend” (she made him seem human at least). I’d venture to say, he won’t be around in 10 years (I’d be surprised if he is). Makes one wonder, if she starts getting a “lag” in her freelance writing gigs and has to move out of the village anyway… is she going to have the kid “bumped” off because she needs the money to buy her Manilo Blaniks? Makes one wonder.

18. #18
    On July 18th, 2004 at 5:59 pm, Thief said:

    I feel the worst for the kid. Sooner or later he’s going to find a copy of his mom’s article, and it’s probably going to tear him apart.

    Michelle, please make a note to track this kid down in 20 years and see what happened.

19. #19
    On July 18th, 2004 at 6:30 pm, Spoons said:

    Monstrous.

20. #20
    On July 18th, 2004 at 6:31 pm, Brando said:

    Let’s assume she is as sick as she is…Where was her husband, her mother, her friends,and who gives this doctor the right to do this? He must be a freek…..What have we come to.?

    I hope this opens some eyes. I will push it on our site….

    Keep up the good work……

21. #21
    On July 18th, 2004 at 6:51 pm, Miss O'Hara said:

    What a horrifyingly vile lack of emotion. >shudder< I wonder what kind of man that son will turn out to be, being raised by such a creature?

22. #22
    On July 18th, 2004 at 7:20 pm, Just a guy said:

    What a despicable, sorrowful, vile act. Note that she’s “terrified” of getting pregnant again, but probably won’t stop having sex. When “selective reduction” is so convenient and cosmopolitan, why bother with self-restraint?

    I am not a strong pro-lifer, but this is monstrous. She knew all three would become children, but still chose to kill two. This is no more than picking children from a store shelf - “I’ll take that one there w/ the cute little penis. He won’t be much trouble will he?”

23. #23
    On July 18th, 2004 at 8:15 pm, syn said:

    She is the one who does not deserve to live.

24. #24
    On July 18th, 2004 at 8:54 pm, Patton said:

    Chilling, indeed. More troubling than the fact that she did it, or the fact that it was reported in the paper of record, she told the story so vacantly that it’s not clear to me why she didn’t just have them all killed.

    I’d not been previously aware of “selective reduction”, and had never been faced with the question. Therefore, I find myself appalled in a brand new way.

25. #25
    On July 18th, 2004 at 9:17 pm, Tom said:

    Posted at 9:10 pm Sunday, 18 July 2004.

    My Mom will be dead in 24 - 72 hours. This afternoon she comforted my sister.

    Let’s hope the cosmopolitan woman has some one to comfort in 60 years.

26. #26
    On July 18th, 2004 at 9:29 pm, Baillie said:

    Dear God in Heaven.

    The woman has made herself Night and Abyss.

27. #27
    On July 18th, 2004 at 9:32 pm, Michelle M. said:

    Tom - My deepest condolences and prayers for your family.

28. #28
    On July 18th, 2004 at 9:32 pm, Michele said:

    Is this Amy Richards of “Manifesta” fame? The same woman who co-wrote that book with Jennifer Baumgardner?

    That’s the most horrifying thing I’ve read about abortion in awhile. I hope this woman is made aware someday of the horror of her selfishness.

    I’ll be praying for her children tonight.

29. #29
    On July 18th, 2004 at 9:50 pm, GMC0471 said:

    This can be a good movie title:
    WANTED : Perfect Mother oops!
    Perfect Murder !!!

30. #30
    On July 18th, 2004 at 9:53 pm, Michelle M. said:

    Michele - Yup. Same one. See my update.

31. #31
    On July 18th, 2004 at 10:35 pm, don said:

    When I pull up the story online there is a list of “Related Articles” at the bottom of the page, the first of which is “N. KOREANS TALK OF BABY KILLINGS”. At least they’ve classified the article properly.

32. #32
    On July 18th, 2004 at 10:46 pm, george gaskell said:

    I’m glad the NYT printed this article. It might help people see the truly hideous nature of the pro-baby-murder crowd. It reveals the way these people really think.

    Ari mentioned earlier that they don’t see the baby as fully human. I’m not so sure.

    First, even if they truly believe that an unborn baby is not a person, that is exactly the same thing the Nazis said about the Jews (before they murdered them), and the same thing the slave traders said about the Africans (before they enlaved them). The first step in committing genocide is always to DENY THE HUMANITY of the people you plan to kill.

    Second, I am not at all convinced that people like Amy Richards believe that unborn babies are not really human. A radical pro-infanticide piece of human garbage like her can see the heartbeats with her own eyes … but she just doesn’t care!

    Now that takes a special kind of cold-blooded killer.

33. #33
    On July 18th, 2004 at 10:46 pm, Tim T. said:

    Michelle said: “I can only imagine how her surviving son will feel when he grows up and learns about the fate of his siblings.”

    Will you be the one to tell him, Miss Richards, or will he stumble across it one day in the New York Times archives, or will he hear it from some total stranger? As he struggles to understand what happened, the realization will slowly dawn on him that he could just as easily have been one of the two, and that if he had been selected to die, his mother still would have said that “everything’s fine.”

34. #34
    On July 18th, 2004 at 10:53 pm, Brian said:

    Mrs. Malkin,

    Stephen King could not have written anything more chilling. I was sick to my stomach upon reading that.

35. #35
    On July 18th, 2004 at 10:54 pm, Jan said:

    As a woman who had to make a very tough decision about my own health during my last pregnancy I will defend that woman’s very poorly thoughout decision with my last breath.

    “She is the one who does not deserver to live”

    To that — I would say that you are makign the same judgement as her. If you think she is “sick” then you are the same.

36. #36
    On July 18th, 2004 at 11:01 pm, Brad Ervin said:

    Add another one to the “Are you sure it’s true?” crowd. Could it be that “dad” was scooted out of the room so as not to be able to monitor the gory event? They SURE don’t like witnesses.

37. #37
    On July 18th, 2004 at 11:08 pm, Wil Cruz said:

    Jan
    Read again what you post “As a woman who had to make a very tough decision about my own health during my last pregnancy.” Then take the time to read hers “And I had this adverse reaction: ”This is why they say it’s the woman’s choice, because you think I could just carry triplets. That’s easy for you to say, but I’d have to give up my life.” Not only would I have to be on bed rest at 20 weeks, I wouldn’t be able to fly after 15. I was already at eight weeks. When I found out about the triplets, I felt like: It’s not the back of a pickup at 16, but now I’m going to have to move to Staten Island. I’ll never leave my house because I’ll have to care for these children. I’ll have to start shopping only at Costco and buying big jars of mayonnaise. Even in my moments of thinking about having three, I don’t think that deep down I was ever considering it.”
    The magic word is this ,H-E-A-L-T-H,you made a tough choice because of it,she didn’t.She did it out of selfishness.That’s the difference and that is why many posters are extremely angry against her.Health was never an issue in regards to her pregnancy.

38. #38
    On July 18th, 2004 at 11:16 pm, Shawn Slaven said:

    Thank you for doing me the service of reading and commenting that piece of trash so I didn’t have to. I read the header on the NYT website and was too sickened to read the whole thing.

    Interesting note: the poll question attached to the article on the website asks if “selective reduction” should be illegal. 56% percent ***of New York Times readers*** said yes, it should be illegal.

    What does that tell you?

39. #39
    On July 18th, 2004 at 11:19 pm, Jeff Dehner said:

    “I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that His justice cannot sleep forever.”

    -Thomas Jefferson

40. #40
    On July 18th, 2004 at 11:20 pm, Thomas said:

    At Feminist.com, Amy Richards says: “my continual excitement of an organization in the South Bronx that trains women to go from welfare to work or a group of men who are working with other men to stop violence against women—and so much more.”

    I wonder what was the sex of her two murdered children. Did she merely kill “potential rapists” or did she commit violence against future womyn? This woman’s action is not creepy, it’s thoroughly disgusting and utterly amoral.

    I cannot agree with those who say stories such as this say something about the country. It says something very damning about Amy Richards. We are only a collective group in the abstract. Our triumphs, our pains, as well as the depravity of a few belongs to each as his own, along with the credit or curse as our actions merit. We often make too much of what it means to be an American, I think; because to be an American means being an individual.

41. #41
    On July 18th, 2004 at 11:30 pm, James C. Hes said:

    The following goes along with the matter of children, the unborn:

    Do you know Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry? Do you?

    Fact: John Kerry is financially supported by billionaire George Soros in his pursuit of the presidency of the United States of America.

    Fact: George Soros makes no effort to hide the fact he wants to legalize heroin in the United States.

    Fact: If Soros gets his way and heroin is legalized within the U.S. he intends to target two markets: Young adults between the ages of 22-35, and young children between the ages of 10-18.

    Fact: Heroin is a killer: Short- and long-term use of it will result in collapsed veins, bacterial infections, abscesses, infections of the heart lining and valves, arthritis and other rheumatologic problems, spontaneous abortion, reduced respiration, infectious diseases which include but are not limited to AIDS and Hepatitis B and C, liver and kidney failure, and reduced immunity.

    Fact: John Kerry has not publicly distanced himself from Soros and his desired nightmare for America.

    Fact: John Kerry has not publicly condemned George Soros’ intents and desires. Because he has not done so he implicitly supports the legalizing of heroin within the United States and the death sentence it will bring for America’s children.

    Now you know John Kerry, the man who would be President of the United States of America.

42. #42
    On July 18th, 2004 at 11:30 pm, Courtney said:

    Wow. This story struck really hard, as I’m a twin myself. I had to go off by myself for a while after reading it, like someone said above. I cannot comprehend losing my twin, and I feel for the one remaining triplet. He’ll never know how much he lost. How could the mother have chosen between her children? How could any mother do that?

43. #43
    On July 18th, 2004 at 11:34 pm, onecent said:

    As disgusting is the smarmy culture of the NYT’s in that it finds this despicable narcissist topical and cameos her “ordeal”.