“Shall we finish it off?”
If you haven’t seen the New York Times story posted late this afternoon on the 9/11 report’s account of Flight 93, you are in for another bone-chilling experience. Excerpt:
Of the 33 passengers on the plane who were not hijackers, at least 10, and two crew members, spoke to people on the ground. At least five of the calls included discussion of the World Trade Center. At 9:57, about seven minutes before the end, one of the passengers ended her conversation saying: “Everyone’s running up to first class. I’ve got to go. Bye.”
The report indicates that Mr. Jarrah, at the controls of United 93, did what many airline pilots have fantasized about since the hijackings: tried to maneuver the plane sharply, rolling and pitching, to keep control of the cockpit. It apparently did not work; the plane crashed in rural Pennsylvania.
The report does not clarify whether the hijackers’ goal for Flight 93 was the White House or the Capitol, but indicates that the hijackers tuned a cockpit radio to the frequency of a navigation beacon at National Airport, just across the Potomac River from the capital, erasing any doubt about the region of their intended destination.
At three seconds after 10 a.m., Mr. Jarrah is heard on the cockpit voice recorder saying: “Is that it? Shall we finish it off?”
But another hijacker responds: “No. Not yet. When they all come, we finish it off.”
The voice recorder captured sounds of continued fighting, and Mr. Jarrah pitched the plane up and then down. A passenger is heard to say, “In the cockpit. If we don’t we’ll die!”
Then a passenger yelled “Roll it!” Some aviation experts have speculated that this was a reference to a food cart, being used as a battering ram.
Mr. Jarrah “stopped the violent maneuvers” at 10:01:00, according to the report, and said, “Allah is the greatest! Allah is the greatest!”
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This is the stuff heros are made of. To know the intent of the hijackers after talking to loved ones on there cell phones, they chose to fight and not just curl up and wait to die. God bless America!!!
The word “Heroic” doesn’t really do those passengers justice.
The Spirit of Liberty lives on. At the end of the day, it will always be everyday Americans who make a difference.
Either in the voting booth dispatching sound officials to their vital positions or in the cockpits of planes, denying the terrorist his target.
As annoying as it is to hear cell phones go off in our everyday lives, they really demonstrated their importance on this flight. If it wasn’t for them, the passengers wouldn’t have known about the WTC crashes and the fact that the terrorists had a faux bomb. Thank God they rushed those bastards.
The sacrifice that these brave souls made in order to ensure that more senseless deaths wouldn’t occur is amazing to me. In light of the current political climate and the inability/unwillingness to focus on the real enemies of this state, these accounts bring me (at least) back to the reality of what is truly important.
The Times must stop prefacing terrorists’ names with “Mr.”
Journalistic niceties do not apply to those maggots.
A pity that the Feds had done such a good job making sure that only the goblins had anything which could be used as a weapon.
The Muslims in your audience appreciate the extra emphasis on the “Allah is great!” portion of the transcript, Michelle. I hope it helps you sell more books!
It’s not just the feds though. I think everyone these days is terrified of being sued. We do need to start letting the public know how valuable they are as the front line defense against terrorism, but by the time it makes it through the lawyers, we get brilliant statements like, “ma’am, we know you are 80 and we know they are dentures, but if they can be used against a flight attendant, we will have to keep them. Sorry.”
Why we can’t fully blame the mostly Left-leaning trial lawyers for this environment, they certainly get their points for shutting down the conservative social and political opposition to their agenda.
The City of San Ramon, home town to Thomas Burnett, (who stated that “a group of us are going to do something…”) had a freeway overpass named after him. Not a park, not a monument – an overpass. Anyone think that the city could have done more?
I think of him and everyone else everytime I cross it – but this country, to honor the memory of those who died, must do much more. We must protect our boarders, we must hunt our enemies down, and we must change the cultures that created men who could do this.
The next time some sportscaster uses the term ‘heroic’ to describe some athlete’s exploits on the field, I hope someone shoves an account of Flight 93 in his face.
I’m sure there was some pork-barrel politician who already had the nearby park named after him. Oink.
The Illiberal Avenger is right, no reason to bring allah in here. As is well known terrorists were Irish Zionists.
I always knew those Fighting Irish had some Chutzpah!
“”The Muslims in your audience appreciate the extra emphasis on the “Allah is great!” portion of the transcript, Michelle. I hope it helps you sell more books!
“”
Well.. since I refuse to register at the NY times I can’t say whether she added the bold or they did.
I’m sure glad they are there though.. all this time I thought it was QLO (Quaker Luddite Organization) teaming up with the JBSU (Jewish Bacon Smokers Union). Who’d of thunk that the Religion of Peace could somehow be involved with a terrorist attack.
It gives me a sickening feeling when you read accounts like these, and then terrorist cheerleading scum like Michael Moore tarnishes their name by calling the passengers on those flights cowards.
It simply shows you that there is a growing problem in this country surrounding leftist influence fostering anti-American hatred.
As for the report itself, I don’t agree with Michael Savage alot, but I do agree with him when he says this was a whitewash. The fact that no administration was to blame for 9/11 in this report is utterly ridiculous, and I think most Americans know the truth.
She added the bold. Always pushing her agenda.
She added the bold. Always pushing her agenda.
*****
Uhhhmm – I don’t know maybe this is her site and she can do what ever the hell she wants. Just a thought. Well maybe more like a concept. The concept of ownership.
Those of us with moral clarity owe it to those good folks on flight 93 to finish this war against “Allah is the greatest!”. It’s so simple and necessary to personalize their ordeal, because Allah’s fascists wanted those violent deaths for all of us.
The idiots that refuse to get it are like some 1930’s Europeans denying the “gathering storm” that Churchill so aptly described in his memoirs. Islam is evil. It enslaves females, teaches intolerance and tolerates murder as an action pardonable and acceptable with salvation. (And, please. whatever Christianity did 1000 years ago isn’t NOW. It changed internally. It evolved. Islam isn’t and won’t.) Apologists of the all-cultures-are-equal mentality are misguided fools. They have been the useful idiots of all of history’s evil regimes.
Lib Avenger – I like the name…it’s like you’re some kind of super hero or something. “Look! Up in the sky! It’s a bird, It’s a yadda yadda yadda.
It must be fun defending the “Religion of Peace” all the time. Let’s see what’s going on in the world, shall we?
Afghanistan – al Qaeda vs USA
Egypt – fundamentalist Muslims vs secular Egyptian government
Indonesia – Muslims killing Christians
Kashmir – Muslims killing Hindus
Iraq – Islamofasicists killing Iraqis
Israel – Muslims killing Jews
Iran – radical Muslims killing other Muslims
Kosovo – Muslims killing Serbs
Nigeria – Muslims killing Christians
Sudan – again, Muslims killing Christians
Philippines – Muslims killing those evil Christians again
USA – well, we all know what’s been going on here
So she highlighted the Allah stuff…..WHO F*$%ING CARES???!!
Get a clue Super Hero.
MSNBC reporting that these 14 Syrian “musicians” had been travelling on expired visas. Their visas expired 3 weeks prior to this flight! And the FBI did not catch this. Amazing!
The evil BOLD!!!!
I think bold is great if one wants to draw attention to something. I suppose if we called it “highlighted” it might be more acceptable. Not quite so offensive to those who find BOLD to be racist, egotistic, overbearing, and otherwise offensive, but, it really works. Right now I am thinking, ALLAH IS THE GREATEST! ALLAH IS THE GREATEST!. Perhaps Michelle is trying to convert us all to Allah and you just dont get it?
I wonder if MR. Jarrah was whispering as he said Allahu Akbar!! Alluha Akbar!!?
The fact that it says MR. could be construed as denoting some affinity or respect for this vile killer on behalf of the New York Times. That would be preposterous though, wouldn’t it?
By the end of this story, no matter how many times I have heard it I am in tears, tears of pain, tears of pride, and tears of anger!
These are Americans, I know Americans like these, and John Kerry, you are not like these Americans!
YES, JOHN KERRY, LET AMERICANS BE AMERICAN!
DKK
Liberal Avenger Extreme never pushes an agenda of his own…. Just the facts.
Michelle,
That is a bone chilling read for certain. Thanks for letting us know about it.
On 9-11, when I heard about the plane going down in Penn, I knew that that people fought back. God bless their souls.
Liberal Avenger, I’m sorry if the emphasis on the terrorist’s last words makes you uncomfortable. I’m sorry if it makes Muslims uncomfortable.
But discomfort is often the first step towards salutary change. Perhaps Muslims made uncomfortable by the the emphasis on the terrorist’s last words should reflect on the enormity of invoking the Sacred Name in an evil cause, and see to it that their community is first in line to condemn such acts.
One cannot but reflect on the discomfort to millions of Americans on seeing thousands of their fellow citizens murdered by the co-conspirators of the terrorist that uttered those blasphemous last words.
“Perhaps Muslims made uncomfortable by the the emphasis on the terrorist’s last words should reflect on the enormity of invoking the Sacred Name in an evil cause, and see to it that their community is first in line to condemn such acts.”
Amen!
Bastards.
Whenever we get “tired” of the war on terror, we need to go back and read what those scum bags did to our people.
Wow dkk. Excellent segue into a snipe at Kerry. But since you brought it up, you don’t suppose volunteering for hazardous duty, earning medals in action, and saving the life of a comrade in combat are in any way comparable to the actions of flight 93’s passengers, do you?
If anything, it is Bush who is not like those Americans. It is Bush that cowered in safety while others answered the call to duty. And it is Bush who exploited the heroism and faith of normal Americans by starting a war unrelated to the attacks of 9/11.
But I will grant you that Kerry is weird looking. A little weary. He could use one of Bush’s trademark vacations for sure.
Gee, was it not the esteemed Michael Moore who brayed only yesterday in a rant to the Aladdin about First Amendement rights, about how AMERICANS (hey! in caps, no less!) can say anything they want to? Perhaps ALLAH IS THE GREATEST is considered acceptable as long as it is followed by (and so is Micheal Moore!)
Kelly,
Amazingly even after the attack on Pearl Harbor people failed to realize that we had been brought into a WORLD WAR. Unfortunately there are still those out there that fail to understand that this has happened again (including the amazing Mr. Kerry who feels the term war is too harsh.)
Was it part of the war on Japan to invade Africa? Your talking points completely deny history and the facts.
The War on Terror involves many fronts, the most prominent of which are:
– The Economic Homefront – the 9/11 attacks cost the US nearly 1 trillion. The agressive action by the administration turned the recession around (see Alan Greenspan comments 7/21/2004 for confirmation).
– Afganistan – the agressive action by the administration has liberated millions and disrupted terrorist command and control (see the 9/11 report.)
– Iraq – the agressive action by the administration has liberated millions and made the US safer (see the 9/11 commission report) as well as caused a vaccuum drawing many terrorists in to fight on our terms rather then on our soil.
– Reformation of our traditional alliances, trusting those who share our interests rather then those who would rather sell out for their oil vouchers.
– Continious strengthing of our homeland security.
Oh, and Mr. Kerry’s grandstanding in 1971 following his return – where he lied (knowingly!) and cost the lives of brave Americans is NOT the America I know.
DKK
Oh, and Kelly – you seemed to miss the part in the past 2 investigative reports that reviewed in depth the coordination and communication between Iraq and Al Qaeda, including an offer from Saddam allowing Bin Laden sanctuary in Iraq (see 9/11 report – 1998, 1999 offer).
DKK
Kelly, your comments through mostly wrong, were at least a respectable attempt at communicating your thoughts, unlike most of those communicated and otherwise by the caped Liberal Avenger fellow, lady, creature or whatever that person happens to be) and I respect that.
But more than anything else, I have to correct you on this point about our dear friend, the (skinny) Senator from Massachusetts:
I know a Viet-nam War hero.
A Viet-nam War hero is a father of mine.
And Mr. Kerry is no Viet-nam War hero.
Kerry doesn’t count as a war hero, why? Because he is tall and skinny? Because he was on a boat?
Huh?
He won a silver star by abandoning his post to adminster a coup de grace on a mortally wounded enemy attempting to leave the field of battle. He was awarded three purple hearts for dubious wounds and used it as an excuse to leave Viet Nam after only four months, and slandered his commrades after he returned. I personally know corpsmen in Iraq right now with three purple hearts who couldn’t conceive of leaving their friends. He’s no hero.
The word “Heroic” doesn’t really do those passengers justice.
No, Beck, it doesn’t. Primarily because the word ‘hero’ is now used to describe things like getting in and out of ‘Nam in 4 months by stretching and playing the rules around the awarding of medals. It cheapens the word significantly when it is used to describe those who simply went through the motions and performed at minimally acceptable levels.
Liberal Avenger, I will decry emphasis on associating Islam with murderous thugs like Jarrah and his cohorts, only after I see mainstream Islam decry the use of violence against innocents as any sort of Allah-sanctioned act.
I will denounce the comparison of the terrorists to a religion of peace, when the most vocal leaders of that religion make clear that these terrorists are offensive to Allah, and an abomination.
So long as Islam is silent on this matter, we have only the word of the murderers.
Salaam, Insh’Allah
LA and Rick, don’t try to impress us with military words you just learned at Kerry’s website. Benedict Arnold was a war hero…for awhile. At the end of the day the difference between a war hero and a traitor is where they stand at the end of the war. I think this is common sense to most people, a bit more normal. Otherwise everything you have seemingly done in support of your country was clearly a ruse to win favor and perform your betrayal.
My father too, won the silver and bronze stars. I am named after his best friend who gave his life saving wounded soldiers. But neither my dad nor his best friends family walks around all day telling people what heroes they are. They don’t have to; there is no doubt to dispel.
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Let’s remember that one of the heroes of Flight 93, Mark Bingham, was a gay businessman and amateur rugby player from San Francisco. How many people here who celebrate his heroism would also have denied him his right to marry and start a family had he survived?
You know, I’m thinking back to the 1996 presidential campaign and I can’t for the life of me recall any Democrats charging that Senator Bob Dole, who was seriously wounded in combat in Italy in 1944, wasn’t actually a war hero or that he somehow took unfair advantage by being evacuated from the front after being wounded. It just didn’t happen — Democrats didn’t sink to the level of impugning a wounded combat veteran’s service. It’s sad that so many people here don’t follow that example. For shame.
Stefan -
Two words: seriously wounded.
Two more words: paper cut.
Compare and contrast. Examples of words you may consider:
Quiet dignity.
Self-aggrandizing opportunist.
It’s too bad the passengers did not break into the cockpit and literally tear the hijacker’s eyeballs out and turn them into a bloody pulp.
“”If anything, it is Bush who is not like those Americans. It is Bush that cowered in safety while others answered the call to duty. And it is Bush who exploited the heroism and faith of normal Americans by starting a war unrelated to the attacks of 9/11. “”
And once again the national guard card is played. The only way Bush could have seen combat in his unit was if Soviet bombers were comming over the north pole.
LA and stefan, go to hell.
Vietnam vet
not a baby killer
not a war criminal
not a hero
not voting for kerry
“How many people here who celebrate his heroism would also have denied him his right to marry and start a family had he survived?”
I wouldn’t, assuming that both he and the woman he married were serious about their commitment.