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Remember the story from last week about the flight with the band of 14 Syrians aboard? The same 14 who were detained upon landing, then let go, even thought their visas had expired? Well, they may be a band, but…

1. I spoke by phone this week several times to Dave Adams at the Federal Air Marshals Service, on the record. He confirmed Annie Jacobsen’s account of what happened on that flight, but he said that the men were not terrorists, only musicians. If I had been on that flight, I would have been as alarmed by the behavior of those musicians as Annie Jacobsen. You don’t have six Arab men traveling together stand up as the plane is descending, disobeying the seat-belt sign, and decide to go potty without thinking, Something very strange is going on here.

2. I’ve been barked at on planes post-9/11 by flight attendants for doing far less than those Syrians did. Why did those flight attendants let them get away with violating federal rules, and not say a thing to them the whole time if they (the flight attdts) weren’t frightened too?

3. I spoke to a top airline industry security expert this week, on background. I asked him what he thought of the Annie Jacobsen story. He said that innocently or not, the way the Syrians behaved on the plane was very much in line with how young Arab male passengers behave during what the airline he’s affiliated with has concluded were post-9/11 “dry runs” — which this expert said were happening all the time.

You weren’t part of the people dumping on Annie? I believe you did.

BTW, You pursuaded me. To believe what I don’t know. But you definately pursuaded me with your wit and intellect.

You called people names again. So typical of a liberal. Yes. I generalize and you fulfill.

If you are truly without fear, then I suggest you join the Army or Marine Corps and volunteer to serve in Iraq and Afghanistan. Living without fear in the US is not a very impressive feat. Living without fear while actually defending your country is another thing.

At least our men and women who serve have conquered that fear, and are able to support your right to live without a care in the world. So don’t complain when you are dead. Just don’t volunteer to be carefree with our lives when the rest of us are careful with whom we trust it.

You may think anyway you wish. You may only act in conformance to our law and our customs if you want our approval or our acceptance of your behavior. All these events have proven is that that bloggers, reporters, and normal folks who aren’t intelligence analysts or security personnel have no business expressing their views as if they know better than the people who do this for a living. Intelligence and security belong in the hands of professional who will do their best, maybe make mistakes, but eventually catch the bad folks through a chain of evidence and information.

I don’t know if the story is true or false, wrong or right. But it is at least evidence the government took it seriously enough to investigate and that Ms. Jacobson was certainly correct to be concerned. No harm, no foul yet on either side. But shame on us if we trust this was nothing to be looked at and she was just a hysterical female.

So far, everybody’s post here is pretty far over the top.

Aren’t you the overgeneralizing paranoid. I wrote nothing upon which you can base your screed against me. I never called anybody names. But from your response to what I did write I feel quite justified in calling you paranoid.

Your rhetoric is extreme. Your rhetoric doesn’t account for all of the facts of the case and all of the facts that have presented themselves over the past couple decades and September 11th.

You don’t pursuade anyone with your rhetoric. You only dissuade and it’ll be the reason for George Bush winning even though he is too liberal for the average conservative and libertarian. Because on the one issue of national security we have common sense and you guys have illogic.

You make judement after judgement of us instead of debating the points or issues. One day I hope, you can debate without name calling and judging us the way you do. It isn’t helpful.

Tar and feathering Annie does the opposite of furthering our national security. It’ll be hard pressed for another Annie to come forward with their story because of fear of being maligned and torn apart by the likes of you three.

The less we hear from Annie’s about their experiences the less we benefit and the more we lose. If we all collectively come to the realization that those were perfectly fine gentlement who used the lavaratory for praying and the items they brough with them back and forth were just fine then GOOD ! We all WIN !

But if in the process we all come to the collective realization that it might be wise to prohibit bringing items like camera’s (which can be gutted and have different inards) back and forth to other passengers, then GOOD ! We all WIN ! And if we come to the realization that it isn’t good to have a line for the lavaratory in the front of the plane near the cockpit and we come up with another system instead of a line then GOOD ! We all WIN !

If you guys want to write “hysterical”, “racist”, “living in fear” blah blah blah. Go ahead. But you are living with your head in the sand after a WELL ESTABLISHED PATTERN has been REALIZED. Like the happy go lucky puppy that hasn’t learned yet when the bad owner raises his hand to strike that he just might strike. Sad.

It’s sadder that you’re that puppy telling other puppies (us) that they are stupid for living in fear when all we are doing is discussing, watching, documenting and even hoping for a little more pattern acceptance in the questioning and searching of those WHO HAVE ESTABLISHED THE PATTERN.

Terror in the Skies, Again? (Parts 1 & 2) by Annie Jacobsen has sparked an interesting debate in the blogosphere.
As could be expected people are largely split into two camps:

The first camp, led by Michelle “The Marauder” Malkin, believes that th…

I would think that if there is another attack on our homeland it would most likely come from those who have threatened to do so. That, I believe would be radical Mid Eastern Islamic Jihadists.

Two reactions would follow. First the media would tell us about the discriptions of the “alleged: hi-jackers, and then they would tell us that it was all the fault of President Bush.

If more people were willing to fly with large groups of young Middle Eastern men or women we could get “logical (liberal) statistics” for the percentage of attacks on innocent civilians. Anyone want to volunteer?

My reaction to this is good for Annie…Profiling??? You bet. If my loved ones or I am flying I want the whole profiling routine on all the passengers, flight crew, ground crew, luggage handlers, maintenance and fueling crew.

Do we watch for suspicious behavior? Uh Huh. Why do they make so many trips to the facilities? Do they all have bladder problems….or could it be a more sinister reason?

“You are fear-addicts and you need your fix. Whether its foreigners or homosexuals you will harvest and process your boogey-men and nothing will get in your way.”

With all due respect,this is about common sense, not fear. When you’ve been bitten by a rattlesnake, you don’t go looking for tweetie birds.

And I think it’s outrageous that honest people who recognize that fact feel compelled to lead off their comments with statements like “I hope this doesn’t sound racist” as an apology in advance to all the civil libertarians for using the brains God gave them.

It’s not about “foreigners” either. If those 24 9/11 perpetrators had all been caucasians from Alabama, you can betanyone would be uneasy on a flight with a dozen white guys in”Go Bama” T shirts carrying on the way these Syrian musicians did.

I have a lifelong liberal friend, a former news broadcaster, who is addicted to that kind of tortured apologist logic.

Here’s a portion of an email he sent me in response to the airline experience of Annie Jacobsen being discussed here….

“… I remain concerned about our loss of freedoms beyond the air travel issue. Balance is the key, I suppose. I just don’t want the balance to tip so far toward security that we are willing to let some extremists take over our government. Think Hitler, Stalin, etc. types…”

Talk about irrational fear and boogey men!

If you haven’t run into it already, this is the standard liberal response to logic and common sense-paranoid hyperbole.

Mention a prayer at a high school football game and they natter about a looming theocratic state.

Mention the logic of screening potential rattlesnakes at airports instead of hassling 80 year paraplegic grandmothers from Utah and they go into their “think Hitler, Stalin, etc” routines.

I’d love to see my friend, along with some of the “irrational fear” scribes here board an aircraft with 16 to 18 Syrians on it wearing Allah Akbar T shirts and sneakers with fuses sticking out of the heels, scurrying back and forth to the
bathroom, passing notes, box cutters and cold solder up and down the aisle.

“Would you mind holding this gel pack while I solder this wire, buddy”?

StewaRDEESSSSSSSSSSSSSS…….!!!!!

Apparently the air marshals on the flight say the real danger was posed by the author of the “Terror in the Skies” piece — because she allegedly overreacted. UP

From Eric Leonard at KFI News: 1. The Syrians who freaked out Annie Jacobsen and the twitchier corners of the blogosphere — they seem really to have been just a harmless band of musicians. Federal agents later verified the musicians’ story. “We follow…