Quip of the day
Teenage golf phenomenon Michelle Wie shared her Deep Thoughts on global warming with Golf Digest:
Global warming is a huge problem. Al Gore talks about it all the time. Have you seen “The Day After Tomorrow”? The huge hole in the ozone layer. Something has to be done about it.”
Michelle’s vacuous eco-musings prompted a wry member of Free Republic to paraphrase the title of Laura Ingraham’s book on goofy liberal elites:
Shut up and swing.
By the way, Michelle says her favorite movie–no kidding–is Dumb and Dumber.
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You’ll have to forgive and feel sorry for Miss Wie. It appears she never even had a chance in this life. She’s already been sucked into the void of the “dark side” where knowledge and truth cannot penetrate.
I’m going to cut her some slack here Michelle. This girl is a kid (15?), I thought Bill & Teds Excellent Adventure was comic genius at that age.
Isn’t there an article we’ve seen around lately debunking the whole ‘Global Warming’ debacle? Something about the fact that scientist now believe that the sun is just hotter than now than it has been? Would be nice to get that little Goreaction around the blogosphere.
She’s a child.
Only 14.
Or thereabouts.
As I recall.
Besides, having and voicing an uninformed opinion is not some sort of character flaw. Neither is poor taste in films.
Yep. I was a liberal until 1991 when I heard an opposing view and had a core belief change after visiting the library 3 times a week for a full year.
I suspect this may not be as dramatic as some people’s core belief change but it’ll happen to Miss Wie also.
Unfortunately, the press will quote her or play her speaking as if she were one if the annointed.
“Maybe we could use the Space Shuttle to take up a big patch for the hole….”
Oye - if my kid ever approaches this level of DUH!!, I’m going to have a heart attack.
“Modern comedies aren’t as good as the ones they used to make. I’m old school. I love “Dumb & Dumber.”
I guess a movie that premiered when she was 4 would be considered old school to her.
Oh, and I’ve read some blogs that were just as insightful as this article so lets not beat up on the kid too much.
I agree with Baklava (mmmm….hungry). I don’t fault poor Miss Wie for having these goofy opinions. Hell, half my friends have the same silly opinions and they’re college educated.
I fault the media for giving her and every other celeb with a liberal opinion an air of credibility.
The danger of global warming increases exponentially every time Al Gore opens his mouth. Want to improve air quality? Put a pollution control device over the pie-hole of all leftist pols.
I wonder what Michelle Wie takes away literally from Dumb and Dumber. Scar-E.
Like Andrew Sullivan, I should start a pledge drive on my site to raise money to send me off to Hollywood.
It would be a great plan, a young and famous female who’s not a leftist idiot.
Hard to find these days.
nochizmo: I think this might be the artical you want.
The truth about global warming - it’s the Sun that’s to blame
By Michael Leidig and Roya Nikkhah
It is a very long URL but you can go here http://www.telegraph.co.uk and do a search of “global warming” and find it.
Someone needs to tell her that new research has shown us that global warming is due to the sun shining brighter. Please see post for more info.
Global Warming is due to the Sun Shining Brighter
Someone needs to tell her that new research has shown us that global warming is due to the sun shining brighter. Please see post for more info.
http://www.livejournal.com/users/dark2_knight/19099.html
I think we should be more concerned with the fact that she is citing a fictional movie to address a scientific question. That is scary, I don’t care how old you are, you should know that stuff from Hollywood isn’t a learning tool.
Mike, I think she just identified herself as a “sheeple”- muahahahhaa
*Yawn* Can I pass back the kid’s “Tell me about yourself” essay for homeroom and get back to articles on…I dunno…golf?
I agree with Marshall, if I may, that the media plays a role in this by (1) perpetuating the belief that everyone accepts that global warming is a fact and (2) by giving celebrities the opportunity to reinforce that impression by simply regurgitate what they’ve heard someone else say.
I would like to go one step farther and suggest that the public education system deserves some blame as well. How many kids today are being taught left-wing enviro dogma as science? How many kids are being being indoctrinated by the NEA and AFT instead of being taught to question and think critically?
Hopefully once Miss Wie starts to earn money she will have a Venus Williams moment and wonder why her taxes are so high and why she can’t keep more of her own money. Then perhaps the blinders will fall.
NOW WHAT MICHELLE MALKIN? AFTER THE MEXICANS AND THE FILIPINOS, UR SETTING UR EYES NOW ON THIS LITTLE GIRL(actually she’s six ft tall)???BECOZ SHE’S CHINESE OF ORIGIN?? HEHEHE WHAT KIND OF CREDIBILITY THAT YOU HAVE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?? HEHEHEHE
>I think we should be more concerned with the fact that she is citing a fictional movie to address a scientific question. That is scary, I don’t care how old you are, you should know that stuff from Hollywood isn’t a learning tool.
I read an article about her the other day that she said she is one of the top students in her school. :-<
This is great. I would love to hear from some high school teachers. I’m sure they would agree that most “kids” will get their information or “opinions” from televison or movies. Its ok not to know or have an opinon on an issue, so long as you dont pretend to.
Global Warming is real? Well duh. The Day After Tomorrow as a warning for things to come? . We have had major ice ages and warming trends over the millennia and the simple fact that we are not now covered in ice is proof that global climate change occurs. The question is “what is the cause?” The models used to predict the change based upon human influence are terribly flawed. Use of those flawed models to predict future trends and base (costly) policy upon them is scandalous. All those who want to chant (so and so) lied (economies) died out to be going after the pseudo scientists promoting anti-capitalism using scare tactics to sway armies of useful idiots to toss aside economic growth in spite of all the evidence that economic growth and private property rights (fundamental to capitalism) capitalism lead to a cleaner environment.
(I hope the links work)
Speaking of global warming, up here in NY, we are having one of the coolest summers I can recall, and I am 35. And we got a lot of snow this past winter (actually Al Gore was here in NYC speaking about global warming on a day when we got one our heaviest snow falls ever).
My question for global warming advocates. If the Earth’s climate started to become colder, with a result that growing seasons become shortened and the possibility of world wide famine, should we release more CO2 into the atmosphere to stave off the cooling? After all, if human emissions should be curbed if they are harmful, should they be encouraged if they can be beneficial?
Dammit!
Okay here are the links
Day After tomorrow junk science
http://usatoday.printthis.clickability.com/pt/cpt?action=cpt&title=USATODAY.com+-+%27Day+After+Tomorrow%27%3A+A+lot+of+hot+air&expire=&urlID=10526977&fb=Y&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.usatoday.com%2Fnews%2Fopinion%2Feditorials%2F2004-05-24-michaels_x.htm&partnerID=1660
Flawed Climate change models:
http://www.greeningearthsociety.org/wca/2004/wca_21b.html
Army of useful idiots: http://www.envirotruth.org/ecoterrorism.cfm
Economic Growth and environmental improvement: http://mitpress.mit.edu/catalog/item/default.asp?sid=6C61BD61-4F0E-42FB-A9DF-1498296F9E81&ttype=6&tid=3263
Economic Growth and private property rights:
http://www.freetheworld.com/papers/Seth_Norton.pdf
Time for some remedial science.
Global warming and holes in the ozone layer are not even related problems.
The man-made portion (if there is any) of global warming is attributed to the greenhouse effect. Specifically it is caused by heat being trapped in the atmosphere as a result of a build-up of greenhouse gases like CO2 and H2O (water vapor).
The hole in the ozone layer is caused by the ozone eating effect of hydrofloricarbons (sp?). These are released from hairspray propellants and old improperly retired refrigerators.
Regards,
Jack
I was one of the top students at my school, and at that age I believed in ESP and ghosts. I’d give her a break.
I’ve worked with a lot of “smart” teens, and many of the stupid things they believe are of great amusement to adults who have to listen to it. A lot of it is a lack of experience with the real world, and don’t worry… the real world catches up with each of us sooner or later, even if it takes until we’re old codgers.
Isn’t she a child?
Oh, sorry, I forgot… We’re all supposed to be “Compassionate Conservatives.”
Ripping a child to shreds in public is just another of the many things we do so well.
Michelle: When can the media begin to have access to your children?
I think celebrities should stick to what they know and leave politics to people who know what they are doing.
I mean except for Ronald Reagan and Arnold Swartzeneggar. At least they are REAL politicians, and give politics a GOOD name.
“Avenger”
Perhaps when her children are teen-age professional athletes voluntarily sharing their thoughts with national magazines.
The telling bit of info in my opinion is how this demonstrates the spread of false information. The point is that Gore and the other eco-fanatics knew that their “this really couldn’t happen (under their breath), BUT ISN’T IT SCARY!” tactic did take root. Fifteen year olds, and others of similar intellectual capacity, logged that movie and global warming together in their little mental database.
And sometime in the future, when some whacko is pushing for some horribly stupid eco-friendly bill with little or know scientific fact to support them, people like Ms. Wie are more likely to back them, because they decided a long time ago the way they think things are and are not going to reevaluate the evidence. They don’t rethink their position because it is logged in their memory so it must be true. Why would they believe that unless they had “heard it somewhere.”
It is exactly why Michael Moore was so upset about getting an “R” rating on his movie and ranting about how “kids should see this movie.” Because the young are very impressionable and more likely to buy into it.
Well, the radical right seems to have a thing lately about going after children. Witness the special “kiddie camp” they set up at Abu Ghraib, or the International Red Cross finding that at least 107 children have been held without charge in American-administered detention centers. A June 2004 UNICEF report also confirms that American soldiers routinely arrested and detained children.
Stefan
There are all sorts of extremely valid, viable and even humane reasons to detain children in a combat/dangerous area. Since you don’t mention anything other than a statistic that some children were detained, I will have to go on my belief that 99% of our fighting men and women are honorable, brave, sons, daughters, mothers and fathers and so any children detained by our troops were detained legitimately.
Knowing how people like to play with statistics I can also deduce that many of these “children” were 17 year olds with guns or bombs strapped to their chests, but that messes up a good story, when simply leaving that out can conjure up images of US soldiers kidnapping 4 year old muslim girls from their homes for “service” in their “love shack”.
Michelle Wie’s favorite movie is “Dumb and Dumber”? So she’s a Cheney and Bush fan, I suppose….
Christ — run with it. Attempting to rationalize putting kids in hellholes like Abu Ghraib is sure to win over a lot of those moderate voters. You should even develop it as a campaign slogan: “Bush/Cheney: Tough Enough to Torture Tots!”
May 10 2004 report from MSNBC about pictures and videos from Abu Ghraib that haven’t yet been released but that have been seen by U.S. Senators: “U.S. MILITARY OFFICIALS [emphasis mine] tell NBC News the unreleased images show American soldiers…apparently, raping one female Iraqi prisoner….and Iraqi guards apparently videotaped by U.S. soldiers raping young boys.” After seeing the tape REPUBLICAN [emphasis mine] Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina said “We’re talking about rape and murder here, we’re not just talking about giving people a humiliating experience, we’re talking about rape and murder and some very serious charges.”
But I’m sure there are extremely valid, viable and even humane reasons to videotape young boys being raped.
Stefan,
provide some evidence that they were in a hell hole. Abu Graib was not a tiny facility. Some of the holes might have been quite nice.
Provide some evidence they were mistreated.
Provide some evidence that any “tots” were “tortured” as you put it without any basis in fact whatsoever which is very typical.
Provide some evidence they were not held because they were combatants.
Provide some evidence they were not held because their parents were insurgents and the children had to be handed over to other authorities.
Provide some evidence that NEVER in ANY past action, like Vietnam, were children used as combatants and booby traps.
Provide something to back up your statistics or you are just another liberal playing loosely with the facts, using incomplete or bogus information to propogate a false premise because it suits your purposes.
Unlike you, I am not so irrational in my thought that I would say that there are no valid reasons for the detaining of children in a hot area. I need more information than the red cross saying, “yes there were children there.” So what? There are a hell of a lot more “children” than that being incarcerated in this country right now.
It’s doesn’t take a great genius, or someone over the age of eight, to point and shoot a gun or detonate a bomb. Or play golf, for that matter. The issue with detaining children is about the dangers they pose to others, regardless of what sort of BS they’ve been fed.
In the same matter, children like this little ivy scholar here are dangerous for reasons already stated–that she’s forming an opinion based on fiction, not fact, and someday when she’s of voting age, she’s going to base her vote on the decision she’s already made. This is the reason such scare tactics with the left are dangerous, and they know how to utilize it to push their preset agenda, which seems to focus now on shoving the Republicans out of power by any means possible rather than on protecting the citizens of this country.
Stefan,
you seem to like generalities with out specifics…how old are these children? why were they arrested and detained? how long were they detained? What exactly are the conditions at this “special kiddie” camp? you site a June 2004 UNICEF report…give us details.
LA
back to bs attacks again? Have Michelle’s children given interviews? (I doubt it considering they are very young). Anyone who CHOOSES to speak on topics such as global warming needs to be armed with facts not just that “Cardboard” Al Gore talks about it alot.
Yeah, I’m sure they had 4-year-olds in Abu Ghraib. Considering the media were =so= circumspect about showing us what happened to adult men there, I guess they decided that going on about Americans torturing kiddies was beyond the pale, and they’d better shut up lest they got shut down by the government. Ah, yes, I remember when the NYTimes was taken over by Bush’s Gestapo…
In any case, considering that 17-year-olds are eligible for capital punishment in some states in the US for plain old murder, I doubt there are many Americans who have that much sympathy for teenagers trying to kill American soldiers. Unless they think killing American soldiers is a good thing, that is. In which case, I don’t care what such people think.
Justin - you rock. Thanks for the links
BC - you too, thanks.
Jack Fender - I thought this whole topic was about remedial science. Like the viablity of Greenhouse effect caused by man to plummet the entire earth into disaster. Therefore:
People + SUV’s = One big Hockey rink.
yeah, I saw the May 10th report that “apparently” showed this and “apparently” showed that. Haven’t heard much else about it yet though. Might be that some of our soldiers that broke the law did these things as well. Might not. But only an ignorant fool would assume that such treatment was the norm for all prisoners by all guards, or that “going after kids” is part of our plans. You are just over the top, man. Never let the truth stand in the way of a godd story.
Eh. I’m against you here.
The girl is only 14 yrs old. She doesn’t know any better. Give her a pass.
You haven’t heard much about it yet because the Pentagon and Republican leadership are sitting on it and are hoping full details won’t come out until after the election. It’s a very effective tactic, to first suppress the evidence and then complain when your critics can’t produce the evidence that you yourself have suppressed.
And who said it was the norm for “all prisoners” by “all guards”? It was done by some guards to some children, but to my mind that’s pretty evil in and of itself. What is even more evil is the suppression of the truth about this monstrous abuse of children.
Stefan -
It’s been a bipartisan legislative decision not to compel the release of the rest of the info, last time I checked. Sorry if that dilutes your narrative of holding Donald Rumsfeld accountable for what you freely admit may have been done by “some guards to some children,” but there it is.
Seriously, do you ever step back for a second and analyze what’s motivating your stridence on issues? That your strong dislike of Bush, etc., is causing you to very selectively cherrypick the broadest liberal talking points to fulfill your worldview?
We all do it, but your vehemence and willingness to propagate largely unsubstantiated rumor (while constantly moving the goalposts) renders your argument irrelevant.
You’re not convincing anyone of anything here, so come back with some specific, attributable charges, and then we’ll chat.
Stefan,
The suppression of evidence about the monstrous abuse of children is disgustingly wrong in every way, shape and form. But this wasn’t suppressed, it was shown to the Senators. BiPartisan Senators. Who spoke about it to MSNBC. The alleged rape of a female detainee was in the original report from last fall (before the story broke). So the news is out there. Many people on both sides of the isle have seen it. Yet they are ALL doing Bush a favor by waiting till after the election? C’mon!
But you did not start off talking about any specific incidents or allegations. You said the “radical right has a thing lately for going after children”. A gross lumping of many people together under a plan to attack children. There is no basis for that and it costs you credibility.
The fact is, no matter how you cut it, these crimes that were committed against prisoners were committed by individuals and the left is having to work really hard to make it blanket everybody on the right and not just the individuals that perpetrated the crimes themselves.
I read the whole Taguba Report as it was published on the web. As I said, the evidence was being gathered last year, before the stories even broke.
It still falls short of the Democrats wet dream…to find out that Rumsfeld stood in a strategy meeting and said “And finally, remind all of our troops to rape any young girls they come across, you know, just to let them know whose in charge. And make some pyramids out of them too, that will be funny. I will bring my camera. Oh, and can somebody please anally rape some young boys too? I think this will be a very successful operation once multiple juvenile rapes are going on, so let’s get to it!”
The Global Warming Implosion
http://loonaticleft.typepad.com/loonatic_left/2004/07/the_global_warm.html
This is recent news. Can’t fault the teenager for not knowing it. Michelle, what about you?
The news that global warming might be caused by the sun’s increase in temperature is new. The idea that global warming was not the threat it was made out to be is not new. Among the science community it was always a matter of debate. Not that extreme warming would be disruptive on an enormous scale, that was never in doubt. But rather, is the warming trend we were documenting ever going to reach those extremes we fear? It is still in doubt. I have heard scientific evidence that a new mini-iceage is more likely in our future.
And Everyone realizes she is just a young girl. But the young form ideas that carry into adulthood. I think it is scary that Al Gore + Science Fiction movie = young lady’s opinion on the topic. Because it was not just 15 year old teenage girls that bought that crap.
OMIGAWD!!!! That is, like, so KEWL!!!!
Well, this is what happens when you don’t allow children to be children. As Jimmy Carter ought to have realized when he admitted that he consulted Amy on nuclear proliferation issues (actually, that simply confirmed that there were very few adults running things in his administration).
So a fifteen year old expresses immature, ignorant opinions? That’s not news - what’s shameful is the media runs with what she does say. But even if she were an adult, what possible relevance can her statements, as a golfer, have on climatology? She’s just another celebrity, to be breathlessly fawned over. Eventually she will be a mature adult and, if she hasn’t been spoiled completely by media whores, feel a twinge embarrasment at the silly things she said.
Heck, I feel bad about some of the silly things I said when I was that age. Fortunately, there was no reason for the media to carve them in stone so I may pretend that I am mush smarter now.
Michelle forgot to mention that Michelle Wie learned the alphabet at age 1, and was reading by 2. Besides being a top athlete, she’s pretty darn bright.
Ten years from now I hope that some person doesn’t make fun of Michelle Malkin’s daughter in a public forum the way Michelle has made fun of this 14 year-old.
It’s very sad and very ironic that Michelle, who is “concerned” about America’s young women, is slamming this girl in this manner.
No one is slamming her. Any more than the left slammed lindsay lohan for saying “that’s retarded!”.
She is not being slammed. And the majority of this discussion has been about how she came to her conclusions and how unfortunate it is that activists and science fiction can so easily be believed. Not denegrating a teen-age girl.
Why on earth would anyone ask a 14-year old girl to describe her perfect date?
Man, that’s twisted.
Stefan,
BTW, the rape pics were first printed in the Guardian and a newspaper in Boston.
Based on what I read over the weekend, both were faked. One was by a group called Iraqi Babes that has been removed. Other one was by a group called Sex in War. Both are commercial enterprises.
Don’t let the truth get in the way of a good story though…
This thread reminds me of a comment I once heard but can’t remember who to attribute it to:
“Anyone under the age of 18 who isn’t a liberal doesn’t have a heart, anyone over the age of 18 who is a liberal doesn’t have a brain”
Between golfing and going to movies, do you really expect her to have the time to read something on the subject. I wonder if she knows who Al Gore is, besides the world’s expert on all subjects?
Come on now, we all know it was a slam on this kid. If it truly were “about how she came to her conclusions and how unfortunate it is that activists and science fiction can so easily be believed. Not denegrating a teen-age girl,” then why the little personal jabs? SNL references, “vacuous eco-musings,” favorite movie jab - all slams. It’s got nothing to do with left or right. I don’t understand what Malkin’s point was to rip on this 14 year old girl.
I wonder what Malkin’s favorite comedy or movie was when she was 14. Not that she (or someone on her behalf) would post, because it would open her up to the same type of ridicule that she opened for Wie.
I really hope someone doesn’t do the same to her daughter when she’s 14.
This “pretty darn bright” girl is forming her beliefs and critical thinking skills with which she will be analyzing the rhetoric from prospective politicians and special interest groups in order to vote and demand policy in 4 short years.
She has accepted the pseudo-science of the socialist greens, and is probably well on the path to accepting and demanding the feel good “I care about the earth” policies that are in fact economically and ecologically destructive.
Is she being slammed? A bit, open mouth insert foot applies to adult and child celebrities.
The larger point is that pseudo-science based policies are terribly costly in terms of income and personal freedom. And people are being indoctrinated to accept them at an early age. And all for what? The logical conclusion of accepting these policies is pseudo-science based totalitarianism.
If she wants to make a meaningful positive difference she ought to take a minute or two and apply that brain power on discovering what works rather than what feels good. She could use some of that time she spends flying from one golf tournament to another to read up on it.
Here, 10 projects were ranked based upon costs and projected benefits, from very good to bad projects. The bad projects? (bad to worst) Guest worker programs, Optimal carbon tax, Kyoto protocol, and value-at-risk carbon tax.
http://www.copenhagenconsensus.com/Default.asp?ID=158
Or maybe she wants to get involved in promoting institutional reforms that would allow 3rd world countries to enter the 20th century, (she can work on getting them into the 21st when they get closer).
http://www.ild.org.pe/index.html
Tell you what Justin, how about you, “Chris,” and Malkin join forces, get off your high horses, and actually do something that makes a meaningful difference in the world, instead of just bitching about other people. And let Michelle Wie be a kid and enjoy her promising professional golf career.
I think it says more about the education establishment than anything (or hers, anyhow - what she homeschooled?).
Hopefully, maturity will take care of any deficiencies.
Nathan Moore
http://www.moorethoughts.com
I believe she attends the Punaho school, an exclusive private school in Hawaii. Her father is also a college professor at the University of Hawaii. I’m sure he’ll have something to say to his daughter about global warming. But the point is for HIM to say something to her; it’s not Malkin’s place to slam her in a public forum. Yes, I said slammed.
Oh great, now I can hear “Justin” and “Chris” feverishly typing away on their keyboards about how every kid should be homeschooled, or wait, maybe we should just teach Malkin’s views in public schools. Yeah. Right.
I’ve taken my aspirin, so I am not typing feverishly.
Every child should be taught to meet a nationally mandated standard? That may be the current republican model, but not mine. Education choices should be made as close as possible to the person gaining the benefit of the education. Which means educational choices should be made by the parents not some national standards board. Local school boards held accountable to local school distict patrons with the threat of moving to another school and making the funding decisions.
Home schooling? Haven’t the time. I’m to busy trying to make a difference in my little part of the world.
Here is the UNICEF so-called “report” that people are basing their points on:-
“UNICEF Statement on Iraq
GENEVA / NEW YORK, 11 May 2004 – UNICEF is profoundly disturbed by news reports alleging that children may have been among those abused in detention centres and prisons in Iraq. Although the news reports have not been independently substantiated, they are alarming nonetheless.”
It isn’t a report, it is a comment on unsubstantiated reports. Being against the act isn’t wrong - but taking it as proof of US abuses is stretching it too far.
Well ya gotta admit that Al Gore talking about it all the time is a huge problem.
YEAH!!!! When do we get the chance to disect the “abilities” of Michelle Malkin’s children! So what’s your childrens opinion about global warming Ms Malkin???? Why dont you share it with us.
I wonder if bonifacio could work on his English.
On a slightly different subject (why? why not?) I found this comment from the Golf Digest interview interesting: “You mean the PGA Tour media guide lists a player’s weight and the LPGA Tour media guide doesn’t? That’s awesome. I think I’m overweight.” She’s a 6′ tall, 14 year old girl and she thinks she’s overweight?!?!?!?!? I saw her on tv a couple of times, and if the camera adds 10 pounds she has a long way to go before she is overweight. Anyone wish to comment on why she thinks she might be?
Okay, where did this go so terribly wrong? Michelle Wie was a prisoner in Abu Ghraib? Or a child was imprisoned there for making a dumb statement? Must be packed with kids. Give her a break for now, although I have little hope for her.
Someone needs to inform Michelle Wie that global warming comes from making movies like Dumb and Dumber.
Hey MARTIN! Why dont you work on ur comprehension first before you droll over my spelling. You want me to “dissect” it for you??? hehehehe