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		<title>By: U Tube</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2004/07/28/answering-michael-moore/comment-page-2/#comment-5011</link>
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		<title>By: wvobiwan</title>
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		<dc:creator>wvobiwan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2004 22:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, nice post Chris.  Hit it right on the head.  People like Surge can&#039;t remember historical context, that in the 1970s/80s we were helping an indigenous people (who only happened to be muslim) resist communist invasion.  Completely in America&#039;s self interest.  Also, the outrage about Saddam&#039;s crimes was very vocally expressed in conservative media and press, long before the first gulf war, and especially after it.  Seems like Clinton was in charge after the 1st war, wonder why he didn&#039;t do anything about it?

Have more blogs about Michael Moore-on on my site, SanityAnyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, nice post Chris.  Hit it right on the head.  People like Surge can&#8217;t remember historical context, that in the 1970s/80s we were helping an indigenous people (who only happened to be muslim) resist communist invasion.  Completely in America&#8217;s self interest.  Also, the outrage about Saddam&#8217;s crimes was very vocally expressed in conservative media and press, long before the first gulf war, and especially after it.  Seems like Clinton was in charge after the 1st war, wonder why he didn&#8217;t do anything about it?</p>
<p>Have more blogs about Michael Moore-on on my site, SanityAnyone?</p>
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		<title>By: viewfromthecenter</title>
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		<dc:creator>viewfromthecenter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2004 22:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, the best answer would have been to point out the fallacious nature of the question... no parent sacrafices their child.  We aren&#039;t sending them up as a human sacrafice, we are sending them with the best training and equipment that taxpayer money can buy.  We hope none of them are called on to sacrafice their lives, we hope that none die each day, but if they do... it is their sacrafice not that of their parent, despite the tremendous level of grief a parent would feel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, the best answer would have been to point out the fallacious nature of the question&#8230; no parent sacrafices their child.  We aren&#8217;t sending them up as a human sacrafice, we are sending them with the best training and equipment that taxpayer money can buy.  We hope none of them are called on to sacrafice their lives, we hope that none die each day, but if they do&#8230; it is their sacrafice not that of their parent, despite the tremendous level of grief a parent would feel.</p>
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		<title>By: Martha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2004 22:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And isn&#039;t it funny how those who want to give America back to the people are not really in touch with the common man?  I bet you those who are preaching their &quot;share the wealth&quot; platform aren&#039;t willing to share their millions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And isn&#8217;t it funny how those who want to give America back to the people are not really in touch with the common man?  I bet you those who are preaching their &#8220;share the wealth&#8221; platform aren&#8217;t willing to share their millions.</p>
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		<title>By: Martha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2004 20:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I grew up in a &quot;devastated rural&quot; community.  After high school I chose to go to college, and after obtaining my bachelor&#039;s degree I chose to enlist in the Air Force.  I knew before I even called the recruiter (yes, I called him, not the other way around) that I could be sent to war anytime anywhere by a commander in chief that I loathed (Bill Clinton) and could lose my life in the process.  I&#039;m proud I did it, I&#039;m proud of those who did it before me, I&#039;m proud of those I served with, and I&#039;m proud of those doing it now.  Would I send my children?  They are 8 and 6, so it&#039;s not even a valid question.  I too have had family members in every war since the American Revolution, and I&#039;m very very proud of that heritage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I grew up in a &#8220;devastated rural&#8221; community.  After high school I chose to go to college, and after obtaining my bachelor&#8217;s degree I chose to enlist in the Air Force.  I knew before I even called the recruiter (yes, I called him, not the other way around) that I could be sent to war anytime anywhere by a commander in chief that I loathed (Bill Clinton) and could lose my life in the process.  I&#8217;m proud I did it, I&#8217;m proud of those who did it before me, I&#8217;m proud of those I served with, and I&#8217;m proud of those doing it now.  Would I send my children?  They are 8 and 6, so it&#8217;s not even a valid question.  I too have had family members in every war since the American Revolution, and I&#8217;m very very proud of that heritage.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Rosen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Rosen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2004 19:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surge: A guy living in a gated, exclusive upper-class community in Crawford, Texas has more CHOICES than a young man who comes from a devastated rural or urban community where one of the few avenues for upward social mobility is joining the military.


Me: Never been to Crawford, eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surge: A guy living in a gated, exclusive upper-class community in Crawford, Texas has more CHOICES than a young man who comes from a devastated rural or urban community where one of the few avenues for upward social mobility is joining the military.</p>
<p>Me: Never been to Crawford, eh?</p>
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		<title>By: Surge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Surge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2004 17:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;So what? We used him when it suited us and eliminated him when he was more of a threat than an asset. That&#039;s hardly a shocking accusation.&quot;

The documents not only show that we used him, but that we AIDED him with financial and military support, which he not only used against the Iranians, but against his own people.

Where was conservative &quot;outrage&quot; then against Saddam&#039;s atrocities against his own people?  Human&#039;s rights groups were screaming about these atrocities for DECADES!

Oh, I get it.  It&#039;s irrelevant when our enemy&#039;s enemy is our friend.

This is what&#039;s shocking to me: conservative&#039;s selective morality.

You folks never cease to amaze me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So what? We used him when it suited us and eliminated him when he was more of a threat than an asset. That&#8217;s hardly a shocking accusation.&#8221;</p>
<p>The documents not only show that we used him, but that we AIDED him with financial and military support, which he not only used against the Iranians, but against his own people.</p>
<p>Where was conservative &#8220;outrage&#8221; then against Saddam&#8217;s atrocities against his own people?  Human&#8217;s rights groups were screaming about these atrocities for DECADES!</p>
<p>Oh, I get it.  It&#8217;s irrelevant when our enemy&#8217;s enemy is our friend.</p>
<p>This is what&#8217;s shocking to me: conservative&#8217;s selective morality.</p>
<p>You folks never cease to amaze me.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2004/07/28/answering-michael-moore/comment-page-2/#comment-4999</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2004 17:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Surge, just read your link...that was a bunch of information that was already known and much discussed.

So, shortly after the Iranians exiling of the Shaw and holding our people hostage for all those months, we supported their enemies.  Amazing.  The enemy of my enemy is my friend.  It is old news.

The documents you referred to do, however, seem to establish beyond all doubt that Saddam had WMD&#039;s, used WMD&#039;s and was working to increase his arsenal of WMD&#039;s.

Then, through the 90&#039;s, he defied UN directives and hindered the UN INspectors every step of the way.  

Oh, and their is still the matter of the gross human rights atrocities engaged in by Saddam&#039;s oppressive regime for all those years.

So, you have helped establish that he had WMD&#039;s, used WMD&#039;s and wanted more WMD&#039;s.  He violated the sovereignty of neighboring nations at least twice.  He paid Palestinians to bomb our allies in Israel.  He kidnapped, tortured, raped and murdered many Iraqis.  He rebuilt his military through illegal oil deals with France, Russia and Germany.

Your rebuttal...we helped him 20 years ago when he was fighting another one of our enemies.

So what?  We used him when it suited us and eliminated him when he was more of a threat than an asset.  That&#039;s hardly a shocking accusation.

It also does nothing to say that this preemptive strike wasn&#039;t warranted by world&#039;s intelligence available at the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Surge, just read your link&#8230;that was a bunch of information that was already known and much discussed.</p>
<p>So, shortly after the Iranians exiling of the Shaw and holding our people hostage for all those months, we supported their enemies.  Amazing.  The enemy of my enemy is my friend.  It is old news.</p>
<p>The documents you referred to do, however, seem to establish beyond all doubt that Saddam had WMD&#8217;s, used WMD&#8217;s and was working to increase his arsenal of WMD&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Then, through the 90&#8217;s, he defied UN directives and hindered the UN INspectors every step of the way.  </p>
<p>Oh, and their is still the matter of the gross human rights atrocities engaged in by Saddam&#8217;s oppressive regime for all those years.</p>
<p>So, you have helped establish that he had WMD&#8217;s, used WMD&#8217;s and wanted more WMD&#8217;s.  He violated the sovereignty of neighboring nations at least twice.  He paid Palestinians to bomb our allies in Israel.  He kidnapped, tortured, raped and murdered many Iraqis.  He rebuilt his military through illegal oil deals with France, Russia and Germany.</p>
<p>Your rebuttal&#8230;we helped him 20 years ago when he was fighting another one of our enemies.</p>
<p>So what?  We used him when it suited us and eliminated him when he was more of a threat than an asset.  That&#8217;s hardly a shocking accusation.</p>
<p>It also does nothing to say that this preemptive strike wasn&#8217;t warranted by world&#8217;s intelligence available at the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Surge</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2004/07/28/answering-michael-moore/comment-page-2/#comment-4998</link>
		<dc:creator>Surge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2004 16:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I think the WSJ and Christopher Hitchens pretty much destroy Moore&#039;s intergrity. So, Surge, after you finish your reading assignments, which everyone else is welcomed to read too, we will be waiting for your astute comments.&quot; onecent

My, my, my...how EASY it is for so many of you to quote the &quot;EVIL LIBERAL MEDIA&quot; like the Washington Post when it serves your purpose, but when it point out indiscrepancies in your beloved president&#039;s policies, you attack it and call it &quot;inaccurate&quot; .

And these articles do not give concrete evidence of anything, onecent.

In his article in Townhall, even Jacoby concedes: &quot;To be sure, none of this proves that Saddam&#039;s agents sought uranium for use in nuclear weapons.&quot;

The Washington Post EDITORIAL also concedes: &quot;What is to be learned from these findings? Not necessarily that Mr. Bush and his top aides are innocent of distorting the facts on Iraq. As we have said, we believe the record shows that they sometimes exaggerated intelligence reports that were themselves flawed. A case against Saddam Hussein could have been made without such hyperbole; by indulging in it, the Bush administration damaged its credibility and undermined support for the Iraq mission.&quot;

When I opened up the article at Townhall.com, a screen popped up saying &quot;Opinion zone&quot; and asking me to subscribe.

Opinions are like a-holes, y&#039;know.

So now I have a reading assignment for YOU, and fully expect you to meet your end of this deal like I met mine.

Here are FACTS.  Listen...and learn.

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I think the WSJ and Christopher Hitchens pretty much destroy Moore&#8217;s intergrity. So, Surge, after you finish your reading assignments, which everyone else is welcomed to read too, we will be waiting for your astute comments.&#8221; onecent</p>
<p>My, my, my&#8230;how EASY it is for so many of you to quote the &#8220;EVIL LIBERAL MEDIA&#8221; like the Washington Post when it serves your purpose, but when it point out indiscrepancies in your beloved president&#8217;s policies, you attack it and call it &#8220;inaccurate&#8221; .</p>
<p>And these articles do not give concrete evidence of anything, onecent.</p>
<p>In his article in Townhall, even Jacoby concedes: &#8220;To be sure, none of this proves that Saddam&#8217;s agents sought uranium for use in nuclear weapons.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Washington Post EDITORIAL also concedes: &#8220;What is to be learned from these findings? Not necessarily that Mr. Bush and his top aides are innocent of distorting the facts on Iraq. As we have said, we believe the record shows that they sometimes exaggerated intelligence reports that were themselves flawed. A case against Saddam Hussein could have been made without such hyperbole; by indulging in it, the Bush administration damaged its credibility and undermined support for the Iraq mission.&#8221;</p>
<p>When I opened up the article at Townhall.com, a screen popped up saying &#8220;Opinion zone&#8221; and asking me to subscribe.</p>
<p>Opinions are like a-holes, y&#8217;know.</p>
<p>So now I have a reading assignment for YOU, and fully expect you to meet your end of this deal like I met mine.</p>
<p>Here are FACTS.  Listen&#8230;and learn.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/" rel="nofollow">http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/</a></p>
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		<title>By: nascarfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>nascarfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, but they were just trying to bide their time.  They knew that we would get Saddam eventually.  All those times when we PRETENDED to be friends with Saddam were just setting us up to kick his ass.  And now we got him and Iraq is a free, safe place to live.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, but they were just trying to bide their time.  They knew that we would get Saddam eventually.  All those times when we PRETENDED to be friends with Saddam were just setting us up to kick his ass.  And now we got him and Iraq is a free, safe place to live.</p>
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		<title>By: Surge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Surge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The Germans built Saddam a chemical weapons lab that produced mustard gas, VX gas and also some biological agents such as Anthrax.&quot;

You forgot one little detail...

The U.S. (under Ronald Reagan) provided Saddam with chemical agents and military support in the 80&#039;s.

The pics, video and documentation: http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Germans built Saddam a chemical weapons lab that produced mustard gas, VX gas and also some biological agents such as Anthrax.&#8221;</p>
<p>You forgot one little detail&#8230;</p>
<p>The U.S. (under Ronald Reagan) provided Saddam with chemical agents and military support in the 80&#8217;s.</p>
<p>The pics, video and documentation: <a href="http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/" rel="nofollow">http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Brian The Great</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian The Great</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2004 14:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Niels;

We have a free press here in America.

Moore is not engaged in &#039;self-criticism&#039; of America.  As anybody who knows basic facts can tell, Moore&#039;s films and books are chock-full of gross inaccuracies and distortions.  

Bush has been criticized ever since he took office by ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, FOX News, The New York Times, The Washington Post, the L.A. Times and on the internet as well.  

Some of the criticism is very accurate and justified.  The mainstream press here sometimes overdoes it because the overwhelming majority of newspeople are liberal and lean against Bush&#039;s viewpoints on many issues.  

I would also like to say that in it&#039;s brief 228 year history America has been directly instrumental in liberating about 800 million people or so.  

Why do you suppose that is when other countries that have the same amount of resources and manpower, such as Russia or China, don&#039;t have a record like that? 

By making a film full of wild conspiracy theories (such as the Bush Family is the pawn of the Saudi Dynasty - LOVE that one)Moore is not engaging in &#039;self-criticism&#039;.  He&#039;s engaging in propaganda.  

There are many websites on the internet where you can check the actual facts against Moore&#039;s wild claims, should you be inclined to do so.  

moorelies.com is a good one.  

Brian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Niels;</p>
<p>We have a free press here in America.</p>
<p>Moore is not engaged in &#8217;self-criticism&#8217; of America.  As anybody who knows basic facts can tell, Moore&#8217;s films and books are chock-full of gross inaccuracies and distortions.  </p>
<p>Bush has been criticized ever since he took office by ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, FOX News, The New York Times, The Washington Post, the L.A. Times and on the internet as well.  </p>
<p>Some of the criticism is very accurate and justified.  The mainstream press here sometimes overdoes it because the overwhelming majority of newspeople are liberal and lean against Bush&#8217;s viewpoints on many issues.  </p>
<p>I would also like to say that in it&#8217;s brief 228 year history America has been directly instrumental in liberating about 800 million people or so.  </p>
<p>Why do you suppose that is when other countries that have the same amount of resources and manpower, such as Russia or China, don&#8217;t have a record like that? </p>
<p>By making a film full of wild conspiracy theories (such as the Bush Family is the pawn of the Saudi Dynasty &#8211; LOVE that one)Moore is not engaging in &#8217;self-criticism&#8217;.  He&#8217;s engaging in propaganda.  </p>
<p>There are many websites on the internet where you can check the actual facts against Moore&#8217;s wild claims, should you be inclined to do so.  </p>
<p>moorelies.com is a good one.  </p>
<p>Brian</p>
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		<title>By: Marty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2004 13:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Niels, whatever miserable country you come from would probably no longer exist if it weren&#039;t for the USA. Buzz off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Niels, whatever miserable country you come from would probably no longer exist if it weren&#8217;t for the USA. Buzz off.</p>
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		<title>By: Niels</title>
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		<dc:creator>Niels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2004 11:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love Michael Moore for bringing the term &quot;self critisism&quot; to America. That is exactly what the Americans need. Why is it that you people think you are the greatest? The American attitude will only create more hate. Why is it that in every American movie the American flag is shown so many times? I know you&#039;ve got to be proud about being from wherever you are but you cross the line with not caring about others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love Michael Moore for bringing the term &#8220;self critisism&#8221; to America. That is exactly what the Americans need. Why is it that you people think you are the greatest? The American attitude will only create more hate. Why is it that in every American movie the American flag is shown so many times? I know you&#8217;ve got to be proud about being from wherever you are but you cross the line with not caring about others.</p>
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		<title>By: BC</title>
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		<dc:creator>BC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2004 09:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess this is how I would answer michael moore’s question.</p>
<p>Although your question is very stupid, I would have to answer no, I would not send my child to secure Fallujah, because I do not have to send them in. You see Mr. Moore, there are many many young adults in my country that still believe in my country the U.S.A. and who, unlike you, truly understand what it means to Honorable sacrifice something for the greater cause of our Nation. I hope and pray that I will never have to send my child or any child out on the battle field, but I do worry that someday my child may have to pick up arms at an early age to defend my country because of people like you and kerry.</p>
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