Teresa helped write the speech
From John Kerry’s convention speech: “What does it mean when twenty five percent of the children in Harlem have asthma because of air pollution?”
Answer: It means Kerry is peddling junk science at the behest of his meddling wife. As science journalist Mike Fumento has noted,
Since 1970, the total national emissions of the six principal pollutants the Environmental Protection Agency tracks have been cut 48 percent, even as energy consumption increased 42 percent and the population increased 38 percent.
[Particulate matter] emissions have only been tracked since 1993, but by 2002 had fallen 17 percent. In terms of air quality, they have only been measured since 1998 but by 2003 had dropped eight percent…even as dirty air levels plummeted, asthma incidence from 1980 to 1999 increased by 83 percent according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
The scare-mongering about asthma in Harlem comes straight from Teresa’s playbook. She recently gave environmental activist Peggy Shepard, who has made a name for herself hyping the asthma epidemic, the $250,000 Heinz Award for her “brave voice” and “courageous advocacy” against “environmental racism.”
A hint of Hillaryism to come? Yes, well, she has earned her right to be o-PIN-knee-o-nay-ted.
Update: Greg at Begging to Differ was listening closely and has audio evidence that Kerry was talking about hair pollution, not air pollution. Writes Greg: “Maybe John Edwards should lay off the Aqua Net.” Tee-hee!
Update II: More on the asthma/air pollution lie from Mike Fumento here. And for more on the real culprit that explains asthma increases, see the EPA website and National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences fact sheet, which reports:
Recent studies have found a strong association between the presence of cockroaches and increases in the severity of asthma symptoms in individuals who are sensitive to cockroach allergens.
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Has any commentator suggested that Terrresa’s much excused and rationalized “outspokenness” and “exoticness” is simply trashiness? She doesn’t strike me as a class act at all.
She’s a step or two above Tonya Harding–plus a billion dollars.
And there is something unseemly about the way she spends money earned by a Republican on leftist causes. She has more of a duty to Senator Heinz–a moral obligation, at least, not to work against his memory, if not honor it.
A classy woman wouldn’t do that. Hey, but she’s sexy, sassy, bleecch, whatever.
But the darling is Oh sooooo…”Continental.”
At least Kerry’s tie isn’t crooked. Anyone else notice Bill’s tie?
Heaven help this country if these yoyos con their way into office. Michelle keep up the good work.
Also noticed the comments about families buying armor for their sons in Iraq. Wasn’t this the bake sale rumor which turned out to be uncorroborated beyond one editorial? I had heard police departments were donating bullet proof vests to help soldiers armor their Humvees. Perhaps that is what he is refering to.
Oh, wait. I thought she wrote that one part about “reporting for duty.”
Regarding the comment about THK spending money earned by a Republican on Leftist causes, I also don’t like the son of a great Republican President trading on his father’s name in order to promote his leftist agenda.
OK, granted it’s demagoguery on the kids with asthma meme. If not pollutants, and I gotta figure NYC’s a little dirtier than a few other other cities, what is accounting for the increase in asthma cases in Harlem? Is it simply better intervention? Better access to clinics and such? Parents getting their kids to specialists for proper diagnosis? Could be these are the natural rates of asthma but are only now being fully understood because kids have better access to health care clinics, etc. Need some talking points on this one. I’m sure it has something to do with junk food. wink, wink. Remember, it’s all about the trial lawyers, stupid.
Kerry lost the election with his speech tonight. It was petty, vindictive, disrespectful of his opponent, socialistic and pretending to a defense strength that its listeners are disapproving of.
His petty and disrespectful attacks on GWB (irrational and unsystematic; dependent on religion as a substitute for reason; a liar who has diminished America’s standing abroad, etc.) is not a substitute for his total lack of war time policy. Waiting for terrorists to strike and inflict mass casualties with nuclear and biochemical weapons is NOT sound defense policy.
Absent a defense policy that keeps us safe, no domestic policy is assured.
Kerry must think we are fools.
I’ve gotta say that my favorite moment of the night was when the Senator confessed, bashfully, that he’d been born in the west wing of the hospital.
I wonder if anybody on the speechwriting team took a moment to realize that the *west* wing is also the *left* wing.
If the idea is to appeal to the moderates, I think he picked a rotten metaphor.
Tackiness? Or is she just a lush? She staggered, she wove, she could barely get her hands to clap, JK was hovering around to try to make sure she didn’t go tumbling off stage, the dazed, unfocused looks. Even in the film, she was whacked. The lady has an intoxication issue. But then, if you were married to JK…
It irked me when Kerry said, “We balanced the budget. We paid down the debt. We created 23 million new jobs.” I will give him a pass on the first two lines, even though I think Newt Gingrinch had more to do with balancing the budget and paying down the debt than John Kerry. But I cannot let the last one slide. Government did not create 23 million jobs. Jobs are created by corporations…or as John Kerry calls them, polluters.
What was with the tongue darting out like a lizard or snake tasting the air every 5 seconds? From what hanoi john has said we will have to WAIT until we are attacked again like on 9/11 or Pearl Harbor..no more preemption. And a return to Johnson’s Great Society social programs.
Kerry said, We believe in the family value expressed in one of the oldest Commandments: Honor thy father and thy mother.
Forgive me for asking but didn’t Moses bring them down all at the same time??
I wonder if Kerry threw his boy scout medals anywhere. I can’t believe a man who so disrespected his country and his “band of brothers” could even be considered for the commander in chief. Did you notice in the movie they showed before Kerry began his speech there was no mention of burning down villages or beheadings or rape? This guy is such a phony.
This was a failed attempt at triangulation on defense and terrorism issues. Every time you might think this was the GOP convention, a ridiculous phrase like “back door draft” brought down the house. Even worse, the speech was delivered by someone with a rich record that runs counter to most of the positions he took. Will he be taken to task for the contradictions? Doubtful.
Finally two questions.
1. Am I the only one who finds the salute at the outset creepy? It may have focused well, but good God.
2. Since when did “nuanced” become a synonym for “deceptive?”
A JFKerry(D) who claimed “We need a strong military” which he’s voted against for 20 years.
A JFKerry(D) who claimed “We need to lead strong alliances” when the only exceptions are the same Oil-mongering profiteers of France-Germany-China-Russia that are repeating their Iraqi-shame right now by blocking life-saving action in the Sudan.
JFKerry(D) actually claimed “Any attack will be met with a swift and certain response” in a defining moment promising he would do nothing until America was attacked again and based on his record that means nothing that didn’t meet with international approval including those partly responsible.
Amazing.
As I’ve said before, you have to give the man a little slack. He suffered those three horrible scratches in Nam, and probably would have gone the way of Max Cleland had there been any stray American ordinance lying around for him to play with.
If Kerry’s speech tonight didn’t cost him the election, then most Americans would qualify for the O.J. jury. I don’t even like the guy, but I felt sorry for him.
One final/thought question:
Why shouldn’t Teresa help write the speech? She funded the forum.
Hmmmm.
One good thing about Teresa’s involvement with the Convention. She’s out in center field and open for play. No way Kerry or the DNC can claim that she shouldn’t be a valid target. She’s made herself a target by her words, her actions and her agenda.
I think it’s time to start attacking her. Didn’t she mention in an interview that she disliked “stupid Americans”?
I seem to remember that.
Why is it that every time John gives Tah-rey-zah a big squeeze for the cameras, she looks like she would rather be bathing in the Tijuana River?
It’s almost a violent affair: John wraps one of those alien-like, hyper-extended arms around her and she kind of clanks into place like a Shaquille O’Neal free-throw. She inevitably then looks up at him as if to say, “Please, my dear, you’re crushing my Luckys,” to which he invariably responds by planting a big wet one, not on her lips, but smack-dab in the center of her face. It reminds me of the scene in European Vacation when the Griswolds are on the Pig-‘n-a-Poke game show and the host, in a manner reminiscent of Family Feud’s ever-lecherous Richard Dawson, grabs Clark’s wife Ellen, tips her backwards and kisses her tonsils. It’s unsettling.
Increased diagnosis of asthma *could* possibly be related to the increased MISdiagnosis of asthma. If your seasonal allergies (mold, ragweed, etc.) respond favorably to asthma treatment, you are diagnosed with asthma. Just like my son.
I suspect THK is conducting an experiment to see how much power can be generated by causing her first husband’s corpse to rotate at high RPM in its grave.
I hear Isaac Asimov is currently powering a small town in upstate New York on the insult of the recent Will Smith movie claiming to be derived from his work.
Let’s please not buy in too deeply to the meme of the “irascible opinionated” Heinz-Kerry.
Cast a cold eye on her look and her behavior in clip after clip and, if you know the signs, the alcholoic is quiet easy to discern.
Buster – you hit it. I can now think of the democrat party as one big OJ jury.
“It means Kerry is peddling junk science at the behest of his meddling wife. As science journalist Mike Fumento has noted,”
But michelle, your quote doesn’t tell me whether the 25% numnber kerry gave is wrong or right.
Go on the Swift Vets web site and read the actions of Kerry then and now. I’m seriously wondering if Kerry is running for president as a flashback incident from VietNam.
Mommy I’m frightened.
Does anyone else find the “Asthma in Harlem” line stunningly weird, disingenuous or even racist?
Much of the air pollution found in the Northeast comes from a) automobile emissions and b) energy generating stations in the Midwest. These are surely regional problems and not in any way specific to Harlem. Indeed, I cannot think of any manufacturing plants (or at least any smokestacks) located in Harlem (there are some across the river on the Jersey side but they are mostly south of Harlem and very few if any have noticeable emissions).
To the extent that air pollution affects asthma rates, it will affect Americans of all races. So why the focus on Harlem unless Kerry is simply feeding red meat to the race hustlers and environmental conspiracy wackos? (Talk about “Uniting the Nation” notwithstanding)
Oh, right, the Republicans must have invented an air pollution concentration and focusing ray that directs all of the regional pollution into Harlem. Surely, they came up with the idea “at six in the morning” when they were “trying to figure out which minority they are going to screw today” – quoting Michael Moore.
I noticed in his ‘movie’ that he glossed over his anti-war activity, more or less sanitizing it. I took away from it that he was very proud of his anti-war activities, but he failed to mention that he joined hanoi jane to called our brothers, husbands, uncles and cousins baby killers and rapist.
My cousin came back with a bigger wound than hanoi john’s 3 baby boo, boos. He still walks with a cane. He’s one of the most gentle men I know. He never killed a baby or raped a woman in Nam.
I noted some things missing, that he is a gun control nut, and is going to declare a moratorium on the federal death penalty with an EO. How’s he going to execute Osama if he declares a moratorium on the federal death penalty?
Need to ask folks how many fire stations have been closed in your area. None in Memphis TN. In fact a new one was opened this year and 2 others last year. And Memphis is cash strapped all the time.
The speech was OK (by Kerry standards) but his “record” doesn’t match his snake oil sales pitch.
CNN’s Jeff Greenfield was surprised by something that was almost missing in Kerry’s speech. “I really have never heard an acceptance speech where 20 years of a guy’s life in the U.S. Senate is kissed off in three sentences,” Greenfield said.
Michelle, you’re too good.
That is, I want to write just like you when I grow up!
While Im sure that John Kerry’s pollution claims are a crock, I think even Michael Fumento would not answer speculation about a Harlem asthma rate/pollution connection with national figures. That’s just common sense. It’s quite possible that there is a contamination or pollution problem in Harlem & its surroundings that would not show up in national rates of decresing particulate matter. The issue ahould be studied rationally, not used as campaign propaganda by Kerry (who would, no doubt, forget about the Harlem children once elected.)
The cockroach connection is worthy of study. Some slum dwellers live in dreadful investation conditions, with the roaches crawling into the ears of sleeping children. I imagine the health implications are vast.
Gail, Go to http://www.wintersoldier.com for the scoop on his Congressional Testamony back in 72. Yes I know that ‘That was then and this is now’ but hey, John Kerry is reporting for duty!
Note the following:
1) Kerry’s testamony before Congress was based upon the ‘Winter Soldier Investigation’ which was held in Detroit.
2) The ‘Winter Soldier Investigation’ was put on by Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW) – of which John Kerry was one of the leaders (along with Jane Fonda).
3) As a result of the testimony there was an Investigation. The results were startling:
A) VVAW told its members and the people who testified in Detroit *not* to cooperate in the investigation (i.e. to keep their mouths shut)
B) Some ‘Vets’ who testified were either never stationed in Vietnam, were never stationed close to where they said they were. None of the witnesses were willing to sign a deposition. “Executive secretary [of VVAW] Al Hubbard claimed to have been an Air Force captain wounded piloting a transport over Da Nang in 1966. Hubbard was actually a staff sergeant who was never assigned to Vietnam.”
C) Some of the people who were documented as testifying have said that they had never been to Detriot and/or have never testified. (i.e. some of the ‘witnesses’ were Imposters).
(You can draw your own conclusion…)
SEE: http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/index.php?topic=Keys for key points.
yeah,that “reporting for duty” with the goofy grin was painful. Lots of good laughs though. Fave line; “we will double our special forces to conduct terrorists operations”. As for the tongue thing,I noticed that the first time I saw him speak,makes him look nervous and guilty. I loved the speech,he could hardly have done worse!
“Posted by The Liberal Avenger at July 30, 2004 09:27 AM”
“Oooo, looky me—I cite my own website to prove that I’m right.” Get a life, a clue, a job and a haircut, hippie.
no lib,Tupac IS a cockroach,or is that WAS?
Environmental racism? oh geeze, that’s a new one.
LA. I said Kerry and Fonda were ‘Leaders’ of VVAW She was a source of funding and did speak (and do fundraising) for the VVAW. I never said Fonda was a veteran.
She might be a veteran of the North Vietmanese army or VC. After all she did go there durign the war and sit in a Anti-aircraft gun and visit the Hanio Hilton – (However investigation has shown that she did *not* pass prisioner’s notes to the guards during here visit there). But she was not in the american military.
Look before you blog.
Allergens are classified as a pollutant – an AIR pollutant.
http://www.epa.gov/iaq/biologic.html
Did anybody notice how quickly Al Sharpton was up on the stage behind Kerry at the end. How did he do that?
He was in almost every shot.
Liberal Avenger, I think you may be right — Hanoi Jane wasn’t in the leadership in VVAW – She was a spokesperson and fundraiser for them for a time. I read it wrong
. I hate it when that happens.
The rest of it still stands.
Oh, the environmental racism thing is a couple weeks old. I heard of some group that actually believes that UV rays are targeting black men and women, giving them a higher rate of skin cancer! The sun is racist!!!!
Oh, and does anyone else feel a bit unsettled that, for a 45 minute long speech, Kerry’s 30 years in Congress wasn’t mentioned ONCE?
Clif,
Michelle was referring to the fact that air pollutants and particlulates have decreased and during the same time period people with Athsma have increased.
Most logical people (not Clif or LA) can then make the logical deduction that there MUST be another reason for the increase in athsma.
Cockroaches COULD be one explanation. It also could be something else. But for John Kerry in his speech to claim that the increase in Athsma is due to (h)air polution, seems to me and Michelle that there is junk science going on (once again) by liberals.
Just like the thought about CFC’s causing the Ozone hole. Then we find out that Mount Pinatubo’s eruption put up more CFC’s in the air than the world has ever made and there was only a temporary reduction in the ozone of 6% that year. Every year the ozone hole (over Antartica) grows and shrinks to the tune of up to 40% (not of the earth but of it’s original size). It is impossible for the ozone layer to deplete because the sun’s rays (UVA and UVB to be exact) create ozone in that layer of the atmosphere. The more the ozone layer is depleted, the more those rays are able to penetrate and make more ozone. It’s mother nature taking care of itself and it is an inability for humans to destroy that process unless we destroy the sun.
But Liberal leaders will still create the alarmist rhetoric and the liberal rank and file will believe their rhetoric.
But the reason why this is a 53/47 nation now is that there is a way for people to hear the other side of the story now. And that makes liberals like LA crazy because he can’t stand it that Michelle would be out there talking to us. The crazier liberals get the more of a landslide the next few elections will be.
the Asthma issue is a red herring. I recall seeing stats showing that childhood asthma is up nationally. Also, the rate of asthma in the south is higher than in the northeast. There is also a lot of overdiagnosis.
Wasn’t it recently shown somewhere that Global Warming is happening, not so much do to greenhouse gasses but due to the Sun burning hotter/brighter?
I read that somewhere that some Scientists say the sun is burning hotter then it has for at least the past 1,000 years.
LA, I’ll answer your false premise of a question after I ask you… Why do you judge incorrectly so much? You seem to be clouded with hate. Do you hate the people you judge so incorrectly?
Now I don’t know why but I’ll entertain your false premise of a question (which came about because you judged a story incorrectly…
First, here is the paragraph in Mrs. Bush’s speech that referenced Doctors points of views about reading and how helpful it is and how one doctor expressed the opinion that it was helpful in cases of athsma to which she found out (the doctor did) that the mother couldn’t read. I recommend everyone go to the link that LA posted (I’ll post again … http://www.georgewbush.com/News/Read.aspx?ID=2794 )
Here is the 2 paragraphs
Pediatricians who prescribe reading are not just helping children learn to love books and reading, but they’re helping parents as well. Dr. Donna Bacchi, a pediatrician at Texas Tech University in Lubbock, Texas, started a reading program there in her practice. And she told me that she just thought she would practice the very first prescription. So she had a little patient who came in with asthma. So she talked with the boy’s mother about the importance of reading to them and she showed the mother how to hold the baby and the book. And then after a few minutes, the mom whispered in Dr. Bacchi’s ear, Doctor, I can’t.
Fortunately, Dr. Bacchi was prepared. She knew a literacy provider in the little rural town this woman was from in West Texas, and so she was able to let that woman go to this literacy provider so she could learn to read stories to her child, and she could also read the labels on her child’s asthma medication. What an extraordinary opportunity to end illiteracy for one family and to enrich their lives with reading.
Wow. The doctor found that the mother could’t read the label on the athsma prescription bottles after talking about reading to her. Now people like LA who have so much hate that they have clouded brains make judgements about Laura Bush instead of the DOCTOR that Laura Bush was quoting.
So. LA’s question was…
I’m curious about your views on Laura Bush’s “books cure asthma” initiative. Could you point me in the right direction?
My answer…
The initiative is called “Reach out and Read” LA, not “books cure athsma”. In the broad sense that Mrs. Bush (who you show disrespect for) talked about reading helping kids’ brains develop better and many other ideas she mentioned a story from one doctor who found that a mother couldn’t read and how that came about.
Everyone here can see how badly you twist things. From your comments about Michelle slamming blacks to your comments about Mrs. Bush. What do you want from us? To see things your way?
Remember I have some questions at the top of this post for you….
Crazy Fool,
To the extent that global warming is happening their are all kinds of theories but the CO2 theories don’t add up (more junk science).
The planet has gotten .1-.2 degrees hotter over the last century.
Here is a link for that kind of information..
http://www.globalwarming.org/
You know, THK, and JK were and still continue to be meant for each other. I don’t know who started it first but what sticks out in my mind is the raid that THK put against a reporter asking THK what she meant by unamerican and her comical denial that she even made the statement. Much like Kerry standing up and claiming more for the troops and military all the while voting for cuts on intelligence, and failure to vote on a bill to help fund for protection for the troops in the war.
LA, actually, I was. I took a course in Bioevolution and another in Ecology during my senior year of high school outside of my normal science requirements. I also did a term paper and a presentation for a different class on animal testing, actually.
Not that it really has anything to do with what I posted. I was referring to what other people had claimed and being facetious about it.
LA, Again with the hate rhetoric and incorrect judgements….
Yep. And therefore I shine the light on the truth.
Do you need to know so you can get out of the fog that you are in?
I noticed you didn’t read my post that asked you questions..
..and set the record straight on what Mrs. Bush said.
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The “seems” for which neither of you has bucked up one ounce of solid empirical evidence.
Responding to::
[But for John Kerry in his speech to claim that the increase in Athsma is due to (h)air polution, seems to me and Michelle that there is junk science going on (once again) by liberals.]
…in the above….
Yummy tasty pastry,
Reach out and Read is an awesome program! I work for a hospital that takes part in this initiative, and I’ve seen it make some nice differences, as well as give some kids in this area (many of whose parents don’t even speak English) an extra chance to learn more and hone their comprehension skills. It’s just fabulous!
Thanks for the post GsOuPx,
Interesting how your posting name spells GOP sux.
Did you notice in your post the following sentence, “Low-income housing is typically in poor repair and infested with cockroaches, rats, and mice, all of which can generate allergens that may exacerbate asthma.”?
And if the air quality has been increased in the past decade doesn’t it point to other factors besides air quality in general?
Here is another possibility in your post was… “Another possible factor is that an unusually high proportion of cohabiting adults may be smokers. “We did a survey about a decade ago showing that the prevalence of smoking in Harlem was about 44%,” said Dr. Northridge”
Seems to me that for John Kerry to KNOW that it’s the environment that the federal government should be doing something about with our tax dollars IGNORES the fact that there IS evidence that shows it COULD be something else which includes PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.
The farther we get away from personal responsibility the worse of we are as a nation or in the specific community that is being referenced.
American Kitty,
I think 90% of America would agree with you. What does it say about the 10% to me? They are extreme.
LA and others,
I demonstrated that LA can’t be trusted with what he writes. He claimed an initiative incorrectly and claimed Laura Bush said something that she didn’t say.
To me, it’s about whether or not you can be trusted to disseminate correct information or not….
…. and…
whether or not you perceive things and report things correctly.
I would be very tired of losing debates if I were LA. I would want to open myself up and look inside and figure out why my perception is so off and what is clouding my judgement.
LA – okay, now wait a minute, who DOESN’T hate teenagers?
LA, Again with the lie even though I corrected you..
I did. You didn’t read it. You didn’t answer questions that I had either…
Which means from this point forward I don’t answer your questions. Common courtesy.
But I’ll still point out how wrong you are.. So try not to be wrong anymore.
Like I’ve stated in another thread:
I think Liberal Avenger is a blogger troll. Anyone who skirts the arguments with low class rhetoric and repetitive one-liners shouldn’t be held in high enough regard to warrant a response.
So I’m just gonna ignore him/her/it/shim.
Hm. I’ve never emailed you.
Michelle can you block his IP for lying or slandering?
This is my last response to him because I understand it is his intent to harm people including Michelle, Laura Bush, and others. It should be about debate and not harming people.
[Seems to me that for John Kerry to KNOW that it's the environment that the federal government should be doing something about with our tax dollars IGNORES the fact that there IS evidence that shows it COULD be something else which includes PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.]
This is what Kerry said:
“What does it mean when 25 percent of our children in Harlem have asthma because of air pollution? We can do better. America can do better. And help is on the way.”
Feel free to point out where Kerry blamed any one factor for the asthma outbreak.
Deconstruct the sentence.
“25% of our children in Harlem”
“have asthma”
“because of air pollution”
All in context now….
“25% of our children in Harlem have athsma because of air pollution”.
GOPsux’s question – Feel free to point out where Kerry blamed any one factor for the athsma outbreak.
My answer – How do I point out something that you couldn’t see when you wrote it yourself? How is it not clear? John Kerry knew it was because of air pollution. He didn’t mention the cockroaches or smoking which was in the research that you yourself posted earlier.
I’m thinking that you are really against Kerry because you make it so easy.
[How do I point out something that you couldn't see when you wrote it yourself? How is it not clear? John Kerry knew it was because of air pollution. He didn't mention the cockroaches or smoking which was in the research that you yourself posted earlier.]
I also posted an EPA link that listed those specific items – smoking, cockroaches – as being air pollutants.
So, I repeat my question, feel free to point out where Kerry blamed any one factor.
[Laura Bush thinks that books cure asthma.]
Actually, old books in libraries have been found to be a trigger for asthma.
http://abilitymagazine.com/diana_asthma.html
How long has she lived in this country, and she still can’t get rid of that gutterroll accent? C’mon for Pete’s sake, we’ve got German and British actors who can speak a perfect American accent without ever living here, but she can’t even start speaking American?????
She funds terrorists too by the way, or so I’ve read. Probably fornicates with ‘em too – you know those South African women go all night – with multiple men, that slutty b-word that rhymes with “rich.”
[How long has she lived in this country, and she still can't get rid of that gutterroll accent? C'mon for Pete's sake, we've got German and British actors who can speak a perfect American accent without ever living here, but she can't even start speaking American?????
She funds terrorists too by the way, or so I've read. Probably fornicates with 'em too - you know those South African women go all night - with multiple men, that slutty b-word that rhymes with "rich."]
This post sums up quite eloquently why America occupies its current bottom rung slot in the world.
Gs, think before you write – pinko!
Stuart, I’m to the right of Bush.
To get him elected you’ll have to change your rhetoric. Please be constructive.
Stuart:
If the only arguments you can make are cheap insults, please don’t make any arguments at all.
I have to admit that I’m wondering if you’re not a liberal posting here to give conservatives a bad name – that post of yours about ‘not minding slamming black folks’ comes to mind. Maybe you just don’t realize how bad that sounds.
None of us like Teresa, but there’s no need to be obscene about her, or anyone else. Please just stop.
Beth and Baklava, you’re right, none of us do like Teresa Heinz (who only recently took the name Kerry – for political purposes!) But who are you two to tell me what I can/can’t say or whether or not I’m constructive?
I’d ask if you’re not a couple of libs posing on this site – (as you’ve seemingly said of me) picking on me like that without knowing me, my wife, my kids, my friends, the members of my group, my religious and personal convictions, my experiences, what I know, etc. Neither of you know me nor know my experiences, I’d bet I’m older than both of you and neither of you know what I’ve done for my country, and I’ve suffered for the Red, White and Blue and deserve the right to speak my mind – only the most liberal of people would try to block out truth from being spoken or written.
If all you’re talking about is holding things in and being more “PC” about particular topics, well, you’re not gonna change anything dancing around the important topics. I can remember a time when you could call a spade a spade, but not nowadays, and it is a shame. I’ll continue to speak my mind, you bite your tongue if you like.
As for the comment I made earlier, I know South African women (white ones) and I’m basing my comments on strong evidence I’ve gathered over the years on white South African women whom I’ve known (every last one of them whores and swingers), and I know her type, so I wrote the truth and I dare either of you to prove me wrong.
As for the homosexual thing you mentioned, I’m sorry, but i typed “slamming black people” and wanted to make sure no one poked fun at my words by taking them out of context, so I set the record straight right off the back. If there’s one other thing you oughtta know about me, it’s that I’M NOT GAY. Are you two????
“You can’t get into heaven without living the words of The Bible. You don’t avoid Saddom merely by shielding your eyes.” – Rex Blankenship
By the way Michelle,
Thanks for the link to Michael Fumento’s site.
Here it is again.
http://www.fumento.com/pollution/clearair.html
Interesting stuff.
[Gs, think before you write - pinko!]
Practice what you preach.
Stuart:
Obviously I can’t tell you what to say or not to say – I’m not trying to. I just suggested, based on my own perception of your remarks, that I didn’t find your recent remark helpful or interesting, and I rather doubt that anyone else did.
I’m not in the least interested in being PC. In fact, I think “political correctness” is one of our nation’s biggest problems. I was actually objecting to the pettiness of your remark. It seems to me that things like that simply give individuals like Gs ammunition to sling at us: “Look, the best argument they can come up with is to call their opponents sluts.” That was my problem with your other post too – I was actually referring to any potential racist interpretations, not the homosexuality thing.
As a matter of fact, I’m one of those horrible, intolerant people who think homosexuality in any form is wrong.
So, no, I’m not gay.
Beth:
Thanks for your kind reply, I forgive you and sorry for getting my panties in a bunch.
And you’re right: homosexuality is a ticket to hell. Sexual devients of all sorts: gays, bi’s, transgendered freakos, child molestors, swingers – they’re all less than human and only tools of Satan, here to tempt us. Like that night in Vegas. Damn them all.
Please don’t take Stuart seriously. He’s having a blast spoofing conservatives. Some of it’s objectionable but (I hate to encourage him) some it is funny.
I thought he said “hair pollution” too, when I heard it.
Then I figured he must have meant “air pollution”.
Then I figured the number, and whatever “science” was behind it, was probably full of crap.
Sky king, you don’t know me, and you don’t know anything about me. “Spoofing conservatives?” I’m a True conservative in every form of the word – and I’m sick of so-called “conservatives” who hold liberal views not dissimilar from those of the pinko Kerry and his swinger girlfriend Edwards. It’s time for us to move our party back to the right and away from the hands of the posers!
If you find me humorous, I think there’s simply something wrong with your gay views, because I speak the Truth. If you think it’s funny, then you’re thinking the wrong things.
I’ve fought for this country and could have died and would have, just so these views will rein forever. Now I’m continuing the fight from here in the hills of North Virginia and I ain’t alone. We’ve got the numbers and we’re right!
Please don’t respond to this. Let’s keep this site relevant and interesting.
I agree Baklava, but you’re one of them attacking other people in here! Let’s have a discussion, not personal attacks like that hate convention that took place this week, those scumbag heathens!
I’m confused. What’s all the fuss about bake sales for body armor? I thought it was going to be a wonderful day when the Pentagon had to hold bake sales. Don’t tell me this is another Democrat flip-flop!
As for John “Band of Mongols” Kerry, after he voted for the $87 billion for the Iraq war, he voted against it because it included no-bid contracts. Freedom from No-bid Contracts wasn’t in FDR’s Four Freedoms, and in the unlikely event it is in any GI’s list of 400 Freedoms I’m Fighting For, it’s way behind Freedom from Shrapnel through My Thorax.
I’d advise any GI tempted to buy the “Help is on the way” blather to read the fine print, except that Kerry doesn’t tell you what the fine print is until it’s nuance time.
Liberal Avenger says:
“How Republicans discredit an opponent:
Lesson #1: Attack”
…which is LA’s number one tactic.
Hm. Are you saying you’re a Republican, LA, or just a hypocrite?
LA is a nihilist perception moron. Without being consciously aware of it, these people remake reality moment to moment. You can completely box them in rhetorically, and they will tell themselves (and then believe) that your argument never existed. Inconvenient facts get filtered out or hidden behind barriers to objective perception. Because of this, they talk at you, not to you.
This is because they are limbic system dominated, i.e., reptilian. Everything revolves around primitive considerations, territoriality, herding, fear, agression, in-group/out-group identification, etc.
LA’s problem with the facts is that they are being uttered by people who are not in his herd. So he/she struts, preens, squawks, postures, and expands a reddened throat pouch, while making gutteral sounds in order to mark territory, like some hissing lizard on a beach.
Like I said, they’re completely unaware of all this, and the perception filtering takes place mostly sub-consciously. So you hold up an undistorted mirror like this to them, and they’ll forget all about it in a few minutes.
Squawk.
Hey I just stubled on this thread, and it’s very compelling reading. i’ve been listening to the various aspects of these aruments go back and forth and back and forth… You all are some interesting posters.
But when are all you homo republicans going to start ass-fuking each other? You don’t have to wait for the convention, you know.. The tension is unbearable in here.
I think Stuart is dreaming of some Baklava spilling down his cheeks. Yuum.
I think part of the increased rates of asthma are increased numbers of children who would have died in past years from complications of asthma and related illneses. The techniques/technology of saving and lengthening the lives of people with asthma gets better every year.
Also several of the deliberately misquided (i.e. liberal) posters have brought up this “allergens are air pollution” as if that proves that republicans have created them. The point is that things like smoke, cockroach droppings and living in filth are self induced air pollution, and not attributable to any political party.