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		<title>By: Number 2 Pencil</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2004/08/03/revolt-of-the-homeschoolers/comment-page-1/#comment-6597</link>
		<dc:creator>Number 2 Pencil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2004 17:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;At least the homeschooled kids could used &quot;cloistered&quot; in a sentence&lt;/strong&gt;

A recent AP report on the rise of homeschooling notes that parents believe the public schools are not safe or appropriate places for their kids: WASHINGTON (AP) - Almost 1.1 million students were home-schooled last year, their numbers pushed higher...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>At least the homeschooled kids could used &#8220;cloistered&#8221; in a sentence</strong></p>
<p>A recent AP report on the rise of homeschooling notes that parents believe the public schools are not safe or appropriate places for their kids: WASHINGTON (AP) &#8211; Almost 1.1 million students were home-schooled last year, their numbers pushed higher&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: GsOuPx</title>
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		<dc:creator>GsOuPx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2004 14:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops...what a bad thread for typos, eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops&#8230;what a bad thread for typos, eh?</p>
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		<title>By: GsOuPx</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2004/08/03/revolt-of-the-homeschoolers/comment-page-1/#comment-6595</link>
		<dc:creator>GsOuPx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2004 14:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a couple of observations:

A) We stopped inviting home schooled kids to our daughter&#039;s birthdays after she turned 7 having gotten tired of kids who had 0 sharing skills.  We also tired of the parents who defended the poor group behavior of their home schooled child.

B) Most of the people whom I know who home school, I would not want teaching my children.  So, why would I want them treeaching other children?

C) Home schooling contributes more to a &quot;muti-culturalist&quot; society then public shooling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a couple of observations:</p>
<p>A) We stopped inviting home schooled kids to our daughter&#8217;s birthdays after she turned 7 having gotten tired of kids who had 0 sharing skills.  We also tired of the parents who defended the poor group behavior of their home schooled child.</p>
<p>B) Most of the people whom I know who home school, I would not want teaching my children.  So, why would I want them treeaching other children?</p>
<p>C) Home schooling contributes more to a &#8220;muti-culturalist&#8221; society then public shooling.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2004 13:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fascinating article, and interesting comments on this thread. My wife and I have no kids(not by choice), but we have friends who have home schooled in the past. The home maker wife has done the teaching, but this fall the kids are going to be going to the local school, which is quite lousy.
Curious, I asked her husband why, and he responded that she&#039;s burned out.
I hope that Ms. Malkin won&#039;t mind, but I have two questions related to this.
1. Is burn out among home school parents common?
2. What can be done to avoid/recover from burn out?
Thanks in advance for any tips, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascinating article, and interesting comments on this thread. My wife and I have no kids(not by choice), but we have friends who have home schooled in the past. The home maker wife has done the teaching, but this fall the kids are going to be going to the local school, which is quite lousy.<br />
Curious, I asked her husband why, and he responded that she&#8217;s burned out.<br />
I hope that Ms. Malkin won&#8217;t mind, but I have two questions related to this.<br />
1. Is burn out among home school parents common?<br />
2. What can be done to avoid/recover from burn out?<br />
Thanks in advance for any tips, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: vanyogan</title>
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		<dc:creator>vanyogan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2004 08:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have heard the argument about socialization and home schooling. In one word...nonsense! I have a neice and a nephew who are both in college on scholarships. They both received scholarships to a private high school. All this by my religious conservative sister who now works as a social worker. But here is some direct evidence of just how nonsensical this home schooling maladjustment argument is. IT definitely debunks the myth in my own mind. RE:

U.S. Women&#039;s Open Golf Championship, day one. Read the entire interview. It will crack you up, even if you don&#039;t play golf.
An Interview with: Brittany Lincicome(18 years old, home schooled)

RHONDA GLENN: Ladies and gentlemen, Brittany Lincicome, 5-under par, 66, ties the Amateur record set by Carol Semple-Thompson who in 1994 shot a 66 at Indianwood. I believe that was a par-72 course, but we&#039;ll check that for you. But still the number is the same. You started out 1 over par after two holes. And then you just caught fire. Tell us your general impressions of the ground.

http://www.uswomensopen.com/press/interviews/lincicome-thu.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have heard the argument about socialization and home schooling. In one word&#8230;nonsense! I have a neice and a nephew who are both in college on scholarships. They both received scholarships to a private high school. All this by my religious conservative sister who now works as a social worker. But here is some direct evidence of just how nonsensical this home schooling maladjustment argument is. IT definitely debunks the myth in my own mind. RE:</p>
<p>U.S. Women&#8217;s Open Golf Championship, day one. Read the entire interview. It will crack you up, even if you don&#8217;t play golf.<br />
An Interview with: Brittany Lincicome(18 years old, home schooled)</p>
<p>RHONDA GLENN: Ladies and gentlemen, Brittany Lincicome, 5-under par, 66, ties the Amateur record set by Carol Semple-Thompson who in 1994 shot a 66 at Indianwood. I believe that was a par-72 course, but we&#8217;ll check that for you. But still the number is the same. You started out 1 over par after two holes. And then you just caught fire. Tell us your general impressions of the ground.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.uswomensopen.com/press/interviews/lincicome-thu.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.uswomensopen.com/press/interviews/lincicome-thu.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Blogbat aka Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blogbat aka Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2004 06:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gennie, sounds like child abuse to me. If I were her, id organize a class-action suit, bring in doctors- the whole nine yards and bring these nazis down ;-) I&#039;d also have said group contacting state representitives, as well as federal AND i&#039;d start a nasty letter-writing campaign, get the press involved and finally...add a cherrie on top and call it done! :D public school nazis do stink.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gennie, sounds like child abuse to me. If I were her, id organize a class-action suit, bring in doctors- the whole nine yards and bring these nazis down <img src='http://michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  I&#8217;d also have said group contacting state representitives, as well as federal AND i&#8217;d start a nasty letter-writing campaign, get the press involved and finally&#8230;add a cherrie on top and call it done! <img src='http://michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  public school nazis do stink.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2004 06:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michelle:

Worst of all, let&#039;s not forget about the girl whose hair was set afire in a Denver school by by one of her &quot;socialized&quot; peers. For more, cut and paste the following:

http://www.thewbalchannel.com/education/3349955/detail.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michelle:</p>
<p>Worst of all, let&#8217;s not forget about the girl whose hair was set afire in a Denver school by by one of her &#8220;socialized&#8221; peers. For more, cut and paste the following:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thewbalchannel.com/education/3349955/detail.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.thewbalchannel.com/education/3349955/detail.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: hwm</title>
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		<dc:creator>hwm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2004 06:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Curious,
Check out homeschoolfun.com for a start. There are literally thousands of sites. Many are specific to grades and subjects. Google searches are good for finding exactly what you&#039;re looking for. Also, many universities have free online classes. MIT is a forerunner on this kind of service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curious,<br />
Check out homeschoolfun.com for a start. There are literally thousands of sites. Many are specific to grades and subjects. Google searches are good for finding exactly what you&#8217;re looking for. Also, many universities have free online classes. MIT is a forerunner on this kind of service.</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dustin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2004 05:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would go, in order

1. Private School
2. Home School

Inconclusive: Public School

First of all, most of my friends growing up were neighborhood kids who weren&#039;t even in the same grade as me, and we went to different schools. Then, most of my friends were from sports leagues I was in like baseball, and then in high school when I got that silly thing called a &quot;job.&quot; Isn&#039;t school a time to learn and not play hook-up?

As far as quality education concerns, I went to public school after having left private school in the second grade. The other kids didnt catch up until I was in the 5th grade. In 6th grade, I went back to private school and I had fallen so far behind I nearly flunked out...

I would never subject my child to public education.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would go, in order</p>
<p>1. Private School<br />
2. Home School</p>
<p>Inconclusive: Public School</p>
<p>First of all, most of my friends growing up were neighborhood kids who weren&#8217;t even in the same grade as me, and we went to different schools. Then, most of my friends were from sports leagues I was in like baseball, and then in high school when I got that silly thing called a &#8220;job.&#8221; Isn&#8217;t school a time to learn and not play hook-up?</p>
<p>As far as quality education concerns, I went to public school after having left private school in the second grade. The other kids didnt catch up until I was in the 5th grade. In 6th grade, I went back to private school and I had fallen so far behind I nearly flunked out&#8230;</p>
<p>I would never subject my child to public education.</p>
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		<title>By: Wasabi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wasabi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2004 04:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We homeschool our kids (8 year old boy/girl twins), and are part of an involved co-op in the Central MD area (Howard County, Baltimore County, etc.). Plenty of socialization going on...Positive interaction with kids of above average smarts, politeness, and respect. Home school karate classes, art classes, camps (my daughter has already attended THREE camps this summer created by homeschool parents...this week it&#039;s horseback riding camp), theatre productions, concert series, etc.

As they get older and further along in their studies, parents who are subject matter experts are taking it upon themselves to offer co-op courses for advanced subjects. There are also commercial curriculum providers such as K12, and community college courses are open to high school students, as well.

By the way, I was educated in Montgomery County public schools, and I know that my high school is nowhere near the quality it was when I was there in the early 80s. Now, it has the reputation of being downright dangerous. Go figure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We homeschool our kids (8 year old boy/girl twins), and are part of an involved co-op in the Central MD area (Howard County, Baltimore County, etc.). Plenty of socialization going on&#8230;Positive interaction with kids of above average smarts, politeness, and respect. Home school karate classes, art classes, camps (my daughter has already attended THREE camps this summer created by homeschool parents&#8230;this week it&#8217;s horseback riding camp), theatre productions, concert series, etc.</p>
<p>As they get older and further along in their studies, parents who are subject matter experts are taking it upon themselves to offer co-op courses for advanced subjects. There are also commercial curriculum providers such as K12, and community college courses are open to high school students, as well.</p>
<p>By the way, I was educated in Montgomery County public schools, and I know that my high school is nowhere near the quality it was when I was there in the early 80s. Now, it has the reputation of being downright dangerous. Go figure.</p>
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		<title>By: edpi</title>
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		<dc:creator>edpi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2004 04:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I encourage everyone to read this essay by Paul Graham. He is dead on in his description of social relations in schools, and it very fine writing indeed. I&#039;ve been out of school for decades; he took me right back. 
http://www.paulgraham.com/nerds.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I encourage everyone to read this essay by Paul Graham. He is dead on in his description of social relations in schools, and it very fine writing indeed. I&#8217;ve been out of school for decades; he took me right back.<br />
<a href="http://www.paulgraham.com/nerds.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.paulgraham.com/nerds.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ari</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2004 04:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michelle: should I assume that you plan to deny your children the wonders of a Montgomery County (MD) Public Schools education?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michelle: should I assume that you plan to deny your children the wonders of a Montgomery County (MD) Public Schools education?</p>
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		<title>By: Curious..</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curious..</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2004 03:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can someone provide a good webpage for homeschooling resources?</description>
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		<title>By: BradDad</title>
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		<dc:creator>BradDad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2004 03:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hal:

I&#039;m going to treat your comments as honest questions rather than some sort of attack on homeschooling because there was nothing in your post which suggested otherwise - at least, to me.

There are lots of options:

1.  Homeschool curriculum is written with the realization that the parent teaching might not have a lot of knowledge in the subject.  If you can read &amp; follow directions, most parents can get through it and be effective.

2.  There are, of course, subjects which a parent won&#039;t feel comfortable teaching.  

*  The &quot;umbrella school&quot; my kids are in happens to have a college professor affiliated with the school who teaches advanced high school subjects in his disciplines.  

In other instances where kids aren&#039;t in a umbrella school or they&#039;re not blessed with college professors affiliated with the school, parents will band together to provide classes in areas where they&#039;re especially qualified.  Engineers might teach math, bilingual parents will teach their language, writers/newspaper reporters will teach English, pastors will teach Bible, etc.

Or they might &#039;subcontract&#039; work out.  Here in Florida, for example, our  community colleges are happy to take anyone willing to pay the fees to take classes, so it&#039;s easy to add college coursework to the homeschool student&#039;s curriculum.

The most important thing to remember, though, is this - more likely than not, the person teaching your kids in the public school is an &quot;education&quot; major, which means he or she is really only an expert in one thing - &quot;education theory&quot;.  Don&#039;t assume he/she has special training in the subject matter he/she teaches.

What &quot;Home School&quot; means, in this day and age, is that the child&#039;s education is directed by the parents, i.e., the child&#039;s &quot;School&quot; is &quot;Home&quot; - it doesn&#039;t mean the parents teach every class.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hal:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to treat your comments as honest questions rather than some sort of attack on homeschooling because there was nothing in your post which suggested otherwise &#8211; at least, to me.</p>
<p>There are lots of options:</p>
<p>1.  Homeschool curriculum is written with the realization that the parent teaching might not have a lot of knowledge in the subject.  If you can read &#038; follow directions, most parents can get through it and be effective.</p>
<p>2.  There are, of course, subjects which a parent won&#8217;t feel comfortable teaching.  </p>
<p>*  The &#8220;umbrella school&#8221; my kids are in happens to have a college professor affiliated with the school who teaches advanced high school subjects in his disciplines.  </p>
<p>In other instances where kids aren&#8217;t in a umbrella school or they&#8217;re not blessed with college professors affiliated with the school, parents will band together to provide classes in areas where they&#8217;re especially qualified.  Engineers might teach math, bilingual parents will teach their language, writers/newspaper reporters will teach English, pastors will teach Bible, etc.</p>
<p>Or they might &#8217;subcontract&#8217; work out.  Here in Florida, for example, our  community colleges are happy to take anyone willing to pay the fees to take classes, so it&#8217;s easy to add college coursework to the homeschool student&#8217;s curriculum.</p>
<p>The most important thing to remember, though, is this &#8211; more likely than not, the person teaching your kids in the public school is an &#8220;education&#8221; major, which means he or she is really only an expert in one thing &#8211; &#8220;education theory&#8221;.  Don&#8217;t assume he/she has special training in the subject matter he/she teaches.</p>
<p>What &#8220;Home School&#8221; means, in this day and age, is that the child&#8217;s education is directed by the parents, i.e., the child&#8217;s &#8220;School&#8221; is &#8220;Home&#8221; &#8211; it doesn&#8217;t mean the parents teach every class.</p>
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		<title>By: Holley Minton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holley Minton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2004 03:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What most people don&#039;t understand is that homeschooling isn&#039;t &quot;school at home&quot;. My twin 15 year olds have been at home since third grade. Before school they had been best friends and always laughed and talked together. After two years of elementary school, they were bickering constantly. The week I brought them home, the tension was gone and they were playing together again. I wouldn&#039;t trade one minute of &quot;public school socialization&quot; for the love and consideration my children have for each other.
   By the way, they both test on a post high school level in all subjects after ninth grade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What most people don&#8217;t understand is that homeschooling isn&#8217;t &#8220;school at home&#8221;. My twin 15 year olds have been at home since third grade. Before school they had been best friends and always laughed and talked together. After two years of elementary school, they were bickering constantly. The week I brought them home, the tension was gone and they were playing together again. I wouldn&#8217;t trade one minute of &#8220;public school socialization&#8221; for the love and consideration my children have for each other.<br />
   By the way, they both test on a post high school level in all subjects after ninth grade.</p>
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