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		<title>By: zyzzyg</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2006/01/25/dowdifying-ben-franklin/comment-page-1/#comment-811201</link>
		<dc:creator>zyzzyg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, it is not unlike many famous quotes that have become mangled over time.

The proof is in the pudding.

Nope.  It is, the proof of the pudding is in the eating.

And yes, there is context that has met with abuse, too.

Jeffersons Tree of Liberty letter has been used without context, or a fuller understanding of what he was talking about.

Yes, he said, &lt;em&gt;&#039;The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots &amp; tyrants.&#039;&lt;/em&gt;

The reality, and fuller context, is that the letter was about Shay&#039;s rebellion.  And, Jefferson also said the following, &lt;em&gt;&#039;I say nothing of it&#039;s motives. They were &lt;strong&gt;founded in ignorance&lt;/strong&gt;, not wickedness. God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, &amp; always &lt;strong&gt;well informed&lt;/strong&gt; . . .&#039;&lt;/em&gt;

Yep, in context Jefferson was talking about knuckleheads.

Read it for yourself - 

http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/96oct/obrien/blood.htm

This is not to say what the students are either right or wrong, but that taking things out of context and abusing quotes is something that is done, and should always be corrected.  Everytime and in every way, notwithstanding an individual&#039;s agenda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, it is not unlike many famous quotes that have become mangled over time.</p>
<p>The proof is in the pudding.</p>
<p>Nope.  It is, the proof of the pudding is in the eating.</p>
<p>And yes, there is context that has met with abuse, too.</p>
<p>Jeffersons Tree of Liberty letter has been used without context, or a fuller understanding of what he was talking about.</p>
<p>Yes, he said, <em>&#8216;The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots &amp; tyrants.&#8217;</em></p>
<p>The reality, and fuller context, is that the letter was about Shay&#8217;s rebellion.  And, Jefferson also said the following, <em>&#8216;I say nothing of it&#8217;s motives. They were <strong>founded in ignorance</strong>, not wickedness. God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, &amp; always <strong>well informed</strong> . . .&#8217;</em></p>
<p>Yep, in context Jefferson was talking about knuckleheads.</p>
<p>Read it for yourself &#8211; </p>
<p><a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/96oct/obrien/blood.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/96oct/obrien/blood.htm</a></p>
<p>This is not to say what the students are either right or wrong, but that taking things out of context and abusing quotes is something that is done, and should always be corrected.  Everytime and in every way, notwithstanding an individual&#8217;s agenda.</p>
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		<title>By: zocor</title>
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		<dc:creator>zocor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;zocor&lt;/strong&gt;

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		<title>By: eplrazolam</title>
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		<dc:creator>eplrazolam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 15:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;eplrazolam&lt;/strong&gt;

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		<title>By: Ace of Spades HQ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ace of Spades HQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Apr 2006 20:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Kerry, Liberals, and Media Quote From &lt;i&gt;Stuff Jefferson Said,&lt;/i&gt; 4th Edition (Rev&#039;d)&lt;/strong&gt;

We&#039;ve all had great fun with Dave in Texas&#039; (I think) dog-eared copy of Stuff Jefferson Said, a book which does not exist compiling quotes Jefferson which did not say or write. Alas, what is silly fun among bloggers and...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Kerry, Liberals, and Media Quote From <i>Stuff Jefferson Said,</i> 4th Edition (Rev&#8217;d)</strong></p>
<p>We&#8217;ve all had great fun with Dave in Texas&#8217; (I think) dog-eared copy of Stuff Jefferson Said, a book which does not exist compiling quotes Jefferson which did not say or write. Alas, what is silly fun among bloggers and&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2006 05:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;muscular gay men in uniform&lt;/strong&gt;

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<p><a href="http://bloggercrab.com/blogs/regardstorm/" rel="nofollow">gay boys in boxers</a> <a href="http://bloggercrab.com/blogs/regardstorm/" rel="nofollow">erotic gym hunks</a> <a href="http://bloggercrab.com/blogs/regardstorm/" rel="nofollow">hunks in swimwear</a></p>
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		<title>By: The Texas Songbird</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Texas Songbird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2006 23:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Happy Birthday, Senator Kennedy&lt;/strong&gt;

Interestingly enough, a recent protest by Georgetown students during a speech by Attorney General Alberto Gonzales was well covered by the media, with no actions taken by the school administration to discipline or even rebuke the students involved. The...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Happy Birthday, Senator Kennedy</strong></p>
<p>Interestingly enough, a recent protest by Georgetown students during a speech by Attorney General Alberto Gonzales was well covered by the media, with no actions taken by the school administration to discipline or even rebuke the students involved. The&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ~Neophyte Pundit~</title>
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		<dc:creator>~Neophyte Pundit~</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2006 15:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Benjamin Franklin Quote&lt;/strong&gt;

I was listening to FOX &amp; Friends this morning and they asked callers to phone in with their thoughts on the &quot;domestic wiretapping&quot; that the president has authorized. Attorney General Gonzalez was before the Senate Judiciary Committee defending the Exec...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Benjamin Franklin Quote</strong></p>
<p>I was listening to FOX &#038; Friends this morning and they asked callers to phone in with their thoughts on the &#8220;domestic wiretapping&#8221; that the president has authorized. Attorney General Gonzalez was before the Senate Judiciary Committee defending the Exec&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: disproportionate stupidity</title>
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		<dc:creator>disproportionate stupidity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2006 02:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;what the hell?&lt;/strong&gt;

It makes me so damn angry to read stuff like this.  Of course, there is no commenting on the posts, I assume for fear that a dissenting opinion might be posted (Probably more than one, I would say).  But they post the agreeing comments from readers, pr...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>what the hell?</strong></p>
<p>It makes me so damn angry to read stuff like this.  Of course, there is no commenting on the posts, I assume for fear that a dissenting opinion might be posted (Probably more than one, I would say).  But they post the agreeing comments from readers, pr&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Elecktronick Tyger Roares</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Elecktronick Tyger Roares</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2006 19:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Blaming the Wrong Usual Suspects...&lt;/strong&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Blaming the Wrong Usual Suspects&#8230;</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Hammer of Truth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hammer of Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2006 02:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;NSA on 4th Amend: Probable Lapse of Memory&lt;/strong&gt;

This video of Gen. Hayden (a high-ranking military dude who vowed to uphold the Constitution and Bill of Rights, speaking for the NSA) botching the fourth amendment is crazy delicious orwellian. From the Keith Olbermann Countdown transcript:
	UNIDENTI...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>NSA on 4th Amend: Probable Lapse of Memory</strong></p>
<p>This video of Gen. Hayden (a high-ranking military dude who vowed to uphold the Constitution and Bill of Rights, speaking for the NSA) botching the fourth amendment is crazy delicious orwellian. From the Keith Olbermann Countdown transcript:<br />
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		<title>By: Hoosier Illuminati</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hoosier Illuminati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2006 14:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Well now.&lt;/strong&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Remember the Benjamin Franklin quote about liberty, the sacrifice thereof, and the probable results of same? Apparently our fine institutions of higher learning aren&apos;t teaching it correctly anymore.
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(Either that or the students didn&amp;ap...&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Well now.</strong></p>
<p>Remember the Benjamin Franklin quote about liberty, the sacrifice thereof, and the probable results of same? Apparently our fine institutions of higher learning aren&apos;t teaching it correctly anymore.
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(Either that or the students didn&#038;ap&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ReidBlog</title>
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		<dc:creator>ReidBlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2006 07:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Ben Franklin (Mis)reader&lt;/strong&gt;

Michelle Malkin labors mightily to prove the intellectual superiority of the pro-COINTELPRO right. Let&#039;s see how she does...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Ben Franklin (Mis)reader</strong></p>
<p>Michelle Malkin labors mightily to prove the intellectual superiority of the pro-COINTELPRO right. Let&#8217;s see how she does&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Conservative Cat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Conservative Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2006 02:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Why Fanatics Seek Wiggle Room While the Mainstream Says It&#039;s All or Nothing&lt;/strong&gt;

My article Abusing Ben Franklin for Political Purposes was cited by Michelle Malkin today, proving that the lady has superior taste. The increased traffic brought the following comment. Funny how all the right wing fanatics, who obsess over their guns...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Why Fanatics Seek Wiggle Room While the Mainstream Says It&#8217;s All or Nothing</strong></p>
<p>My article Abusing Ben Franklin for Political Purposes was cited by Michelle Malkin today, proving that the lady has superior taste. The increased traffic brought the following comment. Funny how all the right wing fanatics, who obsess over their guns&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Flopping Aces</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flopping Aces</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2006 02:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Hillary&#039;s Waffles&lt;/strong&gt;

Either way you look at it the lefties will lose this one once again. They continue to fall flat on their faces because in their smug arrogant little minds they believe we should ALL think like them. So they continue to push issues such as this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Hillary&#8217;s Waffles</strong></p>
<p>Either way you look at it the lefties will lose this one once again. They continue to fall flat on their faces because in their smug arrogant little minds they believe we should ALL think like them. So they continue to push issues such as this.</p>
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		<title>By: Independent Conservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>Independent Conservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2006 00:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;No quote like a misquote!&lt;/strong&gt;

People usually enjoy having words to live by.  Timeless statements that they hold dear to their hearts.  Well what happens when a quote is misstated or even made up, while being attributed to a respected source?  It leaves individuals who don&#8217;t ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>No quote like a misquote!</strong></p>
<p>People usually enjoy having words to live by.  Timeless statements that they hold dear to their hearts.  Well what happens when a quote is misstated or even made up, while being attributed to a respected source?  It leaves individuals who don&#8217;t &#8230;</p>
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