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1. #1
   On June 25th, 2007 at 2:38 pm, The Raging Republican said:

   Its insane. They can’t even get American’s their passports effectively and they expect us to think that they can process all 12 million illegals in 24 hours. Give me a break!

2. #2
   On June 25th, 2007 at 2:51 pm, Kevin from Ohio in Virginia said:

   I truly believe that they can process all 12 million illegals in twenty four hours. Who DOESN’T think that this will take at least 12 million days?

3. #3
   On June 25th, 2007 at 2:52 pm, feralcat said:

   They can process 12 million illegals in 24 hours.

   Approved. Approved. Approved.
   Stamp. Stamp. Stamp.

   Aprobado. Aprobado. Aprobado.
   Estampilla. Estampilla. Estampilla.

4. #4
   On June 25th, 2007 at 2:55 pm, Gulchie said:

   Even further evidence (as if we needed more) that this bill is destined to be a disaster. Yet, the Senate is so arrogant that it is determined to pass this bill regardless of what virtually every expert out there says about it.

5. #5
   On June 25th, 2007 at 3:02 pm, Thomas said:

   Well done, feralcat

6. #6
   On June 25th, 2007 at 3:12 pm, Insomniac said:

   They can’t even get American’s their passports effectively and they expect us to think that they can process all 12 million illegals in 24 hours.

   Easy, really. Bundle all the applications and approve the 12 million illegals as a single bloc. Given the administration’s record on immigration enforcement, they might as well.

7. #7
   On June 25th, 2007 at 3:18 pm, evilned said:

   It took a year and a half for my wife to get her visa and then another 14 months for her to get her green card.

   Her sister is LEGALLY MARRIED to a native born American citizen and is STILL waiting for her visa!

   We obeyed the law and we’re getting the shaft.

   If you have any interest in seeing what we have gone through, pop over to http://www.angry.net and click on the immigration link.

8. #8
   On June 25th, 2007 at 3:34 pm, uhangtight said:

   yeah, like the government can run anything efficiently and effectively. Oh wait a minute, they can, corruption, taxatioin without representation and lest we forget amnesty.

9. #9
   On June 25th, 2007 at 3:47 pm, bdfaith said:

   I’m too PO’d to come up with a printable comment but I linked.

   btw, “damn” is a verb. The adjective form is “damned.”

10. #10
    On June 25th, 2007 at 3:57 pm, bloodhound said:

    UNBELIEVABLE!

    Time to pull out of Washington. Obviously they are not sophisticated enough to manage themselves, let alone police themselves and their institutions rife with corruption!

11. #11
    On June 25th, 2007 at 3:57 pm, todd76705 said:

    just wondering, why are the politicians still trying to pass this amnesty bill after if failed the first time they tried it?

12. #12
    On June 25th, 2007 at 3:59 pm, DR1579 said:

    Remind me again why it is “We can’t possibly deport all 12+ million illegals”?

    Its easy go find people who are here, don’t speak English & don’t have proof of citizenship lock them in buses and release at border!
    see its easy.

13. #13
    On June 25th, 2007 at 4:02 pm, governmentdrone said:

    On June 25th, 2007 at 3:57 pm, todd76705 said:
    just wondering, why are the politicians still trying to pass this amnesty bill after if failed the first time they tried it?

    Follow the money.

    Time to vote ‘em out.

14. #14
    On June 25th, 2007 at 4:03 pm, walterc said:

    It’s the Washington way: Screw up, move up.

    A friend once told me that “it is the right and responsibility of every public official to rise to their own level of incompetency.” At the time I thought he was joking, but by spending 15 years in state government and watching the workings of the beltway, I find it sadly true.

15. #15
    On June 25th, 2007 at 4:23 pm, stevem said:

    I’m really at a loss for how politicians get away with creating laws, pronouncing the problem solved and then move to the next issue.

    It’s a vicious cycle and the problems get worse. We’d be better off if they did NOTHING back in 1986 – or whenever the last amnesty bill was shoved through congress and signed by Reagan.

    Why can’t we just enforce the laws that are currently on the books?

16. #16
    On June 25th, 2007 at 4:38 pm, bear1909 said:

    We will be hit and hit hard. Consider this: here in the SF Bay Area there is a growing Muslim presence, including more mosques. Add to this that in the past 2 years there have been arms seizures made at the Port of Oakland….kalishnikov rifles…all unreported by the local media, but well-known to dock workers there. The terrorist game plan is to strike us here within our borders *at the same time* that they seek to embarass the US military in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    Imagine a fighting force of 20,000 armed terrorists with automatic weapons and large neighborhoods to hide in (moderate muslim neighborhoods of course) while police and national guard troops try to figure out what hit them.

    I tell ya, it will be going down in the next 18 months. And Congress and Immigration agencies and HLS have all aided and abetted a lethal enemy.

17. #17
    On June 25th, 2007 at 4:48 pm, Dasher said:

    Listening on the radio today (Rush I think), a caller asked why under S1348, the Senate claims they can vet immigrants in 24 hours. Whereas today a legal immigrant takes 5-7 years to be vetted for citizenship, plus many thousands of dollars of legal expenses. I think the Senate is attempting to fix the wrong problem.

18. #18
    On June 25th, 2007 at 4:52 pm, citizen said:

    Here’s what I sent to Inhofe concerning this:

    I am totally opposed to any and all forms of the current legislation. First: SECURE THE BORDER. Second: Admit immigrants in the order they applied. Third: deport the law breakers. Yes, this would amount to all the illegals, who are trespassers and/or invaders. Which leads back to: SECURE THE BORDERS. That is the first order of business for elected officials, and it’s the one thing about which every elected official is derelect in his duty. SECURE THE BORDER. ADMIT IMMIGRANTS IN THE ORDER THEY APPLIED AND WERE VETTED. DO NOTHING ELSE UNTIL THESE TWO ITEMS ARE COMPLETELY COMPLIED WITH. THIS IS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE.

    citizen

    95theses.wordpress.com

19. #19
    On June 25th, 2007 at 5:01 pm, feralcat said:

    governmentdrone said: “Follow the money.

    Or follow the chicken bones or heads of lettuce!

20. #20
    On June 25th, 2007 at 5:10 pm, josetheguerilla said:

    If America dose not stand up for it self now, Southern California look out! Look to become the next Tijuana sewer. Complete with political assassinations, drug cartels, whore (Shabaz) houses, police corruption, organized crime, and yes the donkey lady. And these people are supposed to be conservatives? How are we suppose to know who’s here if the government miscounted by 1.5 million passports?

    Clear the damn backlogs, first!!!!!!!!!

    jose

21. #21
    On June 25th, 2007 at 5:23 pm, dedgod said:

    As a legal immigrant, I started graduate school in 1995, spent 2 1/2 years in grad school (paying out of state tuition for a year and a half), graduated, and have been working as a software engineer since 1998. I got my green card in 2005 (that’s right..it took 7 years), and under current law, i can’t apply for citizenship till 2010.
    In case your counting, thats a total of 15 years.

    Perhaps, I should leave america, then jump across the (imaginary) border fence, enter the country, and take part in demonstrations *DEMANDING* citizenship, all the while waving the flags of my native country. Oh yeah, and unlearn speaking english, and make sure I dont bother integrating with the rest of the country.

22. #22
    On June 25th, 2007 at 6:08 pm, chsw said:

    My parents had to wait four and six years, respectively, to immigrate from Great Britain after WW2. They had to be vetted. They had to have a sponsor who would guarantee that they would not be on welfare for the first two years that they were in this country. And when they disembarked in NY, they had to produce matching paperwork to what was already on file.

    Why was this a bad system, other than for the wait? It can certainly be reproduced now. Moreover, the key to the system was the vetting process. Vetting is what all the current fuss is over. However, no one apparently remembers that we are at war and therefore it is in the national security interest of America – no matter which party controls Congress or the Presidency – that immigrants be scrutinized.

    chsw, son of immigrants

23. #23
    On June 25th, 2007 at 6:30 pm, Rick Moran said:

    Feral Cat:

    Your references to stereotypes – “Or follow the chicken bones or heads of lettuce!” is offensive and is creeping in to several of your posts.

    Please refrain from using such language or your posting privileges will be yanked.

24. #24
    On June 25th, 2007 at 6:32 pm, Patchthebun said:

    I tried to get my name and address changed on my green card a couple years ago after I got married. I got a letter saying my application had been received and I would have to wait 18 months for a response. Thats a YEAR AND A HALF for a simple name and address change.

25. #25
    On June 25th, 2007 at 8:03 pm, DaleC said:

    Everyone should take a moment and think seriously about what #16 bear1909 above has just said. I do not know if his time frame is correct but this seems to be their plan and we should be ready to protect ourselves while law enforcement is wondering what hit them. The question is not if but when .

26. #26
    On June 25th, 2007 at 8:14 pm, Mr_Conservative_Cat said:

    You can process 12 million illegals regardless of status very quickly with a few procedural votes and a signature. Michelle calls it shamnesty.

    There is an aspect of this that no one seems to be touching on and that’s the message this sends to radicals who want to destroy us:

    OVERWHELM OUR LAWS BY SHEER NUMBERS AND WE WILL GIVE UP.

    The amnesty bill should be killed immediately and stronger measures taken to deport those 12 million just to ensure that that message alone is not heard loud and clear.

    Like, NOW.

27. #27
    On June 25th, 2007 at 8:37 pm, DaleC said:

    Now that you mention it Michelle I have not heard alot of people on either side bringing up the backlogs.They probably have all the law-abiding workers they need sitting on someone’s desk but they choose amnesty for illegals. I would like to hear the response from the shamnesty people.

28. #28
    On June 25th, 2007 at 8:54 pm, feralcat said:

    Rick Moran said: ”

    Feral Cat:

    Your references to stereotypes – “Or follow the chicken bones or heads of lettuce!” is offensive and is creeping in to several of your posts.

    Please refrain from using such language or your posting privileges will be yanked.

    Chicken bones is clearly a metaphor for Tysons Foods (remember the raid?) which kills chickens and employs illegals and makes campaign contributions to politicians.

    Lettuce is clearly a metaphor for agri-business which among other things, employs illegals to pick lettuce (remember Juan McAmnesty saying that Americans are too lazy to pick lettuce even at $50 an hour?) and makes campaign contributions to politicians.

    How does that constitute a stereotype?

    How is that offensive?

    Please explain.

    Also please explain “creeping in to several of your posts.”

    Thank you.

29. #29
    On June 25th, 2007 at 8:58 pm, feralcat said:

    In other words, follow the money from chicken processors and from agri-business.

    Again please explain.

30. #30
    On June 25th, 2007 at 9:05 pm, feralcat said:

    If it was shoe manufactures who where employing illegals, I would have used the metaphor of “follow the shoes”, but as far as I know shoe manufactures are not employing illegals.

    If it was silverware manufactures who where employing illegals, I would have used the metaphor of “follow the silverware”, but as far as I know silverware manufactures are not employing illegals.

    Again, please elaborate on your comment.

31. #31
    On June 25th, 2007 at 9:13 pm, feralcat said:

    Actually maybe it was more of an allegory.

    Are those not allowed either?

32. #32
    On June 25th, 2007 at 9:52 pm, Mr_Conservative_Cat said:

    Feral,

    As one cat to another, while I can’t say I completely see Rick’s point, either, it may be that he’s erring on the side of caution, as should we all. Remember, my friend, we have a gigantic mainstream disadvantage against us (us meaning conservatives): no one except Fox holds the mainstream accountable but on the filp side, angry, syccophantic, left-wing blogosphere pyschos comb the net endlessly at their jobs instead of doing what they’re being paid for looking for any tidbit which the mainstream media will use all over the cable, internet and airwave venues. So yes, any sense of racial prejudice, no matter how unlikely, needs to be monitored carefully. We all know it – the mainstream is waging an all-out culture war, and they’re definately in win-at-all-costs, take-no-prisoners mode.

    In terms of analogies, the zany senators and their immigration bill makes me think of this analogy: they’re like weekend gardeners who love to decorate but can’t be bothered to pull the weeds. Result? Chaos. Except in this case, one of those weeds might be growing with the intention of setting off a dirty bomb.

    So, Feral, how’s that for a relatively harmless albiet badly convoluted mixed metaphor?

33. #33
    On June 25th, 2007 at 10:00 pm, feralcat said:

    Fellow cat, if I had wanted to express a “racial prejudice” or “stereotype” against Mexicans, who are not even a race, I would have said “follow the burrito wrappers and empty taco sauce bottles”, or something like that.

    Frankly, I can’t see Rick Moran’s, who sounds like he has the “keys to the house”, point at all.

    It makes no sense to me.

    Maybe he will do me the courtesy of explaining.

34. #34
    On June 25th, 2007 at 10:07 pm, feralcat said:

    Mr_Conservative_Cat “So, Feral, how’s that for a relatively harmless albiet badly convoluted mixed metaphor?”

    Well you had just better hope that it is not misinterpreted or you may have a shoe thrown at you and be threatened with being dumped out in the alley too.

35. #35
    On June 25th, 2007 at 10:18 pm, SirKnob said:

    In 1995 they, under the direction of Al Gore’s office, attempted to clear the backlogs and added 1.1 million people to the voter roles just in time for the 1996 election. Of course, voter registration booths were placed right outside the naturalization office.
    Problem, 180,000 new citizens did not undergo background checks. Thousands of criminals in the mix, murderers, drug dealers, child molesters, all new citizens just in time to vote democrat. They are all still here and legal. Though Al Gore and his entire staff refused to testify in the congressional investigation. He did offer 16 ‘writen’ answers to the 42 ‘written’ questions asked by the congressional investigators. They all had the same answer ‘I don’t recall’.

36. #36
    On June 26th, 2007 at 12:26 am, puhiawa said:

    Bush is living in a dream world, the GOP has been bribed. This legislation is as bad as it gets in the entire history of the Nation. This one may destroy us. But we are too stupid to understand the deep thinking of people who live in gated communities, hand their illegal weapons to peons who follow them, exchange free stamps for money, have insurance for life, and despise their voters, and think they are royalty.

37. #37
    On June 26th, 2007 at 1:31 am, Mr_Conservative_Cat said:

    “But we are too stupid to understand the deep thinking of people who live in gated communities, hand their illegal weapons to peons who follow them, exchange free stamps for money, have insurance for life, and despise their voters, and think they are royalty.”

    That’s a great point and would make a terrific UTube Ad, and I hope someone does it, fast. The talking heads on the hill don’t have to worry about not being able to feed their families because the illigal immigrants here are working for slave wages – those talking heads are above it all in their Georgetown townhouses. Kind of like the Kennedy’s and their opinion about windmill power – great, as long as it doesn’t block their view.

    There used to be an old political rallying cry: Throw the bums out. With leadership on both sides of the political fence waffling, it looks like this truly is the bunch to throw out in our generation.

    Feral: I wasn’t taking aim at you, just offering a little diploatic advice (which may seem like Hitler offering sensitivity training, I know, but erring on the side of caution in these times of upheaval seems prudent to say the least.)

38. #38
    On June 26th, 2007 at 6:22 am, Rick Moran said:

    Feral Cat:

    There was nothing at all “clear” about your metaphor. It could very well have been misconstrued as ConCat implied.

    As for your other posts – you are apt to use stereotypes to describe illegal aliens. All I’m asking is that you be aware of it and be careful in what you write.

39. #39
    On June 26th, 2007 at 9:28 am, DaleC said:

    feral cat
    I thought your metaphor was very clever but only after you explained it did I understand what it meant . I guess you can’t assume that everyone is as well informed or on the same page.

40. #40
    On June 26th, 2007 at 12:03 pm, citizen said:

41. #41
    On June 26th, 2007 at 12:03 pm, citizen said:

    The simple solution:

42. #42
    On June 26th, 2007 at 12:58 pm, feralcat said:

    Rick Moran said:

    “Feral Cat:

    There was nothing at all “clear” about your metaphor. It could very well have been misconstrued as ConCat implied.

    As for your other posts – you are apt to use stereotypes to describe illegal aliens. All I’m asking is that you be aware of it and be careful in what you write.

    Unlike some metaphors that I have used elsewhere on occasion that are maybe a little obtuse, I thought that both of these were very straight forward metaphors [chicken bones = Tysons Foods, lettuce = agri-business, BTW, I think that Tysons Foods and much of agri-business are fair game as they are using and likely abusing illegal employees - do you disagree with that?], but I am given to and like using metaphors, perhaps you are not and don’t. You should try them sometimes as they can say a lot in a few words.

    As for your accusation of “you are apt to use stereotypes to describe illegal aliens”, I would sure be interested in knowing specifically where you think I did that. Maybe if you pointed it out I could better understand why you are impugning my character.

    That’s all I’m asking.

    Perhaps you are apt at being a little fast on the draw to condemn someone?

43. #43
    On June 26th, 2007 at 1:01 pm, feralcat said:

    Thanks DaleC, at least someone understands cats!!!

    You are a mensch.

44. #44
    On June 26th, 2007 at 10:26 pm, Conservatives R Us said:

    This is one issue that has been really bugging me since I read about it. It’s a hard thing to swallow, that the backlog is incredibly long, and rather than attempt to clear it up, which intelligent and most people would do, our government wants to add to the confusion and mess of it, and pay the people no mind whatsoever. It is just appalling.