The odd thing is that the worst enemies of American culture specifically state that they will utilize our very own freedoms and culture to destroy what we hold dear, yet we don’t seem to take them seriously. We are slowly letting this happen and if it doesn’t stop, this country and its unique culture -will- collapse.

Extremists of our faith have also recently used violence to get their point across (remember Ireland?) so I believe we must have look at the issue from a macro view to truly understand it.

I currently live in South America and travel frequently to Colombia which is ripe with terrorism (so much so that it hardly ever makes the news in the states). One could use similar arguments as you have to extrapolate that Catholics are the cause for terrorism in the region but it too would be invalid.

I still disagree with your thesis that Muslims across the board are a evil and hateful due to their religion. Killers kill for many reasons and we must look to ending the validation of their justifications (religion, political, financial, mental, etc) we could add up all of the homicides across the globe and see that a Global War on Road Rage and Convenience Store holdups would be equally justified.

I thank you and respect your opinion and look forward to continued discourse.

DO you consider everyone that you disagree with a troll?

Negative, just trolls like you.

You should thank Tantor for having the patience to effectively articulate the facts for your benefit. I hope you see the light at some point.

Everyone is free to advocate any silly damned thing they please in America but making your argument with violence is a different matter entirely. One of the differences between American Christians and Muslims is that Christians do not seek to impose their views through beheadings and bombings. Christian doctrine is pacifist while Muslim doctrine is violent. It is false to assert they are morally equivalent.

Mohammad created Islam, so therefore set it’s standards. A radical Muslim would be someone who repudiated Mohammad’s teachings and examples, not followed them.

I think many of your points in post #49 are valid however I believe that there are many within the Christian community who vocally advocate the removal of the division between church and state. While I agree that there is much good that can come from this from a social services view, our regulation based upon religious values has several blatant issues

For example I am completly against abortion but do not believe it is the state’s job to mandate and/or enforce this. It is our job as Christians to provide the moral guidance to our children neighbors, friends and family to raise their value levels.

Sean, Muslims deserve our criticism not only for the minority who actively make war on the world, not only for the largely minority who directly support them, but also for the majority who passively support them.

When is the last time you saw Muslims demonstrate against terror? A couple years ago, a local Muslim lawyer here in DC tried to get an anti-terror rally going but could only draw fifty people. The local mosques and Muslim organizations criticized him for doing it. He said that the mosques don’t actively condemn Islamic terror because they agree with its object, to bring about a sharia state in America and the West.

Meanwhile, last summer I saw with my own eyes a demonstration in support of Hezbollah that drew at least five thousand Muslims in Lafayette Park across from the White House. That’s the Hezbollah that claims that its advantage is that it loves death more than the West loves life, that they don’t want to make deals with us but eliminate us.

When 5000 Muslims turn out to rally for the Islamic terrorists but only 50 Muslims rally against Islamic terror, that tells me that Muslims support terror by a hundred to one ratio.

You might ask your friend why Wahhabi hate literature appears in every mosque in America, while 80% of American mosques have been radicalized.

You are being naive to think that the majority of American Muslims are against Islamic terror. Most of them think it would be great to overturn democracy for sharia law. A significant minority of American Muslims reject the idea that Muslims perpetrated Sep 11. Quiz your Muslim pals a bit more closely and you’ll find out that they believe a lot of extreme nonsense.

It’s not just a few extremists hijacking a religion, it’s the whole religion that is at fault. Mohammed set an example of robbing camel caravans, assassinating critics, launching jihad against tribes without provocation, and mass-murdering hostages. Mohammed is considered the perfect Muslim, his behavior considered exemplary. It’s hardly a surprise when Muslims follow his example by skyjacking aircraft, assassinating critics of Islam, perpetrating terror campaigns on innocent people, and making snuff videos of infidel hostages being beheaded. They are perfecly following Mohammed’s perfect example. And that is the problem with Islam. It’s morality is evil.

A troll is someone who posts babble and insults people not one who posts their opinion. DO you consider everyone that you disagree with a troll?

Rick Moran: “Sometimes, I don’t know whether to laugh at your simplistic understanding of Muslims or tear out my hair at your gross stereotyping.”

Quite frankly, you are the ignorant one here, posing as informed when you haven’t done your homework.

Rick Moran: “For God’s sake, the Gulf states including the Saudis lend and borrow hundreds of millions of dollars every day! No modern nation on earth can survive without the international banking system. It doesn’t matter what your limited understanding of Sharia law allows or disallows. That’s because it, like all things religious be they in the Bible, the Koran, or any other sacred text, is open to interpretation. And countries like Saudi Arabia, the Emirites, Indonesia, and other Muslim states choose to interpret the Koran differently.”

Instead of a national bank, the Saudis have a Monetary Agency. Instead of interest, the Saudis charge administrative fees. While they are forced to resort to euphemisms such as this, these religious restrictions on making loans severely handicaps their economy and society. You may notice that Riyadh is not exactly the banking capital of the world, nor is any Muslim nation. Islam is their main handicap in developing a real banking system that makes real loans freely to develop real wealth.

Rick Moran: “By the way, the Bible also prohibits usury but that hasn’t stopped US credit card companies from charging 22% on purchases.”

You are drawing a false moral equivalence here in that Christians are not demanding a theocracy based on the Bible while Muslims are demanding theocracies based on the Koran. The Christian churches respect a division between religion and state while Islam seeks to tear down any such division. You might also notice that Muslims seek to propagate their view through violence.