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1. #1
   On July 1st, 2007 at 6:21 am, jamesgreenidge said:

   Waiting for the Parades Against Violence from “Moderate” Muslims”

   Why does Mayor Livingstone think it’s his role to defend a community that hasn’t peeped squat about any of these attacks? I have been GREATLY disturbed since before 9/11 by the virtual silence of the greater Muslim communities both here and abroad. For a people whose countries we liberated from tyrants I expected PARADES of thank-yous from Islamic communities in Detriot and New Jersey that never came. I’m especially dismayed by the lack of gratitude by Islamic women for our actions over there freeing them from caveman-type religious zealots. We have to seriously reflect the ramifications of their unwillingness to express outrage at terrorist violence and any gratitude for our shedding blood to liberate their homelands.

   James Greenidge
   Quuens, NY

2. #2
   On July 1st, 2007 at 6:52 am, zorro said:

   Exactly why would Mayor Livingstone take such a stand? Has political correctness gone that mad; does he view radical Muslims as some sort of power base for his political future? If so, that would be like trying to ride the back of tiger!

   I wonder if he acts like Prince Charles, wearing arab garb after hours, pretending to be Lawrence of Arabia or something?

3. #3
   On July 1st, 2007 at 7:01 am, RedWinged Blackbird said:

   “They have played a good and active and growing role in creating a multi-cultural society,” he added.

   Definitely active. Good? Not so much. The growing part might be debatable if the martyrdom rate exceeds the birth rate.

4. #4
   On July 1st, 2007 at 8:19 am, Largs said:

   Britain, as is most of Europe, is lost.
   Political Correctness and socialism are now so entrenched in the day to day life of that once proud people that it would not surprise me to see some of them defend the “rights” of the terrorists to blow up things as it is considered part of their religion.

5. #5
   On July 1st, 2007 at 8:19 am, rfbarker said:

   On the face of it, sure, the average Muslim in Britain is not the threat. But obviously there is some undetermined number of British Muslims who are, and they use the rest of their community as living shields. They show contempt for their fellow Muslims insofar as they don’t embrace radical Islam. What I’d love to see is someone come up with a plan for dealing with this threat without curtailing civil liberties. Red Ken’s open invitation to the worst and most dangerous, sharia-demanding elements of Islam is the wrong answer, but about what you’d expect from a left wing nut.

6. #6
   On July 1st, 2007 at 8:20 am, gfchicago said:

   London Mayor Ken Livingstone called on Britons Saturday not to demonize Muslims after a double car bomb plot was foiled in the capital, amid fears of a Islamist terror threat…”In this city, Muslims are more likely to be law-abiding than non-Muslims and less likely to support the use of violence to achieve political ends than non-Muslims,” he told BBC Radio. “They have played a good and active and growing role in creating a multi-cultural society,” he added.
   ****************************************

   Sure just like all of the illegal aliens in our country are just hardworking individuals looking for a better life for their familys.

   All of this Political Correctness is going to destroy Western Civilization as we know it.

   What happened to common sense?

7. #7
   On July 1st, 2007 at 8:28 am, jbirish said:

   Just another Socialist fool.

8. #8
   On July 1st, 2007 at 8:29 am, schratboy said:

   Any culture that believes ‘beans and toast’ is an acceptable foodstuff has already admitted defeat.

9. #9
   On July 1st, 2007 at 8:57 am, almeehan said:

   Michelle is up early today and faithfully shedding light on a very dark world. The demons have the left completely deluded to believe & pontificate the multicultural is good lie.

10. #10
    On July 1st, 2007 at 9:00 am, Boomer said:

    A useful idiot dragging a city I once enjoyed to visit into the Dark Ages to bad it is now off the menu. I also promised my wife we would both visit Scotland in our life time, but unless something changes drastically that too will be another part of the world we consider off-limits. Until Europe fixes its Muslim invasion we will be spending our vacation dollars in the good old USA (so must to see, so much to do from sea to shining sea). Now if we could only find someone elected or appointed to a position of responsibility to take the lead and fix our illegal alien invasion.

11. #11
    On July 1st, 2007 at 9:08 am, Gabe said:

    Unity is far better than “multiculturalism.” They preach “multiculturalism” so much in the schools in Europe and here that many don’t even know what these definitions mean.

    A “multiracial” society is positive, as long as there is unity in appreciation of capitalism, Christianity, and the West.

    A “multicultural” society is the opposite. It is divisive and has never succeeded anywhere in history. So it is not surprising Leftists preach it constantly. It is the best way to destroy capitalism and our Western heritage they so hate.

12. #12
    On July 1st, 2007 at 9:32 am, MasterGuns said:

    Multiculturalism is a disease. The Islamic world understands this. Unfortunately, the rest of us apparently do not.

    I agree that a multi-racial society is desirable(I am of mixed heritage….Korean and European it says on my birth certificate). I was adopted by a Marine and his wife at Pusan in 1950. That said, Americans cannot afford to allow our culture to die on the altar of the PC loons.

    The left will never understand that some cultures simply deserve to die. On second thought, maybe they do understand. After all, they have been trying to destroy AMERICAN culture for years.

    Semper Fi

13. #13
    On July 1st, 2007 at 10:23 am, ThackerAgency said:

    I wish he didn’t feel a need to actually SAY that. I understand not actively telling people to retaliate, but he doesn’t need to say ANYTHING.

    I’m sure there were protests in the streets by these ‘good’ muslims when the Queen knighted Salman Rushdie. WHERE ARE THOSE PROTESTS NOW FOR MUSLIMS KILLING IN THE NAME OF THEIR RELIGION? Supposedly offending and distorting their religion?

    I was happy with the Blair comments this morning (I read that first) but now this comment just punches me in the gut again.

14. #14
    On July 1st, 2007 at 10:33 am, changjin89 said:

    Sunday morning greetings Mrs. Malkin and loyal community. Let me offer my “Here, here and well said!” to “Gabe” msg #11. Indeed, many legal immigrants (those who “got in line” and achieved residency and citizenship by the rules) are amongst those who best appreciate our capitalist, Christian, “Western” heritage. By virtue of their family-nourishing workaday lives they counter the national moral damage wrought by some of the most prominent (and alas, native-born) elements and combinations in Manhattan, San Francisco, Hollywood and other hothouses.

15. #15
    On July 1st, 2007 at 11:07 am, USMCgramma said:

    I do not know any Muslims and was surprised to hear Marvin Kalb say they have assimilated very well in America and even cooperate by providing information … really? The current terrorists have bungled their missions, but we must never forget the sight of those airplanes flying into the Twin Towers, Pentagon and a field. In my opinion, the videos should be shown every single day – would that scare children more than the phony threat of global warming being forced on them?

16. #16
    On July 1st, 2007 at 11:26 am, OneofThem said:

    Wow, that mayor sure is “religionist”. Someone’s majorly deluded. I think he’s been talking to Rose O a little too much and believes that Christians are more likely to blow themselves up in the middle of a crowded street than Muslims.

    Guess what? We Christians believe that killing yourself in that way will most likely reward you with a one-way ticket to Hell. Who’s the deluded whackjob now?

17. #17
    On July 1st, 2007 at 11:29 am, Laree said:

    Ayn Rand, years back wrote about Multiculturism and when I have mentioned to people I read Rand, I get told then your a racist. If you want to discuss the subject “Multiculturism” your called ugly names like Racist or Bigot…but heres the thing when you over use a word(s) Racist & Bigot, especially in the public square eventually those words are going to loose their power. My message to the Left, the backlash coming is going to curl your hair. I believe that the Socialist have taken a tack, from the Terrorist Handbook- the enemy of my enemy is my friend. I don’t believe Socialist, have a sense of self preservation.

18. #18
    On July 1st, 2007 at 11:41 am, Defector01 said:

    Can Scotland Yard arrest Red Ken as well by chance?

19. #19
    On July 1st, 2007 at 12:22 pm, Rob Taylor said:

    The funny part about the article is that it mentions the I.R.A. bombings. The I.R.A. are ironically a marxist organization. Maybe Red Ken sides with the Muslims because he remembers the good old days…

20. #20
    On July 1st, 2007 at 12:32 pm, greenfairie said:

    He may as well call himself the Caliph of Londonistan.

    It’s irritating how every time something like this happens, the usual complaint groups start griping as though they’re the victims and the usual knucklehead politicians rush out to make the usual apologist statements.

21. #21
    On July 1st, 2007 at 1:13 pm, sharinlite said:

    How much longer will America have to survive before we end up with absolute hateful imbeciles like these. I mean with Reid, Pelosi, Paul and Kucinch we’re almost there. Pray to some deity it doesn’t ever become a reality here.

22. #22
    On July 1st, 2007 at 1:15 pm, katieanne said:

    I think a better word for “jihadi apologist” is jihadi supporter.

23. #23
    On July 1st, 2007 at 2:00 pm, sheik_rattle_n_roll said:

    …”In this city, Muslims are more likely to be law-abiding than non-Muslims and less likely to support the use of violence to achieve political ends than non-Muslims,” he told BBC Radio.

    Does he have statistics to back this up? I’d love to see them, ’cause it sounds like total rubbish to me.

24. #24
    On July 1st, 2007 at 2:15 pm, lgm said:

    This post is the kind of post that gives Malkin a bad name. The Mayor of London is demonized for trying to prevent a backlash against Muslims in Britain. We have sophomoric name calling “Dhimmi” (implying that he’s a member of the US Democratic party) and “red Ken” (implying that he’s a Soviet style Communist). The comment thread does Malkin one better, essentially saying the only good Muslim is a dead one. The whole thing is dripping in Christian virtue. Do you still think “they” hate “us” because they hate our freedom?

25. #25
    On July 1st, 2007 at 2:27 pm, corona said:

    For the clueless lgm:

    Telling the truth is not demonizing.

    Ken made a couple of assertions with no evidence to back them up. On the contrary, we know that a substantial portion of the Muslim community in the UK (and elsewhere) beleves that terrorist attacks like those of the past few days can be just.

26. #26
    On July 1st, 2007 at 2:39 pm, Rob Taylor said:

    The mayor using soviet style Communist tactics, by attacking the “right wing” to distract people from seeing how bad the problem in London is and to protect his allies who helped get him elected. Hate crimes against Jews and Homosexuals are up, Londoners are calling for Salman Rushdie to be put to death and now car bomb attacks.

    I’m not a Christian myself, so I’m not pretending to have Christian virtues when I say the only good Muslim is one who respects western civilization, doesn’t support violent Jihad and stands shoulder to shoulder with us in condeming these attacks.

27. #27
    On July 1st, 2007 at 3:03 pm, anthsco said:

    Feh…you get what you ask for when you are being a good dhimmi. his constant pandering has allowed these perpetually angry spoiled brats to think that they already own London and England.

28. #28
    On July 1st, 2007 at 3:29 pm, Brian72 said:

    All this focus on a supposed “backlash” is a distraction from the real issue, which is Islamic terror.

    If there were to be a “backlash”, then it’s presence implies a problem that is being lashed back at. So, you cannot cry about a backlash and then say there is no threat, because no threat, no backlash.

    The threat does exist. And a backlash is well deserved against violent, intolerant extremists. What all this fear of a “backlash” tells me is leftists do not want to resist when it’s called for.

    The real threat to leftist fools is a free society reacting to deliberate provocation from totalitarian killers.

    The “sleeping dragon” quote from Admiral Yammamoto after Pearl Harbor still applies today, but the leftists feel that all that righteous anger we all felt after our generation’s Pearl Harbor moment must be squashed, lest America might be roused to use it’s “hyperpower” to defend itself, as in the old days.

    Hence the scarcity of broadcasting the 9-11 footage, outside of Fox News Channel, which re-airs their excellent coverage of that day every anniversery of 9-11.

    Let me quote some of the attitude we need today against these barbarians.
    You know the source I’m sure:)

    “Blood, Toil, Tears and Sweat”

    “I would say to the House, as I said to those who have joined this Government, I have nothing to offer but blood, toil, tears and sweat. We have before us an ordeal of the most grievous kind. We have before us many long months of toil and struggle.

    “You ask what is our policy. I will say, it is to wage war with all our might, with all the strength that God can give us, to wage war against a monstrous tyranny never surpassed in the dark, lamentable catalogue of human crime.

    “You ask what is our aim? I can answer in one word: Victory. Victory at all costs. Victory in spite of all terror. Victory however long and hard the road may be. For without victory there is no survival.”

    —First speech as Prime Minister, House of Commons, 13 May 1940. Churchillfirst used the phrase “blood and sweat” in 1900; “Blood, sweat and tears” came together in his 1939 article, “Can FrancoRestore Unity and Strength to Spain.”

    “Never Surrender”

    “We shall not flag or fail. We shall go on to the end. We shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air. We shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be. We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing-grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills. We shall never surrender!”

    —House of Commons, 4 June 1940, following the evacuation of British and French armies from Dunkirkas the German tide swept through France.

29. #29
    On July 1st, 2007 at 5:41 pm, Rick Moran said:

    LGM:

    The Mayor of London is demonized for trying to prevent a backlash against Muslims in Britain.

    That’s a laugh. Red Ken (called “Red Ken” because he is an avowed socialist) could care less about “backlash.” What he cares about is sel-aggrandizing, self promotion – something he is very good at.

    The comment thread does Malkin one better, essentially saying the only good Muslim is a dead one.

    Perhaps you can define “essentially saying” when there isn’t a single comment on this thread that says “the only good muslim is a dead one.”

    Not one. And if your powers of gleaning people’s intent from what they write is that good, perhaps you could set up shop as a psychic.

    And FYI – we’ve already banned several people for expressing those exact sentiments.

    Do you still think “they” hate “us” because they hate our freedom?

    Simplistic? Yes. But one might say that it isn’t so much our freedoms they hate but what those freedoms represent; modernity. The 21st century west. And they are at war with their own unrealized expectations of what Islam should mean in the modern world.

    Perhaps the next time you won’t make wildly exaggerated charges and ill informed observations about the comments here. I would suggest you try and be a little more careful in the future.

30. #30
    On July 1st, 2007 at 6:07 pm, general company said:

    Very good post in this thread,

    lgm: Do you still think “they” hate “us” because they hate our freedom?

    Yes, if not that then what? Get a grip, if their was a pronounced backlash I bet we would see a whole lot less of this nonsense. Plus you would force the moderate Muslims to take sides, witch very few do now.
    The political correctness has crippled our ability to combat these monsters on many levels

31. #31
    On July 1st, 2007 at 6:10 pm, general company said:

    To be clear, by “backlash” I am not suggesting violence of any kind.

32. #32
    On July 1st, 2007 at 6:14 pm, general company said:

    I believe I just politically corrected myself ? Good grief

33. #33
    On July 1st, 2007 at 6:34 pm, Brian72 said:

    Here are a couple more quotes from WC:

    “Captain of Our Souls”

    “The mood of Britain is wisely and rightly averse from every form of shallow or premature exultation. This is no time for boasts or glowing prophecies, but there is this—a year ago our position looked forlorn, and well nigh desperate, to all eyes but our own. Today we may say aloud before an awe-struck world, ‘We are still masters of our fate. We still are captain of our souls.’”

    —House of Commons, 9 September 1941

    “Never Give In”

    “This is the lesson: never give in, never give in, never, never, never, never—in nothing, great or small, large or petty—never give in except to convictions of honour and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy.”

    —HarrowSchool, 29 October 1941. It is commonly believed that Churchillstood up, gave the three-word speech, “Never give in!,” and sat down. This is incorrect, as is the suggestion, variously reported, that the speech occurred at Oxfordor Cambridge. It was on his first visit to his old school, Harrow, where he would continue to return for the annual “Songs,” making his last appearance in 1961.

34. #34
    On July 1st, 2007 at 7:10 pm, Martin said:

    Red Ken is gay. He’d be stoned or hanged or beheaded if his heroes were in charge.

    I wonder if he knows.

35. #35
    On July 1st, 2007 at 7:38 pm, lgm said:

    general company said:

    lgm: Do you still think “they” hate “us” because they hate our freedom?

    Yes, if not that then what?

    This is a great question. You could ask those who hate us, bin Laden for example. He says (1) we support repressive governments in Arab countries — Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Egypt. (2) We support Israel.

36. #36
    On July 1st, 2007 at 7:53 pm, USMCgramma said:

    Saw the movie “Ghandi” on TCM this afternoon. To paraphrase part of his philosophy: Assassination is not as evil as justifying it in the name of religion.

37. #37
    On July 1st, 2007 at 8:49 pm, Brian72 said:

    This is a great question. You could ask those who hate us, bin Laden for example. He says (1) we support repressive governments in Arab countries — Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Egypt. (2) We support Israel.

    Do you suppose that if the U.S. stopped doing those two things tomorrow, that they would stop hating us?

    I do not. If we stopped supporting those Arab governments, they would be ripe for Islamist takeover, giving the jihadis an even stronger position from which to continue their quest for a world submitting to sharia law, or a global Taliban government with themselves calling the shots.

    Do you think jihadi maniacs can be deterred like the Soviet Union when they take over Pakistan and the nukes they already have?
    I do not. The first thing they will want to do is SET ONE OFF, to prove that Allah is serious about wiping out the infidels (that’s me and you).

    Where might the first jihad nuke be set off? Here are a few realistic choices:

    Tel Aviv
    Washington, DC
    New York City
    New Dheli
    London
    Paris
    Berlin
    Rome
    Athens
    Copenhagen
    Vienna
    Brussels
    Tokyo
    Manila
    Bangkok

    You get the idea?

38. #38
    On July 1st, 2007 at 8:52 pm, Brian72 said:

    forgot Moscow, the jihadis are pretty upset about the whole Chechnya thing

39. #39
    On July 1st, 2007 at 9:06 pm, general company said:

    lgm said: bin Laden for example. He says (1) we support repressive governments in Arab countries — Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Egypt. (2) We support Israel.

    They create repressive governments, unless of course you find the Taliban just fine. Not to mention the many that are much worst then the light weights you suggested. And yes we support Israel, so is that justification?

40. #40
    On July 1st, 2007 at 9:15 pm, Cricket said:

    LGM,
    ‘Dhimmi’ is a term Muslims use in reference to those they conquer, like Dhimmi Catarrh…

    Carmeron Dhimmiaz, Rosie O’ Dhimmel, etc.

    But I digress.

41. #41
    On July 1st, 2007 at 9:41 pm, ThackerAgency said:

    igm I hate to pile on here but.

    Why talk about something as though it has happened? I would think it IMPLIED that nobody wants anything to happen to anyone innocent.

    He should have said ‘I hope that there are no copycat bombings from those people who want to kill innocent civilians due to a perceived injustice.’

    Instead, he made the TERRIFIED public into the villain – while at the same time made many who sympathize with the criminals into victims before any such ‘backlash’ event happened.

    There won’t be a backlash. He shouldn’t have characterized it this way.

42. #42
    On July 1st, 2007 at 11:15 pm, sheik_rattle_n_roll said:

    We have sophomoric name calling “Dhimmi” (implying that he’s a member of the US Democratic party)–lgm

    Nice job showing you have no clue what the word “dhimmi” means. Few things are funnier than liberal trolls exposing their ignorance like that. Thanks for the laugh.

43. #43
    On July 2nd, 2007 at 1:00 am, hadsil said:

    Mayor of London – Cornelius Fudge

44. #44
    On July 2nd, 2007 at 3:19 am, DirkBelig said:

    We have sophomoric name calling “Dhimmi” (implying that he’s a member of the US Democratic party)

    That this bozo doesn’t even know what “dhimmi” means makes the rest of his drooling spewage even less worthy of consideration and/or rebuttal. Of course, if he did know what it meant, he’d probably react with a cheerful, “That doesn’t sound so bad. It would be an honor to pay the jizya to such fine masters!”

45. #45
    On July 2nd, 2007 at 9:26 am, schratboy said:

    A liberal is a liberal whether British or America and both are just as dangerous.

46. #46
    On July 2nd, 2007 at 10:18 am, RogersUmp said:

    I’m especially dismayed by the lack of gratitude by Islamic women for our actions over there freeing them from caveman-type religious zealots.

    Now we have James Greenridge #1 offending cavemen!! Jeesh!

47. #47
    On July 2nd, 2007 at 11:01 am, Independent Conservative said:

    Let it be known, those Westerners who defend the Muslims are paid by them, pure and simple.

    The clearest example of all:

    George W. bush.

    Paid by whom?

    By the Saudis.

48. #48
    On July 2nd, 2007 at 2:12 pm, bipartisancomplainer said:

    lgm sounds like a nut. There’s a very easy way for Muslims to protect themselves against a backlash. Don’t support terrorism.