NAACP chief compares Hurricane Katrina aftermath to “lynching”

By Michelle Malkin  •  July 8, 2007 10:08 PM

Update: Video of Bond’s speech here.

NAACP chief Julian Bond capped off a Bush-bashing convention address with a rather unhinged comparison:

NAACP National Board Chair Julian Bond said Sunday that the civil rights organization is needed now more than ever because the Bush Administration has done little to support blacks.

From the administration’s slow response to Hurricane Katrina to the war in Iraq and immigration issues, Bush has seen his presidency questioned, Bond told an estimated 3,000 people during a public meeting in Detroit.

“The extent of the repudiation, it was evident late last month when the immigration reform bill, the centerpiece of the administration’s domestic legislative hopes, died in the Senate,” Bond said during a nearly 47-minute speech. “On the procedural vote that determined the bill’s fate, only 12 of the Senate’s 49 Republicans stood with the President. When Bush came to shove, his own party members shoved back.”

Bond’s speech was the opening address of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People’s 98th Annual Convention, which ends Thursday…

Bond said the possibility that New Orleans’ Lower 9th Ward, ravaged by Hurricane Katrina, will never be rebuilt is comparable to a “lynching.”

“It can be said that Katrina, like lynching, not only destroyed the work of generations in a single day, but is resulting in a deliberate effort to dispossess black landholders.”

The mostly black 9th Ward was one of the city’s most heavily damaged areas. Bond said that nearly 60 percent of its residents owned their homes compared to 47 percent of all of New Orleans.

Tinfoil rattler Spike Lee is smiling.

More:

Detroit resident Akindele Akinyemi, 32, of Detroit, said before the speech that he was curious about the direction the NAACP is taking during the next year.

“I want to find out what strategies they would use to bring younger members on board, and what issues are relevant to young adults,” he said.

New strategies? Same as the old ones: Racial demagoguery, blame deflection, and pandering to the lowest common denominator. You’d think with the NAACP in disarray, Bond might want to clean his own house first before lashing out.

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  1. #102186
    On July 8th, 2007 at 10:14 pm, southdakotaboy said:

    This is one of the more deplorable things I have heard today. Ranks right up there with the NYT article advocating allowing genocide in Iraq.
    Does it strike anyone else as funny that there is not as much MSM coverage of all the flooding in Texas?

  2. #102187
    On July 8th, 2007 at 10:19 pm, commonsensehoosier said:

    I find it astonishing that people like Bond are so clueless. Remarks such as his only divide people. It’s as though he wants African-Americans to be victims forever.

    Then again, maybe that’s what he wants.

  3. #102190
    On July 8th, 2007 at 10:30 pm, The Raging Republican said:

    I’ve come to the conclusion that the only racist people left in the United States are black people. When is the last time you saw someone from the KKK on CNN saying something racist or ignorant? But you can’t go longer then a week without hearing lunatics like Jessie Jackson and Ray Nagan making complete fools out of themselves.

    And God forbid something unfortunate happens to happen to a black person. It seems like it doesn’t even matter what it is, but if it happens to a black person they must immediately call it racism. And the next thing you know, in swoops the NAACP or the ACLU to start a lawsuit and say that the person’s civil rights have been compromised.

    We don’t live in a society anymore where black people have to sit at the back of the bus or sit at the lunch counter. We have left behind the times when black people could not get into college or get a job b/c of their skin color. The only racism that is left in our country is brought about by narrow minded blacks. No one else is racist anymore. News Flash: No one cares what color people are!

    The NAACP is a terrible shame. It does nothing to further African-Americans in our society today. It hides its head in the sand when it comes to the real issues plaguing the black community, (broken homes, teenage pregnancy, drug abuse, the ramped spread of AIDS), and plays up non-issues (Don Imus, Paris Hilton, etc.) just for the purposes of lining their pockets.

    People like Jessie Jackson, and Al Sharpton are professional racists that have made millions of dollars off of beating the drum of “I’m a victim, give me money’.

  4. #102191
    On July 8th, 2007 at 10:32 pm, ajmontana said:

    Bond is difinetly a double 00.

  5. #102192
    On July 8th, 2007 at 10:34 pm, The Raging Republican said:

    Another interesting Julian Bond Quote:

    The Bush Administration picked its judicial nominees from “the Taliban Wing of American politics”

    Source:Bernard Goldberg’s book ‘Crazies to the Left of Me, Wimps to the Right’ pg. 34

    ……So I guess you just need to consider the source when it comes to what Julian Bond says.

  6. #102194
    On July 8th, 2007 at 10:41 pm, The Raging Republican said:

    Bond told an estimated 3,000 people during a public meeting in Detroit.

    Not really a large gathering to listen to the ‘National Board Chair’

  7. #102196
    On July 8th, 2007 at 10:46 pm, Independent Conservative said:

    The Blacks need to stop blaming the whole world, especially the Whites for their unwillingness to merge in society and be part of the American dream.

    Rather they are dwelling on prejudice, on bigotry, and on hate for today’s Whites blaming them for the racism they’ve been subjected to many years ago.

    It takes courage, it takes forgiveness, it takes the will and the desire to live together as one nation, helping, loving and supporting each other regardless of race or color.

  8. #102198
    On July 8th, 2007 at 11:09 pm, Speakup said:

    Of course Mr Bond is screaming bloody murder.
    If he can’t guilt America into kowtowing what substantive argument does he have?

    Many many billions of dollars have been thrown at the race issue over the course of four decades, every single American has felt the effects of race bias legislation and the result is dismal at best.

    Every one of us should be demanding a new race policy direction, one that works toward a truly race blind society( nor did what we have ever conform to the constitution except in liberal activist courts) because the status quo isn’t acceptable, it just doesn’t work.

  9. #102200
    On July 8th, 2007 at 11:58 pm, SirKnob said:

    We could go a long way toward eliminating racism in this country if we could get rid of the haters (NAACP, ACLU, etc.).

    We will never know true equality until we begin to dwell on our similarities and not focus on our differences.

    I also find it amazing that you can only violate the civil rights of, or commit hate crimes against, a minority, a gay or criminal. The laws are not designed to protect white christian heterosexuals. To the NAACP and the ACLU, that is equality.

  10. #102201
    On July 9th, 2007 at 12:00 am, AlturaCt said:

    “The Bush Court removed black children from the law’s protection,” Bond said

    This guy is a “leader”

  11. #102202
    On July 9th, 2007 at 12:08 am, Dasoku said:

    I find it astonishing that people like Bond are so clueless. Remarks such as his only divide people. It’s as though he wants African-Americans to be victims forever.

    Then again, maybe that’s what he wants.

    If the followers of Bond, Jackson, Sharpton, and so forth, were to cast off their cloaks of victimhood and act like self-reliant individuals, where would that leave Bond and his ilk? They need victims to retain power.

    It’s that simple.

  12. #102203
    On July 9th, 2007 at 12:37 am, JoeS said:

    We just returned from vacation through the South. New Orleans is a MESS!! The Government gave those people, what, $9Billion?? Two years later, they have taken the money and split town. Plus, they re-elected Mayor Nagin.

    That qualifies as a Lynching?? Oh, that was the NAACP. Maybe they forgot what a lynching was.

  13. #102204
    On July 9th, 2007 at 12:38 am, ThackerAgency said:

    Unbelievable, but predictable. It’s the Racism Industrial Complex that must be fed so that their jobs will be safe.

    I personally don’t understand why it is the responsibility of the FEDERAL government to accomodate these people. They should have insurance if they are homeowners. It isn’t our responsibility to pay for their misfortune. If my house burned down, I wouldn’t expect a handout from the government, why should they?

    AND if I built in a flood plain that got flooded, I wouldn’t expect them to let me build back there either. . . ESPECIALLY if they gave me money. If the government gives them money to rebuild, the government should have a say on where they build, and they shouldn’t build in a flood plain.

  14. #102208
    On July 9th, 2007 at 1:26 am, get2djnow said:

    Wow! I’m shocked. I thought that Julian Bond had passed on, surely he has passed on, to irrelevance, like Rev. Al Brawley Jesse Jackson.

    Well, my prayers and hopes for a complete recovery from his neurological disorder are with him and his family. His eyesight has also clearly failed, because anyone can see that leaving all those buses in the parking lot caused actual deaths, not merely land dispossession.

  15. #102209
    On July 9th, 2007 at 1:43 am, Marshall said:

    How come you never hear “Asian Leaders” scream racism? How Come you never hear poor asian communities cry about rasism? I have a guess: they are too busy making themselves productive members of society.

  16. #102211
    On July 9th, 2007 at 1:48 am, The_Basseteer said:

    “We don’t live in a society anymore where black people have to sit at the back of the bus or sit at the lunch counter. We have left behind the times when black people could not get into college or get a job b/c of their skin color. The only racism that is left in our country is brought about by narrow minded blacks. No one else is racist anymore. News Flash: No one cares what color people are!”—The Raging Republican

    Martin Luther King’s “Dream” has come true, we are judging people by the content of their character and NOT the color of there skin. Unless they can keep racism alive the NAACP will become as relevant as the Whig party.

  17. #102213
    On July 9th, 2007 at 1:57 am, WisCon said:

    And I am supposed to take this guy seriously why?

  18. #102215
    On July 9th, 2007 at 2:05 am, Lincoln said:

    Lynch this.

  19. #102216
    On July 9th, 2007 at 2:43 am, johnv40 said:

    Do you REALLY want me to say what I think of Julian Bond?

  20. #102218
    On July 9th, 2007 at 3:18 am, puhiawa said:

    Yeah, you got a problem all right. Ignorant, crime-prone, whining black people that have no honor, sense of dignity or ability to compete in the modern world. And it is your fault.

  21. #102220
    On July 9th, 2007 at 5:08 am, The Race Card said:

    I’ve come to the conclusion that the only racist people left in the United States are black people. When is the last time you saw someone from the KKK on CNN saying something racist or ignorant? But you can’t go longer then a week without hearing lunatics like Jessie Jackson and Ray Nagan making complete fools out of themselves.

    On July 8th, 2007 at 10:30 pm, The Raging Republican said:

    This is precisely the type of response that Julian Bond needs to sustain his misguided platform.

    To completely ignore the fact that racism does still exist only fuels their arguments.

    Realistically, racism does still exist. It is not nearly as prevalent as so-called advocacy groups would have you believe. But it does exist.

    There are still “sundown towns.” There are many neighborhoods in LA where blacks are targeted for deadly violence. Skinheads do still exist (my neighbor has a swastika tattooed on his chest.)

    Also, whites are frequent victims of racial violence (Knoxville, Long Beach).

    Ironically, I submit that most black conservatives have been prejudged by whites and blacks as being “anti-white” until they open their mouths and speak their mind. If you are black, many people assume you are hypersensitive to race and a supporter of Julian Bond’s ilk.

    To deny racism is to deny reality. It’s as irrational as liberals castigating all conservatives as xenophobic, nativist or racist.

    Just because they cry wolf does not mean we should stick our heads in the sand to avoid hearing them. Conservative values lend themselves to truth and pragmatism, not reactionary emotions.

    America is the least racist country on the planet. Never let them forget that.

  22. #102223
    On July 9th, 2007 at 5:21 am, The Race Card said:

    PS. President Bush got a bad rap during Hurricane Katrina. Unfair.

    The blame belongs to those people who stayed in harm’s way, Ray Nagin and Governor Blanco.

    But, leave it to Republicans to find a way to get blamed for a natural disaster in a left-leaning city.

    Smoking the tea leaves instead of reading them…

  23. #102227
    On July 9th, 2007 at 6:22 am, Dandapani said:

    “George Bush doesn’t care about Black People!” LOL.

  24. #102228
    On July 9th, 2007 at 6:42 am, old7 said:

    “Bush Administration has done little to support blacks”? That’s part of the problem. It should never the be the role of government to “support” any group of people. It’s suppose to be the other way around.

  25. #102229
    On July 9th, 2007 at 6:57 am, jamesgreenidge said:

    Julian, Obama, Shame For Playing The Race Card!

    The race card still amazes and goads me to this day.

    What happened in New Orleans during Katerina was a breakdown in local government, inane lax preparation and above all, a total lack of civic self-reliance and pride. No conspiracy, no spiteful Bush agenda, no black weather controlling helicopters. Had Katerina smashed Mobile or Tampa or even Galveston we wouldn’t be hearing the bemoaning and wailing that the MSM have been dishing us from Orleans. Instead, as in the past, those communities would pick themselves up by the bootstraps and started clearing the rubble and helping each neighbor out block by block, not sitting out on flooded freeways or fleeing and homesteading other cities two states away. This lacking is a cultural/education attitude problem in black America, not government, not financial because low income does not automatically sow crime and civil degradation; check out many poor proud neat towns and counties in Middle America, No, let’s put the blame where the problem lies, Julian and Obama. In the black home then community. That’s where family responsibilities and civic values and community adhesion and security starts — or fails. Not in the sly malice of The White Man.

    Regrettably, far too many black Americans have been primed to whine and b–itch and pass the buck of their own largely self-perpetuated misfortunes by race hustler cheerleaders and carpetbagger preachers and progressives whose “kill ‘em with kindness” social programs have crippled the black family and black male self-esteem since Roosevelt. The black community has smuggled most all its gross mistakes, skewed values, common sense and social failings behind “the White Man did it” for generations, and the fact that most can’t decry the vile “cultural” messages of rappers to our own children nor stand to face the raw mirror that Bill Cosby has put before them shows just how deep-seated this self-pity and lack of self-reliance and self-respect is.

    Julian, Obama, you’re just another race hustler, guys.

    Disgusted as hell,
    James Greenidge
    A black Conservative former Dem
    Queens NY

  26. #102231
    On July 9th, 2007 at 7:22 am, timster said:

    Re:NAACP chief compares Hurricane Katrina aftermath to “lynching”.

    1. Let’s put Hurricane Katrina in perspective. At the end of World War II in 1945, many of European cities lay in ruins just like New Orleans did after Hurricane Katrina did in 2005. It took several years to rebuild alot of the European cities, just like it will take years to rebuild New Orleans.

    2. Before President Bush gets blamed for everything, here are some others that need to blamed:

    Friday night, August 26, 2005 before the Hurricane hit, Max Mayfield of the National Hurricane Center took the unprecedented action of calling Mayor Nagin of New Orleans and Louisiana Governor Blanco personally to plead with them to begin MANDATORY evacuation of New Orleans and they said they’d take it under consideration. This was after the NOAA buoy 240 miles south had recorded 68′ waves before it was destroyed. President Bush spent Friday afternoon and evening in meetings with his advisors and administrators drafting all of the paperwork required for a state to request federal assistance (and not be in violation of the Posse Comitatus Act or having to enact the Insurgency Act). Just before midnight Friday evening the President called Governor Blanco and pleaded with her to sign the request papers so the federal government and the military could legally begin mobilization and call up. He was told that they didn’t think it necessary for the federal government to be involved yet. After the President’s final call to the governor she held meetings with her staff to discuss the political ramifications of bringing federal forces. It was decided that if they allowed federal assistance it would make it look as if they had failed so it was agreed upon that the feds would not be invited in.

    Saturday, August 27, before the Hurricane hit, the President again called Blanco and Nagin requesting they please sign the papers requesting federal assistance, that they declare the state an emergency area, and begin mandatory evacuation. After a personal plea from the President, Mayor Nagin agreed to order an evacuation, but it would not be a full mandatory evacuation, and the governor still refused to sign the papers requesting and authorizing federal action. In frustration the President declared the area a national disaster area before the state of Louisiana did so he could legally begin some advanced preparations. Rumor has it that the President’s legal advisers were looking into the ramifications of using the insurgency act to bypass the Constitutional requirement that a state request federal aid before the federal government can move into state with troops – but that had not been done since 1906 and the Constitutionality of it was called into question to use before the disaster. Throw in As we now learn that the organizations identified in the plan were never contacted or coordinating into any planning, though the document implies that they were. The suffering people of New Orleans need to be asking some hard questions as do we all, but they better start with why Governor Blanco refused to even sign the multi-state mutual aid pack activation documents until Wednesday, August 31, which further delayed the legal deployment of National Guard from adjoining states. Or maybe ask why Mayor Nagin keeps harping that the President should have commandeered 500 Greyhound busses to help him when according to his own emergency plan and documents he claimed to have over 500 busses at his disposal to use between the local school busses and the city transportation busses – but he never raised a finger to prepare them or activate them.

  27. #102232
    On July 9th, 2007 at 7:27 am, ajmontana said:

    Anyone know what the 3000 attendee’s reaction was to this windbag’s whinning was by chance?

  28. #102233
    On July 9th, 2007 at 7:34 am, gregorystephens said:

    The biggest problem with this type of rhetoric is that the younger generation hears how they are victims and how anything bad that happens to them is always someone else’s fault. So, these children grow up with a feeling of defeat and helplessness. This in turn leads to more hate and discontent. The message should be that they shouldn’t let anyone or anything stand in the way of their dreams and with hard work and dedication, anything is possible. But, unfortunately, this type of message doesn’t rile up the masses and open up the wallets and keep these race panderers on T.V.

  29. #102234
    On July 9th, 2007 at 8:06 am, olsantaroy said:

    As others have commented, the NAACP is irrelevant today as proven by having Julan Bond as chair. He is just as radical as ever, maturity has not occurred, just aging. James Greenidge is spot on in his assessment. I wish MLK could come back just to comment on the so-called leaders of the black community of today. What a crowd! Several commenters have put the bash on Obama. Is he really speaking Nagin talk?

  30. #102240
    On July 9th, 2007 at 8:35 am, BOB said:

    On July 9th, 2007 at 6:57 am, jamesgreenidge said:
    Julian, Obama, Shame For Playing The Race Card!

    The race card still amazes and goads me to this day.

    Thank you Mr. Greenidge and the best to you. Your entire post makes perfect sense.

  31. #102241
    On July 9th, 2007 at 8:51 am, Chief RZ said:

    I met Julian in 1966. He was passing himself off as a logical man, just wanting a fair chance. This comment is was above the board. The NAACP lost it’s credibility in 1975 and in 2001. So long to one “legitimate” racist organization.

  32. #102242
    On July 9th, 2007 at 9:00 am, chow said:

    I read somewhere that blacks are the largest racial demographic entering rising to the middle class. This is desperate times for race baiting organizations like the NAACP. With an ever increasing numbers of their constituents getting their share of the American dream, it is quite difficult for the race baiters such as bond, jackson, and sharpton to find disenfranchised members to exploit. So they have been reduced to making baseless accusations to keep there base agitated.

  33. #102244
    On July 9th, 2007 at 9:03 am, derel3433 said:

    I wonder if some of our more strident rhetoric during the recent immigration debates was worrisome to black people?

  34. #102247
    On July 9th, 2007 at 9:13 am, DaleC said:

    As long as the government gives away money everytime the race card is played ,of course , they are going to use it . Face it , with some exceptions, racism is taught . I am so sick of minorities getting special treatment because of something that happened before my grandparents were born.
    I am not generalizing here . There are many successful black people who think this wrong . Hard work and a little ambition will create the same result no matter what color your skin is .
    Why was Mississppi able to distribute the federal funds without a hitch but not Louisiana ? I know New Orleans got the worst of this but local corruption
    is to blame this time not whitey .
    I wish people would stop making me stick up for Bush.

  35. #102252
    On July 9th, 2007 at 9:22 am, josetheguerilla said:

    The civil rights move is over. The Bill was signed in 1964. Since then? These civil right organizations just make matters worse by lying to their own people. All this whining and crying about the Bush Administration doesn’t do any good. They had how long to fix this mess? The group was founded in 1909. You would think after almost 100 years they would be able to get their act together. What about eight years of Clinton? Why didn’t he fix all your problems? Republicans have always done the most for black America. One example of this is the republican known as Abraham Lincoln. Most southern democrats voted against the civil rights bill of 1964. Including Democrat Robert “KKK” Byrd. Black America, you’re being lied to.

  36. #102260
    On July 9th, 2007 at 9:52 am, misterbee241 said:

    In reply to the raging republican, I agree, and race pimps like Jackson, Conyers, Sharpton and Bond have to keep this pot boiling to keep the bucks coming in.
    After all, I doubt very seriously if any of them could make an honest living doing anything else.

  37. #102262
    On July 9th, 2007 at 9:58 am, Dr. Lead Based Paint said:

    While Democrats are racists, I really don’t think God is a racist.

  38. #102270
    On July 9th, 2007 at 10:14 am, EdDantes said:

    Two comments:

    What would the black community’s response be to a formation of the National Association for the Advancement of White People (not a KKK organization, but something similar to NAACP)? To the creation of scholarships that could only be recieved by white students? To legislation that is inacted to give mortgage and tax breaks to white homeowners? To legislation that gave white students an advantage to get into college just because of their skin color?

    Secondly, racism definitely exists in this country, but it seems, now, to be perpetuated by minority groups. While we’ve seen Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton doing this for years, we now have to watch out for similar tactics from hispanics and muslims who are forming similar groups with the sole intention of bettering life for people of a particular race or religion, therefore creating an increasing polarized racial atmosphere in America.

    I’m not obtuse enough to suggest that everyone will buy into the concept, their are always radicals and extremists, but Americans (white, black, latino, muslim, asian, etc) need to put their collective foot down and demand a stop to the formation and platforms of these activitst groups that do nothing but fragment our society.

  39. #102272
    On July 9th, 2007 at 10:32 am, JWS said:

    The train has left the station. If blacks want to remain perpetual victims, I say let them…

  40. #102278
    On July 9th, 2007 at 10:43 am, taylork said:

    I’d like Mr. Bond to explain what 40 years of failed Democrat policy in urban areas that has resulted in poverty, drug use, and crime compares to…oh wait, the Democrats are exempt from this type of criticism.

    …though I will say this, it really is time to start getting the urban vote. If the Democrats can get votes based on the Iraq war, which has been unpopular for only a few years, why can’t Republicans actually put some resources into urban areas like New Orleans, Baltimore, or Philadelphia (areas that have been ravaged for the last 40 years), and actually try to get the vote? If Harry Reid can say that the war is lost, then the GOP should be able to say something about the Democrats unchanging, persistent failure that is their urban policy. Perhaps instead of courting the illegals that can’t vote, we court a segment of the population that has been perpetually taken for granted by the dems…

  41. #102283
    On July 9th, 2007 at 10:51 am, JWS said:

    taylork said: ” it really is time to start getting the urban vote.”
    I hear ya, but the problem is how do you convert an entire race of victims (I know, not every single one…) ? You either offer the freedom to persue whatever life you want – and the consequences that come with that freedom, or the promise of great giveaways – come on down! It seems option “B” is the overwhelming choice…

  42. #102284
    On July 9th, 2007 at 10:54 am, DarkKnight said:

    On July 8th, 2007 at 10:30 pm, The Raging Republican said:
    I’ve come to the conclusion that the only racist people left in the United States are black people. When is the last time you saw someone from the KKK on CNN saying something racist or ignorant?
    We don’t live in a society anymore where black people have to sit at the back of the bus or sit at the lunch counter. We have left behind the times when black people could not get into college or get a job b/c of their skin color. The only racism that is left in our country is brought about by narrow minded blacks. No one else is racist anymore. News Flash: No one cares what color people are!

    I have tried really hard to not post on this topic because I feel very passionately about it. But when I read posts such as this one, it leaves me no choice. It is no wonder why so many African Americans do not trust the GOP to address their concerns because they read posts like this, and want to believe that Dr. King’s dream has been realized, and then they open their newspaper and see things entirely differently.

    Like an student expelled for a racial-laced tirade and physical threatening of individuals in the commons of the library.

    “Go back to Africa.”

    http://thepost.baker.ohiou.edu/articles/2007/06/07/news/20405.html

    But, that’s right. Only the black people are racist. Oops, I forgot.

    But then they wake up and see racist graffiti on their cars when they wake up. But only the “narrow minded blacks” want to bring up discrimination. The graffiti also targeted Jews. Are you just as adement to say that Antisemitism is no longer present in the U.S. as well???

    http://www.theheraldbulletin.com/local/local_story_189164542.html

    Then they read stories about nooses hanging from trees.

    A “misunderstanding” right? How would you read two nooses hanging from a tree in the Deep South?

    http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Black_teen_convicted_amid_racial_te_06292007.html

    In a case that has exposed racial tensions in the southern United States, a black teenager was convicted of aggravated battery for a school fight with a white student.
    The fight was one of several racial incidents that rocked the central Louisiana town of Jena after black students tried to cross the invisible color line and sit on the white side of the school yard last fall.

    Students arrived a few days later to find two hangman’s nooses dangling from a tree.

    Outrage and interracial violence followed the decision by a white school superintendent to overrule the principal’s recommendation to expel three white students who were found to have hung the nooses.

    Then black people try and get their haircut in that very same town… only to be turned away.

    http://m.thenewsstar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070705/NEWS01/707050316/-1/WAP&template=wapart

    RagingRepublican, how would you feel if you were ever turned away from a haircut based on the color of your skin?

    “I don’t think we’re racist here,” barber shop owner Billy Doughty, 70, said. “People work together, go to school together. We never talk about race.”

    But Doughty does not cut black men’s hair. Never has, never will. He tells that to the occasional black would-be customer.

    “That’s the thing about working for yourself,” he said. “I don’t do shaves. I don’t do shampoos. I don’t cut black hair. I don’t think it’s racist. I just don’t do it.”

    And that, many black people say, is the key to race relations here you’ll get along as long as you don’t want much.

    We have some issues in this country RagingRepublican, and I have tried to show you instances where we still have a long way to go to achieving racial equality in our country. When white people cross the street because they see you walking alone in their direction late at night, then things are not equal. When people make flyers and distribute them in neighborhoods saying things like ““White ladies beware…once you go black, you might not come back!” Then we still have a long way to go.

    Do I admit that African Americans still have a responsibility to improve themselves as a collective community? Yes. Things still get under my skin that should not be occuring. Like the African American birth rate and sex rate before age 15.

    But the outside society still has things from its past that unfortunately prohibit Dr. King’s dream from becoming a realization and I hope the above links shed some light on the subject.

    On July 9th, 2007 at 9:22 am, josetheguerilla said:Most southern democrats voted against the civil rights bill of 1964. Including Democrat Robert “KKK” Byrd. Black America, you’re being lied to.

    The Southern Baptist Convention also was against the civil rights movement and supported segregation laws. But I wouldn’t call the SBC racist as they have denounced those positions and apologized. So has, for that matter, Senator Byrd.

  43. #102285
    On July 9th, 2007 at 10:55 am, PokerGuy said:

    Why the vast majority of Blacks, and a significant majority of Jews, continue to vote Democrat is one of the great political mysteries of our day. I can only surmise that the respective sub-cultures are somehow conditioned to embrace self-destruction.

  44. #102290
    On July 9th, 2007 at 11:04 am, DarkKnight said:

    On July 9th, 2007 at 10:14 am, EdDantes said:What would the black community’s response be to a formation of the National Association for the Advancement of White People (not a KKK organization, but something similar to NAACP)? To the creation of scholarships that could only be recieved by white students? To legislation that is inacted to give mortgage and tax breaks to white homeowners? To legislation that gave white students an advantage to get into college just because of their skin color?

    This reminds me of the College Republicans who hold Reverse Racism fundraisers.

    Anyway, actually there already things that you mentioned in place. I have personally observed college scholarships that have been awarded only to majority students. And has lead to the creation of minority based scholarships. This points to a larger socio-economic imblance in the United States with our schools that has already been debated in another thread.

    blockquote>Secondly, racism definitely exists in this country, but it seems, now, to be perpetuated by minority groups

    See above post. It’s not all perpetuated by minority groups.

  45. #102291
    On July 9th, 2007 at 11:06 am, DarkKnight said:

    Edit above post: I was quoting EdDantes when he said that racism is now perpetuated by minority groups.

  46. #102292
    On July 9th, 2007 at 11:06 am, derel3433 said:

    I wonder if it had anything to do with the GOP’s southern strategy?

  47. #102294
    On July 9th, 2007 at 11:07 am, DarkKnight said:

    On July 9th, 2007 at 10:55 am, PokerGuy said:
    Why the vast majority of Blacks, and a significant majority of Jews, continue to vote Democrat is one of the great political mysteries of our day. I can only surmise that the respective sub-cultures are somehow conditioned to embrace self-destruction.

    Would I correct in concluding that you believe antisemitism is dead?

  48. #102302
    On July 9th, 2007 at 11:41 am, taylork said:

    Racism by all groups still exists…I’ve seen it done by whites in New Orleans and blacks and whites in Baltimore. So yes, DarkKnight is correct. The problem is that too many people base their judgments on what a few people are saying/doing and basing their entire judgement of a group/party on the actions of these few idiots. Which is one of the reasons why I think blacks have yet to vote for the GOP. We have a fringe group of idiots who make the rest of us look bad. But when it’s all said and done what these people accomplish is often far less destructive than what urban politicians, and other national democrats are doing (simply because of the number of people these policies affect.) . Just to give you an example, consider the minimum wage increase. In Philadelphia, the increase in wage from $5.15 to $7.25 cut the number of jobs for teens that a federal program was providing by 2,000. This doesn’t even include all the jobs in the private market. Now if a teen can’t work, then there’s a lot of extra time on their hands, and in urban areas where the drug trade is booming, that means a number of these kids will seek to get their income on the street corner.

    …or how about the bureaucracy that is HUD? Here in Philly the city owns over 13,000 vacant or blighted parcels, but it can take over 2 years (and in one case I know of 8 years) to get city owned property into private hands. In situations such as these it should be clear that less government,not more is needed, but the only thing that the dems suggest is further expanding government.

    Thus, while racism is certainly a problem that has yet to be solved, it seems to me that bad governance and policy in these areas does just as much, if not more damage.

  49. #102322
    On July 9th, 2007 at 12:18 pm, PokerGuy said:

    Dark Night

    You pseudo-question implies a belief that Democratic “victim” pandering represents something positive for Blacks and Jews. Such a belief would be laughable if it were not so pathetic and demeaning to its object.

  50. #102326
    On July 9th, 2007 at 12:28 pm, DarkKnight said:

    My question was actually to make sure that I was reading the motive behind your post correctly.

    But be that as it may, racism and prejudices still exist and I believe taylork just made an excellant post in recognizing that it is not THE problem, but it is part of the problem.

    When people see forces at work and beliefs that are founded and based solely on the color of their skin color or religious prefence (jews, muslims, christians included), then they are indeed victims as they themselves did anything to deserve to be singled out or disrespected. Public servants and politicians have a duty to confront those issus if they feel their constituency demands it. It is not laughable. It is not pathetic.

    That is currently the state of the world as we live that we must confront together.

  51. #102351
    On July 9th, 2007 at 1:24 pm, jferg49 said:

    Gawd…here we go again….how long is this going to go on? Is there racism in the U.S. (and world)..yes. It has been around from the beginning of time and will always be around, but it’s just not part of our mainstream culture and it is not government sanctioned. Unfortunately, the NAACP, Jesse Jackson, etc..etc.. are all race baiting pimps, they have almost (with the help of the democrats) singlehandedly held back the black culture in America. Their credo: You can’t do anything without government help, you can’t get ahead without race quotas, you can’t do it without the democratic party, you are too helpless to run your own life, so we will do it for you..etc..etc….Those guys and those race organizations wouldn’t enjoy the success they have without keeping race in the spotlight. Those poor black folks in New Orleans, they can’t be expected to move out of the way of the storm (like thousands of others did)…there was no one to drive them and give them a place to stay and feed them and stroke their egos….there was slavery in the U.S. about 150 years ago, the southern landowner was the master…now the democratic party is the master…the mindset of a large portion of the black community is: please give us everything we need…cause we can’t take care of ourselves in the richest country in the world. Where even poor people have air conditioning, cars, two tvs… etc..etc..So much money was thrown into that area (new orleans), you could’ve bought each family a condo! But, it’s the corrupt climate of that area, a corrupt govenor, mayor, city coucil…police..etc..etc..and the nature of government (incompetent)which makes it nearly impossible to do the right thing, but the right thing isn’t to tell everyone it’s a lynching!…did those folks in Colorado get anything special when they were frozen out of their homes? no, the community took care of themselves…did the folks that got burned out in the dozens of fires in western U.S. get anything special?…NO, they acted like Americans are supposed to act, take care of your neighbors and yourself, quit lining up for free things from the governement…do for yourself…the government was supposed to establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity…that doesn’t mean to provide from birth to death…a place to stay, something to eat, transportation..etc…come on…if folks work hard..they’ll get ahead..if they expect handouts and lifelong babysitting service, they’ll be a drag on society. (but at least they’ll vote democrat, and that’s what it’s all about).

  52. #102364
    On July 9th, 2007 at 2:02 pm, The Raging Republican said:

    Darknight, you are delusional! On a macro level racism does not exist in our society. You may still occasionally run into a racist person that might spout hateful words, but give me a break……. WORDS HAVE NO POWER! Like I said earlier….. We don’t live in a society anymore where black people have to sit at the back of the bus or sit at the lunch counter. We have left behind the times when black people could not get into college or get a job b/c of their skin color. The only racism that is left in our country is brought about by narrow minded blacks.

    The black leaders of today (because it has become such a lucrative business for them)are constantly trying to assure that our nation continues to judge people by the color of their skin as apposed to the content of their character (i.e. affirmative action, reparations, etc.). The simple truth is, if you want to end racial discrimination, then stop discriminating on the basis of race.

    With regards to why black people predominately don’t vote for the GOPs, it is simply b/c Dems pander to get the black vote. They encourage blacks to ‘play the race card’ any opportunity they can get, and they are constantly helping the NAACP perpetuate the lie that they have been selling for all these years, ‘That blacks are victims who need to be propped up by government’.

    GOPs don’t buy into this and expect blacks to be accountable for their own actions. Blacks for some reason don’t like the GOP’s message and would rather continue to play the race card and claim to be victims of society.

  53. #102372
    On July 9th, 2007 at 2:14 pm, taylork said:

    I think that saying that GOPers don’t pander is a gross oversimplification as to why blacks don’t vote Republican. The fact is, there are no credible candidates for many of the local positions, and those that are do not want to go to these areas to court the vote. This has nothing to do with pandering. in urban areas where internet accesss is low, and with a biased media, the only way to get your message across is go out and talk to residents and impoverished. Likely, most are conservative and don’t know it…. As someone who grew up in Boulder, Colorado (a bastian of liberalism) I considered myself to be a liberal because there was no other voice that was regularly heard. Similarly, if you only have democratic candiates in these areas, chances are they’re going to vote democrat and identify themselves as democrat. So it’s not that Blacks aren’t liking the GOP message, it’s that they are not hearing an accurate account of what that message is. That message either doesn’t exist, or is twisted around by the Jackson/sharpton/clinton/obama race baiters.

  54. #102400
    On July 9th, 2007 at 3:36 pm, twoninerkilo said:

    If I saw two nooses hanging in a tree here in SC I’d assume Linsey Graham and Jorge Boosh were about to get what was coming to them; and to hell with J. Bond, there’s plenty of room for him on that tree too.

  55. #102401
    On July 9th, 2007 at 3:39 pm, derel3433 said:

    My understanding of our party’s history is that we purposely drove the blacks out in the 1970s because we wanted to saddle the Democrat party with them (especially in the South) and hasten the flight of southern whites into our party. It worked. It was called the southern strategy.

    Kevin Phillips among others recognized that the emerging GOP coalition was among white Sunbelt voters, economically distressed white midwestern voters, and former segregationist Democrats in the deep south.

    That has been our winning recipe. Most of us now realize that the strategy no longer works because of shifting demographics–and a new GOP coalition one that is less defined by hatred of black people is necessary. So we need to work on that.

    I don’t think attack Julian Bond and the NAACP is wise. It doesn’t get us to where we need to be.

  56. #102402
    On July 9th, 2007 at 3:49 pm, xblade said:

    There are still “sundown towns.” There are many neighborhoods in LA where blacks are targeted for deadly violence.

    Yeah, mostly by other blacks.

  57. #102408
    On July 9th, 2007 at 3:56 pm, The Raging Republican said:

    I think that saying that GOPers don’t pander is a gross oversimplification

    Oversimplification????? Did you not watch the Dem debate at Howard university? It was horrible how low the candidates were stooping…… and the most troublesome thing was not what was being said on stage, but rather the fact that the audience members were standing up and applauding it.

  58. #102461
    On July 9th, 2007 at 5:33 pm, AlturaCt said:

    The problem is that too many people base their judgments on what a few people are saying/doing and basing their entire judgement of a group/party on the actions of these few idiots.

    Which is one of the reasons why I think blacks have yet to vote for the GOP. We have a fringe group of idiots who make the rest of us look bad

    I just love irony. These two statements contradict themselves.

  59. #102469
    On July 9th, 2007 at 5:59 pm, marsouin said:

    Nothing but a bunch of race-hustling, race-baitng poverty pimps! 40 years in Baltimore and haven’t done a damn thing for poor pblack people. And the media has been silent all this time!!

  60. #102501
    On July 9th, 2007 at 7:18 pm, taylork said:

    Explain to me how I contradcited myself? Because it sure doesn’t look like I did. unless you’re calling me a fringe idiot…and if you don’t think we have fringe idiots I give you the name Ron Paul (not that he’s a racist, he’s just an idiot, but it proves that you can in fact be a GOPer and an idiot).

    …and I must admit, I only saw bits and pieces of the dem debate, (because my time could be better spent eslewhere), but when it comes down to it, better ideas will beat pandering hands down. However, people have to hear what these ideas are, and currently the GOP is not doing a good job at getting its message accross to these people.

  61. #102522
    On July 9th, 2007 at 8:44 pm, hadsil said:

    And people critized Bush for the times he wouldn’t attend a NAACP convention. I know I can’t imagine why Bush would not want to attend.

  62. #102532
    On July 9th, 2007 at 9:03 pm, CC said:

    For every one of these hate-filled gatherings, there should be one held by reasonable and logical prominent black people, pointing out the other side. There are many of them, we just don’t hear enough from them.

  63. #102552
    On July 9th, 2007 at 10:51 pm, AlturaCt said:

    Maybe I misunderstood what you meant but what I took you to say was:

    On the one hand you lament those “people” that judge a whole group based on what a few do. Then turn around and say you understand why blacks do this very thing.

  64. #102581
    On July 10th, 2007 at 3:16 am, The Race Card said:

    I never made any refutation to the problems of black-on-black crime. It is a massive problem.

    But to suggest that because blacks kill, rob or assault other blacks that there is no white racism is silly. Most crimes are intraracial as opposed to interracial. Check your DOJ crime stats. That applies to each race.

    What’s up with this burgeoning trend among conservatives to act as if racism has had no lingering effects and has all but disappeared?

    The fact that many comments here generalize about how Blacks act en masse is proof that racism still exists.

    We all know:
    Racism is not a barrier to success in America. Neither is class. Even the most impoverished and marginalized American enjoys boundless opportunities.

    However, it takes undeniable privilege and willful ignorance to act as if there is no pain suffered as the object of racism. (Note I did not say “victim.” The true victims are the purveyors of hate.) Regardless, I would gladly supplant physical pain for some of those painless words I have endured.

    Furthermore, if words have no power, then what is the point of the first amendment? Why would so many die for so few words? I mean those words merely protect and unbind some other words, right? No biggie.

    And if words have such little impact, then why does being called “racist” send the average conservative into an immediate tailspin?

  65. #102584
    On July 10th, 2007 at 3:44 am, The Race Card said:

    On July 9th, 2007 at 3:49 pm, xblade said:

    Yeah, mostly by other blacks.

    Actually no. Black gangs are statistically irrelevant in Los Angeles. Yes there are thousands of young black men and boys who claim a set.

    But there are almost no areas where blacks are a majority. And the overwhelming influx of Latino gangs makes being black a liability in large segments of LA. There is no protective value to being in a gang for African-Americans.

    The press covers this more and more lately. But the real numbers have yet to surface. It would be impossible to acknowledge 100s of thousands of Latino gang members and continually flout the immigration laws. LA is a sanctuary city. It’s mayor all but calls for illegals to vote. Many surrounding cities (Maywood, Huntington Park, Vernon, Whittier) are fast becoming third world outposts.

    LaShawn Barber has been on top of this. Suprisingly, so has the LA Weekly. LA Times has its nose up Mayor Villaraigosa’s culo.

  66. #102589
    On July 10th, 2007 at 7:21 am, pokenhorn said:

    Mr. Bond: A lynching is what happened to the Duke lacrosse players. In trying to ingratiate himself to the likes of you, Nifong strung up 5 innocent young men. If you had a spark of decency in your soul, you would moderate your words and tone on matters regarding race. Here is a topic for you, if you dare: Black violence on White victims.

  67. #103761
    On July 12th, 2007 at 6:10 pm, ammonrae said:

    I am one who strongly believe Bush was just too late helping New Orleans. He took his cool time.

  68. #114250
    On August 8th, 2007 at 1:18 pm, Turbodog said:

    For once I would like to see blacks blame Ahab the Arab for their issues instead of Whitey, since everyone knows the Muslims engaged in slave trade long before The National Weather Service lynched a city.

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