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1. #102635
   On July 10th, 2007 at 11:06 am, LRR said:

   God bless him. What a horrible thing to happen. I’m so glad that his family is there with him. I pray that he fully recovers.

2. #102636
   On July 10th, 2007 at 11:09 am, katieanne said:

   God bless him with a speedy recovery.

3. #102638
   On July 10th, 2007 at 11:11 am, PierreLegrand said:

   But don’t question that moonbats patriotism…no no no.

   Mark my words before we win the war against the Islamic Nutjobs we will have to defeat the far left moonbats.

   The Funny Things Leftists Say

4. #102643
   On July 10th, 2007 at 11:20 am, zeroangel said:

   before we win the war against the Islamic Nutjobs we will have to defeat the far left moonbats.

   Fortunately for us, the far left moonbats are for the most part all talk and no action. This one nutjob is a notable exception.

   Interestingly though, on some bizarre level I have a certain degree of “respect” for this nutball (hear me out). Respect in the way one might “respect” his enemy. That is, at least this fruitcake had the balls to carry out the leftist rhetoric to its logical conclusion.

   Don’t get me wrong though, the guy’s a loathsome individual, he attacked an unarmed man and took the “easy” way out (suicide).

   It’s one thing to liken GW to Hitler and say US soldiers are murdering innocents, but most moonbats don’t seriously mean what they say (or they are cowards), otherwise there would be more cases like this.

5. #102649
   On July 10th, 2007 at 11:35 am, katieanne said:

   Sorry…respect of any sort for an individual to chooses to kill someone who disagrees with their politics or because this loon hates the military is revolting.

   It is a sad, sick commentary that murder is considered a “logical conclusion” for any kind of rhetoric.

6. #102663
   On July 10th, 2007 at 11:48 am, zeroangel said:

   KatieAnn:

   A quick thought exercise:

   Let’s say you honestly believe you live in a country where the leadership is morally equivalent to Adolf Hitler and the servicemembers are baby killers / murderers.

   Wouldn’t you say that the logical conclusion would be to fight?

   It comes down to this:

   Vichy French or La Résistance.

   That is the point I am trying to make. I am not condoning this nutter in any way. I am making the point that the rhetoric is so outrageous and that most moonbats are either cowards (Vichy French) or don’t seriously believe what they preach.

7. #102670
   On July 10th, 2007 at 11:54 am, katieanne said:

   While I see where you are going with this, I just can’t agree with the analogy. And, how does one fight? Is murder the “logical conclusion”? Whatever happened to working the system to get what you want done? Murdering someone you disagree with should not be an option. That’s the road radical Islam is taking.

   What I find particularly scary about the radical left is that they do support murder. Like Castro, Chavez, Che, etc., the end justifies the means no matter how repugnant it is. If we don’t control the left, democracy is at risk.

8. #102681
   On July 10th, 2007 at 12:18 pm, Rabbit said:

   My heart and prayers go out to this Airman and his family.

   Respect to the shooter? No, Thank You. Did you by any chance attend classes by Deb Frisch?

9. #102699
   On July 10th, 2007 at 12:37 pm, DaleC said:

   I would be interested to know what media outlet fueled this fire. Not to place blame . Maybe they can see that constant anti-American broadcasting can have consequences.
   Of course the shooter is responsible for his own actions and I am glad he saved me some tax dollars by killing himself.
   Stay strong Airman Schreiken .

10. #102704
    On July 10th, 2007 at 12:40 pm, josetheguerilla said:

    To blogosphere goddess: Thank you for the address. To Katieanne: Don’t let these people scare you, they are cowards. You want proof? He shot himself afterwards.

11. #102718
    On July 10th, 2007 at 1:07 pm, radio relay said:

    I am very thankful that the young Airman is going to make it. God bless him!

    I am thankful also, that the leftwing coward is dead! May he continue to burn in hell!

12. #102742
    On July 10th, 2007 at 1:42 pm, zeroangel said:

    *sigh*

    Rabbit:

    There is a reason I put the word respect in quotes. I am sure there is a better word to describe the feeling of, “I understand why he might have thought that he was doing the right thing in his unhinged worldview,” I just couldn’t think of one.

    No, I did not attend classes by Deb Frisch, and as a veteran of the current conflict I’m sure I’d find her reprehensible.

    Katieann:

    If one truly believed he lived in the moral equivalent of Nazi Germany, I would think “working the system” is no longer an option and “murdering” (again there is a reason its in quotes) an SS soldier IS an option.

    The point I am making is that this is the result of unfair and unhinged leftwing rhetoric.

    I hope you don’t misunderstand what I am saying. Obviously this guy is a loon and I wish the Airman a speedy recovery.

13. #102753
    On July 10th, 2007 at 1:58 pm, zeroangel said:

    To add to what I said:

    Either the guy was a certifiable nutjob (as I’m sure the MSM would like us to believe), he truly thought he was doing the right thing by going after an “evil stormtrooper”, or a combination.

    It’s probably a combination and that is evidenced by the fact he killed himself (rather than trying to take on the authorities when they arrived).

    In any case, I stand by my main point, that being leftwing rhetoric has gone too far and is partly responsible. However, of course, ultimate blame lies with the murderer.

14. #102756
    On July 10th, 2007 at 2:01 pm, Rabbit said:

    Zeroangel:

    I reread your posts.
    You did say, “on some bizzare level, I have a certain degree of ‘respect’…”. I guess i missed the ‘bizzare’ part. I don’t have any respect on any level for the shooter.
    I do, however, thank you for your service.

15. #102759
    On July 10th, 2007 at 2:10 pm, iowavette said:

    The shooter is dead saving taxpayers hundreds of thousands in court, medical and incarceration expenses. I don’t care and don’t need to know whether he was psychotic, a moonbat extremist or just misunderstood. I hope that soldier recovers fully and manages to put this behind him, to the extent something this significant can ever be mitigated emotionally or intellectually.

16. #102789
    On July 10th, 2007 at 2:47 pm, zeroangel said:

    I don’t care and don’t need to know whether he was psychotic, a moonbat extremist or just misunderstood.

    Here’s the thing, I DO care. I care because it begs the quesiton to what extent is unhinged, leftwing views as a whole responsible?

    Could PierreLegrand have a point and is it possible that at some point in the future we would be faced with large numbers of left-wing insurgents within our own country?

    I don’t think it’s anywhere near that bad especially since josetheguerilla is dead on when he says:

    Don’t let these people scare you, they are cowards. You want proof? He shot himself afterwards.

    However, I DO think there is a big problem with irresponsible rhetoric and not to mention, professors like Deb Frisch poisoning the minds of our students.

    MM references Patrick Poole at The American Thinker in her first blog entry about this story. I will quote him again because it is relative to what I am saying:

    Predictably, a law enforcement spokesman says that Marren’s suicide notes “were indicative of an individual suffering from mental-health problems”, but that raises the question of how anyone could identify anyone suffering from mental-health problems amidst those devoted to bizarre conspiracy theories and the virulent anti-Americanism of the antiwar movement. If anything, Marren would have fit right in unnoticed.

17. #102840
    On July 10th, 2007 at 3:38 pm, TBinSTL said:

    I have to back Zeroangel’s play here. This is the logical end state of the “bizzaro world” rhetoric that the left is engaged in. If this is where they are going, it is critical for us to recognize the threat and be prepared. Understanding the path that your enemy takes to reach conflict with you is absolutely necessary to an intelligent response. Logic doesn’t change, only the factors considered.
    I hate their ideology and am fully prepared to answer in kind, if they want to take it to this new level but calling them monsters in blog comments will do nothing to stop them. Analyzing and preparing will.

18. #102870
    On July 10th, 2007 at 4:35 pm, GrimJack said:

    Actually, hasn’t there been violence at some of these “Peace” rallies, at least from the purported anarchists? Liberals seem to support violence as long as it advances their cause and doesn’t put them in danger. That’s why they love Chavez, Castro, the Mullahs, etc. However, they eschew weapons (too violent) for themselves, unless a bodyguard is lugging it, so its hard to follow Castro’s and Chavez’ example as their opponents believe in the right to bear arms.

19. #102905
    On July 10th, 2007 at 6:24 pm, emjem24 said:

    As an Air Force spouse myself, I would like to add my prayers for the airman’s recovery. I’m not surprised at what certain anti-war freaks will do to our military men and women. They say they support our military but this is what they mean….”we’ll love them at a distance but if we have the opportunity we’ll take them out.” As a gun owner myself, if any of these freaks came near me, they’d be the one with the bullet through the heart. I also agree with a fellow poster that the so-called peace activists are nothing more than anarchists (a word I would describe for Cindy Sheehan and far-left zombies like Pelosi, Kennedy, and the like). I would even describe much of Hollywood/the media in the anarchist category. Many military men/women and their families try to lead ordinary lives while fighting for this country to get this sort of treatment and I wish it would just stop. Stop with the threats, stop with the local job discrimination of military spouses, stop the mistreatment of their children in public schools. That’s what these bozos can do for peace.

20. #102931
    On July 10th, 2007 at 7:28 pm, Rick Moran said:

    I’d like to post emjem24’s comment on every lefty website in America. They really don’t have a clue that their over the top, exaggerated criticisms of the war and the military have wide ranging consequences. There are people out there who actually believe their over-hyped rhetoric and are crazy enough to act on it.

    And why didn’t the article mention the reason for the attack? Has that become irrelevant? You can bet if the victim was an anti-war protestor and the perp was a hawk, it would be mentioned in the first paragraph.

21. #102959
    On July 10th, 2007 at 9:26 pm, derel3433 said:

    I don’t like the logic of holding the antiwar left accountable for this guy’s assault. It would only be a matter of time before Michelle Malkin and Lou Dobbs are blamed for fomenting the anti-immigrant hatred that led to this tragedy:

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,287878,00.html

22. #102963
    On July 10th, 2007 at 9:34 pm, sonnyspats1 said:

    This is a truly horrible event. I apologize but I am glad that the nutcase ended his life. I wish a speedy and full recovery to Jonathon. My cousin is an orthopedic surgeon at Cooper Hospital.

23. #102967
    On July 10th, 2007 at 9:57 pm, PierreLegrand said:

    Fortunately for us, the far left moonbats are for the most part all talk and no action. This one nutjob is a notable exception.

    Course they do control many of the colleges, they infest our schools and you cannot find too many truly right wing News Anchors. Lets not get to the left wing judges, the left wing aclu and the rest of the folks who don’t care whether they appear brave or not they just want to win.

24. #102970
    On July 10th, 2007 at 10:21 pm, zeroangel said:

    derel3433:

    I am not suggesting holding the “anti-war left” accountable so much as the radically unhinged anti-war left (those that spout dangerous irresonsible rhetoric such has comparing Bush to Hitler). There’s a difference.

    MM and Lou Dobbs don’t make any statements as far as I know that are the moral equivalent of comparing Bush to Hitler.

25. #103025
    On July 11th, 2007 at 6:45 am, zorro said:

    Michelle, I have made several attempts to leave a get well message at the link above but I believe that that server is swamped! I hope Senior Airman Jonathan Schrieken visits here, mm.com, Get Well Soon Air Force!

26. #103047
    On July 11th, 2007 at 9:20 am, derel3433 said:

    On July 10th, 2007 at 10:21 pm, zeroangel said:

    “I am not suggesting holding the “anti-war left” accountable so much as the radically unhinged anti-war left (those that spout dangerous irresonsible rhetoric such has comparing Bush to Hitler). There’s a difference.

    MM and Lou Dobbs don’t make any statements as far as I know that are the moral equivalent of comparing Bush to Hitler.”

    Yes, I’m sure the left will be able to make that distinction.