Republicans giving less to presidential races
Reuters reports:
In the past three months, Democratic presidential candidates raised an estimated $81.2 million compared to about $46.6 million for Republicans.
“It’s not a good sign for the Republicans at this point,” said Jan Baran, a campaign finance expert and former general counsel of the Republican National Committee. “They’ve got to be hoping that they can energize their base as well as independents between now and November of 2008, and if they can’t, they’re going to be in trouble.”
Hey, here’s an idea: Spend less time smearing, insulting, and running from your conservative base. Maybe they’ll be more likely to give you money instead of withholding it or asking for it back.
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I keep telling the RNC, no money from me until you start backing enforcement of current immigration laws.
I am giving my money on a candidate by candidate basis. I wonder how long it will take for the RNC to figure this out?
Not one damn dime until Fred announces and the RNC can kiss my fat a** they will never get another dime from my family. They better get with the businesses and LaRaza that wanted AMNESTY to pay their way I will be subverting them and going straight to conservative candidates around the country.
One of the tensions among us is that this spells disaster for the conservative movement. It will be no fun for conservative rank and filers, being a voiceless and powerless party if we all stay at home to register our displeasure with the GOP.
It is no skin off the backs of conservative pundits. I suspect being on the outside is a preferred position for some. I think this is a moment when we have to reject our movement leaders and maintain discipline.
Count me in on that one. We gave a small amount to both Fred a few weeks ago & Rudy earlier this year. However, the RNC got a return to sender, not interested on their latest mailings to our house. I am looking for a true conservative and if a blue dog comes along, I may have to give to that person.
I’ll only give to Fred!
I think part of it, too, is the fact that there are two Dem frontrunners and people are trying to pick one over the other. In the GOP, there are not two people trying to compete. The money is spread more evenly and therefore leads to less urgency in the primaries.
I have been giving to the republican party for years,until about 2 years ago..the spigot stopped. I finally coundn’t stand the lack of action of the majority party…they had the congress and the presidency…and what did they do!? act like a bunch of f’ing democrats. Almost nothing was done. We wanted border security, we got nothing…we wanted the president to execute the war with vigor, not stop our guys from fighting! by Making it difficult with the “rules” of engagement (oh please don’t shoot at that Mosque, just let them shoot at you and ignore it)…we wanted to stop the flow of government spending (aside from the war)…we got more spending…the republicans could have done some good!…but they gave it away…Bush kissing up to Kennedy with the “no child left behind”, a bad bill, that really hasn’t done much to help the education of our children, it just spends more money…Bush tried to kiss up to the Dems far too much….SCREW em…the nation voted for the Republicans…they were supposed to do the right thing, they didn’t, so the public voted for a Democratic congress, and I can’t see the difference between the two. So, until I get some representation, I will NOT give any more money…
After the Amnesty and Open Borders Bill, I still have problems with the GOP.
I have been getting so many emails for money from RNC but I have not acted yet. I am really disappointed in the party. I will proabably give to Rudy. I believe he is more battle tested and proven than Fred. I think all the recent infatuation with Fred has more to do with his talk and his hollywood appeal.
As long as Mel Martinez and the open borders, “it’s too hard to enforce the law” crowd are running the RNC, they’ll have to do without my money.
The RNC keeps calling and mailing for money. I keep telling them NO MONEY until
the republican party gets it’s act together and gets back to a conservative agenda: reduce spending/size of gov.,
enforce our immigration laws, and show some real leadership in congress. I have donated a little money to a couple of specific candidates.
Sorry MM, you once again don’t get it. The majority of Americans oppose the war, are for the alleged “amnesty bill”, and are pro choice. Conservatives are great at complaining and being petulant. They believe in a do-nothing congress and won’t accept compromise of any kind. And MM says liberals are immature!
This is because Fred Thompson has not announced yet. Republican voters want a true Republican.
Hunter or Tancredo…look in their closets, nothing to see here, move along.
Uh - hello. Clue to the clueless, we will not stand for politics as usual and we will show it where you think it counts - in your bank accounts.
First, poll after poll showed that less than half the country supported the immigration bill. Second, Rudy’s pro-choice. Third, the war was going on in ‘04, and the RNC didn’t have this issue.
I was called for money and I told them as long as there was that amnesty bill and no border security, they’d get no money from me. I haven’t heard from them since.
Waiting for Fred!
No Borders Sealed = No Monies
MIKEB REMOVE THE TINFOIL
When will the RNC realize that a party that wants to keep the borders so insecure that ignorant uneducated Mexicans and their kids can cross it easily will NOT be taken seriously when talking about national security?
I too have refused to donate to the RNC like I usually do. In fact, recently I changed my voter registration FROM Republican (which it had been since 1994) to Independant.
MikeB, why are you pro-choice? I mean, you’re here and that’s fine but what if your mother would have decided not to have you. We would be missing out on all this fun, but seriously, I’m not being petulant when I ask this questions of the “pro-death” crowd, I’m just curious. I don’t know anyone who is for the amnesty bill and that includes a large number of Hispanics in the military who were all glad it went down but do want the borders secured because as we know 3 of the Fort Dix 6, came through the Mexican border. If that didn’t put a light up W’s butt I don’t think anything can. Why can’t we secure the border first and deport the illegal criminal aliens first. Then perhaps some pathway to “citizenship” to those who will assimilate would be more acceptable to everyone. As for most of the country and their “war fatigue”, I’m sorry it’s so rough for them to turn on the news and only listen to the MSM and not talk to the majority who just came back.
What’s this hysteria about Fred Thompson?
Is he the “Savior”? The Messiah?
Is he THE ONE who will save the Republican Party and America?
Is he the TRUE Conservative?
Is the Republican Party so desperate, so ruined, it is clinging to whoever seems to be “conservative” without examining the record (if there’s any, in his case), verifying, studying, and analyzing carefully the candidate for the presidency of the United states?
Am I missing something?
Here’s what I’m not missing:
It is all about the IMAGE, as usual.
Alas, it’s a big Hollywood nation.
Time for a little education.
FIRST, our forefathers taught, ‘Never send your political capital [money] out of your own district.‘
They considered it folly to neglect local district political matters - and particularly galling when ‘outsiders’ encroached on the desires of the public within districts.
Sending any money to the RNC, or the DNC, would be seen as sheer stupidity in the eyes of our forefathers.
SECOND, our forefathers also taught, ‘Sitting government should not have the power to re-elect itself - that is the right of the people and the people only.‘
(All government was forbidden the ability to amass election funds. (Look at how far from this ideal all American government has been allowed to stray.)
Laws were kept in place that forced sitting legislators to send the majority of all political contributions to their local party representatives - which kept political power wielded from the bottom up (locally and nearest to the people,) not from the top down.
THIRD, and most important - ‘Overseeing who rises to political office in the local district is every citizens primary concern to ensure freedom and prosperity.’
The point is, ‘the party’ is not the very few in DC (one tenth of one percent,) it is the many within the states and the local districts thereof.
If you have a gripe about ‘the party’ and you have never been to a single party meeting in your own district, city, county or state - you are a bigger part of the problem than those you complain about in DC - and you can scarcely justify your gripes.
Uneducated and ignorant of history, American boob-washed fools continue to allow the media to control their thoughts and actions - while they sit on the couch and never once darken the doors of the real political arena just minutes away from where they live. They know nothing about the political system, what their duties are to it, how to effect it in the best possible ways - and then they complain about what goes on in DC?
IF that were changed, and people begin to function as our forefathers did and taught, there would be hope for the future of this nation. But without simple civic duty being practiced by all, frankly there is little hope.
Terrig, I don’t believe your argument regarding abortion is credible. When I was born, my parents were married and both worked. They were saving for a house which they bought when I was 2. In short, they could provide me with a stable home. That is not the case with many pregnant women. I think in many cases it is best they get an abortion than bring into the world a child they either don’t want or can’t provide for. Yes, they can leave the child for adoption and that may work in some cases, but certainly not all. We should think about the quality of life, shouldn’t we?
As far as the alleged “amnesty bill,” you, and others claim, you want to secure the borders first. But, we all know you don’t want to do anything more than that. So, how do we keep track of the illegals now? The immigration bill addressed it. In sum, you and MM are against a law that would promote national security.
Anyway, my bottom line: In order to get things done in Washington, as well as anywhere else, you sometimes have to compromise with people who don’t agree with you. No law is perfect. But, yes, it is petulant to expect that everything must go your way or the highway.
The Stupid Party - as Tony Snow used to call them before he sold out, drank the Kool-Aid, and squandered all credibility mouthpieceing for Team Dubya - believes what the Treason Media reported after the ‘06 elections and thinks that by rushing to the left and embracing surrender, amnesty and even bigger government (as if it wasn’t out of control already), then the public will support them again.
Wrong.
They lost power because enough conservative voters finally reached the point that holding their nose and pulling the lever for the “not a Democrat” choice was no longer possible. I gave up on the Dubya and the Stupid Party after NCLB, McCain-Feingold, Medicare Part D and the obscene expansion of government spending. I know I can’t be the only one disgusted into withholding all support - financial and every other November.
I also gave up because Dubya is so terminally inarticulate that I knew he would be unable to express the stakes for Western Civilization in the face of the Islamofascist threat. A well-told lie will always beat a badly-told truth and with fumble-tongued Dubya on one side bleating, “It’s hard,” over and over and the well-oiled Treason Media, leaking and spinning for their allies on the Left, on the other, well, is it any wonder the polls are down and confidence is nowhere to be seen?
Why is there such a audience for pundits like Malkin, Hewitt, Powerline, Rush, Hannity, even Savage? Because we get more reasoned and cogent discussion and analysis of the issues from them than we do from our pathetic elected “leaders”. Wouldn’t it be wonderful if we could have politicians as seriously-minded as the chattering class? Wouldn’t it be even better if the public was serious enough to demand substance over pandering and style?
Hey, I can dream, can’t I?
It’s simply that the party is waiting for the candidates to shake out because of the earlier date when the whole campaign thing began.
Individual donors are only a small part of the cash deal here as much as many would like to think otherwise.
The big bucks are still on the sideline waiting to gauge how things will shape up and will open their pockets at the right time.
Money spent now will not be remembered several months down the line except by accountants of media buyers looking at total expenditures.
I saw an article a while back that said the total cost of this cycle for Pres will end up at near a billion dollars due mainly to the ad buys that will have to be used to handle all the earlier date primaries and the run up to the general election.
When the clear front runners emerge and the fight engages then the money numbers will mean more than they do now.
Why give to a Republican and get a Democrat when I can just donate to the Democrats and get the real thing?????
Remember there are two classes of donations.
Those earmarked for primary use and those for general election use.
The money now is not for a heads up battle between the parties it is for sorting out the candidates within each party.
After all the much earlier than before primaries then we will have a much longer than usual run up to the generals and the party also rans have zero use for general election dollars and will probably pass them on for other political usage for congressional and local races.
It will be all bookkeeping shifts at that point.
It is not just about the dollars the candidates themselves have received.
To look at the real picture you have to add up the funding of all the pacs who are keeping their powder dry at the moment before they send it to the candidates they will support.
Just candidate money is a red herring. You have to do a full accounting of the total Pac and 527 money that is building up to be released at a later date.
Simply a lot of smoke and mirrors here and few are looking at the real details.
I just sent back the RNC envelope postage paid with a note, “Not one dime” written in large black ink letters about two inches high.
It felt great!!
I will continue to do this until the Republicans grow a spine.
Perhaps only because it is misnamed the “Comprehensive Immigration Reform” bill instead of the more apt “Comprehensive Immigration Corruption” bill. Many people probably think that “reform” means enforcing the rule of law and deporting illegal aliens, while the bill merely codifies past corruption.
The republicans have set themselves up for failure. We are going to have a libb Congress and a libb President in 08. Right now most Republicans in Congress only care for their own keesters. It’s going to take 8 years of a moonbat government for the republicans to catch up.
Have a nice day.
Needed repeating
Say what you want MikeB but as far as the amnesty bill goes conservatives rose up and spoke and it was shut down.
Conservatives are tired of “compromising” our values away, so for a lot of us if it isn’t our way then we will vote for them to hit the highway.
It’s time to draw a line in the sand, either the people we elect will reflect our values or we’ll find someone who will.
You’re better off writing letters to your congressman or to the chairman of the RNC instead of griping at the RNC employees. I worked for the RNC for a short time in college. When you tell RNC solicitors why you won’t give them money they don’t do a dang thing, nor do they care. Employees work for slightly above minimum wage (at least this was true about 8 years ago) and make commission off of donations, particularly when they are done by credit card. This is their motivation. At the time I worked there, there wasn’t a venue for solicitors to indicate to the RNC why the solicited are unhappy with the party or why they won’t donate. The computer automatically goes to the next screen which shows the information of the next autocall. You’re a drop in the bucket. If you really want to make a point to them, tell them to remove you from their list/database. However, even though I think it’s important to make a point, I wonder if doing it before a make-or-break election is wise. I’d rather not have a democrat in the White House.
As long as Arlen Specter is a republican, no matter which state I reside in, I will not contribute a single red cent.
I’ve written to that RINO, Mr. Specter, and have asked that he switch parties. With republicans like him in office, we are better off having the stupid democraps in charge. Why waste the money?
What do they expect? They fund the re-election campaigns of RINO’s like specter, snow , et al.
MikeyB, sorry you feel my abortion agrument is a red herring but it’s really not. Now that there is “abortion on demand” there are very few children available for adoption. Of course there is also birth control available and don’t through the red herring of “Catholic Church” at me either. I spent 12 years in Catholic school and we were taught (in grades 10-12 about b/c) about that subject and were told to use it. Yes, the quality of life of selfish people is all important isn’t it?
You persume to know my thoughts on the entire immigration situation? Yes, I want the borders enforced, I want the illegal criminals deported and if you didn’t understand, I would rather the ones who have been waiting patiently to get a chance to come first. We need to keep track of the illegals who are all criminal (some more than others) and there are ways to do that but just shutting down someone’s argument because it’s what a liberal from NYC believes is really silly.
Again, it never ceases to amaze me that those who are pro-death have already been born. Please give the others who would like to be born the chance to do so.
Forgot to add, I have a daughter with Down Syndrome and that seems to bother liberals and the pro-abortion crowd. I have been told a number of times that it would have been better for her, me, my husband and son as well as society as a whole if she had not been born. Our son is also adopted as the only child I was ever able to carry to term was Mary Catherine. We were told by the doctor to “do the humane thing”. I said the humane thing is not to kill something that isn’t perfect. Perhaps though you feel that imprefection is something that needs to be destroyed as well.
Looks like the liberals are not playing when trying to take over the government.
Not taking sides on this debate. Just a point of clarification.
How many children were in foster care on September 30, 2005?
513,000
http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cb/stats_research/index.htm
Just think… if the libs hadn’t been aborting all of those babies just because they didn’t want them, the argument of not enough people to work would fly out the window. Give that a thought!!!! And probably most of those babies would have voted democrat as well. Hmmm … I have to think about that.
Oh and btw… its my birthday today. Friday the 13th. Thanks mom for having me!!!!!
The check’s in the mail……not.
Dems block Fairness Doctrine Amendment, if they are not going to reinstate the Fairness Doctrine, this is what alot of Dems say, then how come they are blocking legislation to keep the option open?
http://www.tvweek.com/news/2007/07/democrats_block_fairness_doctr.php
Are Fred & Newt in or out? Then I’ll decide who to donate to.
(PS - After the immigration bill fiasco, the Republican Senate Committee can kiss my touchis.)
I agree with the Independant Conservative: all this Thompson glorification while he hangs back looking adorable is getting on my nerves. Besides, talk is cheap and he essentially has no record whatsoever to run on - Hillary will eat him alive co-opting Bill’s record and that’ll be that in the Socialist States of America.
I think the major player who stops being afriad of 12 million illegal immigrants who can’t vote and starts making some good old down home speeches about tough immigration is going to land on Free Parking and get the cash.
Send the RNC these dollars: GRINGO DOLLARS
My State of Michigan GOP headquarted called me up and asked for money. Not only am I infuriated at the latest actions of the national RINO leaders, and the whole immigration debacle, but I’m likewise infuriated at the horrible predicament that Michigan’s government is in (20 years of 85% GOP rule).
I told the nice lady that I’d send money when the GOP leadership wanted my opinion too.
I would like to be a republican Michelle. I just don’t know which “wing” I would be part of: libertarian wing, anti-war wing, far right-wing or the Christian wing. Anyway, I have racial problems with the Republican Party.
Great, I hope everyone stops giving to the GOP, perfect. Makes it so much easier.
Some of the commenters have indicated that they feel uncomfortable with the anti-bortion issue of the Rep. as just one of the problems that is facing the unity of the conservative party. I for one feel the same. Please understand that a least 40% of the Rep. party does not feel comfortable with anti-abortion talk. As a whole, the nation is basically prochoice. Now you will continue to beat this horse to death and wind up with Hillary as president. Forget the issue. It is over. The horse is out of the barn. The country is not going to go back to a anti-abortion concept like in the 50’s. If it does, that will only mean a vast number on illegal procedures that will force the politicians to go back to the present structure. In the meantime, you are using this issue to chose leaders like Bush and see what a poor choice that was. The politicians are milking this and making those of you who feel that this is an issue think they care. They don’t. No more that Vitter felt that “family values” was something to aspire to (I like Vitter by the way and think he is someone worth keeping despite his warts). I can assure you that when you go to church and the preacher begins to go on about abortion, he likely has had one preformed on one of his girl friends. I am in the know on this and can assure you that your leaders in this effort are the very ones who use the service, unless they are into young boys.
Perseus,
“Great, I hope everyone stops giving to the GOP, perfect. Makes it so much easier.”
If you are being sarcastic, don’t: most DC insiders on either side listen to the sound of jingling coins, and closing the purse strings is the fastest way to get their attention. Besides, all that dough get’s saved up in pockets in one way or another, and the first one with the right message wins the lottery, so to speak.
If you are a Dem who really is rejoicing, don’t celebrate so fast: only Goofy the Dog loses against poll match-ups with Hillary, and at least Repubs stick to their guns on issues.
Remember, too, that people “get real” as we close in to the days of the actual vote on election. If Dims think they can win with the Hillary-Monster as their standard-bearer, then they are dreaming about the election as much as they about actually impeaching Bush or buying carbon offsets.
By the way, say “Hi” to Andomeda for me.
I would support Newt if he decides to give it a run.
To me, he IS the only viable candidate at this juncture.
He won’t get the support he needs unfortunately, but he truly is a conservative. IMHO.
Gayle,
I agree that Newt would be the best, but he was so horribly maligned by the press that I don’t feel he could win. However, don’t base your support on idealism - this is a practical war. Whomever the Republican candidate is will be closer to our values than a Dem. I know it sometimes hurts to have to choose the lesser of two evils, but for God’s sake - literally(!) - don’t throw out the baby with the bathwater!