Comments on: TSA officials blame passenger for their incompetence http://michellemalkin.com/2007/07/18/tsa-officials-blame-passenger-for-their-incompetence/ news and commentary from a conservative perspective Mon, 23 Nov 2009 04:08:02 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Michelle Malkin » ABC News reports on “TSA’s Secret Security Center”–except it’s not so “secret” anymore http://michellemalkin.com/2007/07/18/tsa-officials-blame-passenger-for-their-incompetence/comment-page-1/#comment-201703 Michelle Malkin » ABC News reports on “TSA’s Secret Security Center”–except it’s not so “secret” anymore Sat, 22 Dec 2007 14:15:30 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2007/07/18/tsa-officials-blame-passenger-for-their-incompetence/#comment-201703 [...] know they’ll find a way to blame the public or something, anything other than themselves for their latest folly. They have quite a track record [...] [...] know they’ll find a way to blame the public or something, anything other than themselves for their latest folly. They have quite a track record [...]

]]> By: Pixel_Dust_1776 http://michellemalkin.com/2007/07/18/tsa-officials-blame-passenger-for-their-incompetence/comment-page-1/#comment-114363 Pixel_Dust_1776 Wed, 08 Aug 2007 20:44:15 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2007/07/18/tsa-officials-blame-passenger-for-their-incompetence/#comment-114363 On July 18th, 2007 at 11:08 pm, hawkeye54 said: As the article makes clear, it’s not nationality, ethnicity, or religion that a trained security person looks for. It’s other “tells” that something may be up that they are trained to spot. Maybe if they get good at it, we can keep our shoes on… No, these people will NEVER get good at it. Remember they are CIVILIAN GOVERNMENT employees. From my observation, the only government employees that would have a decent chance at getting good at it might be the US ARMED FORCES. Sadly, we civilians would balk at being screened by our military. Although, personally, I would feel safer:) ...a lot of people that work for TSA at the airports are former military. Many have formal training in explosives, security and the like. I hope that makes you ...."feel"...safe. Rio Semper Fi! On July 18th, 2007 at 11:08 pm, hawkeye54 said:
As the article makes clear, it’s not nationality, ethnicity, or religion that a trained security person looks for. It’s other “tells” that something may be up that they are trained to spot.

Maybe if they get good at it, we can keep our shoes on…
No, these people will NEVER get good at it. Remember they are CIVILIAN GOVERNMENT employees. From my observation, the only government employees that would have a decent chance at getting good at it might be the US ARMED FORCES. Sadly, we civilians would balk at being screened by our military. Although, personally, I would feel safer:)

…a lot of people that work for TSA at the airports are former military. Many have formal training in explosives, security and the like. I hope that makes you ….”feel”…safe.
Rio
Semper Fi!

]]> By: Serious Security Questions at Sky Harbor Airport « Volunteer Opinion Journal http://michellemalkin.com/2007/07/18/tsa-officials-blame-passenger-for-their-incompetence/comment-page-1/#comment-107810 Serious Security Questions at Sky Harbor Airport « Volunteer Opinion Journal Mon, 23 Jul 2007 14:06:49 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2007/07/18/tsa-officials-blame-passenger-for-their-incompetence/#comment-107810 [...] Remember the July 19th post I had on TSA.  Maybe Michelle Malkin wasn’t too far off on the name I got from her and ran as the title of my post [...] [...] Remember the July 19th post I had on TSA.  Maybe Michelle Malkin wasn’t too far off on the name I got from her and ran as the title of my post [...]

]]> By: No fly zone « Full Metal Cynic http://michellemalkin.com/2007/07/18/tsa-officials-blame-passenger-for-their-incompetence/comment-page-1/#comment-107428 No fly zone « Full Metal Cynic Sat, 21 Jul 2007 14:23:03 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2007/07/18/tsa-officials-blame-passenger-for-their-incompetence/#comment-107428 [...] fly zone Here’s a priceless account of government incompetence. Where else? That’s right the [...] [...] fly zone Here’s a priceless account of government incompetence. Where else? That’s right the [...]

]]> By: Ron Rockstar http://michellemalkin.com/2007/07/18/tsa-officials-blame-passenger-for-their-incompetence/comment-page-1/#comment-107358 Ron Rockstar Fri, 20 Jul 2007 23:02:25 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2007/07/18/tsa-officials-blame-passenger-for-their-incompetence/#comment-107358 Transportaion Security Abomination Transportaion Security Abomination

]]> By: hadsil http://michellemalkin.com/2007/07/18/tsa-officials-blame-passenger-for-their-incompetence/comment-page-1/#comment-106910 hadsil Fri, 20 Jul 2007 05:14:40 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2007/07/18/tsa-officials-blame-passenger-for-their-incompetence/#comment-106910 "If Woody had gone right to the police, none of this would ever had happened." "Ah shut up". “If Woody had gone right to the police, none of this would ever had happened.”

“Ah shut up”.

]]> By: southchild » Blog Archive » TSA? Try Sucking Always http://michellemalkin.com/2007/07/18/tsa-officials-blame-passenger-for-their-incompetence/comment-page-1/#comment-106896 southchild » Blog Archive » TSA? Try Sucking Always Fri, 20 Jul 2007 04:30:21 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2007/07/18/tsa-officials-blame-passenger-for-their-incompetence/#comment-106896 [...] Michelle Malkin asks what does TSA “really” mean? [...] [...] Michelle Malkin asks what does TSA “really” mean? [...]

]]> By: southchild http://michellemalkin.com/2007/07/18/tsa-officials-blame-passenger-for-their-incompetence/comment-page-1/#comment-106891 southchild Fri, 20 Jul 2007 03:55:22 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2007/07/18/tsa-officials-blame-passenger-for-their-incompetence/#comment-106891 Terrorists Slip Around Transportation Shall Annoy Try Strangling Airlines Typical Stagnating Agency ... and my fave ... Terrorism's 'Slapstick Award' I think that pretty much describes the TSA. Terrorists Slip Around

Transportation Shall Annoy

Try Strangling Airlines

Typical Stagnating Agency

… and my fave …

Terrorism’s ‘Slapstick Award’

I think that pretty much describes the TSA.

]]> By: davidcaskey http://michellemalkin.com/2007/07/18/tsa-officials-blame-passenger-for-their-incompetence/comment-page-1/#comment-106797 davidcaskey Thu, 19 Jul 2007 22:49:57 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2007/07/18/tsa-officials-blame-passenger-for-their-incompetence/#comment-106797 DesertLover, What does it take for you to understand that the screening process does not in any way secure the plane. So who cares if the screener is military or even Muslim? They are not doing a thing!! People are beginning to be sick and tired of the rights we are losing in the name of security especially when that security is usless. Ultimately Americans will begin to fight back. As we don't seem to be able to communicate with Washington by votes this is going to take the form of violence. Our government needs to stop this idioicity and make the hard, politically incorrect decisions that will ultimately stop the Muslim terrorist. We will need to eliminate their rights but that is better than even the minor inconvience that we now face. I can remember times when you did not have any security at all around a plane. We can return to that point. Our risk of something happening at those times was just as great as now. DesertLover,

What does it take for you to understand that the screening process does not in any way secure the plane. So who cares if the screener is military or even Muslim? They are not doing a thing!!

People are beginning to be sick and tired of the rights we are losing in the name of security especially when that security is usless. Ultimately Americans will begin to fight back. As we don’t seem to be able to communicate with Washington by votes this is going to take the form of violence.

Our government needs to stop this idioicity and make the hard, politically incorrect decisions that will ultimately stop the Muslim terrorist. We will need to eliminate their rights but that is better than even the minor inconvience that we now face.

I can remember times when you did not have any security at all around a plane. We can return to that point. Our risk of something happening at those times was just as great as now.

]]> By: serfer62 http://michellemalkin.com/2007/07/18/tsa-officials-blame-passenger-for-their-incompetence/comment-page-1/#comment-106774 serfer62 Thu, 19 Jul 2007 22:13:13 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2007/07/18/tsa-officials-blame-passenger-for-their-incompetence/#comment-106774 Flying from Khanabad to Tashkent for R&R, security advised me "We had a problem". I left my they'll-never-take-me-alive knife in my storage bag. Yak-40s don't have below deck storage. Somehow 2,000 soom solve "the problem". I wonder how much it would have cost for dynamite. Germany was very efficent and fast. As usual with the USA EEO employees always seemed to have a grudge or an attack of slowidiss... Flying from Khanabad to Tashkent for R&R, security advised me “We had a problem”. I left my they’ll-never-take-me-alive knife in my storage bag.

Yak-40s don’t have below deck storage. Somehow 2,000 soom solve “the problem”. I wonder how much it would have cost for dynamite.

Germany was very efficent and fast.

As usual with the USA EEO employees always seemed to have a grudge or an attack of slowidiss…

]]> By: Viper1 http://michellemalkin.com/2007/07/18/tsa-officials-blame-passenger-for-their-incompetence/comment-page-1/#comment-106752 Viper1 Thu, 19 Jul 2007 21:35:47 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2007/07/18/tsa-officials-blame-passenger-for-their-incompetence/#comment-106752 Tired Stupid Angry Tired Stupid Angry

]]> By: Ignatius Reilly http://michellemalkin.com/2007/07/18/tsa-officials-blame-passenger-for-their-incompetence/comment-page-1/#comment-106635 Ignatius Reilly Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:09:19 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2007/07/18/tsa-officials-blame-passenger-for-their-incompetence/#comment-106635 Did anyone ever really expect that this would be anything other than a jobs program for minimally skilled, minimally motivated Democrat constituents? Did anyone ever really expect that this would be anything other than a jobs program for minimally skilled, minimally motivated Democrat constituents?

]]> By: Mark's Soap Box http://michellemalkin.com/2007/07/18/tsa-officials-blame-passenger-for-their-incompetence/comment-page-1/#comment-106626 Mark's Soap Box Thu, 19 Jul 2007 17:57:46 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2007/07/18/tsa-officials-blame-passenger-for-their-incompetence/#comment-106626 <strong>Getting to be a habit...</strong> UPDATE: See below San Diego’s Lindbergh field is having another screening “crisis”. One flight is cancelled, and several delayed. July 18, 2007 (12:11 PM) — Passengers at Lindbergh Field were re-screened after a piece of luggage... Getting to be a habit…

UPDATE: See below
San Diego’s Lindbergh field is having another screening “crisis”.
One flight is cancelled, and several delayed.
July 18, 2007 (12:11 PM) — Passengers at Lindbergh Field were re-screened after a piece of luggage…

]]> By: Blaise http://michellemalkin.com/2007/07/18/tsa-officials-blame-passenger-for-their-incompetence/comment-page-1/#comment-106617 Blaise Thu, 19 Jul 2007 17:32:25 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2007/07/18/tsa-officials-blame-passenger-for-their-incompetence/#comment-106617 Overheard at TSA Headquarters: "If it wasn't for these damn passengers trying to fly, none of this would have happened." Overheard at TSA Headquarters: “If it wasn’t for these damn passengers trying to fly, none of this would have happened.”

]]> By: DesertLover http://michellemalkin.com/2007/07/18/tsa-officials-blame-passenger-for-their-incompetence/comment-page-1/#comment-106615 DesertLover Thu, 19 Jul 2007 17:27:27 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2007/07/18/tsa-officials-blame-passenger-for-their-incompetence/#comment-106615 davidcaskey in #26 I have yet to see anyone around the screening equipment itself that could physically stop anyone at that point in the line ... the only real line of defense is the people at the point where you exit the screening area and actually enter the concourses ... they are the only ones that look like they could handle any level of a physical disturbance ... Read some of the earlier posts ... someone mentioned having a screener that was in a Bourqah (not sure of spelling) ... would that make you feel better than a military veteran? ... (American Legion, VFW, DAV, or any of the others) which would you feel was being more observant and conscientious at doing their job? ... a military vet or a person (can't even be sure it is a female - common terrorist escape tactic in Iraq ) in a head to toe covering? ... guess I simply don't mind whatever steps are taken to attempt to prevent something from happening ... security sometimes requires that we sacrifice a little something in our daily lives ... be it food rationing, gasoline rationing, mail censorship, (all of which were done in WWII) or passenger screening (today) ... Besides ... look at the bright side ... at least I don't have to go through being already be on the plane and have them come on and say they are holding the flight for some idiot that just showed up at the ticket counter ... and that used to happen a lot ... now they don't hold the flights for the latecomers ... so unless you are on Jet Blue sitting on the tarmac you are probably going to be at least somewhat close to on time taking off ... safe and secure are terms that mean something different to each and every person ... Not saying the vets would make it any safer in the minds of 100% of the passengers ... just think they would be more dedicated at doing their job ... too many people just want to push these vets off the radar screen so they don't have to be reminded of what sacrifices are made to give them their freedom ... I say ... <strong>remind them every day</strong> davidcaskey in #26

I have yet to see anyone around the screening equipment itself that could physically stop anyone at that point in the line …

the only real line of defense is the people at the point where you exit the screening area and actually enter the concourses … they are the only ones that look like they could handle any level of a physical disturbance …

Read some of the earlier posts … someone mentioned having a screener that was in a Bourqah (not sure of spelling) …

would that make you feel better than a military veteran? … (American Legion, VFW, DAV, or any of the others)

which would you feel was being more observant and conscientious at doing their job? …

a military vet or a person (can’t even be sure it is a female – common terrorist escape tactic in Iraq ) in a head to toe covering? …

guess I simply don’t mind whatever steps are taken to attempt to prevent something from happening … security sometimes requires that we sacrifice a little something in our daily lives … be it food rationing, gasoline rationing, mail censorship, (all of which were done in WWII) or passenger screening (today) …

Besides … look at the bright side … at least I don’t have to go through being already be on the plane and have them come on and say they are holding the flight for some idiot that just showed up at the ticket counter … and that used to happen a lot … now they don’t hold the flights for the latecomers … so unless you are on Jet Blue sitting on the tarmac you are probably going to be at least somewhat close to on time taking off …

safe and secure are terms that mean something different to each and every person … Not saying the vets would make it any safer in the minds of 100% of the passengers … just think they would be more dedicated at doing their job …

too many people just want to push these vets off the radar screen so they don’t have to be reminded of what sacrifices are made to give them their freedom …

I say … remind them every day

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