Michelle Malkin » ACORN falls again: The worst case of voter-registration fraud in Washington state history Plus: John Edwards & ACORN, perfect together

ACORN falls again: The worst case of voter-registration fraud in Washington state history Plus: John Edwards & ACORN, perfect together

By Michelle Malkin • July 26, 2007 10:00 PM

Update 7/27 10:05am Eastern. Here’s the PDF of the settlement agreement (via David Postman):

a. ACORN agrees that submission of registrations that have been fraudulently collected by an ACORN employee and not reviewed pursuant to the quality control procedures, or willfully turning in fraudulent cards, may constitute grounds for criminal prosecution of ACORN as a corporate entity unless such cards have been segregated by ACORN pursuant to the requirements of section 7 of this agreement.

b. ACORN agrees that violations of the terms of this agreement may be used as evidence in the State of Washington in future criminal prosecutions against ACORN employees, ACORN management, or ACORN as a corporate entity.

Guess which left-wing group is at the center of the worst case of voter-registration fraud in Washington state history? Yep, you guessed it: ACORN. The same ACORN tied to massive voter fraud in Missouri. And Ohio. And 12 other states. Here’s the Washington state scoop via Seattle’s KOMO TV: “King County prosecutors filed felony charges Thursday against seven people in what a top official described as the worst case of voter-registration fraud in state history, while the organization they worked for agreed to keep a better eye on its employees and pay $25,000 to defray costs of the investigation. The seven submitted about 1,800 registration cards last fall on behalf of the liberal Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, or ACORN, which had hired them at $8 an hour to sign people up to vote, according to charging documents filed in Superior Court.”

Prosecutors didn’t sugercoat the fraud: “This was an act of vandalism upon the voter rolls of King County,” said Dan Satterberg, the interim King County prosecutor. But officials tried to give ACORN some benefit of the doubt, noting that the defendants were motivated by financial gain rather than intentions of sabotaging the election. However:

….in interviews with King County Sheriff’s Detective Chris Johnson, several of the defendants - while freely admitting they forged the forms - insisted that they had been told ACORN would shut down their office in Tacoma if they didn’t improve their numbers, Johnson wrote in a probable cause statement.

One, Ryan Olson, said another worker in the office told him “do what you have to do” to turn in more cards.

ACORN’s oversight of the workers was virtually nonexistent - to the extent that civil charges could have been warranted, Satterberg said.

In a settlement agreement announced Thursday, ACORN, which cooperated with the investigation, agreed to pay $25,000 and to make improvements in its management, training and oversight of suspect voter registrations throughout the state.

The Seattle Times adds that the announcement of criminal charges came after the King County Canvassing Board revoked 1,762 allegedly fraudulent voter registrations submitted by ACORN employees.

According to prosecutors, six ACORN workers “had admitted filling out registration forms with names they found in phone books last October. The canvassers filled out the forms while sitting around a table at the downtown Seattle Public Library.”

You’ll love some of the names they used, via Sound Politics:

Tom Tancredo
Dennis Hastert
Alcee Hastings
John McKay
Leon Spinks
Frekkie Magoal
Fruto Boy Crispila

Google “Fruto Boy Crispila.” You’ll see the listing in the cached entry on the King County voter rolls (the PDF file is gone, but you can see the line item):

ACORN and voter fraud: Perfect together.

Flashback from November 2006, WSJ:

Operating in at least 38 states (as well as Canada and Mexico), Acorn pushes a highly partisan agenda, and its organizers are best understood as shock troops for the AFL-CIO and even the Democratic Party. As part of the Fannie Mae reform bill, House Democrats pushed an “affordable housing trust fund” designed to use Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac profits to subsidize Acorn, among other groups. A version of this trust fund actually passed the Republican House and will surely be on the agenda again next year.

Acorn and its affiliates have pulled some real stunts in recent years. In Ohio in 2004, a worker for one affiliate was given crack cocaine in exchange for fraudulent registrations that included underage voters, dead voters and pillars of the community named Mary Poppins, Dick Tracy and Jive Turkey. During a Congressional hearing in Ohio in the aftermath of the 2004 election, officials from several counties in the state explained Acorn’s practice of dumping thousands of registration forms in their lap on the submission deadline, even though the forms had been collected months earlier.

“You have to wonder what’s the point of that, if not to overwhelm the system and get phony registrations on the voter rolls,” says Thor Hearne of the American Center for Voting Rights, who also testified at the hearing. “These were Democratic officials saying that they felt their election system in Ohio was under assault by these kinds of efforts to game the system.”

Given this history, it’s not surprising that Acorn is so hostile to voter identification laws and other efforts to ensure fairness and accuracy at the polls. In Missouri last month, the state Supreme Court held that a photo ID requirement to vote was overly burdensome and a violation of the state constitution. Acorn was behind the original suit challenging the statute, and it has brought similar challenges in several other states, including Ohio.

A recent Pew Research Center survey found that blacks today are almost twice as likely as they were in 2004 to say they have little or no confidence in the voting system. Such a finding would seem like a powerful argument for voter ID laws, which consistently poll well among people of all races and incomes and would increase confidence in the voting process. Of course, voter ID laws would also cut down on fraud, which, judging from the latest indictments, would put a real crimp in Acorn’s style.

Isn’t it time to cut off government grants and taxpayer subsidies to ACORN once and for all?

***

Commenter Zorro points out that John Edwards’ poverty tour was joined at ACORN’s hip. Yes, indeed it was. Here’s video:

Fraudulent birds of a feather flock together.

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#1

On July 26th, 2007 at 10:03 pm, zorro said:

Surprise, surprise! Didn’t Silky Pony just have a photo op with these criminals down in New Orleans or somewhere?
#2

On July 26th, 2007 at 10:07 pm, hadsil said:

Vote early and vote often!

Poor chad.
#3

On July 26th, 2007 at 10:08 pm, puhiawa said:

The Democratic Party thrives on voter fraud. It is not a secret, it is something that is rubbed in the faces of America everyday. One of the fallout of Gansalves (AG Mexico) is that this coward will now be afraid to investigate fraud. As it is, his office is rife with corrupt Democratic symapathizers that know they will be protected by the press and Congress.
#4

On July 26th, 2007 at 10:09 pm, The Raging Republican said:

Thank God they didn’t have to present valid voter IDs (Sarcasm).
#5

On July 26th, 2007 at 10:10 pm, corona said:

but … but … but … The Nutroots know that Karl Rove and his stooges at Diebold rigged the last election so that … never mind
#6

On July 26th, 2007 at 10:10 pm, The Raging Republican said:

Where was the ACLU at on this one???
#7

On July 26th, 2007 at 10:11 pm, The Raging Republican said:

Wait doesn’t this count as ‘hate site’ material???
#8

On July 26th, 2007 at 10:18 pm, ajmontana said:

Millions of dollars for this bunch in grants needs to be cut immediately. Enough!
#9

On July 26th, 2007 at 10:18 pm, katieanne said:

Democrats can’t win without cheating, which is why they fight vote ID. What goes on in Missouri is appalling.
#10

On July 26th, 2007 at 10:19 pm, The Raging Republican said:

It is appalling and it probably wont make it on the evening news tomorrow night either.
#11

On July 26th, 2007 at 10:27 pm, puhiawa said:

We don’t have any Tangerines, just these here Acorns.
#12

On July 26th, 2007 at 10:42 pm, Snooper said:

Stop picking on the Democrats and left-wing folks please. It’s genetic.
#13

On July 26th, 2007 at 11:07 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

On July 26th, 2007 at 10:07 pm, hadsil said:
Vote early and vote often!

Poor chad.

Is someone from Florida?

Too much perm solution harmed Silky’s brain.

Dern, that may end up as hate speach on some ~~nutroots~~ ~~moonbats~~ persons blog.
#14

On July 26th, 2007 at 11:29 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

… he ~~represented injured children~~ channeled dead babies…

…a candidate for Vice President…
umm, you do not run for Vice President

… he created one America…
one for himself and one for the poor

Silky

…ending poverty in the United States of America which I think is a huge moral issue…
Then, how does he sleep at night

Should I go on?
#15

On July 26th, 2007 at 11:30 pm, bear1909 said:

Gonzalez should give the Judiciary Committee the bird and agressively start investigating every Democratic pol involved in those states. The Bush administration should go on the offensive. They should investigate Senator Charles Schumer for crimes perpetrated against his political opponents in recent elections. They should investigate Senator Patrick Leahy’s misappropriation of Federal funds in housing administration programs in Vermont. And while they are at it, they need to investigate Senator Diane Feinstein’s conflict of interest in military spending decisions from which she should have been recused.

I am with ajmontana. E-NUFF!
#16

On July 26th, 2007 at 11:50 pm, hadsil said:

I’m from New York.

Sorry about Clinton. I tried.
#17

On July 26th, 2007 at 11:56 pm, blacktygrrrr said:

I wonder if these filthy Acorn criminals are the same people that still pray every night to the President of Mother Earth, Gaia, aka Al Gore.

Sheesh! At this very moment, Bob Scum, I mean Shrum, is complaining about Florida 2000 and Ohio 2004.

When it is Kennedy defeating Nixon, it is ok. The double standard is mind boggling.

eric http://www.blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com
#18

On July 27th, 2007 at 12:06 am, On-my-soap-box said:

I am with you bear1909. It just sickens me to no end that in a time of war, we have dimocrats going after Americans. If they fought to GWOT as hard, it would have needed in an overwhelming victory by now.

There is something to be said about unity.
#19

On July 27th, 2007 at 12:07 am, On-my-soap-box said:

ended in - time for sleep
#20

On July 27th, 2007 at 12:12 am, palani said:

ACORN

Just a bunch of nuts!
#21

On July 27th, 2007 at 12:23 am, 29Victor said:

1) Don’t worry RFK Jr. will and his anti-voter fraud crusade will make sure these miscreants pay and that this never happens again! Won’t he……*crickets*…..

2) Of course these people cheated. They were driven to a life of crime by ACORN only paying 7 cents above Washington minimum wage! That’s practically slavery, they’re worse than Hitler, etc…
#22

On July 27th, 2007 at 12:54 am, purplepeep said:

On-my-soap-box said:
that may end up as hate speach on some nutroots moonbats persons

Yeah, we really do need a more politically correct, but functional, term don’t we?

“The naivete-enhanced”?

Nevermind - I’m just no good at being PC.
#23

On July 27th, 2007 at 1:28 am, lumberjack said:

I’m pretty sure I went to school with a guy named Fruto Boy Crispila.

Redheaded kid. Skinny, because everyone took his lunch money, even the girls.
#24

On July 27th, 2007 at 1:55 am, puhiawa said:

Saudis are not our friends.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/27/world/middleeast/27saudi.html?ei=5065&en=869eb184561c74d8&ex=1186113600&partner=MYWAY&pagewanted=print
#25

On July 27th, 2007 at 3:00 am, Mr_Conservative_Cat said:

You know there are some tantilizing tidbits in this story that point to a much wider suit if anyone decides to launch it:

“The canvassers filled out the forms while sitting around a table at the downtown Seattle Public Library.”

It’s omne thing to commit fraude, but this is an unequivical case of intentional conspiracy to commit fraude (the will of the people being the victim in an election cycle), and that, my friends, is a felony with manditory fines and jail terms, not a measily $25,000.00, which is low enough that ACORN will see it simply as the uncomfortable cost of doing business.

“As part of the Fannie Mae reform bill, House Democrats pushed an “affordable housing trust fund” designed to use Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac profits to subsidize Acorn, among other groups. A version of this trust fund actually passed the Republican House and will surely be on the agenda again next year.”

If Republican lawmakers start now, they can yank the financial watershed out from under ACORN easily, because now that this has happened, and the Dems are aware if it, the next time it happens the Dems - whoever oversees this stuff - can also be brought up on federal conspiracy charges. You’d be surprised at just how wide and loose the legal definition is for criminal conspiracy; actors can be working toward the same goal without knowing what the other is doing, on and on, really - what really matters is an established pattern of behavior on the part of the actors who people are working with or funding, a malicious intent and an understanding in general terms what is likely to occur when funding those actors (very generally, as in, some unscupulous means will be used to tilt the election).

If anyone wanted and if they could get some portion of the media to make noise (ha) this could easily turn into voter fraud gate for the Dems. They’ll paint it as “aw shucks” like these were high school kids at the libary. What do you wanna bet that half of these people are over 30?
#26

On July 27th, 2007 at 6:40 am, arkansasmike said:

The worst case of voter-registration fraud in Washington state history

That’s quite an accomplishment! Washington has some good cheaters.
The aftermath of their last governor’s race was very entertaining, in a twisted sort of way.
#27

On July 27th, 2007 at 7:20 am, ajmontana said:

Doesn’t Fruto Boy Crispila play Centerfield for the Red Sox?
#28

On July 27th, 2007 at 7:39 am, Dandapani said:

This IS a HATE SITE. When the truth be told, liberals HATE IT!
#29

On July 27th, 2007 at 7:45 am, Ralph Gizzip said:

It’s time to purge the voter rolls of every name and start over. Every person registering to vote must bring a photo ID, proof of residence, and proof of citizenship. Tie that into a national database like SSI or IRS and the cases of voter fraud go way down.
#30

On July 27th, 2007 at 8:23 am, jrlingreenbay said:

Ok, now you tell me - which is more likely going to appear on the news:

“Good Evening, and welcome to the NBC Evening News. Leading off tonight, Presidential Candidate John Edwards and his association with a partisan political group who today, was fined $25,000 for massive voter registration fraud in the state of Washington.”

OR

“Good Evening and welcome to the NBC Evening News. Continuing once again on our coverage of allegations of dishonesty in the Bush Administration….”
#31

On July 27th, 2007 at 8:37 am, ajmontana said:

Anything would be better than the ‘teen beat’ Nat. Enq. Lohan, Hilton, Spears hour.
#32

On July 27th, 2007 at 8:58 am, jrlingreenbay said:

ajmontana:

Agreed 150%…. I hate to say it but I’ve begun to switch the radio / tv dial on even O’Reilly, Hannity, or any program that starts talking about Lohan.

With news topics like this voter fraud, Scott Thomas’ B.S., the Korean Hostages, Immigration, etc…. I am truly disappointed, ESPECIALLY with Hannity & Colmes, that so much time is spent talking about Lindsay Lohan…

it’s ridiculous.

Thankfully, here at least, there is a true sense of the important.
#33

On July 27th, 2007 at 9:01 am, ajmontana said:

Amen Brother.
#34

On July 27th, 2007 at 9:21 am, MCPO Airdale said:

I would think ACORN is ripe for an indictment under the Federal RICO statutes.
#35

On July 27th, 2007 at 9:54 am, Myra Langerhas said:

MSM has already begun to ramp up its spin machine.

From WaPo:

Officials stressed that the defendants were motivated by financial gain rather than the desire to toy with the outcome of the election. They said ACORN was partly a victim because it paid for voter-registration work that was never performed.

Victim of what? Their own hiring practices?
#36

On July 27th, 2007 at 10:00 am, jrlingreenbay said:

ACORN was a victim???? WOW…I haven’t seen that much spin since I tried a wicked hook ball the last time I went bowling….
#37

On July 27th, 2007 at 10:19 am, Boomer said:

Now we all know how the Democrats basically stole the Governor’s office from the people of Washington State. I can’t wait for the subpoenas to hit the Governor’s mansion and all the cronies that facilitated this bloodless coup.
#38

On July 27th, 2007 at 10:31 am, Yashmak said:

They said ACORN was partly a victim because it paid for voter-registration work that was never performed.

Perhaps they paid those folks to fill out more false voter registration cards than they actually completed. That would make them a victim. . .sorta. . .in bizaaro-world.
#39

On July 27th, 2007 at 10:34 am, Myra Langerhas said:

As a follow up to my last comment, if these workers were just dumb shlubs tryin to turn a buck, as the WaPo piece suggests, then how did they come to pick the names of noteworthy political figures from distant Congressional districts?
#40

On July 27th, 2007 at 10:46 am, davidcaskey said:

Voting needs to be reconsidered in general. Our founders did not feel that each man or woman had a vote. The concept as best I can tell was that mostly property owners and those paying into the system were to vote. Others were excluded. And yes, I know women did not vote (considering the instability of our nations since they received this privilege maybe our founders had a reason).

In addition, as one of the few people in the country that pays taxes, only 20% support this governments excess spending. I do not feel that my vote is worth a plug nickel. I feel that we have had a system of taxation without representation since FDR. This is what some in the 30’s called the “Forgotten Man”. FDR picked up the title and used it incorrectly to give us the enslavement we enjoy today.

As a result, I feel the nation is broken. With the coming election of Hillary I can only hope that this spurs actions as the election of Lincoln did in 1860.
#41

On July 27th, 2007 at 11:11 am, tony the tiger said:

“NOT MY GOVENOR!!
#42

On July 27th, 2007 at 11:14 am, tony the tiger said:

OOPS! ~~GOVENOR~~GOVERNOR…fixed that. PIMF
#43

On July 27th, 2007 at 11:23 am, DanME said:

I wonder if we’ll see this report on the nightly NBC, ABC, or CBS news. We all know the answer.
#44

On July 27th, 2007 at 11:37 am, jrlingreenbay said:

I agree with a previous post… start from scratch.

All new voter registration, with acceptable identification.
#45

On July 27th, 2007 at 11:42 am, tony the tiger said:

In a settlement agreement announced Thursday, ACORN, which cooperated with the investigation, agreed to pay $25,000…

Not a bad deal to buy the governorship.
How many recounts did it take?

“Gregoire… won a hand recount by a scant 129 votes out of more than 2.8 million cast.”

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002134542_webrossi29.html
#46

On July 27th, 2007 at 12:08 pm, jbirish said:

I live in the Socialist State of Washington. Business as usual and we knew there was fraud, so what do we do about it now? We’re stuck with this governor and her cronies in the legislature. As soon as she took over, they rammed numerous spending bills through the legislature without any debate. They are untouchable because King County is over-run with nutroots and their votes run this state. The rest of us might as well not vote. Eastern Washington doesn’t exist and the rest of the counties here don’t either. There is something wrong with this picture that allows one segment of a state’s population to run the state and no one else is represented!
#47

On July 27th, 2007 at 12:36 pm, governmentdrone said:

On July 27th, 2007 at 10:46 am, davidcaskey said:
Voting needs to be reconsidered in general. Our founders did not feel that each man or woman had a vote.

Agreed.

I would suggest a system that limits voter registration to those individuals who can pass a simple test (written or verbal) on some basics of voting as it was intended to be in this country; i.e. a vote for “president” is actually a vote for an elector for president, how a candidate for president can lose the popular vote and still win the elections, etc. I think you should also have to be able to explain the concept behind the Senate and how it’s members were originally chosen and how they are now chosen and what that difference truly means to our country as a whole.

Only after successfully completing this type of test should one then be able to begin producing positive identification of who they are, their residency and their citizenship of this country. Once this has been established, then and only then should they be able to register to vote.

One other thing . . . failure to vote in three straight elections - ANY election in which you are eligible to vote no matter how small or “trivial” they may seem would be grounds for having your registration revoked.

The election of those who would govern our country is too important for those who have little or no knowledge or interest in our country and how it is supposed to work to participate in. Look where it’s gotten us.

Just my 2 cents.
#48

On July 27th, 2007 at 12:38 pm, nfbailey said:

Mr. Conservative Cat,

Your comment was so good, I was compelled to excerpt it in an email to my representative. A conservative himself, maybe he will move on it. Thanks.

The following is what I sent:

Dear Mr. Flake,

The following is excerpted from a blogged response to the report of ACORN being caught at intentional voter fraud in Oregon this week. (Michelle Malkin’s blog) It got my attention when I became aware that these unsavory admittedly liberal people are subsidized with my tax dollars. I hope you are equally affected by it, enough to question it openly on the House floor or better yet by way of legislation:

{“The canvassers filled out the forms while sitting around a table at the downtown Seattle Public Library.”

It’s one thing to commit fraud, but this is an unequivical case of intentional conspiracy to commit fraud (the will of the people being the victim in an election cycle), and that, my friends, is a felony with manditory fines and jail terms, not a measily $25,000.00, which is low enough that ACORN will see it simply as the uncomfortable cost of doing business.

“As part of the Fannie Mae reform bill, House Democrats pushed an “affordable housing trust fund” designed to use Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac profits to subsidize Acorn, among other groups. A version of this trust fund actually passed the Republican House and will surely be on the agenda again next year.”

If Republican lawmakers start now, they can yank the financial watershed out from under ACORN easily, because now that this has happened, and the Dems are aware if it, the next time it happens the Dems - whoever oversees this stuff - can also be brought up on federal conspiracy charges. You’d be surprised at just how wide and loose the legal definition is for criminal conspiracy; actors can be working toward the same goal without knowing what the other is doing, on and on, really - what really matters is an established pattern of behavior on the part of the actors who people are working with or funding, a malicious intent and an understanding in general terms what is likely to occur when funding those actors (very generally, as in, some unscupulous means will be used to tilt the election).

If anyone wanted and if they could get some portion of the media to make noise (ha) this could easily turn into voter fraud gate for the Dems. They’ll paint it as “aw shucks” like these were high school kids at the libary. What do you wanna bet that half of these people are over 30?}

Pleease take a look at this subsidizing issue. It’s absolutely NOT RIGHT.

Respectfully,
#49

On July 27th, 2007 at 12:40 pm, governmentdrone said:

Just a clarification. I do NOT agree with davidcaskey’s implied statement that women should not be able to participate in the process. If he didn’t mean that then I apologize for reading something into his statement.
#50

On July 27th, 2007 at 1:10 pm, 29Victor said:

#46 jbirish

Amen, brother. Every election it’s the same thing, the Republican candidates & conservative issues are winning until they start to tally up Western King County, then it slides the other direction.

As for how Gregoire managed to “win” the election; she kept the recounts going until she got the numbers that she liked. And how did she afford these recounts? The state workers union underwrote them. But what motivated the union to invest their money in this way? This did. Gregoire renegotiated the state workers contract to allow them to fire anyone who didn’t either join the union or pay big fee.

Talk about voter fraud.

But I’m not worried. I know that the ACLU & RFK Jr. are going to swoop in soon and assure my right to a fair and honest election (oooh, maybe they’ll bring Jimmy Carter with them). But they probably don’t even know yet that it happened, it wasn’t reported in the local news, and the only national media that covered it was Fox and I don’t think they watch that channel.

There is really no point in voting Republican in Washington State. Chances are whatever you vote for is going to lose, if it doesn’t lose then the Democrats are going to cheat to make sure it loses anyway, if your candidate wins more likely than not he’s a RHINO, if your initiative wins it’s more likely than not going to be struck down by the state supreme court.
#51

On July 27th, 2007 at 1:20 pm, Mike D. said:

And so, somebody is going to call the Edwards campaign and get a comment from them, right???

make him either repudiate the whole org or stand by them and go down in flames with them???
#52

On July 27th, 2007 at 2:40 pm, tony the tiger said:

#46 jbirsh & #50 29Victor

Don’t want to preach atcha’ but you can’t affect change by whining.
There are conservatives in Washington State too. We must participate in the process.
When traveling through the state it never ceases to amaze me the difference in attitude between the Seattle-ites and rural communities; I can’t believe the whole state supports the agenda of our current (not my) governor and her cronies.
Be well - and support a conservative agenda!
#53

On July 28th, 2007 at 11:25 am, jbirish said:

tony the tiger:
I don’t consider your comment preaching, but just a reminder to stay in the fight, which I do. ‘Whining was not what I was doing, but just pointing out the facts. I vote even when the chances are my vote will likely be canceled out by
someone’s dog voting liberal. The facts are, these people know that even if they are found out, nothing will be done to change the outcome. In light of the fraud that took place in the governor’s race, if I had anything to say about it, when fraud is discovered, I would require the election be run again, even at this late date. Until we find some viable way to check the authenticity of the registrations, we are going to battle this problem.
#54

On July 28th, 2007 at 11:57 am, tony the tiger said:

jbirish
Thank you for that.

One of the discouraging facets of politics in general is the conservative side tends toward a more civil approach, while the other side resorts to “brass knuckle” tactics like delay, recount, ballot-stuffing etc…
Our only recourse is to step-up to the plate and be vocal. Looks like we’re both doing that.
Have a great weekend!
t
#55

On July 28th, 2007 at 2:38 pm, 29Victor said:

tony,

We are very vocal, we still vote, it’s just that it doesn’t matter. The system is corrupt, so even when we win… we lose. Our legislature and judges seem to take great pleasure in countermanding the will of the people.

That’s not “whining,” it’s not quiting, it’s not giving up, it’s just a fact that any conservative in Washington State has to face up to.

When I was fifteen or so I admited to myself that the Mariners are never, ever, ever, ever, ever going to win the World Series. I accepted it and moved on. This is no different.
#56

On July 28th, 2007 at 6:54 pm, bear1909 said:

Sounds to me as if this is a loose thread in the Democratic National Committees fabric.

I hope this gains some traction. Nothing would please me more to see the DNC have to put the frothing Howard Dean on TV explaining away the ACORN fiasco.

The only problem with relying on the “grassroots” to move your agenda, at least the covert one, is you have to make sure there is reliable supervision of the process.

The Dems believe nobody is paying attention.

Typical.