What bothers me about this report is that after several years we were unable to prove these guys were terrorists. I thought we were toturing these people and we got no useful info to substantiate their involvement in terrorism to the point where we had to let them go? Good grief! We had several years to verify each individuals activities and we were unable to do so.

No doubt there may have been innocents caught up and captured by accident. We should have done the research and completed the homework required to determine who was who. We had several years to do so. We have no one to blame but ourselves.

And, suppose you had been locked up knowing you had done nothing wrong. I’d be pissed. Maybe these guys didn’t so much return to the battlefield, but turned to the battlefield to seek revenge.

Gitmo was, and is, a good idea that was poorly executed. It is a recurrent theme in the Bush Administration.

He (Ishmael) will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyone’s hand against him. and he will live in hostility toward all his brothers

Ishmael was the progenitor of the Saudis and the 12 tribes of his line. Mohammed was one of his descendants. If a wild donkey is penned up it can do no harm. We certainly see what happens when we let them go. When will we wake up and see the light. they are at our doorsteps now and what do the leaders of our country worry about? Subpoenas to stage a political circus; hearings about past court precedent or promises…we are dead in the water if we don’t wake up. I have little hope for the results of the 2008 elections so maybe it’s time to make sure our second amendment tools are in good working order.

When you have time, it is worth noting that “catch and release” is now being advocated for convicted terrorists as well. The LA Times today had an article condemning the President for not immediately pardoning American Taliban John Walker Lindh. They also managed to get in a cheap shot about Scooter Libby, who according to my notes, was not fully pardoned, and did not kill anybody.

It is bad enough that the left is ok with releasing potential terrorists, but why even after they have been convicted? I want to live, and wonder why the LA Times cannot grasp this.

Also, and forgive the appearance of a tangent, Jewish liberals obsessed with immediate intervention in Darfur might want to know that the Finance Minister of Darfur blamed the Jews today for the crisis.

Does anyone on the left support policies that will keep innocent Americans from being killed?

eric http://www.blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com

Of course that’s what’s happenning with the Saudi military equipment. I worked with two guys who were former USAF Thunderbirds crew chiefs who had worked as contractors in Saudi Arabia as crew chiefs. You make great money as a retired military maintenance guy doing maintenance for the lazy and stupid Saudis. I hear it’s not as good now but it used to be fabulous, good enough to return and buy a house with cash.

But, ya know, Tim, maintaining jets and other high tech equipment is like being a zookeeper feeding exotic animals. You can’t just stop and walk away or all those exotic animals die. Besides gas and oil, jets eat up all kinds of consumable parts. Stop maintaining them and they grind to a halt, one by one, or worse: they fail in flight.

Silly Republicans, GITMO is for you.

The Saudis are famous for paying foreign experts and technicians 3 or 4 times what they would make at home to maintain their equipments. Do you know for sure that is not happening with the military equipment we have already sold them?

Interesting details. I’d heard rumors like this before when I was working at an institution that had a US Air Force contract to train technical trainers in Riyahd. This was back in the 80s, but i had not kept up with the trends. It was a plum assignment because evaluation of results was a joke. Nobody cared and the cash kept flowing.

Sounds like it has stayed constant.

The Saudis are hardly capable of using their weapons even if they work. The Saudi military is the repository of second sons of Saudi families where the first son got the family business. The second sons have the education to be officers but no motivation to learn their weapon systems or fight. They can outsource the fighting to the Americans. Saudi junior officers just want to sit around with their buddies and drink tea. The military is just a social club for them.

Saudi field grade officers who come to America for training simply don’t show up and get a courtesy certificate of graduation. If a Saudi prince comes to training, he may get a Distinguished Foreign Officer Graduate certificate without showing up in class. A lot of the money they pay us for training and weapons is wasted. That’s fine with them. And me.

The Saudi enlisted men are dumb as rocks. Our technical manuals are written at the eleventh grade level. They have to be dumbed down to the sixth grade level for the Saudi enlisted guys. There’s no chance of these ignorant dufuses operating their weapon systems without Americans leading them by the hand.

When Iraq invaded Kuwait, the Saudis didn’t even consider defending themselves. They had no confidence in their military or weapons and rightfully so. The Saudis are incompetent in just about anything. When the King invited American forces into Saudi Arabia to defend it against Saddam, it was a major scandal among the Saudi population, who wondered what all those billions spent on weapons had bought them? Nothing, as it turns out.

Selling advanced weapons to the Saudis is like selling F-16s and helicopter gunships to the Crips and Bloods. Sure it sounds like a bad idea on the face of it but in reality there’s no chance that they’ll figure out how to use them. They’ll rust to pieces before they can ever be used against us.

“The review … was undertaken after an analysis by Seton Hall University, a private university in New Jersey, of the detainee system found only 8 per cent of detainees were al-Qaeda fighters.”

That “analysis” was really the work of the ‘Guantanamo Bay Bar Association‘ It was prepared for their October 2006 ‘Guantanano Teach-in’ conducted at Seton Hall University.

Mohammed Atta II is likely among those released, who is preparing to cross our porous borders or already on our streets planning.