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1. #1
   On July 31st, 2007 at 12:24 am, Tom Shakely said:

   How many more need to die at the hands of the “religion of peace” for world leaders to admit that Radical Islam needs to be addressed in a meaningful way?

2. #2
   On July 31st, 2007 at 12:44 am, PBoilermaker said:

   I wonder how many intelligence assets we have in the area? The people who dumped the body had to have originated from somewhere.

   We need to take these cowards down. Isn’t it odd that the creatures that do this kind of thing (kill innocents to get their buddies released) never have to worry about said buddies winding up dead on a street somewhere if -our- demands aren’t met? If you ever wondered which side is truly evil in these situations, it doesn’t take much to figure it out.

3. #3
   On July 31st, 2007 at 1:20 am, gippergirl said:

   May God be with his family. May he rest in peace. May justice be served.

4. #4
   On July 31st, 2007 at 1:22 am, allie said:

   My want for justice is being outweighed to the want of raging revenge.

5. #5
   On July 31st, 2007 at 1:27 am, puhiawa said:

   Christians have no right be exist! (Channeling the modern Democrats, who pretend to be Christians while trying to destroy it).

6. #6
   On July 31st, 2007 at 2:29 am, berkeleythurm said:

   Of course, I’m waiting for the moral equivalent crowd to start clamoring about the Crusades and the numerous cases of innocent hostages abducted by the conniving Christian cabal we have in this country (wink, wink).

7. #7
   On July 31st, 2007 at 2:30 am, Schweggie said:

   Also, in the background of the hostage video of the women, a talibani says this is because the Americans underestimated the Taliban in Afghanistan. Taking unarmed missionaries hostage. Godless animals. Thanks for steeling our resolve, monsters. I think this story gets legs tomorrow, with giant swaths of credit going to Michelle, again.

8. #8
   On July 31st, 2007 at 6:19 am, jamesgreenidge said:

   God Save The Hostages

   It’s going to behoove the South Korean government to take some action, military or covert, apart from whatever the Afghanistan government is able or willing to do, whether they were dragged into the situation or not, just to save face as a world power to the North and the region. It doesn’t look good when a band of murderous bigots is able to checkmate a major power and get away with it. Any kind of response helps all. You don’t ever want to give terrorists the notion that this kind of thing pays off, and the ugly part is they can do such kidnapping as effectively within your own country if they were ever up to it.

   Again my prayers to the hostages. I just can’t imagine the lonely terror they’re experiencing now.

   James Greenidge
   Queens NY

9. #9
   On July 31st, 2007 at 6:59 am, zorro said:

   Pray for these and for all hostages held by these insane people.

10. #10
    On July 31st, 2007 at 7:53 am, Bicyea said:

    Killed by the Taliban in the name of Allah.

    Killed by the Taliban and Lucifer hiding behind the name of Allah.

11. #11
    On July 31st, 2007 at 8:53 am, johnfleetwood said:

    I hope our friends in Korea decide to send some of their excellent troops to join in the fray with the Taliban. I vividly remember the quality of the Korean troops in the Vietnam War. The Korean troops were much feared by the North Vietnamese and Viet Cong. I think it is pay back time for the Taliban.

12. #12
    On July 31st, 2007 at 8:54 am, Tantor said:

    Delta Force. SEALs. Now.

13. #13
    On July 31st, 2007 at 9:27 am, gregorystephens said:

    There is NO way that what the Taliban is doing is HOLY! It is pure EVIL and Bicyea (#10) hit the nail on the head.

14. #14
    On July 31st, 2007 at 9:40 am, EdDantes said:

    South Korea is pulling it’s forces out of Afghanistan by December and I think mood being portrayed in S. Korea is anti-military.

    Anyone know how this is being played in the Korean media?

    Now that two hostages have been killed, it has to be worth the chance to attempt to save the hostages by force. I hope that if I’m ever in the same situation that the US governement uses the full power and capability of our military to save me!

15. #15
    On July 31st, 2007 at 9:53 am, zeroangel said:

    Anyone know how this is being played in the Korean media?

    I posted this yesterday:

    http://www.rjkoehler.com/

    Look near the bottom after the stuff about the Myeongdong Cathedral.

    The guy who writes this blog is an English + Korean as a second language speaking expat living in Korea. He works as an editor for a Korean magazine. He himself claims that one shouldn’t use his blog as a portal or source for information on Korea, but I don’t think he gives himself enough credit. You can get a good idea of the media astmosphere in Korea by reading his blog and links from it, plus it’s in english.

    Basically, from what I can see, the media in Korea (and even the Korean government) is blaming the victims and even the USA. Basically, placing blame everywhere other than where it belongs.

16. #16
    On July 31st, 2007 at 10:21 am, shooter said:

    On July 31st, 2007 at 12:44 am, PBoilermaker said:
    I wonder how many intelligence assets we have in the area?

    Sadly, the clintons decided we don’t need any operatives or assets pretty much anywhere. It will take many more years to put said ‘intelligence’ in place.

17. #17
    On July 31st, 2007 at 10:26 am, CrazyFool said:

    I’m sure if the American media covered this at all they would blame Bush, the USA, and Christians as well.

    Where the hell is the media in this anyway? Covering their murdering allies backs by refusing to cover this story.

18. #18
    On July 31st, 2007 at 10:36 am, berkeleythurm said:

    http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/07/31/asia/afghan.2-106437.php

    Here’s an article from the International Herald Tribune that reinforces the points many of you have been making about whose being held responsible in South Korea for the kidnappings. The most interesting quotes from the article:

    “Paik Jin Hyun, an associate dean at the Graduate School of International Studies of Seoul National University, said that if the hostage crisis did not conclude satisfactorily, anti-U.S. groups in South Korea might use it to promote anti-American sentiments in South Korea.” – IHT.com

    It’s a recurring trend where Islamic terrorist organizations have literally frightened the world from even becoming enraged over their atrocities. So many, including in the West, have redirected their natural anger towards everyone except for those who should be held 100% accountable for their actions.

19. #19
    On July 31st, 2007 at 10:37 am, walterc said:

    This is a time for the Karzai government to use the only pursuasion these people understand. . .brute force.

    In response to this second hostage killing and the first hostage killing, 4 of those taliban prisoners should be taken out into the public square and shot.

    Or better yet, one taliban controlled village should be levelled for each hostage death.

    The official reasoning by the government would be, the taliban aren’t negotiating in good faith to resolve the situation.

20. #20
    On July 31st, 2007 at 10:44 am, zeroangel said:

    Another thing that really irks me:

    You can see from the comments on the site I posted that the prevailing attitude is that the Korean hostages were “stupid” or “naive.”

    That also seems to be the attitude of many Koreans in general from what I can gather following the many links and articles.

    What I can’t seem to understand, is why aren’t the hostages thought as being BRAVE? They were willing to put themselves at enormous risk in effort to help other people and/or for thief beliefs, and that is NAIVE? Truly a shame.

21. #21
    On July 31st, 2007 at 10:46 am, zeroangel said:

    oops, theif = their.

    Geeezzz, I await the taunts .

22. #22
    On July 31st, 2007 at 10:53 am, Kevin from Ohio in Virginia said:

    walterc,

    Sadly, you are mistaken along with a lot of other people. The biggest misconception of this war is that the Islamofascists only understand brute force.

    The truth is that they DO NOT understand brute force. If we were to kill 4 of the Taliban prisoners, they would rejoice that 4 of their brethren were martyred for Allah. If we were to level a village, they would rejoice in the praise that Allah is now receiving directly from each of the dead villagers. They are sick and twisted lunatics who have no clue that we’re not sending them to Paradise.

    In short, the only way to stop Islamofascism, in my humble opinion, is to kill all of them. There is no body count that will make them sit down with us with an earnest desire to make peace. If there is one Islamofascist left on Earth, he will be plotting the death of the United States.

23. #23
    On July 31st, 2007 at 10:54 am, Schweggie said:

    Moving video of Korean missionaries before abduction
    
    Another

24. #24
    On July 31st, 2007 at 11:18 am, changjin89 said:

    Tuesday Greetings Mrs. Malkin and loyal community. Thank you again for your continuing close attention to the missionaries’ kidnapping in Afghanistan.

    It is important to note as has been done on this thread that many academic, media, and government people in Korea are ready to place the blame for this crime on the USA, rather than on the Islamist Taliban where it belongs. We are familiar with the “Blame America” tendency amongst academics and media people in the USA. Some of it is chronic Marxist calculation; some of it is “Stockholm Syndrome” reflex. In Korea, the matter is much aggravated by the fact that in a fit of absence of mind, the Korean electorate brought Roh Moo-hyun to the Blue House in 2002, much as did the USA voters elect Jimmy Carter in 1976. Roh’s closest advisors are fairly uniformly anti-American. Until his election, Roh was nothing more than a smart-mouthed prosecutor, a fresh face in politics. Since then, the Korean electorate has much regretted their choice. While even from the time of Lee Seung-man USA-ROK relations have never been easy, Korean media and academic types from their own predelictions much overstate such Korean animosity towards the USA as there may be. If the “Grand National Party” candidate (either Lee Myung-bak or Park Geun-hye) is elected in December 2007, it can be expected that the policy of the Korean government (and the tone of much of the Korean media) will be greatly changed.

    Only right now, for service in Afghanistan we need a Korean hero in the mold of a Lee Soon-shin or Dae Jo-young!

25. #25
    On July 31st, 2007 at 11:31 am, Schweggie said:

    Great post Changjin…
    What do think about Oh Se Hoon? I was informed that he had a great shot at ousting Roh next election.

26. #26
    On July 31st, 2007 at 11:42 am, Schweggie said:

    Jawa has heartbreaking pictures of second victim. Do NOT go if you are feint of heart. You will want to break something, as I do now…

27. #27
    On July 31st, 2007 at 12:48 pm, teljax said:

    Nothing but silence from the worlds so called “moderate muslims”…..Is there any wonder why I believe islam is the greatest evil the world has ever known.

28. #28
    On July 31st, 2007 at 12:54 pm, changjin89 said:

    What do think about Oh Se Hoon? I was informed that he had a great shot at ousting Roh next election.

    I must allow that the resolution of my Korean political radarscope leaves much to be desired, and so I am not aware of such groundswell in Mayor Oh’s favor as you may be informed of. He is fairly new to the mayor’s office in Seoul, and aside from his advertised confidence in the city’s tapwater (and maybe also the fact that nobody is putting investigators on his tail such as another has to contend with) it is not clear why he would be already a contender for this year’s Presidential race.

    Surely there are others in this community with better insight into Korea’s Decision 2007.

29. #29
    On July 31st, 2007 at 1:53 pm, captivated_dem said:

    Does anybody care yet?

    I am a nobody, that cares. Beyond calling my Senator to make him aware of this atrocity, or calling our Ambassador to Afghanistan, what can I do to help.

30. #30
    On July 31st, 2007 at 1:56 pm, olblueyes said:

    If I was in charge in Korea I’d send a public statement to the Taliban saying that for every hostage killed the Republic of Korea will deploy another one hundred soldiers to Afghanistan to hunt down, capture and kill Taliban where ever they can be found. I’m sure this is the opposite of their intended outcome and as it stands now I can’t imagine anything else having a negating influence on the taking of South Korean hostages in that country.

    Reading all I have about the political will of ROK’s leadership I seriously can’t imagine this happening. Also somebody in the Taliban leadership probably ordered these abductions with the prior knowledge that South Korea was already planning on withdrawing troops by the end of the year. They could then use their heinous actions as propaganda and a recruiting tool claiming how they forced the infidels out of their country through the abducting and killing of their hostages. Slowly the coalition of the willing is being eroded…

    I think its time we take the fight back to the enemy…and into Pakistan!

31. #31
    On July 31st, 2007 at 2:15 pm, PBoilermaker said:

    I think its time we take the fight back to the enemy…and into Pakistan!

    Trust me, this is (and has been) getting done. You just don’t hear about it because Afghanistan doesn’t get the coverage Iraq does.

32. #32
    On July 31st, 2007 at 2:47 pm, gayle said:

    I just wonder what GOD is saying to Himself as He watches His creation running amok.

    We know what Satan thinks because his desires are being acted out in front of each and everyone of us.

    Christians HAVE to stand together and fight the evil that is prevailing in every corner in the world.

    How? By standing up for our beliefs no matter how much we are scorned and mocked.

    In the end, we answer only to GOD and His Son.

33. #33
    On July 31st, 2007 at 3:13 pm, Yashmak said:

    You don’t have to be Christian to realize this sort of thing is evil.

    “The Kabul and Korean governments are lying and cheating. They did not meet their promise of releasing Taliban prisoners”

    Laughable, since no such promise was made.

34. #34
    On July 31st, 2007 at 3:15 pm, PBoilermaker said:

    It is a mistake to negotiate with terrorists and although the loss of innocent life is at stake, the absolute worst thing to do would be to release the terrorist prisoners.

    If Korea wants to ignorantly blame the US and focus their rage everywhere except at the terrorists who deserve it, that can’t be helped.

    The fate of these innocent souls is in God’s hands now. I hope the remainder of their ordeal is as painless as possible.

35. #35
    On July 31st, 2007 at 3:27 pm, gayle said:

    These terrorist are void of any compassion or empathy.
    It is more than just brainwashing.

    It is EVIL, plain and simple.

    Their souls are consumed with nothing but hatred. They kill their own without flinching.

    The devil’s play toys is what they are.

36. #36
    On July 31st, 2007 at 4:16 pm, bear1909 said:

    Dear House Speaker Pelosi:

    What do you think of your do-nothing initiatives in Congress to de-fund the war?

    How do you think these thugs in Afghanistan view your Congressional leadership abilities given your vocal and practical undercutting of anything military in the USA (including Fleet Week in San Francisco)?

    Do you think you have any blood on your hands? Do you think that racketeer John Murtha has any blood on his hands?
    Or how about Senators Feinstein or Senator Boxer? Or Representative Barbara Lee (who does not speak for me!)?

    Before you decide what you *think* your mandate is, and commit to a course of defeat and surrender to the murdering religious minions of *ISLAM*, have a look at the photographs of the executed South Korean missionaries.

    Ask yourself what obligation you have to confront Islamic war efforts against the East and West where people are doing their utmost to live in free and open societies, free from 8th century norms of religious perversions for political gain.

    How do you sleep at night, Madame Speaker, knowing you haven’t an ounce of moral fiber?

    God rest their souls working for peace in the hearts of the wretched.

    (my name and address witheld from this forum)

37. #37
    On July 31st, 2007 at 4:20 pm, purplepeep said:

    I thought civilized religions didn’t make human sacrifices to their bloodthirty gods. Oh, that’s right – we’re talking about Islam here.

    The good and decent people being held as human sacrifices to the regional jihadist deity need either a Divine or an earthly intervention. Or both. May their faith be strong.

38. #38
    On July 31st, 2007 at 4:29 pm, olblueyes said:

    You just don’t hear about it because Afghanistan doesn’t get the coverage Iraq does.

    Every once in awhile I hear tidbits about goings-on in Afghanistan, such as the 70 or so taliban killed then they tried to ambush the afghan army; i think right around the time this hostage situation broke out. However, it seems the U.S. is replaying the Vietnam war here, waiting for the taliban to leave their safehaven in Pakistan (North Waziristan) and come venturing down into Afghanistan to wreak havoc at will. As long as the Taliban is free to roam the remote mountaineous region between these two countries, the original goal of denying terrorists a safe haven remains unfulfilled. I don’t need to know specifics of covert operations in Pakistan, but i would feel better knowing something is being done about it.

    It can’t be that hard to launch about two dozen UAV’s to monitor the border and have them blow the crap out of anything travelling in the mountains. I’m sure there is something I am missing here…

39. #39
    On July 31st, 2007 at 4:39 pm, Leatherneck said:

    I care. It is like that Muslim Malvo who shot folks every other day. Who will be next and when, is the terror these followers of the religion of peace what you to feel.

40. #40
    On July 31st, 2007 at 5:50 pm, 24Klady said:

    I see absolutely no difference between members of the Taliban and the groupies that followed Charles Manson. They can justify their evil to the world and never see it is against every norm in the civilized world. They either need execution or being locked up for life. Other than intelligence gathering (which POTUS just placed under new restrictions) I see no reason to take prisoners. They don’t – unless they can ransom them. Deepest sympathy to the families of these young people.

41. #41
    On July 31st, 2007 at 6:14 pm, RedWinged Blackbird said:

    Interesting thread at Ummah.com. This seems to be the most popular English language Muslim forum (at least as far as I can tell). It’s based in the U.K. and is not generally regarded as jihadist.

42. #42
    On July 31st, 2007 at 6:56 pm, blacktygrrrr said:

    These hostages are already dead. It is tragic, it makes me angry, but they cannot be rescued through diplomacy. The only solution is a military one. “Scorched Earth” cannot be a slogan. It has to be policy.

    Dialogue with these animals has never worked. It is time to find the, torture them, and then kill them.

    http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/2007/05/03/we-are-at-wartorture-early-often-and-repeatedly/

    http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/2007/04/03/turn-iran-and-syria-into-50000-hole-golf-courses/

    We can sing kumbaya and start a love train once they are gone from the Earth.

    I pray to God I am wrong about the hostages. I am not wrong about the hostage takers.

    Respectfully,

    eric

43. #43
    On July 31st, 2007 at 7:30 pm, 24Klady said:

    I find it against everything I’ve been taught to encourage the “scorched earth, take no prisoners” line. However, in times of absolute honesty, whatever direction we take at this point must be one of preserving humanity. Not barbarity, not of total submission to anything that would foster this kind of insanity. Blacktygrrr, the assumption they are all lost is more probably right than wrong.

    And, Paris Hilton’s house is on the market for $4.2 million.

44. #44
    On July 31st, 2007 at 7:50 pm, PBoilermaker said:

    I’d seriously wager that more people know about Paris’ real estate dealings than this hostage situation.

45. #45
    On July 31st, 2007 at 10:08 pm, Schweggie said:

    Does scorched earth serve as an effective deterrent to future hostage taking though with these godless zealots who are more than happy to die themselves? I don’t know the answer to that question…

46. #46
    On July 31st, 2007 at 11:25 pm, doingwhatican said:

    For every hostage they kill, we should kill the ones they want freed.

47. #47
    On August 1st, 2007 at 2:19 am, Craig said:

    When is South Korea going to wake up and smell the jihad?

48. #48
    On August 1st, 2007 at 8:08 am, Just A Grunt said:

    Fox News tv is reporting that the Afghans have launched a mission to rescue the hostages. Details are sketchy.