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1. #1
   On July 31st, 2007 at 10:16 pm, olblueyes said:

   The flush to judgment continues. Where’s the ACLU?

   that’s heeee-larious!

   can we flush them too???!!!

2. #2
   On July 31st, 2007 at 10:19 pm, PBoilermaker said:

   Good to go. It will be hard to fight CAIR’s enormous budget and political influence, but every victory for the rights of free Americans is a good one and the proper precedent needs to be set from the start.

3. #3
   On July 31st, 2007 at 10:35 pm, zorro said:

   You did a great job on this topic Monday night on the Factor.

   I’ll kick in a few bucks. But I’m saving some money for your next trip to Iraq, a Victory Tour… God willing.

4. #4
   On August 1st, 2007 at 12:23 am, swj719AWG said:

   Where’s the ACLU?

   WHy, they are getting ready to defend those poor, helpless muslims. Where else would they be?

5. #5
   On August 1st, 2007 at 12:46 am, CC said:

   SWJ: “Where else would they be?” Great question! We know the answer. It certainly isn’t defending Americans. That would be too American.

6. #6
   On August 1st, 2007 at 12:54 am, MikeOK said:

   The only way that this incident can be prosecuted as a “hate crime” is if the courts in New York decide that expressing anger over an ideology by desecrating one of its symbols is the equivalent of making violent threats against a specific person or group of people.

   If that happens, then New York will have set a dangerous precedent for the erosion of freedom of speech in this country.

   And since there should be no legally discernible difference between the act of defecating on a Koran and submerging a Crucifix in a jar of urine, Andres Serrano had better find a good attorney.

7. #7
   On August 1st, 2007 at 7:02 am, gunslingerpatriot said:

   MikeOK-I agree with you regarding serrano’s work of art, but there is always a double standard in treating various religious groups.

   In short: Christians and Jews are very-very-very BAD. muslims, athesists, agnostics and satanists are to be treated as GOOD.

   Ask any Christian who has faced legal trouble in this country for defending their beliefs or reputation. I know Naval Hospital Corps School comes to mind!

8. #8
   On August 1st, 2007 at 7:34 am, gregorystephens said:

   I think this guy would have a lot more support from the media and the ACLU if only he was an illegal immigrant. Seems they have more rights than law abiding legal citizens these days.

9. #9
   On August 1st, 2007 at 8:04 am, TMoney said:

   When the evidence is presented, it will be apparent that this Koran was trying to commit suicide. The same thing happened to me when I was target practicing one day. That book just jumped right in front of my target. Not a thing I could do.
   Like me, Shmulevich was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.
   On a different note, if he was the owner of the book, there is no standing for a case here.
   ACLU needs a new venue - Haiti sounds good.

10. #10
    On August 1st, 2007 at 8:18 am, NeoConNews said:

    I might just be missing this, but who owned the copies of the Koran that he used?

11. #11
    On August 1st, 2007 at 8:43 am, MikeOK said:

    I think the copies of the Koran were owned by the university. So this case should rightfully be considered an incident of vandalism - a slap on the wrist and a small fine.

12. #12
    On August 1st, 2007 at 9:41 am, max said:

    As I recall, the ACL(p)U sure had enough to say when Korans were allegedly flusged by soldiers at GITMO

13. #13
    On August 1st, 2007 at 9:49 am, walterc said:

    I think the copies of the Koran were owned by the university

    Put into this meditation room at taxpayer expense? Were bibles (King James and the one the Catholic church uses), a book of mormon, and torah also provided by the university at taxpayers expense?

    This is another issue, but it should be looked into.

14. #14
    On August 1st, 2007 at 10:01 am, Armigerous said:

    Let me get this straight,Michelle…as I understand it,the koran in question belonged to Pace University…and if that is the case,what other books owned by the University would result in a ‘hate crime’ charge if tossed in the can?…and if this is indeed a ‘hate crime’, does that mean that Pace University is now a member in good standing of the protected ‘victim class’?

15. #15
    On August 1st, 2007 at 10:20 am, Yashmak said:

    There is no mention of this case at all on the ACLU’s page. Given some of the other tripe they are concerned with, you’d think they’d have room to voice at least SOME opinion.

    But of course, they seem to conveniently lack opinions and motivation unless the religious folks being offended are Christians (even though I’m not religious, I can recognize that this is happening. . .that’s how bad it is).

16. #16
    On August 1st, 2007 at 10:35 am, The Raging Republican said:

    Where’s the ACLU??

    This guy is white.

17. #17
    On August 1st, 2007 at 10:54 am, Morganfrost said:

    Excuse me, but did anybody else notice that the detective who is named on the criminal complaint is “Unknown [sic] Faisal Khan?”

    Think he might have an axe to grind?

18. #18
    On August 1st, 2007 at 10:57 am, englishqueen01 said:

    Political correctness: the shovel with which we’re digging our own graves.

19. #19
    On August 1st, 2007 at 11:16 am, jukin said:

    The founders of this great nation are spinning furiously in their graves.

20. #20
    On August 1st, 2007 at 11:37 am, NeoConNews said:

    Oh good, maybe we’ll see them on the way down.

21. #21
    On August 1st, 2007 at 11:37 am, jrlingreenbay said:

    “Excuse me, but did anybody else notice that the detective who is named on the criminal complaint is “Unknown [sic] Faisal Khan?”

    Think he might have an axe to grind?”

    While that did raise an eyebrow with me at first - fair and rational thought dictates that we don’t jump to conclusions about that.

    Just because the investigating detective MAY be Muslim ( which we don’t know ) - doesn’t preclude him from being fair.

    If that were the case, would we then have to remove a Catholic investigator from a crime against a Catholic? Or have a black investigator recuse himself from a white on black crime?

    Let’s stay focused on what we know and not make a jump without knowing the facts or without evidence of retaliation.

22. #22
    On August 1st, 2007 at 1:11 pm, jferg49 said:

    The founders of this great nation are spinning furiously in their graves

    Founding fathers?…Those christian slave owning rich white guys…how dare you bring them up. Allah will strike you down for your corrupt blasphemy….just because those folks brought a modern day democracy that everone wants to emulate..and they wrote a document that has withstood the ravages of time…they were all bigoted hate mongering white devils…and deserve no mention in the new America..you know..the one where every bathroom will have footbaths for all those flip-flop wearing muslims…you should be arrested for a hate crime…you must hate muslims for bringing up those founding fathers…wait..that’s cool with me…never mind

23. #23
    On August 1st, 2007 at 1:48 pm, orlandocajun said:

    jferg49 you had me going until the end…nice work!

    Where’s the ACLU? They’re probably conferencing with CAIR on sentencing strategy. Does anyone know if this law has been tested for constitutionality? It’s obviously a free speech issue, but then again the Supreme idiots did hand down the Kelo decision.

    Finally, what in the hell is wrong with New York? Are they worried about a cab driver strike?

24. #24
    On August 1st, 2007 at 2:19 pm, Heartland Perspective said:

    heehee I have the monkey trio sitting on top of my monitor.

    How many last straws are we going to tolerate?

25. #25
    On August 1st, 2007 at 3:21 pm, Dersu said:

    FROM HERE

    “CAIR: FBI Probes Web Site Showing Shooting of Quran
    Source: Associated Press

    Federal authorities are looking into a video that shows two men shooting a Quran with a military rifle, then throwing the bullet-riddled Muslim holy book at the entrance of a a Chattanooga mosque, an FBI agent said Monday.

    The Washington-based Council on American-Islamic Relations on Monday had called on the Justice Department to investigate the incident as a possible civil rights violation. The group said it was the latest in a series of incidents targeting mosques in several states. . .

    The video, titled ” kill the koran” was posted on MySpace.com last month, said CAIR spokesman Ibrahim Hooper. It could still be seen on the Web site on Monday.”

    And Bill O has his photo on the CAIR website now.
    They love Bill now!
    You can even see his video showing his support here.

26. #26
    On August 1st, 2007 at 3:28 pm, twoninerkilo said:

    There’s something in the water in New York.