John Edwards: Elect me because I hate Fox News the most
John Edwards is on a nutroots roll (hat tip: William Amos):
John Edwards criticized Democratic rival Hillary Rodham Clinton on Thursday for taking more than $20,000 in donations from News Corp. officials, arguing that the company’s Fox News Channel has a right-wing bias and Democrats should avoid the company.
Edwards led the Democratic candidates’ boycott of Fox’s plans to host a Democratic presidential debate. Now he is objecting to News Corp.’s purchase of Wall Street Journal publisher Dow Jones & Co. and highlighting the relationships that Clinton and other rivals have with the company’s executives.
“The time has come for Democrats to stop pretending to be friends with the very people who demonize the Democratic Party,” Edwards said in a statement.
Looks like he’s rehearsing his speech for the Yearly Kos convention.
The campaign timed the challenge to come two days before Edwards, Clinton and other candidates are scheduled to appear at a convention of liberal bloggers, who applauded Edwards’ revolt against the Fox-sponsored debate in March.
Most of Murdoch’s donations go to Republicans, but he gave $4,200 to Clinton’s Senate campaign in 2006 and held a fundraiser for her at News Corp.’s midtown headquarters. He also donated $2,300 to her presidential campaign, according to online campaign donation database Political MoneyLine. Murdoch’s son James, who is seen by many as a likely candidate to eventually succeed his 76-year-old father, gave $3,450.
A Political MoneyLine search of donors employed by News Corp. finds $20,900 in donations to Clinton’s presidential bid from nine company attorneys and executives, including Murdoch’s No. 2, Peter Chernin, who gave the maximum $4,600 allowed.
Chernin is a frequent donor to Democratic causes. He’s also contributed $2,100 each to Democratic presidential candidates Barack Obama and Chris Dodd, Political MoneyLine shows.
No comment yet from those rivals.
What will Hillary do?
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And Gen. Hillary is doing gymnastics.
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If MM cares about objective journalism she would oppose Murdoch’s tentacles around a pillar of journalism Dow Jones. But, alas, she does not, she only wants more right-wing biased reporting.
Wait. Haven’t the Dems loudly condemned polarizing/divisive politicking fairly recently?
Oh, right, consistency isn’t one of their strong suits.
I’m so inspired. He should really be the next president. Seriously. We need someone with good hair and a firm hatred of Fox.
So, between Hillary’s FP flipping, Obama’s surrendering of our nukes, and Edwards content to start censoring all things Right, we have enough fodder to just start flooding the airwaves with “Do we really want to elect these people?” ads.
Time for the GOP to grow a pair and go on the attack. And in the meantime toss the corrupticans out and instill fresh blood.
FEED THE TROLL AND WATCH IT GROW
Billary will keep the money.
Will not comment unless pushed to.
Yeah MikeB, it’s right-wing bias that’s the problem with the media. That’s the ticket. Afterall, we all know Murdoch has the time to sign off on each article written in the pages of the outlets he owns. Yeah.
Those arguing there’s a liberal bias in the media have tons of well supported studies behind them.
Those arging there’s a conservative bias have nothing but a strident cry “But Murdoch is a conservative and he owns blah blah blah” repeated endlessly until those with actual evidence simply give up and stop arguing.
Mike be=pot
MM=kettle
As opposed to MSNBC and the NYTimes relationship. If Fox News is the only example you can produce of a “right wing bias” what does that say of NBC, CNN, CBS, ABC and all print media?
Wrong again friends, Murdoch turns all his papers into his own house all organ to praise his friends and attack his enemies. Usually the “enemies” are on the left or are business rivals. Although sometimes his friends are Communists (like in China) and he needs a satellite contract, so he goes easy on them. That’s Murdoch Media.
Tell Ya what MikeB. We’ll trade you. You get Fox News, AM talk radio, a very few newspapers and magazines, and in return we get ABC, NBC, CBS, NPR, PBS, CNN, CNNH, CNNi,CNBC, BBC, The New York, LA and Washington Times, Chicago Sun, and every other liberal rag news paper in the country, as well as Newsweek, Time, Reuters, AP, AOL, ect. etc. etc. They all spend their days shilling for the Demorats under the very thin guise of objectivity. C’mon….we’ll trade you any day of the week!!!
Well at least with Murdoch in charge they have a chance of posting a profit, unlike all of the other media outlets who are bleeding cash and losing viewers and subscribers.
Lux, the solution to allegedly biased media is not more bias, it is no bias. MM has no problem with Fox–or should I say the Anna Nichole network, since they spend more time on her death than Iraq.
And another thing, doesn’t MM have a problem being a “contributor” to a Hillary contributor?
I heard this, this, this…OH! Bother!
I heard Breck Girl rambling about this the other day whining that “they want to shut me up” or something equally mentally deficient.
BG doesn’t even know the definition of a rich person so how can he be trusted to know what the meaning of the word “IS” “IS”?
He’s afraid to talk with FOX? How is he going to deal with Iran? Even Barak wants to talk to Iran.
Fox is the absolute best cable news channel in the world. All-American all the time. That’s what I want. Not “world news”, but news for Americans. The only things wrong with FNC are too little Michelle Malkin, too much Geraldo El Mustachio, and they could stand to have more American flags worked into the graphics, and more troop-embed stories from the war.
No matter how hard he tries his hair doesnt look that good and he’s going bald fast. Ditch the compact mirror get a brain, some head wax and a buffer. geez what an ego……
Mike BB this should make you happy then. Look who is going to be speaking at the Kos convention.
11# Ford Foundation and George Soros’s Open Society Foundation ,infulences the Media including- Cable News, much more then Rupert Murdoch.
As for hating Fox News, I believe that is the memo, John Edwards recieved from Move on org, I forget who funnels money into Move on again…yeah nobody has forgotten or John Edward’s War on Terror statement, The War on Terror is just a Bumper Sticker.
I was watching Lou Dobbs last night- on
CNN, Lou Dobbs stated that the Ford Foundation and George Soros’s Open Society, both give money that ends up in Islamic Charities and these charities in turn, may be funneling that money to terrorist organizations.
I really don’t have a problem with a Captalist making money, it’s sort of their thing.
[quote]Fox is the absolute best cable news channel in the world. All-American all the time. That’s what I want. Not “world news”, but news for Americans.[/quote]
God help us all….
U.N.N.N.——-
United Nations News Network
…..the most corrupt name in news……..
Don’t like Murdoch? Start your own multimedia international conglomorate corporation. It can be as liberal as you want. It’s a free country, last time I checked.
MikeB:
Point to a NEWS story on Fox that is biased.
Not a commentary – like O’Reilly or Hannity, but a NEWS piece.
The fact is that Fox has a conservative editorial bias – there’s no doubt of that.
But their news isn’t slanted. Just because they choose NOT to run countless repetitive negative stories about Iraq, like the liberally biased news outlets do – doesn’t mean they are not legitimate.
We’ve seen what liberals call legitimate; Dan Rather’s National Guard Story for one….that was truly fair and balanced, wasn’t it? Wasn’t Dan Rather supposed to be doing news? Not sensationalizing a poorly researched story just before an election with the obvious goal to disrupt the Republican candidate?
I find it completely hypocritical of Edwards to be a member of the ‘we all have to get along’ party, but heap such scorn on a media outlet like this – and even refuse to participate in a debate hosted by it. Millions of Americans watch Fox. Is he saying that our input doesn’t count because we’re ‘right-wing’? Do only liberal viewers matter to him?
Oh, I see now – his two Americas aren’t rich and poor – they are left and right.
That explains everything.
I can’t believe that Edwards is still being considered a front-runner. I mean has he even talked about any real issue other than Fox News and his hair?
God will help us all, if we watch enough FNC and be sure to vote against liberals whenever possible like good Americans should. Then all will fall into place…………..mwuhahahahahaha!
jrl, you proved my point. The WSJ’s new stories are not (for the most part) slanted to the right. The problem with Murdoch is when he takes over, he changes that, best example is the Times of London. The problem with Fox as with all cable networks is they do very little journalism, as in investigative reporting. There should be more reporters and less commentators.
Any Presidential candidate that is unwilling to use nuclear weapons under no circumstance is not qualified to be my President. What happens if we’re attacked first with nukes? I guess the response will be a statement of disapproval from the United Nations. The Dems don’t want to hear anybody’s view but their own “superior” view. This is an attempt to censure views of other people. This is right out of the Hugo Chavez playbook chapter 1.
Edwards is third (at best) in a two horse race. Time to move on (unless we can make fun of his hair).
According to Edwards
Yet, I don’t remember him complaining about the AOL-Time Warner merger. I guess liberal getting more liberal is ok.
It’s not the government’s job to determine who should or should not buy Dow Jones. Last time I checked, we the people of America can choose what we want to read and watch. For example, I don’t read the NY Times even though I live in NYC.
By opposing the Dow Jones merger and being the first to refuse a Fox News debate, Edwards is giving us all a taste of his polarizing policies that only consider the opinions of the left.
MikeB, would you either make a valid point or quit posting such ridiculous crap. We get it, you think Fox News is biased. But, I gotta tell you, for someone so against Fox News, you sure do know a lot about it. And, FYI, Fox News reports all the time on the war in Iraq, you probably just tune out because they sometimes report positive things that happen for the US and the Iraqis.
And, I reiterate my point, who cares if Fox News takes a more conservative approach? We are all big boys and girls and can make our own decisions.
MikeB, if you want your filtered media, head to China or Cuba.
Don’t be afraid of the invisible hand!
Hey MikeB, that means Screwball Matthews and Keith Olberdork have to hit the bricks too, right? More reporters and less commentary would put MSM out of business. I don’t see what your problem is with FOX. Don’t like it, don’t watch it. I personally despise Keith Olberdork, so I don’t watch him or his channel. Because I choose to watch another perspective on the events of the day. Why do you want to limit my choices?
There is just something liberating about that. He is only around on a bet. Someone bet Michelle she could not take him for a year.
Pop quiz, dudes and dudettes:
Essay question-
In what way, shape, or form does the United States of America need John Edwards as its President?
Must exceed five words. Do not refer to his subsidy of the affordable hair care industry.
This has finally made up my mind about the Republican field. Who cares about the War on Terror, Taxes, or any other issues. I will vote for the Republican who can prove to me they have the most hate for CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, The New York Times….
One thing he could help with is the White House is a bit cramped these days, so he could use his vast experience with poverty to oversee an expansion of the White House to a more roomy 37,000sq.ft. It’s for the children, people.
EdD, I do watch Fox a lot, just like I read posts on this site. I also read the NY Times, HuffPo, and Andrew Sullivan. I like to listen to all sides. Brian72, I agree about Screwball and Olberdork, as you call them, I personally think CNN, MSNBC, and Fox all suck because they could do so much with all their air time and resources but they squander it on moronic talking head shows and gossip. As far as Fox’s Iraq coverage–studies show it covers Iraq the least.
In the event that we are attacked by a bunch of hair stylists, he would know the proper use of force.
Walterc-
DING DING DING DING!!!!!! Tell him what he won, Bob!
Oh wait. That is improper motivation of “learners”. I could do some serious time in a re-education camp.
MikeB just keep watching your MSNBC, CNN, NBC evening news,60 minutes,etc. and sipping on your Kool-Aid. I will keep watching Foxnews where their motto is We Report You Dicide.Yes, decide I will between what is news and news analysis.
Business is destroying the lives of good, darwin lazy Americans by making them work for money. John Edwards has the right ideas to quickly get rid of this threat.
MikeB’s a troll, please don’t feed him anymore; maybe he’ll go away.
What lurid gooey center inside his fans does John Edwards appeal to?
I don’t know any of his advisors. (Not even from a sack of potatoes.)
But can you imagine the talks around the planning table on how to package John Edwards?
strike the word darwin from my last comment. I decided to write something else.
Fox News Channel………America’s Newsroom………..
That just irritates you libs so much!
American flag pins! OMG! Somebody call Columbia Jschool, these guys are not playing fair! Objectivity requires you to hate conservative ideas, and those who promote them! you can’t take sides in a story, because the liberal side is the only side there is!
Actually I don’t care if liberals don’t like Fox News, I don’t like liberals.
I figure it evens out at the end of the day.
#3 docattheAutopsy: “Time for the GOP to grow a pair and go on the attack.” Oh,if only!
#22 jrlyngreenbay: “Millions of Americans watch Fox. Is he saying that our input doesn’t count because we’re ‘right-wing’? Do only liberal viewers matter to him?
Oh, I see now – his two Americas aren’t rich and poor – they are left and right.”
You said it better than I could. What a hypocrite he is. Is he running for the United States of the Left of America?
MikeB: “The problem with Fox as with all cable networks is they do very little journalism, as in investigative reporting. There should be more reporters and less commentators.”
On this point, partially, I agree with you.
I, like many, am sickened by the never-ending dribble about Lindsay Lohan and Paris Hilton and everything similar, when there are more important issues to be discussed and investigated.
As for Olberman – I’m amazed that he’s still on the air, given that the only two things he apparently can discuss on his program are a.) How bad the Bush Adminstration is, and b.) How bad Fox News is. It’s embarrasing.
Like you, I prefer to get my news from various outlets and read different reports and watch different channels.
Those who villify conservatives as “Fox News Sheep” or whatever their term of choice may be, are discrediting their fellow citizens and not giving us on the conservative side of the aisle credit for actually having an intellect.
But that goes for extremists on both sides of the aisle.
Neither side has a corner on the market for wing-nuts….
But it still doesn’t excuse the hypocracy of Edwards calling for an end to ‘Two Americas’ and for the unification of the country – only to denegrate those who have an opposing view.
He wants unification of the country, all right, he just wants us all to unite to HIS side.
jrl, I can’t believe I’m typing this…but you’re 100% right. As I said I enjoy Fox. They produced the best Presidential debate so far. Fox News Sunday is a great show–with both sides represented. So, I don’t think it’s right to boycott Fox at all.
What is so funny is that Edwards is cutting off his nose to spite his face. Take the Democrat debate that was supposed to be on Fox. According to I believe a Harris poll, less than 30% of Fox viewers consider themselves conservative. The remaining over 70% of moderate to left leaning viewers comrise a viewership much larger than the TOTAL viewership of either CNN or MSNBC. So in order to “punish” FOX, the Democrats ignore the largest single block of viewers they could get on any one network. Sounds alot like their foreign policy. If Bush is for it, we are against it. Short sighted…no???
( The loud noise you just heard was the fainting of conservative posters all across the country after reading that MikeB and a Conservative contributor – AGREE 100%!!!! )
And on that note – I’m punching out for the day! HAH!
Later all -
Edwards should be planning a joint campaign garage sale with McCain. They’re both toast. If it weren’t for his MSM enablers, he’d be totally off the radar.
On-my-soap-box,
Since I do not understand your statement as quoted above, you may not have understood mine.
I was answering the question MM asked at the top.
“What will Hillary do?”
Billary will keep the money.
Will not comment unless pushed to.
I might should have said:
Billary Will not comment unless pushed to.
Dersu
LOL – I thought you were talking about the troll!
Whats so funny about John Edwards is that he pays $400 or more for a hair cut and expects us to take him seriously. As for two Americas. If he did a little channeling with his fourth grade history teacher, as he did with the little girl in court (she’s talking through me). His teacher would have said” Yes Johnny, there are two Americas. They are called North America and South America. Oh by the way where did you get the low budget hair cut”. As for a joint garage sale with McCain. At what garage would that beheld, would it be at Mr. McCains’s or Mr. Edwards.
Silky could not survive in America number two!
The oh-so-tolerant-and-diverse liberals hate Fox News and Murdoch because they dare to acknowledge that there was a small, underserved segment – namely HALF OF THE AMERICAN PUBLIC!!! – that was being ignored by the Treason Media and gave them a place where they weren’t automatically smeared as lunatic Jesus freaks or Nazis.
They hate the loss of their monopoly on information. They hate that people have the Internet to connect with others and learn for themselves what’s going on in the world and not just accept whatever pablum they wish to spoon-feed us. They claim that universities are bastions of freedom of thought while enacting speech codes and allowing conservatives to be howled down and physically assaulted.
Given their druthers – and the unchecked power of the Presidency and Congress – they’d silence conservative talk radio with the (un)Fairness Doctrine; pass legislation to force Murdoch to divest his American media holdings; police all web traffic for violations of “hate speech” laws (read: all conservative thought); regulate blogs for “balance”; and more than we probably can’t imagine at the moment because most of us don’t spend our every waking moment seething with rage and hatred for them.
We simply can’t understand the fevers that motivate them to hate us with such fury. We think they’re horribly wrong, but they think we’re evil and need to be exterminated for the good of all.
Treason media – how appropriate! I love it!
Didn’t Lincoln jail a media member for sedition during the Civil War? And, more importantly, why don’t the Republicans get some backbone and call these acts by dems and their fruitcake media what it is, treason and sedition. Enough is enough!
Yes, lets talk about Edwards’ hair:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VE-8csu7-bk
Edwards will never be President.
Most folks in NC do not appreciate his liberal slant and his fake “good ole boy” attitude.
Even his neighbors cannot stand him.
He is pompous and arrogant at best.
He just likes the media attention.
Let’s not worry about him at this point. He’s OUT.
No doubt about it. I honestly wish the Dems took up their offer.
The left wing does more to demonize the democratic party than the right wing ever could. It was the left wing that kicked out Joe Lieberman and led Ronald Reagan and many others to leave.
Also, the Washington Times is conservative. The Washington Post is the one that is liberal, the ugly kid sister of the Jayson Blair Times. Nevertheless, the point where that was referenced was stellar.
http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/2007/07/20/moveonorg-needs-to-just-move-on/
http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/2007/07/09/democrats-want-to-party-like-its-1968-bring-on-operation-ineptitude/
Hatred is poison, and the democrats need to enter political detox. Perhaps the Betty Ford Cneter has a wing for it.
Respectfully,
eric
1. As anticipated, the ever-spinning Mike B is working hard to turn this into something other than the issue, and that was easy to do, right, “Mike B”? Just insult Michelle Malkin personally again for the millionth time, of course, after she’s been good enough to tolerate your vitriol here in the name of free speech, and then watch the clarity of the subject get lkost in a fog of blather. It’s an old debating trick. Post # 1 is a blatant insult. To Rick Moran and Michelle, it’s time for Mike B to be shown the door now, eh? Seems to me this thread of responses started off with one insult too many from the passive/aggresive topic deflector, Mike B.
2. If anyone thinks the media isn’t biased to the left, here’s some irony for you. I read this under an AP report headed thusly:
Edwards Raps Hillary for Murdoch Ties
By NEDRA PICKLER,AP
If you read the whole article, not once does the fair and balanced AP reporter Nedra Pickler ever quote a response from anyone in Newscorp or their representatives to get their side of the story, Nedra just piles it on thick from the attacking side, and never even once objectively debates the idea that Fox is biased to the right (if one wants to make the case, one can make a better case that CNN is baised to the left, which more than cancels out this whole story but no, we get it straight from the left side of Nedra’s mouth and the left side only)
3. The Dems and the Media keep handing Republicans the issue of making hay about Dems COWARDICE – it is of course, to turn down such a huge worldwide audience for so silly a complaint -to debate on Fox News and still our side takes the “high road” in a game where dirty games often need to be met likewise, if but to cancel the opposition’s gain, let alone to simply call them out loudly for an act of cowardice.
Plain speaking, up front and center about this issue is what’s needed now from our politicians, candidates and pundits. If Edwards wants to make hay on the issue and volunteers it – then for God’s sake and for the sake of kids growing up under Hillary care -
R-E-S-P-O-N-D-!!!
- by calling out the Democratic Presidential Candidates cowardice to debate on Fox, probably the closest thing this country really does have to a fair and balanced cable news network.
R – E – S – P – O – N – D – !
RESPONSE
I said a couple of weeks ago that the TROLL should go. But, the BOSS has her reasons I suppose. I am happy here nevertheless.
I do not respond to any of his blathering.
A troll is someone that puts something that stinks on a hook, dangles it on a line and sits back to wait for a fish to bite. Then he gets to play the fish until it gets to tired to respond to his
artful play. And a truely good troll will return the fish to his waterhole, so that he can play him again tomorrow.
That is why I do not feed trolls.
Like I said ealier, someone bet her she would not keep him around for a year. He will be around longer than Edwards!
Even though he’s a tremendous whinner, I like having the troll around, I need to know how whacked some of these people really are, it keeps me current and gives my ABs a workout now and then.
PS.
I just had a soothing vacation at the Beach and reserve the right to change my mind tomorrow…..
Where is the GOPs SPINE????
NOW that being said it’s time for some plain talk. The Republican Party Leadership and elected officials for the most part lack a set.
This link leads to post with harsh blunt language
http://thecitytroll.blogspot.com/2007/08/where-is-gops-spine.html
City Troll,
Are you the troll the above people are talking about, because if not, and they mean Mike B, then they should speak plainly and simply say Mike B.
“Where is the GOPs SPINE????”
That’s it! very simple. Thank God someone is saying it. We need more. many, many, many more. And also more to my point – where’s the left wing spine, they they are TERRIFIED to debate on Fox News.
I dropped by your blog for just a minute and didn’t read anything, so I won’t comment, but I have to tell you that that image of Uncle Creepy brings back wonderful childhood memories of reading the wrong comics!
Edwards is pathetic. What an outrage there would be if a Republican was doing the same against CNN or NBC.
If this is what the Democrats think they need to do to appear tough for voters, they are delusional. I can’t see them being tough enough for Al Qaeda. Actually, I can’t see them tough enough for anything.
mikeb
katieanne said:
Edwards is pathetic. What an outrage there would be if a Republican was doing the same against CNN or NBC.
He led the charge, but it isn’t just Edwards, it’s all the Democratic candidates. When Bill O’Reilly sent his producers out to ask the Democratic presidential canbidates why they refused to debate on Fox News, did they even make their case to the world then? No, Edwards and Hillary Clinton wouldn’t even stand their ground to a low-level Fox News producer without anywhere near the debate expertise they’d find in an actual Fox News debate. They walked hurriedly away (Clinton) or pretended to be somehow immediately occupied (Edwards). They’ll only make their case to their core audience, where they can get applause for so gross a political act.
Say it again, Katie, say it again. Only louder this time. Much louder, and to everyone you can think of. This is no small issue, it sits at the very apex of what the Founding Fathers intended when they, for example, created the Electoral College. And inspire anyone you can think of to say it also.
And you won’t be alone. Tonight on Fox Dennis Miller brought up the issue angrily as a sidebar before he was sidetracked by o’Reilly. It’s the invisible story, just as real and just as solid as any other story, until people get angry loudly about it, and then it will become not only visible, but significant, perhaps as significant as anything imaginable depending on how the dice roll.
ajmontana said:
mikeb
Thank you, AJMontana. If that’s the case people should stop being coy and say Mike B and say it plainly and directly and insist that he, Mike B, be thrown off the board. Allowing him to stay after repeatedly insulting the host isn’t good manners, it’s being a sap, and that isn’t polite to everyone else in the room – people come here because they like the host, therefore when someone insults the host that person shouyld be asked to leave out of respect for the feelings of the majority. It’s nothing new in the book of good manners, but you’d think it was the way things sometimes operate on the internet.
Remember, loudly, Katie, loudly!
Ah yes, let’s ban a dissenting voice.
Because an echo chamber is oh-so productive. Without dissenting voices, we are no more than a masturbatory echo chamber, engaged in self-aggrandizement posting of commentary we know everyone else already agrees with.
Sorry, but as someone who has argued extensively with MikeB myself, ousting those who disagree with us, even those who insult us, is an awful notion . . .a microcosm of what the Democrats hope to accomplish with the “Fairness Doctrine”.
If anything, he’s the best reason to have this sort of commentary in the first place. His presence here, and those like him, represent people who we might be able to actually bring around, however slim that chance may be.
Yashmak,
This piece of swiss cheeze is getting breezy, so pardon me if I quickly plug it up, one hole at a time:
Ah yes, let’s ban a dissenting voice.
You forgot to add the words intellectually dishonest (he never debates squarely)and continually insulting to our host. When someone is a bad guest, you don’t keep him around for diversity, you kick him out and find diversity among those less inclinded to be out to cause trouble and insult the host.
Because an echo chamber is oh-so productive. Without dissenting voices, we are no more than a masturbatory echo chamber, engaged in self-aggrandizement posting of commentary we know everyone else already agrees with.
There is plenty of dessent within our own ranks, in case you hadn’t noticed. Once again, no reason to keep the creep. Simple. If you find that debating the nuances with those with whom you generally already agree isn’t exciting anough and need real warfare, there are plenty of liberal blogs to keep you from intellectually playing with yourself, as you otherwise put it.
Sorry, but as someone who has argued extensively with MikeB myself, ousting those who disagree with us, even those who insult us, is an awful notion . . .a microcosm of what the Democrats hope to accomplish with the “Fairness Doctrine”.
Except that good discussion on winning the elections could be had here instead of doing what we as conservatives always do – waste valueable time and oxygen running the liberal spin treadmill while they outflank us. If you like that kinda thing, and you seem to be in the minority, now, I suggest you go and debate at the Daily Kos. They’ll give you plenty of diversity and Michelle will have to put up with one less perpetually insulting voice in the form of Mike B.
If anything, he’s the best reason to have this sort of commentary in the first place. His presence here, and those like him, represent people who we might be able to actually bring around, however slim that chance may be.
With a zillion independants around you want to waste your time trying to convert him, and make the case that he should stay, insulting michelle and conservatives as a group to do it?
Have a party and invite anyone who dislikes you, and tell us if you have a good, productive time. There is much to discuss and much to do, and Mike B wastes our time while insulting the host. Simple.
As a resident of NC, I’d like to remind everyone he was NOT re-elected to the Senate by this state.
SOooooooooooo….now we see that Mr. Edwards isn’t immune from taking Murdoch money either….
$800,000 in a book deal from a Murdoch company…. How eeeenteresting…..
The hits just keep onnnnnnnnn coming.
MrCCat no I believe they are talking about Mike B. Thanks for stopping by my blog. By the way those moments reading the wrong comics were always some of the best parts of a rainy afternoon…LOL
The only reasons Edwards is still relevant is because of his hair. Otherwise he’s polling at the same level as John McCain (and they have similar financial situations too) and we consider him to be dead in the water.
and as much as I disagree with 99% of what MikeB has to say, just to ban him ffor having contrary opionion sounds an aawful lot like democratic policy to me. Besides he’s not hurting anyone, and almost all the time his posts get smacked down anyway…and who doesn’t enjoy winning the arguement:)
Taylork,
Well, to repeat some apparently missed points, Mike B constantly insults both Michelle – who, besides being a lovely woman, is also a bigger man than he’ll ever be – which is more than wrong, it’s discourteous; insults conservatives as a group which is rude to say the least in a place clearly recognized as being designed to be conservative-friendly (another backhanded slap at Michelle); and eats away at precious time better spent discussing matters on an intelligent level and not wasting it battling with a really bad imitation of Dan Rather.
No, if he gets thrown off then we aren’t following Democrat policy (let’s not call it “Democratic” – there’s nothing democratic about it), he’s simply being thrown off because he is following democrat policy, and that should be good enough reason for anyone, insults or no.
So you talk about him insulting Michelle, as if that’s a decent reason to remove him (it’s not. . .Michelle can take the insults, I’ve seen her ability to handle them well repeatedly), then you turn around and insult HIM in the same sentence.
There is no need to get rid of him. If you don’t want to read responses to him, there’s this nice scroll bar on the right. You can scroll right on by. Nothing is stopping ‘discussion on winning the elections’ here.
It’s hard to read that particular bit any other way than exactly how I called it before. I display a different point of view, you tell me I should go away.
You can claim it’s out of some chivalrous defense of Michelle’s honor or something, but I really don’t think she needs the defense. And your own words lead me to believe that’s not why you really want him gone anyway.
I think that Michelle and Rick are capable of determining violations of policy and decorum without our assistance.
While you may disagree with certain contributers, it’s best to leave the enforcement decisions to MM.
Most of what I’ve seen from MikeB and others like him are simply policy disagreements as well as mischaracterization of viewpoints.
If we started booting everyone who has a different political view and who mischaracterizes a conservative’s statement….we’d never have any liberals posting here ( and lose a few conservatives as well ).
I read (lurk) more that I write.
But I did not expect anyone had any doubt as to who I meant when I typed TROLL
His screen name was mentioned in the post just prior to the one where I defined what a TROLL is.
But for those still in doubt, yes it was the shinning star MikeB that I was referring too.
MM has the duty/pleasure of having who she wants here, I am OK with that.
When I can not stand the company in the roon, I can leave.
My problem with trolls, they take us away from the topic of discussion.
This has ran its course, and MikeB is still here. Let it lay. Kicking a dead
horse serves no good purpose.
Edwars is a shallow twit