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Mystery at Goose Creek: Who are the accused Pipe Bomb Boys? Update: Yahia Megahed’s Hi5 profile is gone

By Michelle Malkin  •  August 12, 2007 01:51 PM

6:20pm Eastern. Eeenteresting. Via Dan Riehl, Yahia Megahed’s Hi5 profile has now been removed:

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Last weekend, I noted the arrest of Yousef Megahed, 21, and Ahmed Mohamed, 24, in the vicinity of the Naval Weapons Station, located in Goose Creek, South Carolina. National media scrutiny since the men were charged with possession of pipe bombs has been scant. Some MSM reports read like CAIR press releases. The AP dispatch carried in the Miami Herald concludes: “Some have suggested the men were targeted because of their ethnicity. Mohamed is a native of Kuwait and Megahed is Egyptian. Both are in the country legally. The arrests were ‘absolutely wrong,’ said Chaudhry Sadiq, director of the South Carolina chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations.”

Fortunately, local Florida media and bloggers have kept a close eye. And there have been some very newsworthy developments. The Tampa Tribune reports today that the FBI has raided a home in connection with the accused Pipe Bomb Boys:

The FBI searched a Temple Terrace home Saturday morning in connection with the two University of South Florida students jailed in South Carolina on charges of possessing a pipe bomb.

Authorities had a search warrant for 12402 Pampas Place, FBI special agent Dave Couvertier said. He would not say what authorities were looking for, what was removed or how the house is connected to the two students.

The house is owned by Noor and Ana Salhab, according to the Hillsborough County property appraiser’s Web site.

Ahmed Bedier, executive director of the Tampa office of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, said late Saturday he and the family of one of the students, Youssef Megahed, were unaware of the search warrant.

Bedier spoke to Noor Salhab, who is a Realtor and owns the home. Salhab told Bedier the Pampas Place home has been for sale for a year. Bedier said Salhab said the house is rented to college students until it’s sold.

A friend of the other jailed student is a tenant of the house, Salhab told Bedier. Ahmed Mohamed was looking to move and was invited by the friend to move in. Salhab told Bedier he never met Mohamed.

Mohamed had moved some of his belongings to the house but never fully moved in or paid anything, Salhab told Bedier. Salhab told Bedier he didn’t know Mohamed had moved things in until the search warrant by the FBI.

Okay, now what the Tampa Tribune doesn’t tell you is that 12402 Pampas Place just happens to be the address of a home that had been rented previously to WISE (World and Islam Studies Enterprise), one of two groups founded by convicted jihad supporter Sami Al-Arian, who was a professor at University of South Florida–the same university that Megahed and Mohamed attend. Dan Riehl has much more. Tampa’s Fox 13 shows investigators removing PVC piping from the home:

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Tipster Bill Warner has been investigating the Pampas Place home for years and writes that one of the names tied to the address is FBI Most Wanted terrorist Ramadan Shallah.

And more:

Records show the owner of that house is Sameeh Hammoudeh, a co-defendant in the trial of Sami Al-Arian. Al-Arian is the former USF professor who was acquitted on most charges of funding terror-related organizations. He pled guilty to one count of conspiracy to provide services to the Palestinian Islamic Jihad.

Investigators also searched a car Saturday that records showed is registered to Noor Salhab’s son, Ghassan Salhab. Neighbors say he and two other men are the current residents of the house that was raided.

FOX 13 did find a connection between the men arrested in South Carolina, and the men who live in raided house. Back in July, Tampa police cited Mohamed and another man named Ahmad Ishtay for shooting squirrels in a park. Ishtay confirmed to a FOX 13 reporter that he is one of Ghassan Salhab’s roommates. He said in published reports that Mohamed and Megahed, the arrested USF students, sometimes came over.

Shooting squirrels. Nice.

Early on, you’ll remember lots of downplaying of the contents of Megahed and Mohamed’s car trunk as “fireworks.” But note what Megahed’s family members themselves say about that:

Initial news reports said the men told deputies they had fireworks in the trunk. The Megahed family said they weren’t aware of that, and that the family did not have fireworks because of subdivision rules.

The FBI has declined to comment on the case. The agency won’t say when tests results of the material from the trunk will be released.

Curiouser and curiouser.

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Bryan Preston and I are looking into a tip that adds a bit more info about Megahed and Mohamed. First, here’s a photo of the Megahed family carried in the St. Petersburg Times:

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At social network Hi5, there’s a page for Yahia Megahed here.

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This appears to be the same Yahia Megahed, older brother of pipe bomb suspect Youssef, in the family photo. Yahia Megahed’s hometown is listed as Egypt. His number one interest is “ISLAM.” Among his Hi5 friends is an “Ahmed,” who appears to be the same Ahmed Mohamed charged in the Goose Creek explosives case.

If investigators aren’t already exploring this social network, I’m sure they will be.

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  1. #1
    On August 12th, 2007 at 2:11 pm, NeoConNews said:

    Alarmists! Nothing here but some boys enjoying some post 4th of July fireworks!

    I am outraged by these wild accusations.

  2. #2
    On August 12th, 2007 at 2:12 pm, Dersu said:

    Thanks Michelle and Bryan for not letting this slide off the radar screen.

    Good work by the street cops who first stopped them.

    Though I know there may be more to it than just a speeding stop.

    One for the good guys.

  3. #3
    On August 12th, 2007 at 2:15 pm, puhiawa said:

    O

    kay, now what the Tampa Tribune doesn’t tell you is that 12402 Pampas Place just happens to be the address of a home that had been rented previously to WISE (World and Islam Studies Enterprise), one of two groups founded by convicted jihad supporter Sami Al-Arian

    Can anyone think of even one small reason that the Tampa Tribune thought this should not be included in the story?

  4. #4
    On August 12th, 2007 at 2:18 pm, Dersu said:

    On August 12th, 2007 at 2:15 pm, puhiawa said:

    Can anyone think of even one small reason that the Tampa Tribune thought this should not be included in the story?

    Same reason putting the koran in the toilet can be a hate crime.

    Some people have submitted already!

    I will never submit.

  5. #5
    On August 12th, 2007 at 2:21 pm, Regulus said:

    I’m not sure which is more disturbing:

    (1) That the two individuals in question seem to become more and more suspicious in their backgrounds and behaviors the longer they are examined; or

    (2) The fact that it’s not the established media, but independent bloggers, tipsters and local media who are the only ones following this story.

    One of the biggest areas of decline in our journalists since the 1980s seems to be in the increasingly common tactic among reporters and editors of, “The ‘Narrative’ Uber Alles.” In this case, the Narratives are:

    (1) “Islam is Not Our Enemy,” and

    (2) “When you catch Mohammedans trotting around with pipe bombs in the vicinity of a naval base, and they can’t offer a reasonable explanation why, it’s not a sign that they’re bad; they’re just misunderstood.”

    Rush Limbaugh has used the term, “Drive-By Media.” I suggest a variation: “Ostrich Media.”

    Half of me is increasingly ashamed to have been a journalism major in college; the other half is damned proud that there remain people like you, Michelle, who who still hold the line of what the idea of journalism used to be.

    Keep up the excellent work. It matters. And it’s noticed.

  6. #6
    On August 12th, 2007 at 2:22 pm, nbarry said:

    For some time, the University of South Florida has been nicknamed “Jihad U.”, although Columbia has been giving it a run for its money.

    Good detective work.

  7. #7
    On August 12th, 2007 at 2:25 pm, twoninerkilo said:

    This PC bulls#$t is going to get us all killed.

  8. #8
    On August 12th, 2007 at 2:33 pm, vcferlita said:

    Lots of weird stuff here in Tampa. Remember those guys who got on the school bus by “accident”. I think they were USF students also. It appears that Yahia Megahed has a Facebook page too.

  9. #9
    On August 12th, 2007 at 2:52 pm, CommentGuy said:

    So far we have a connect the dots on the house and from other sites a connect the dots on the car they were driving.

    Dots are like BB’s, not very much in single quantity but try some #12 buckshot and it’s a whole different ball game.

  10. #10
    On August 12th, 2007 at 2:55 pm, coffee260 said:

    Here’s a scenario:

    I know from experience that the best place to buy fireworks if your state outlaws them is South Carolina’s tourist attraction, known as South of the Border. If, as the two suspects claim, they did have fireworks, they could have easily bought them in South Carolina.

    And if, as their parents said, when confronted with this claim, “they weren’t aware of that,” they easily could have purchased them somewhere in SC. And if it turns out they did have fireworks in their trunk which they could have purchased while on their road trip, that would explain why the family was unaware of them.

    On the more speculative side, I wonder if they didn’t just have “pipe bombs” or “fireworks.” Instead, what if they had both?

    What if they bought fireworks for the purpose of making pipe bombs by using the gun powers (explosives) contained in the fireworks.

    This also would explain the claims by the two that they had fireworks. And if they did have fireworks, what was the special occasion?

    It’s common knowledge that the material used to make a pipe bomb can be purchased, without suspicion, at any hardware store for a few bucks. What’s harder to purchase without raising suspicions in a 9-11 world is explosive materials. Especially if you are of middle eastern dissent. This is a fact.

    What doesn’t raise suspicions is if you load up on fireworks which contains gunpowder, and which in turn can be used in constructing a pipe bomb.

    So what if the two suspects did have pipe bombs, did have fireworks, and did have ill intent?

  11. #11
    On August 12th, 2007 at 3:01 pm, palani said:

    Yahia Megahed’s hometown is listed as Egypt. His number one interest is “ISLAM.”

    Sounds like this guy was educated in our good old dumbed-down American schools.

    I just heard on Fox that they were planning on using these “fireworks” to celebrate mohammed’s birthday.

  12. #12
    On August 12th, 2007 at 3:17 pm, swj719AWG said:

    #7 has it exactly right.

    This PC crap is going to get a lot of people killed, and no one will be outraged that it could have been prevented.

    I will not submit!

  13. #13
    On August 12th, 2007 at 3:22 pm, Jaded said:

    First off they are not “boys” they are men and they are going to be made “women” in jail. Second, you better watch out Michelle doing the work of the DHS, Michael Chertoff might come after you since he certainly is not going after “not terrorism” suspects.

  14. #14
    On August 12th, 2007 at 3:28 pm, Gabe said:

    Can anyone think of even one small reason that the Tampa Tribune thought this should not be included in the story?

    Like the textbooks adopted by states for public schools, the MSM has a whole cadre of pressure groups that monitor everything put out. For example, for a thirty minute broadcast in the MSM, people actually monitor how many minorities and what kind are put on the news and whether they are being represented positively. CAIR and other groups either do sensitivity training or actually monitor what is put out from within the newsrooms about Muslims.

    Back in July, Tampa police cited Mohamed and another man named Ahmad Ishtay for shooting squirrels in a park.

    We have Muslim noncitizens shooting animals in our parks, and they are not deported. Scary how PC we have become.

  15. #15
    On August 12th, 2007 at 3:29 pm, sausage said:

    Shooting squirrels. Nice.

    You’ve just alienated half your readership Michelle! Nothing like a bit of Squirrel gravy ;)

    On a serious note - this looks like serious stuff and very under reported.

  16. #16
    On August 12th, 2007 at 4:03 pm, 24Klady said:

    Wonderful detective work - you have provided The Tampa Tribune with the details needed to further their investigative work on this story. Will they use it, probably not. For some time I’ve not had any confidence in the MSM, now newspapers. Haven’t subscribed to one since I got the net.

  17. #17
    On August 12th, 2007 at 4:08 pm, Skeptic said:

    I watched the demeanor of these “boys” in their court appearance. They seemed to be acting like it was all a joke. They didn’t act like they had any worry in the world, I guess they think their islamist buddies will be getting them out of any serious charges.

    Thank you so much Michelle for keeping an eye on this episode and others like it. Chertoff and other high placed Homeland Security people all keep saying “not related to terrorism” within 15 minutes of any event. Funny how fewer and fewer of us believe them.

  18. #18
    On August 12th, 2007 at 4:19 pm, windbag said:

    I’m all for shooting tree rats, but these guys were shooting them in a park. Big difference between hunting in an appropriate environment and shooting in a public place.

  19. #19
    On August 12th, 2007 at 5:40 pm, Pat said:

    Right…the “boys” were just on a road trip, destination unknown like all their other road trips. Right…

  20. #20
    On August 12th, 2007 at 5:49 pm, Lindsay said:

    Some of the newspaper articles show the path to cover up by the family and CAIR: one guy liked to grill and carried a small grill and fuel in his car…he also was working on a car and had equipment for that. He was also a scuba diver. They don’t seem to explain a neighbor who witnessed oxygen tanks delivered to his house by UPS and Fedx.
    They sound like every college boy I know, right?

    Note the smiling, smug mug shots. It will be interesting to see what the FBI found on the laptop they had in the car and who it linked to.

    Thanks, Michelle. The connection with
    Sami Al-Arian is interesting.

  21. #21
    On August 12th, 2007 at 6:04 pm, RenaOConnor said:

    On August 12th, 2007 at 2:25 pm, twoninerkilo said:

    This PC bulls#$t is going to get us all killed.

    It already has… over 3000 and counting…

  22. #22
    On August 12th, 2007 at 6:23 pm, limmo said:

    I just heard on Fox that they were planning on using these “fireworks” to celebrate mohammed’s birthday.

    Probably just intending to kill a couple of squirrels to celebrate the big day. No biggie. Innocent fun. Boys will be boys. CAIR should sue. (And, they probably will.)

  23. #23
    On August 12th, 2007 at 6:23 pm, The Raging Republican said:

    The MSM in this country is a joke.

  24. #24
    On August 12th, 2007 at 6:34 pm, JWS said:

    Guess what? We need to close the mosques, cease any and all immigration for any reason whatsoever of those from islamic countries/ the middle east, and secure our borders with the military. It’s so simple, a congressm…er, a caveman could do it…

  25. #25
    On August 12th, 2007 at 7:22 pm, limmo said:

    Woa there JWS,on my planet, our United States doesn’t “close” places of religious worship on a whim. Check your Way-back-machine, buddy. We practice freedom of religion here. We respect differences of opinion and belief. Where are you? I think you may have morphed back into Afghanistan during Taliban rule. Look around, do you see a lot of burkas? Anybody blowing up statues from the “wrong’ religion?” If so, take it all in and learn from the intollerant mistakes of other, evolve…don’t immulate!

  26. #26
    On August 12th, 2007 at 7:25 pm, swj719AWG said:

    I am thinking of getting a tattoo…

    Anyone got a high-quality image of the arabic for “I will not submitt”?

    Or maybe “I will not submitt to Sharia”?

  27. #27
    On August 12th, 2007 at 7:27 pm, swj719AWG said:

    We respect differences of opinion and belief. Where are you? I think you may have morphed back into Afghanistan during Taliban rule. Look around, do you see a lot of burkas? Anybody blowing up statues from the “wrong’ religion?”

    The line, however, gets drawn at planning to kill me. At that point, I pretty much cease to tolerate their differences.

    I’m more than happy to leave well enough alone. There are indeed plenty of moderate, sane muslims in the world, and they should indeed have the right and opertunity to worship as they see fit.

    Try and make me live by their religious laws, and we might have a problem…

  28. #28
    On August 12th, 2007 at 7:44 pm, calamityville said:

    Shooting squirrels? Where the hell is PETA????

  29. #29
    On August 12th, 2007 at 7:50 pm, Lindsay said:

    From Dan Riehl’s blog; who has been following this closely, an interesting comment:

    Here’s a tip for you - At least half of the terrorism task force is in Charleston investigating this case. Makes you wonder how they’ve been flying under the press’ radar.

    Posted by: Anon_Cop | Sunday, August 12, 2007 at 04:52 PM

  30. #30
    On August 12th, 2007 at 8:06 pm, Gabe said:

    We need to close the mosques, cease any and all immigration for any reason whatsoever of those from islamic countries/ the middle east, and secure our borders with the military. It’s so simple, a congressm…er, a caveman could do it…

    Just like it takes several accidents before traffic lights are installed at dangerous intersections, it is going to take a massive terrorist attack before we will do this.

    I can’t imagine 1940’s Americans being stupid enough to allow a large amount of Japanese and Germans into the country during World War II. Yet we allow a huge number of Muslims (most of whom are sympathetic to jihad) into our country each year even after 9/11, and we haven’t secured our border.

  31. #31
    On August 12th, 2007 at 8:06 pm, JWS said:

    #25

    Cute. The problem is that islam is not a legitimate religion. Look up a fellow by the name Robert Spencer and read his works.

    You are right about one thing: we in America respect differences of opinion and belief; islam does not-in fact, it punishes any and all dissent. Violently. No burkas? No blowing things up? All they are doing is waiting patiently for naive folks like yourself to join the ranks of those who see no difference between Christianity and a “religion” that instructs its followers to convert or kill the rest of humanity. Inside our churches and synagogues, they teach love and compassion; inside of mosques, they breed hate.

    Don’t worry though “buddy”, when the sh@t hits the fan-and it will, thanks to politicians and regular dupes like you-we’ll save your ass too.

    “On my planet”. Good grief…

  32. #32
    On August 12th, 2007 at 8:53 pm, swj719AWG said:

    The problem is that islam is not a legitimate religion.

    Not a legitimate religion?

    I’m not sure that one of the most popular religions can be called invalid. I’m not entirely sure that Spencer calls the entire religion invalid. Certainly many members who claim it as their faith are far outside what the rest believe, but that does not invalidate it.

    I know several muslims, and each is a solid member of society, and a proud citicen. I would trust each one of them fully with my life.

    Again, people are too caught up with a definition of a religion built on the works of a bunch of animals, peole who kill for the sake of killing. That isn’t Islam, and any Muslim who wishes a peaceful life is welcome by me, and I’ll defend them to the last breath.

  33. #33
    On August 12th, 2007 at 8:57 pm, nbarry said:

    With regard to the FBI, please cut the agents some slack. They need time to follow all the leads they uncover and do so without tipping off any suspects. Of course, if they screw up, they deserve all the subsequent criticism they generate, but it appears that they have been careful so far.

  34. #34
    On August 12th, 2007 at 9:19 pm, limmo said:

    JWS, ever hear of The Inquisition, or the Protestent/Catholic upheavals lasting for generations all over Europe? Never read about Christians burning heretics, or witches, those who didn’t adhear lockstep to dogma…frequently after torture, perhaps pulling them limb from limb on the rack? Didn’t learn in school about the Puritans leaving the old world for the right to practice their version of Christianity which had been denied them by other Christians in the old world, or about Jews fleeing a plethora of Christian countries in Europe as various times but particularly during and after WWII?

    Today, Christians and Jews generally preach tolerance and peace(except for a few, like that guy who calls himself a Christian minister and shows up at vets’ funerals and says that their death is punishment from God), but it hasn’t always been the case.

    We shouldn’t put up with anyone who hurts us or plans to hurt us, or supports anyone who does, or who works actively to eliminate our constitution and replace it with sharia, but we should tenaciously maintain our tradition of allowing peace abiding people to worship as they see fit.

  35. #35
    On August 12th, 2007 at 9:22 pm, JWS said:

    swj719AWG-”Not a legitimate religion?”

    It’s not and I stand by that. A political movement that is committed to conquering the world?-sure…

    I’m very impressed that you know “several” muslims. I’m equally impressed that you would trust “each one of them fully” with your life. I’m a Christian, but I trust no one with my life but my family. You trust acquaintances with your LIFE? Hmm…

    As for Spencer, I did not say HE sees islam as invalid…

    I suspect you are of the islam persuasion. My America will not cede to you. I know you take great comfort in our politicians, but those of us who live here will be insurmountable

  36. #36
    On August 12th, 2007 at 9:28 pm, JWS said:

    #34

    “ever hear of The Inquisition…”

    Again, read Spencer’s book…And KNOW-they will cut your idiotic head off before mine- you will not even know why it is happening…

  37. #37
    On August 12th, 2007 at 10:14 pm, limmo said:

    jws-You seem angry that I don’t totally agree with your position on this issue. I’ve never read Spenseer. I think I’ve heard him on radio several times, though.

    To me, Islamofascism is the danger of our age. I believe we’re in World War IV which we will be fighting for years and decades to come, which will cost us much treasure, including many lives, but we’d better win because losing would mean an end to the liberty and justice we love. I am dismayed that I don’t see as many Muslims as I would hope for standing up around the world, and here, to decry the violence and hatred perpetrated by so many today in the name of God, or even enough standing up to support our Western traditions and freedoms. Ann Coulter, I think Michelle too, and some others frequently sarcastically refer to Islam as the “religion of peace,” parroting a term used by some Muslims from time to time, who really don’t seem that peaceful, or tolerant by their words and deeds. The inferrance is that, time after time, we have example after example of those calling themselves ‘peaceful’ not acting in ways which would support that claim. I wholeheartedly agree that this is freqeuntly true. Yet, I also know know several Muslims who don’t support violence or repression, who genuinely don’t want to committ or support violence or impose sharia and who just want to live in peace and freedom.

    It is important to point to contradictions, dangers, the potential for mischief or evil in any religion. We should speak against violence, oppression and intollerance. We should fight against it at every turn. But peace abiding people, doing no harm, not trying to repress others should continue to have the fundamental freedom to worship according to their conscience so central to the American way of life.

  38. #38
    On August 12th, 2007 at 10:36 pm, swj719AWG said:

    I suspect you are of the islam persuasion. My America will not cede to you. I know you take great comfort in our politicians, but those of us who live here will be insurmountable

    You’re new here, aren’t you…

    I’ll spare you the entire story of my family, but suffice to say that - on both sides - I’m 4th generation American, of almost entirely german decent. I’m a Luthern, and an unappologetic neo-libertarian and capitalist.

    That said, you must have a very empty life if you have no friends you wouldn’t trust with everything yo hold dear. As a matter of fact, I trust more friends with my life than I do family members. But then, I have a family life you’re not familiar with, so I’ll forgive you your ignorance.

    This country is founded on, amongst other things, freedom of religion. We recognize Mormonism, Scientology, and Wicca as accepted religions, each with a MUCH shorter history than Islam. Sorter history even if you combine them together.

    You intollerance is the reason we’re labled as islamophobes. Learn to accept the peaceful and respectful in America. Not all muslims want to subjegate you. I dare say not even half of them do. CAIR represents an incredibly small number of muslims. Other “non-peaceful” arab organizations might account for 20,000.

    You won’t submit? Good. I would hope you wouldn’t.

    But if you try and shout down a peaceful muslim, if you try and harm a single one who merely wishes to practice thier faith in peace, know this: I won’t stand idle by and let you. Did you support the rash of violence against arab busniesses right after 9/11? If so, you should be ashamed.

    Should we fight the efforts of the minority to impose sharia law? Most certainly. But to damn those who live by sharia law and leave us alone? That’s just as bad as those who try and impose sharia. That you don’t see that makes me quite sad.

  39. #39
    On August 12th, 2007 at 11:56 pm, Dersu said:

    On August 12th, 2007 at 10:36 pm, swj719AWG said:
    This country is founded on, amongst other things, freedom of religion. We recognize Mormonism, Scientology, and Wicca as accepted religions, each with a MUCH shorter history than Islam. Sorter history even if you combine them together.

    swj,

    Though I agree with some of what you said, I wonder who you meant by the “we”
    in the above quote.
    Cetainly not me, at least two of those you mentioned I consider to be cults.

    And I do not consider our Constitution
    a suicide pact.
    A invader that has found their way into our legal safe zone with our distruction as a goal should be eliminated.

  40. #40
    On August 13th, 2007 at 2:21 am, swj719AWG said:

    Though I agree with some of what you said, I wonder who you meant by the “we” in the above quote.

    We in the royal sense… This country recognizes them. I base this on the fact that you can sellect “wicca” as a religion for your dog tags in the military.

    Don’t ask me, I didn’t make the decision…

    And I never suggested that those bent on destroying this country should be protected. In fact, I believe I mentioned specifically that the PEACEFUL people should be protected.

    Those that want to kill you? Well, how you deal with them is your choice. I recommend hollow point…

  41. #41
    On August 13th, 2007 at 6:24 am, Dandapani said:

    I know from experience that the best place to buy fireworks if your state outlaws them is South Carolina’s tourist attraction, known as South of the Border.

    You must not have visited FL. There are YEAR ROUND fireworks stores all over the place. I have two within 5 miles of my house just north of Tampa. And for every holiday from the 4th, Christmas and New Years, and so on, they put tents up on every empty street corner selling fireworks with “buy 1 get 3 free” sales. You can’t get much easier to buy f-works than in FL.

  42. #42
    On August 13th, 2007 at 10:49 am, RobM1981 said:

    We tolerate freedom of religion, but only to a point. Many a hippie tried to claim that s/he was a clergyman in some hyped up religion that required the use of LSD, peyote, or other such things. Others have embraced pedophelia.

    None of these stand up in court.

    Any religion that encourages the death of anyone is a soon-to-be-banned religion.

  43. #43
    On August 13th, 2007 at 11:15 am, jferg49 said:

    Why do people continue to equate the HISTORY of Christianity…with current day Islam (and their violence)?…hey guys…the inquisition was just a small part of a large religious revolution (mostly political)…and most people didn’t really buy into it (unless it was the folks in power who continued to use it as a way to stay in power)…and burning a few witches hundreds of years ago is not equal to an entire world religion accepting ANY barbaric action as “OK”, since the terrorists are muslim…..as society matured through the years, so did the christian (and jewish) religions…somehow, Islam missed the boat. Before Islam…the arab culture was prosperous..their society advanced…they had math (hence the Arabic numbering system) and science…world trade, the largest library in the world…education was important…enter ISLAM….have there been ANY scientific or societal advancements from any Islamic countries since Mohammad started the religion? (with the exception of IED’s)…I think not…that speaks volumes about the religion…I know there are plenty of fine people who are muslim…but unfortunately..they aren’t the ones making news…another question..can you think of any “hot spots” in the world today(of any size)..where muslims aren’t involved?…I’m having a hard time thinking of one…I don’t know the answer…all I know is that after 9/11…I saw a lot of film with muslims cheering in the streets…in many cities…CELEBRATING THE DEATHS OF OUR COUNTRYMEN….nuff said…

  44. #44
    On August 13th, 2007 at 5:03 pm, JWS said:

    Either you get it, or…you’ll get it when it’s too late. Those who are relying on good, old fashioned PC speak are literally killing the rest of us because they do not understand the nature of this enemy. If you understand nothing else, keep in mind that these 7th century knuckle-draggers follow a book that OK’s lying IF it is done for the sake of fooling the infidel. That’s part of a religion?? Trust them at your own risk…

  45. #45
    On August 13th, 2007 at 5:29 pm, swj719AWG said:

    If you understand nothing else, keep in mind that these 7th century knuckle-draggers follow a book that OK’s lying IF it is done for the sake of fooling the infidel. That’s part of a religion??

    Are you sure you aren’t talking about politics? Because it sure sounds like it.

    Look, I EASILY grant that there are not-insignificant portions of the muslim world that want to kill me. Hell, I’ve said it time and time again. The people we are fighting don’t care about our words, they just want our blood.

    But that isn’t all of them, and to suggest that it is, is to suggest that all christians bomb abortion clinics. It’s absolutely wrong.

  46. #46
    On August 13th, 2007 at 5:36 pm, swj719AWG said:

    And in another thread, an excellent point was made. Islam has not had it’s Reformation (it seems to be at hand, if you ask me), nor it’s counterreformation.

    Chistianity USED to be pretty damn barbaric. It’s a completely fair statement to make because where christianity used to be is where islam is now.

  47. #47
    On August 13th, 2007 at 7:54 pm, JWS said:

    swj719AWG
    “Are you sure you aren’t talking about politics? Because it sure sounds like it…”

    Now you’re starting to get it. islam is a political movement, not a religion. The ko-ran is all about how to conquer-not how to worship.

    Earlier you stated that not all muslims want to subjugate (us). You proudly stated that you didn’t think even HALF of them (want to). Only half? Whew! That “tiny minority” your kind is always referring to is growing isn’t it?

    Enough of you and yours. Best of luck with the PC…

    PS-WHAT rash of violence against arab businesses right after 9/11? I think I smell a rat.

  48. #48
    On August 13th, 2007 at 9:20 pm, swj719AWG said:

    *chuckles*

    And once you rid the world of Muslims, then what? Will you get rid of the Scientologists? The Mormons? Perhaps the Batists…

    You wonder why they scream “islamophobia?”

    I must have been watching different national news when I heard about arab-run businesses being ransacked… Or random arabs being attacked…

    But smell whatever you like. I must have a different idea of free speech than you. Your’s sounds suspiciously like the Liberal version…

  49. #49
    On August 13th, 2007 at 9:47 pm, JWS said:

    Back atcha “chuckles”

    Rid the world of muslims? That was stated by…? By purposely misrepresenting my position, you lose. muslims are causing nearly EVERY “problem” this planet is experiencing. They get along with no one because their “religion” instructs them not too. Full stop. End of sentence.

    Liberal? Finally you show a sense of humor as you expose yourself all the more. Sealing our borders is a liberal idea? Stopping immigration from all nations of the middle east is a liberal idea? Shutting down hate incubating mosques and deporting the followers thereof is a…liberal idea? Lmao!

    Listen junior, take your stuff to Kos. It plays way better there. Half of all muslims want to subjugate us and you’re calling someone who wants to make sure that never happens a liberal? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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