Religion of Peace?
Our friend and Hot Air colleague Robert Spencer of Jihad Watch, public enemy number one of CAIR, has a hot new book out: Religion of Peace? Why Christianity is and Islam Isn’t.
If you buy just one more book the rest of this summer, make it this one. We have an interview up a HA.
Help spread the word and put Robert’s newest salvo on the best-seller list.
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And for all the “evils” that have been done in the name of christianity, no christian I know will threaten to kill you for mentioning them. Try that with Islam. Some group of nuts (like the turkish government) will go ape-sh*t…
Like i said, they aren’t all homicidal loons, it’s just that the ones that are are REALLY commited to it…
I’m reading “Lone survivor” right now, when I’m done, my last book of the summer will be “Religion of Peace…” I was convinced by the HA interview. I think if most Americans heard this view we would have more support for the war on terror. Instead the MSM supports the idea that it’s a bumper sticker.
Oh you can bet that there are lawsuits just waiting in the wings over books like this. Good luck, though. It looks like a good read.
Countdown to all the politically correct pandering to Islam and Christian bashing…
3…2…1…
I worry about Mr. Spencer, he is becoming a very large thorn. I am hoping he can afford good body guards.
Christians killing Muslims, couldn’t happen, especially not in Bosnia.
As for the Bible’s message of peace: the Bible has many messages. You wouldn’t call the Book of Joshua that peaceful. In this book we read that God punishes his chosen people for not killing the women and children in a city they just destroyed in an unprovoked attack.
http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=Points+well+made%3A+More+to+come+from+Gingrich%3F&articleId=6a285521-d46e-4eaf-91a4-5c0970635f1f
Some good points here.
I just ordered it.
A small amount of religious authorities with ties to Muslim criminals involved with extortion, murder, money laundering, sexual slavery, gun running, racketeering, and fraud (charities), are controlling an entire global population of Muslims.
Like many religious faithful, the “good” Muslims who worship at Mosques silently accept/cope/passively condone the contradictions of their religious authorities regarding sex, money, power, greed, and narcissism.
The “faithful” in this country enjoy the right to worship freely, not because they have a religion- but because as citizens (assuming they are citizens) have a duty to uphold the laws in this country that govern the practice of religion in the United States of America.
Preaching in mosques calling for the destruction of the country (and the implied destruction of the US Government) is againt those laws, and do not fall under protected speech. The “faithful” “good” Muslims have a responsibility to oppose this and disrupt it.
What use is it to differentiate between Germans of legal age in Germany during the Nazi rise to power and the Nazis?
A small group controlled a large group because the large group- in the final analysis- acquiesced in the practices of the larger group thinking they would never be harmed by these practices, because the targets of violence were somebody else.
This is a good parallel. And it is in line with Spencer’s imperative look at the entire religion- because this death wish of Islam is in its very DNA.
“Religion of Peace”
“Gesture of Good will”
How bout this,
“Kiss my Butt, Scumbags”
Let me see book of Joshua means it was in the Old Testament which means that it is probably describing events from around 3000 – 2500 BC.
Got anything more recent say in the last 10 years or so?
It’s as predictable as sunrise. Nice to know some things are that reliable.
I don’t think anyone has ever suggested that nominal Christians don’t commit crimes and/or atrocities. The difference is that in Islam the violence and hatred is institutionalized, not the province of some stray whack jobs.
Though I’m an athiest now I got my education from Jesuits. None of them ever told me it was my duty to kill Jews and other non-believers. And I’d love for you to tell me when the last riot in response to “piss christ” erupted.
If you truly believe that Christians and Muslims are equally dangerous I propose an experiment: Go to the Vatican and stomp on a bible while yelling “Screw Christ”. See what happens. Then go to Mecca and repeat the procedure, only substituting a Koran and Allah.
Do you really expect the same response in both places?
Of course, one problem with my proposed experiment is that the religion of peace doesn’t even allow infidels in its holy city.
Seething to begin in 3…2….1….
I wrote:
Lo and behold:
Six minutes…and I thought it’d take longer.
First, Joshua is part of the Old Testament. It shows theological ignorance of Christianity if you believe the Old Testament’s a fair representation of modern Christianity.
Last time I checked, the Vatican wasn’t sending roving bands of militia out to destroy cities.
And since I don’t have my Bible with me, please site the verses from which you’re taking that story – I believe it is taken out of context and I will be investigating further.
Second, the atrocities in Bosnia are terrible – but it shows a great lack of reason if you equate those attacks with the thousands of attacks perpetuated under the banner of Islam: http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/index.html#Attacks
It is this rabid inability to distinguish between a few sick and twisted individuals (Christians who commit acts of violence) and the many, many, many individuals who commit acts of violence on a daily basis in the name of Islam that will bring the West under shari’a law. And the fact that millions of Muslims sit by silently doesn’t bode well, either.
I suggest you check out all of the website I linked to above.
It’s pretty startling. And I challenge anyone to find atrocities that severe being done in the name of Christianity.
If you want a simple summary of the difference, look at how Christians and Muslims view God.
Christians view God – and our relationsihp with him – as Father(ly). Hence the “Our Father” prayer. A father admonishes, but always loves and forgives. We have God-given free will to believe or not believe
Islam views Allah as a slavemaster – unforgiving and unmerciful and owed total obedience. There is no free will, there is no choice.
How can anyone rationally argue the two are the same?
They aren’t.
LGM-
A fair measure of intellectual honesty is required here if you are going to be taken seriously.
Are we really going to have to take you on “tit-for-tat” about this?
Do us all, and yourself, a favor- at least demonstrate that you have command of the argument with which you disagree.
Otherwise you are just availing yourself to be shamed, as Mr. Felix has roundly done in his message #11.
Or is that the fix you need in order to function in these settings?
Thanks.
Separate note:
“Religion of peace” is a sarcastic use of a term which has a specific context with regard to Islam. I am glad Mr. Spencer has taken the approach of establishing some integrity to this term. It is needed to lift the dialogues concerning Islam’s place in the modern world- if it has one. Sarcasm and zingers go only so far in reaching the minds of those who have buried their skulls so deeply in the sand.
I think the difference between Christianity and Islam is about 500 years. Christians of 500 years ago were just as bad, if not considerably worse, than the Muslims of today.
Of course Christianity has moved past its dark and horrible past (save for sins of omission on issues like civil rights and the Holocaust). I pray that the same eventually happens to the much younger Islamic faith.
Of course that won’t happen in my lifetime and I bet I’m younger than most of the commenters here (24). In the meantime I hope Christians continue to fight for their faith and safety while not totally demonizing a religion that does have many, many good followers.
Why do people continue to equate the HISTORY of Christianity…with current day Islam (and their violence)?…the religion of peace is accepting of ANY barbaric action as “OK”, since the terrorists are muslim…..Before Islam…the arab region and culture was prosperous..their society was relatively advanced……they had advanced math (remember the Arabic numbering system) and science…world trade, the largest library in the world…education was important…enter ISLAM….have there been ANY scientific or societal advancements from any Islamic countries since Mohammad started the religion? (with the exception of IED’s)…I think not…that speaks volumes about the religion…I know there are plenty of fine people who are muslim…but unfortunately..they aren’t the ones making news…another question..can you think of any “hot spots” in the world today(of any size)..where muslims aren’t involved?…I’m having a hard time thinking of one…I don’t know the answer…all I know is that after 9/11…I saw a lot of film showing muslims cheering in the streets…in many cities…CELEBRATING THE DEATHS OF OUR COUNTRYMEN….nuff said…
Rusty about nails it in my mind. Our PAST is horrible.
Our present is pretty damn good.
Perhaps Islam just needs a few centuries to grow out of it’s I hate you/I will kill you” phase…
Rusty:
Check your facts. Christians – and here I speak specifically about Catholics – did fight the Holocaust.
Ever hear of Maximillian Kolbe? I doubt you can cast him as someone guilty of a sin of omission.
EnglishQueen01 touches on a discussion from weeks past where discussants lump “Christians” into one historical context and it doesn’t work.
Looking for relative exceptions to Muslim aggression in another religion is as futile as looking for rose petals in a sewer.
People mistakenly believe that Islam is proving something about *ALL* religions as each has in some way at some time been elevated to justify and rationalize wars of conquest or killing of one’s enemies.
That kind of brain fart is a misjudgement of the vast body of evidence to the contrary and has grave consequences for its perpetrator.
I meant Christianity as a whole didn’t do enough. I mean, if we can’t use specific Christians as being barbaric (like Bosnia), it seems unfair that we can use specific Christians as examples of saintliness.
I was familiar with Maximillian Kolbe. I am also familiar with Pope Pius XII who privately helped Jews but publicly refused to condemn the Holocaust on grounds of maintaining neutrality. That’s a great moral failing.
But I don’t mean to get caught up in this sort of argument. I, along with I’m guessing the majority of MM readers, can agree that Christianity is a religion of peace while Islam is a bit of a mess right now.
By sins of ommision, I was thinking more like Rome’s stance vs. the Nazis…
Well, I mean, all Western religions have justified death and destruction in the name of God. The Crusades and the Inquisitions for Christians. For Jews, the Old Testament is filled with the Chosen People slaughtering innocents because God says so. Of course, that’s the past and all, but what you describe as a brain fart is fact. It just doesn’t apply to the 21st Century.
Grave consequences? Like, me knowing that Christians slaughtered innocent people in the name of Jesus means I will die? That seems like something a militant jihadist would say. Surely you don’t mean that.
Rusty-
Be my guess. Now articulate for us the brand of religion practiced under the heading “Christian”? And articulate further please the religious-based policies of the Bosnian government against the targets (who will remain nameless) of their war making and their atrocities.
Put Bosnia into context and I think the “Christian” point you are making will wither, the same as the Arab point made continually about “Crusades”.
I for one will never make the claim that Catholics throughout history have never been barbaric through warfare and murder.
But I am at a loss as to why anybody in this current state of affairs would find the need to defend Islam with the childish “I know, but look at what Mikey did!? line of reasoning.
Can you help me understand the road you are on here?
Okey dokey, Rusty. If you are going to dumb this down, be my guest.
The grave consequences I alluded to Rusty is that you will be, like many Americans, unable to understand the coming conflagration. And that will affect your well-being.
You will be unable to determine who your friend is and who is your foe.
Good luck with that.
Now stop twisting my argument in order to compensate for your inability to grasp where you are in history.
I just have to ask…
You can tell who your friend or foe is based merely on looking at them/knowing their religion?
I forward the idea that you can’t, and there-in lies the problem. You can’t tell anymore. Simply because someone is muslim doesn’t mean they will kill you.
I suppose you could argue that it increases the odds, but it doesn’t make it a certainty. Without that certainty, rounding up and just jailing the lot of them doesn’t do much good, except maybe pissing them off.
Targeted, specific acts against those who want to kill us is what we need, not blanket sanctions.
I mentioned that comparing 14th Century Christianity to Old Testmaent Judaism to contemporary Islam is silly. I know my place in history.
Although Islam isn’t doing anything that the other big Western religions haven’t done in the past (which you denied), the past is the past. We can only worry about the present and future. We don’t disagree regarding the big picture. I just feel your tone is a little confrontational.
Rusty- re read what i wrote and i think you will see thta i didn’t deny it.
I think you’re belaboring a point that deserves to be confronted because it establishes nothing and further pollutes our conversations here with the relativistic nonsense that keeps us from furthering our understanding of what is happening.
So for the sake of your fellow readers here, why was it important to make the point that make about history, etc?
With regard to comparing Islam to 14th Century Christianity, bear in mind that Islam has yet to undergo a Protestant Reformation, followed by a Catholic Counterreformation, which occurred in the 16th Century. After another century of sectarian warfare, fervor gave way to the Enlightenment, which brought European and American civilization to its cultural height.
Will the same historical sequence occur in the Muslim world? Let’s hope so.
Just take a look at Islamic Rage Boy….nuff said.
Bear, I brought it up because people are very quick to throw away the baby with the bathwater when it comes to rooting out terrorism within Islam.
Christians were once the terrorists and Muslims were once the victims. Thankfully Christianity was allowed to thrive while its more extremist elements withered and died. It’s not too late for the same to happen with Islam. Obviously the importance of American safety means we can’t just wait that out, but I thought it would be good to have an optimist voice on these here comments.
Islam needs a Reformation… no doubt about it.
Thanks for the explanation, Rusty.
But you will have no support from me on the line I am quoting above. It is a variation of the Left’s slogan: “One man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter.”
I wouldn’t exhort you to go to the library and find out why I say I disagree with your gross and inaccurate oversimplification of the historical record. It’s alot of reading.
So I will encourage you to read, or re-read if you have read it already, Spencer’s “Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam” for greater time economy to get at the flaw in your ointment.
The Left likes to Howard Zinn-ify all of Western history. And so the Crusades are cast in this “victim-victimizer” role that is way out of whack with a complex history about Europe’s war against “Moslems”.
Bad medicine for the young in this country to be taught that, so I encourage all grown ups to get clear about the context of Catholics and Christians fighting Muslims up to the collapse of the Ottoman Empire.
Islam has shown zero interest in reforming its ways relative to the rest of the world.
The West has a choice to make: Kill or be killed.
My earlier post got some criticism. Here are my replies.
When people say Islam is violent they refer to two things. One is recent acts of violence of genocide by Muslims. The other is the text of the Koran (however you spell it these days).
My point was that by these measures, Christianity may also be viewed as a violent religion.
Recent acts: Bosnia
Violent scripture: Joshua
I don’t think Christianity or Islam are violent by nature, but there certainly are violent Christians and Muslims.
One person wanted me to quote specific verses from Joshua. Instead I invite you to read the whole thing — it’s not that long and it’s easy to find online. Quoting single sentences by definition is taking words out of context.
Actually I think if Rusty were to view the MM/Spencer video it would help clear up the moral equivalency problem. What Rusty is not aware of is the nature of Islam from the get-go. It’s basis has been violence from it’s invention by “Mohammed” as an oppressive political military machine to this day.
That’s not the kind of violence that someone seeking equivalence will run to the OLd Testament and go back 3000 years to find. e.g. If God commanded the ancient Israelites to kill the MukkaLukkaLites, it was a one time thing. A person taking it on himself to murder – ala homicide bombers – was and is a thing to be condemned for Jews, Christians and other civilized peoples.
In Islam the command to murder unbelievers – especially Jews – is an open-ended one, with no temporal boundry. And it’s the only way Muslims can be guaranteed a ticket to “Paradise”.
Watch the Hot Air video and read my response above, lgm.
OK, here we go again – it’s another debate of who can show more disdain for the so-called “Old Testament” – what I and my co-religionists call the Hebrew Bible. Look at all the blood spilled in those books! Yep – and look at all the blood spilled in American history. War is deadly by definition.
What such shallow readers always fail to grasp is that the Hebrew Bible contains a section of commandments (the majority of the first five books, the Torah or teaching), some philosophy (Proverbs, Job), some poetry (Psalms, Song of Songs), lots of prophecy, and tons of history – nearly 1-1/2 millennia worth. I think it’s not surprising that in that span of time, Israel might have had as many conflicts with its neighbors as America has had in two centuries. Buddhism, the most pacifist of the world’s major religions, has given rise to various martial arts in Asia. If you don’t expect Buddhists to commit suicide to suit the jihadists, why should the Jews?
The ultimate point is this – whatever the chronicles tell us of the unwanted wars of Israelite history, Israelite law does not call for the conquest of the world or the conversion of other peoples. Indeed, one of our prophets says “Each man shall walk in the name of his god, and I shall walk in the name of the Lord.” Compare that with Sura 9 of the Qur’an, which demands that everyone in the world must choose between conversion to Islam, submission as a dhimmi who pays the jizya tax, or death.
Was Muhamad inspired by the verse “He who does not believe shall be condemned”? It is unseemly for people to complain about what they perceive as the warlike nature of the “Old Testament”. Rather, as a well-known parable of the Talmud states, if you see the mote in your fellow’s eye, won’t he see the beam in your own eye?
Yup. Even for those who choose to convert to Judaism, it’s not easy and , in fact, such conversion is discouraged by Jewish religious leaders. Contrast this with Islam, where hostage-taking and forced “conversion” by threat of execution is a regular occurance.
More information on the Vatican and the Holocaust – Pope Pius XII (while still Cardinal Pachelli) helped penned an encyclical condemning Nazism and anti-Semitism.
During the war, the Vatican helped hide 100,000 Jews.
Pius didn’t come out and publicly condemn the Holocaust and Hitler because his actions spoke louder than words and it would have been stupid for him to take on the Nazi army…do any of you not doubt Hitler would have destroyed Rome if Pius had been more vocal? Do any of you doubt that any help at all given to victims of the Holocaust would have been lost had Pius not kept his tongue in his head.
The myth that Pius XII kept silent was started by a 1962 play called “The Deputy” which was part of a KGB campaign against the Catholic Church.
lgm:
Have you even READ a Bible or a Koran lately? You criticize me for asking for citation of verses; you give one book an paint the entire Old Testament as violent.
From it’s very inception – and through present times – Islam has been (by and large) a violent, conquest-driven religion. There is a difference. How do you repeatedly fail to see this?
As we pointed out earlier – the Old Testament is just that OLD. It is not Christianity as practiced today. And when people DO act violently in the name of Christ, they are condemned by their fellow Christians.
How rampant are terrorist attacks carried out by Baptists? Not very. Again, check out the link I provide in #13. Look at the research then point me to another site chronicling the contemporary violence of Christians on that massive scale. It won’t happen.
My qualms and fears about Islam would decrease if I saw more people (Muslims) speaking against and condemning the violence. If cartoons didn’t cause massive world riots. If homosexuals weren’t stoned to death, and if women weren’t treated like chattel.
But until that happens, I’m going to question and I’m going to fight.
And I’m going to defend the faith that is everything Islam fails to be.
swj-
Your question is moot. The answer to it is obviously “No, you cannot tell who your friend or foe is based merely on looking at them/knowing their religion.”
But the question is off base relative to what I said.
In summary, what i said was:
Arguing relativistic comparisons of historic Christianity and present day Islam, would impede their ability to understand what I called the coming “conflagration”- the present day deadly martial conflict now showing signs of becoming a widened war in the Middle East, with increased frequency of violent attacks on US soil.
Their inability to understand the conflict will make it difficult for them to know who their enemies are and who their friends are.
In this conflict, one does not have to be an IslamoFascist to be my enemy.
I know them by their actions, by their words, and their stated intentions on the public record. If I didn’t understand this conflict, I would not even see them or their actions as having any implications or consequences for me or my fellow Americans.
And there are Americans among this group I refer to as enemies. Example: Bill Clinton. He is an enemy to the American people as I see and understand this conflict with Islamo Fascism around the world. His orders to refuel Navy vessels in the manner and procedure the USS Cole was following, led to its vulnerability to attack. His order to sell off the USA Strategic Petroleum Reserve (under the “Green” eye of Albert Gore) has left us vulnerable to our enemies militarily. Some people in America still worship this traitorous fool because they do not grasp the significance of Islamic Fascism the world over.
I hope this clarifies that I cannot and will not suggest what you argue against in your message. Thanks.
I’m not a very good christian. So I think I need help here…
Where in the bible did Jesus say
Oh wait? what? Jesus never said anything like that? oh ya.. right, must have been Holy Qur’an.
my bad…
(chapter nine for those on the left that actually BELIEVE that ROP stuff. Interesting reading Mohammad. Certainly none of that turn the other cheek, love thy neighbor as thyself or let he without sin be the first to cast the first stone stuff.)
Clinton was a moron, that’s a certainty, but I don’t think he’s an enemy to america.
Well, not for the reasons you state.
I’m not 100% on this, but I don’t think Clinton ordered the proceedures the Cole was using. Maybe the ROE, but the rest? That’s a lot of micromanagement…
No, I’d rather think Clinton was an enemy to the US when he went to Moscow when he was dodging the draft.
But that’s just me. My old man was in Vietnam.
I just can’t get my head around the HATE you people seem to have.
If you’re going to associate CLinton with the fight against islamic jihad, be mad that he turned down the offer of Osama bin Laden.
*shakes his head* I’m just shocked by you folks… This isn’t the conservative movement/republican party I was raised to know…
No, it isn’t the conservative movement/republican party of yesteryear…as I’ve been saying OLLIE NORTH IN 08!!!!!!…but to rest of the confused individuals on this page who think Christianity is evil I think I’ll just turn the other cheek, but remember them in my prayers…
Thanks for posting the wonderful Robert Spencer interview, Michelle. I am not a Christian, but I support our Judeo-Christian heritage, and fully understand the physical and social threat the Jihadists pose to us.
I will fight the good fight against them.
Nice to hear Robert elegantly and accurately dismiss the Crusades smoke-blowing of CAIR et al.
Islam’s message isn’t rocket science or Theology 101
Again, I am greatly perturbed by even the lack of a squeak of protest by “moderate muslims” against the radical Islamists, not just abroad but here in this country as well. No one wants their head blown off raising it, I understand that, but the “fewer” radicals and zealots can’t — or shouldn’t be able to — intimidate joined mass cries of repudiation from “peaceful” mosques against the radicals and terrorists, and we’re just not hearing it. In a nutshell, the message is that we are mere dirt infidels, and if we were scratched off the face of the earth it’s no skin off Islam’s nose. One thing that REALLY gets to me is how major Women’s Rights organizations all over seem so mum on this when they should be shrieking down the rafters about how radical Islamists (dis)regard its females. Where’s all the hate against smug cozy mullahs who desire and demand all women be shackled in kitchens and bedrooms (and beat them senseless or decapitate them in public if they dare balk back) and their girls never see the daylight of a schoolroom. I guess these “progressive” groups have spent all their dribbling hate on other people who honor their females. The sheer gall and hypocrisy of some gets to me! These zealots must NOT get their paws on the Bomb, at all costs!
James Greenidge
Queens NY
Sweet Screaming Baby Jesus. I’ve heard it all now.
Hate? Not by a long shot, Swf.
You are switching the argument.
Let’s stick to the knitting. The USS Cole happened on his watch as did the sale of the strategic petroleum reserve. Clinton signed the orders.
Mad? Angry? Not by a long shot. I cannot afford to be angry and resentful *any more* about things *I do not control*.
Clinton is just one example of an elite class politician who sold his Country, US, down the river while having his ego stroked as the sale was going down.
I can bring it onto the level of the college professors who are now promoting Truther doctrine in their classrooms while collecting state salaries. Do I hate them? Am I mad at them?
Not by a long shot, swf. Not by a long shot. Does their behavior contribute to the aggregate impact of increased shari’ah creep and Islamic Fascist exploitation via violence, extortion (CAIR), etc? Yes. Am I calling it as I see it? Yes.
Why? Because I refuse to be among the millions who cannot see farther ahead than their “retirement”, their next vacation, cashing in on the equity they’ve built in their lives and careers, etc.
One has no choice *but* to see the unfolding deluge that is coming a) if one understands the history of Islam as a military movement based on “religious” principles, laws, and norms for conformist behavior; and 2) comprehends what America does when attacked and, ultimately, martials its every last resource *and innovates technologically* to destroy its enemies.
The process doesn’t create enemies out of thin air or from misguided emotions. No, nothing of the kind.
It comes from a clear evaluation of our Country’s founding principles and the words of the founders, which were written with great foresight about the enemies within and outside our Republic who would seek to destroy it.
Just ordered it from Amazon, it looks like it will be another excellent read. Thanks for the tip Michelle!
Two things… First, it’s swj, not swf.
Second:
I’ll grant you the Selling off of the reserve. It was a purely political move that didn’t do jack for prices… But by your above logic, Bush is responsible for 9/11.
No, I don’t think that Bush, or anyone in the Bush administration (then or now) was responsible for 9/11…
I can’t believe I had to type that.
As for my statement of “hate”, I can’t really call it anything else. I’ve seen calls on here to shut down every Mosque, and imprison every muslim. What else would you call that?
I thought WE were the ones who didn’t act like morons. I thought we left that to the liberals…
Bear,
You make some compelling points, but Clinton as an “elite politician”? While, all 43 presidents have been in some sense elite, Clinton’s background was relatively humble compared with other presidents. Having a father who was president and a grandfather who was a senator. Now, that’s pretty elite territory.
Bear,
Don’t bother with swj-he’s an islam apologist and devout follower of PC speak. I got sucked in on another thread. It does no good as he either doesn’t get it or doesn’t want to get it…
You really are a moron if this is what you think, JWS.
If you persist in how you want to say things, your word will be dismissed, because they are incorrect. Just like you can’t correctly say “all illegal immigrants are violent criminals”, you can’t say “all muslims are jyhadists”. You want to say that, fine, but your words will be dismissed.
And rightly so.
If you can’t be bothered at adopt some proper terms, you’re going to get shouted down as an islamaphobe.
Yes, almost 33% of polled muslims think that at least some of the time terror bombings are acceptable. Should that number f*cking terrify you? Of hell yes it should. It should bother the crap out of you.
But 33% is not, has never been, and will never be, 100% of muslims. You talk like my next door neighbor will blow me up tomorrow.
I doubt he will. Retired Marines don’t usually do that. I could be wrong, but I would bet my life on his love of this country.
You wanna shut down his Mosque? Your funeral. He’d kick your ass just like I’d kick your ass for shutting down my lLuthern church.
Do you not SEE the HATE in your words? Reagan is spinning in his f*cking GRAVE right now, you nit wit!
You sound like a god damn Liberal version of the KLAN JWS. WHERE did you learn to hate every single muslim. WHERE?
swf,
As my friend Oogie would say – Ahhh, go on…
All the best to you and your “Marine” buds, kicking ass and defending that mosque of yours.
My military friends and family tend to lean a bit more towards my way of thinking…
Btw, don’t give a thought to the misquotes you attributed to me, or to the vailed threat you put out there. Cyber-tough guys worry me not.
Now. Enough. To bed with you. And you better have done your homework….
Ease off, troops. We have Sharia-ites, Islamists, Liberals/Socialists, and Illegals to fight, save the energy for them. We are a small house, as Robert Spencer and Michelle said, not many of us understand the threats we face and have the ammunition to fight. And a small house cannot afford serious divisions.
First off, JWS, it’s swj, not swf. Reverse your three, and you got it.
You missed where I said I was Luthern, didn’t you…
You really are unhinged.
If you think all muslims want to kill us, you must not think much of the troops fighting in Iraq…
But go ahead. Be mistaken for an islamophobe in the wider public debate. Don’t make much of a difference to me.
Robert Spencer is a hero! Islam as practiced by the Islamofascists will never be peace because if Earth ever became ruled by Sharia Law all the multitudes of Islamic factions that hate each other would keep fighting each other forever.
Educate ourselves and others!
The Religion of Peace
Prophet of Doom
The Brussels Journal
Jihad Watch
Gates of Vienna
Hard To Swallow
absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
allow religions to kill
believe its followers
when they claim to be peaceful
absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
never criticize prophets
there is no hateful scripture
claim it can’t be translated
Do American Liberals Want a Taliban Europe?
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