The search for Ellen Goodman’s “intrepid graduate student”
Last week, Boston Globe columnist Ellen Goodman trotted out the old “Blogosphere=Boys’ Club” meme. I didn’t bother linking or commenting, because all the whining from feminists about sexist male bloggers is just so old and boring. But there was one paragraph that piqued my interest. Goodman wrote:
I began tracking the maleness of this media last spring while I was a visiting fellow at Harvard’s Shorenstein Center on the Press, Politics, and Public Policy. An intrepid graduate student created a spreadsheet of the top 90 political blogs. A full 42 percent were edited and written by men only, while 7 percent were by women only. Another 45 percent were edited or authored by both men and women, though the “coed” mix was overwhelmingly male. And, not surprisingly, most male bloggers linked to male bloggers.
I was curious about the spreadsheet whose results Goodman saw fit to print in her Globe column. I’m not doubting its veracity. I’d just like to know more about which 90 political blogs were chosen by the “intrepid graduate student,” what criteria were used to assess the gender mix of group blogs, and how blogger-to-blogger links were analyzed. Just curious, you know? So, I e-mailed Ms. Goodman and her for the name of the spreadsheet author:
From: Michelle Malkin
Date: Aug 13, 2007 11:07 AM
Subject: Copy of spreadsheet you referred to?
To: ellengoodman@globe.com
Ms. Goodman -
I am a female blogger. I’d like to see the spreadsheet you referred to in
your column about women and the blogosphere…
…Could you please refer me to the author so that I may obtain a copy?
Thank you.
Best,
Michelle Malkin
Here was Ms. Goodman’s reply:
On 8/14/07, goodman@globe.com
Dear Michelle— I know you’re a female blogger. In fact you were near the
top of our spread sheet and as a conservative and woman you defy those
other realities I was writing about. The curse of MSM writing is that we
do, in fact, have word limits so that and other tidbits end up on the
cutting room floor. Anyway, I’m not comfortable passing along my
researcher’s work. We’re hoping to use it for a conference this [fall]
or at least for background. After that I’ll ask her how she feels about it.
Cheers,
Ellen Goodman,
Eenteresting, no?
My follow-up:
Thanks for your reply, but my question was whether you would refer me to
the author of the study so that I may ask her directly about obtaining a
copy of her work, not whether you would pass on her work to me. Would you
please let me know her name?
And Ms. Goodman’s final response:
I’m on vacation but if you remind me after labor day, I’ll see if she wants
me to pass along her name, etc…cheers
Well. The results of the spreadsheet are good enough to publicize in her column, but we’re not able to look at the data ourselves until Ellen Goodman is good and ready to share what she has seen and cited.
Typical MSM gatekeeper arrogance.
“Intrepid graduate student,” if you are out there, drop me a line. There are no word limits in the blogosphere. I’d be happy to reproduce your entire spreadsheet here so bloggers of both sexes, who appreciate open-source journalism, can take a closer look.
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Why am I having Mary Mapes/Bill Burkett vibes?
If I could give it to you I would, but I can’t so therefore I won’t. However, in the future, if possible, I will, providing I have the right as ascertained by the author, to provide it if you are a female or shemale or male, etc, but only if I am not attibuted as it would corrupt the study and spreadsheet accuracy, I think.
check that…I misinterpreted them…more like Jayson Blair/Steven Glass/Scott Beauchamp vibes.
Sounds like we are dealing with truthiness, not truth, from Ms. Goodman.
I’m sure she’ll find a female grad student to gin up the results she wants.
No, don’t go there. I don’t like flip references to Blair/Glass/Beauchamp. Don’t be dense. Read what I wrote:
Gosh, Michelle, I hope you’re not holding your breath waiting for this information. I have a feeling, don’t know why really, that you’ll never ever ever get a copy of that spreadsheet.
Something in the coding of wordpress and typepad doesn’t allow males to link to females… same with registering domains, a lot of women get tripped up when they ask “are you a man?”, they don’t know that you have to answer “yes” to the question to register a domain.
Oops, nevermind. By the way, that spreadsheet doesn’t sound all that empirical.. there’s only a few million blogs out there…
CHEERS!
Hey Michelle, can’t you give her enough time to create the source for the article that she already quoted from? Fake but accurate takes time.
Old USSR joke.
Man confronts KGB agent, “please give me proof for claim I read right here in PRAVDA.”
KGB agent says, “right here.”
Man says, “but you give me same PRAVDA, another copy.”
KGB agent, “that is your proof.”
Michelle, whenever someone is hesitant to reveal the name of their source you have to wonder about the neutrality of the source.
There’s something a bit odd here.
In the newspaper quote, Ms. Goodman refers to “an intrepid graduate student”. To me this just meant that some student had gone off on his/her own (intrepidly, if you will) and done this research. By some fortuitous happenstance this work had fallen into Ms. Goodman’s hands.
But in Ms. Goodman’s response to your email she refers to her discomfort at disclosing “my researcher’s work”, which implies that the student was working for her.
If the student was actually doing the work for Ms. Goodman, doesn’t she have control over how it is used?
Michelle, I respect your desire to not make flip references to “The Three Amigos.” Accusations like that should not be made or taken lightly, and I wouldn’t make them in this case based solely on the information given.
I would question, as you did, her unwillingness to share the author’s name with you. What “intrepid graduate student” wouldn’t desperately want his or her research (with name attached!) to be plastered all over a blog that is as widely read as yours? In a best case scenario, Ms. Goodman has given the extreme appearance of impropriety. In a worst case scenario, she is a fraud. We’ll probably never know where in that realm of possibility she falls, but it will be interesting to see if she follows up with you when she returns from her almost-month-long vacation. Please keep us updated.
Thank God for journalists, both web-based and MSM, who are willing to be open and honest with those upon whose patronage they depend.
Well if most bloggers are male, wouldn’t that be the way it works out statistically? This hardly seems like something worth noting, unless you’re grabbing at straws. Classy that she didn’t tack on the modifiers “heterosexual” and “white”, though.
OOPS - just checked the original article. Instead of “heterosexual white men”, we get “angry white men”, which I suppose could be interpretted the same in certain circles.
Well regardless, this research is yawn-inducing. Is anyone surprised by the results? And what are we expected to do with them?
you guys might want to take off the tin foil hats for a minute.
There are a dozen possible reasons why she didn’t release the info. Perhaps… omg.. she really wants to ask the student’s permission first?
I’m not going to get too wound up about it either way. Ms Goodman is a columnist and not a very good one at that. Probably why men don’t read her.
Shhhhhh…
You’re using math, and we all know about math…
Barbie tells us so.
Anyone wanna guess what the “AWG” stands for in my handle?
Don’t get me wrong Michelle. I’ll happily admit that I’m wrong. Nor do I doubt that her claims have some basis in fact. The majority of blogs are written/co-written by men. Off the top of my head I can really only think of 4 that I know of that are written by women: Huffington, Marcotte, yourself and MKH. (Not equating, just naming and I’m also aware that I’m missing many)
Just her whole dodging your requests for the spreadsheet makes me wonder if the spreadsheet (1)exists, (2)was an assignment by Goodman to some volunteer/employee or (3)was actually created by someone independent that brought it to her attention.
I would love to see a count of the actual number of blogs there are out there (probably impossible) and the number of blogs upon which the “intrepid graduate student” based the “research.” I’ll bet that’s an interesting percentage.
I wonder if the “intrepid graduate student’s” name was Darby Shaw. Does Ellen Goodman know Gray Grantham? Get Hollywood on the phone - I sense a moneymaking opportunity here. How about “The Pelican Brief 2: Even Briefer” or maybe “The Pelican Brief 2: Brief Writing and Even More Brief Research.” Any other ideas?
I’m kinda betting there ain’t a spreadsheet…….yet.
I
Young student at a kung-fu style monistary: “Master, how many blogs are there?”
Wise, old Master: *Holds up a mason jar filled to over-flowing with sand*
Student: “Is that how many blogs there are? One for each grain of sand?”
Master: “You are close… This is how many blogs were started this week…”
I want to see an article citing the following:
Leading Scientist
Concerned Parent
Unnamed Source
Government Official
Intrepid Graduate Student
Expert
It would be absolutely reliable in all respects.
And it still is.
If the topics are relevant, the logic and evidence compelling, and the writing crisp, then who gives a rat’s posterior about the sex of the author? Goodman seems to be arguing for some sort of “Title IX of the Blogosphere.” It’s ridiculous.
Goodman sounds rather like Amanda Marcotte railing about the “patriarchy.” Michelle is living proof that as far as blogs are concerned, a woman can be as successful as any man, and even more successful than most. Writing skill, a clear vision, hard work and persistence rule in this marketplace. None of those are gender-specific qualities.
Was it just me, or was the tone of her “I know you’re a female blogger” a little condescending in tone?
Like MM, I don’t doubt it’s veracity, but I’d be interested to know the criteria, methodology, etc. that went into the spreadsheet.
Sounds alot like the “I know his last name, I have it, but I’m not going to tell you” Tommy story Sen. Harry Reid spewed on the Senate floor.
Graduate students are of the adult age of consent. Why treat the GS like a child?
Then there is the matter of Goodman’s “comfort level” Sorry- it
isn’t the issue. It may be a perfect PC deflector in academe; but it isn’t the issue.
Is Goodman a professional or is she not?
Is she in a professional situation or is she not. The proper course of action, if she is, is clear.
Let’s lay it out for Goodman:
1.Professional journalist requests the name and contact information of a source of research results cited in a publically released article, results that are even being presented at a conference where people are more than likely paying a registration fee to hear the results.
2. Cough it up. Schnell. That is the professional reply.
3. Negative response: “I don’t feel comfortable…..”I am on vacation…contact me after Labor Day…..”
Negative response puts Goodman in same stead with the “Climate Change Scientists” who wouldn’t divulge the sources of their NASA sponsored research findings on “Global Warming”.
(Yes, I know, MM wasn’t asking for the research per se…merely asked for the source, but it is the same principle.)
Why is Goodman refusing?
Did she do something the intrepid grad student didn’t know about?
Did she peak over the shoulder of a grad student and publish something she shouldn’t have?
All these questions arise because Goodman gives the appearance of impropriety.
Let’s hope I’m wrong.
I’m curious about the methodology just because sometimes people don’t honestly state their gender in their online ID. A while back there was a blogger who went by some name like “Hot Libertarian Chick” or something like that who, if I recall correctly, turned out to be a not-very-hot libertarian dude.
Priceless! The suck-up before the let-down.
You guys are reading an awful lot into this . . .
On my blogroll, about 22 of the 85 blogs are either run by women or have women co-bloggers (eg Jane Novak at the Jawa Report, LauraW at Innocent Bystanders). (Not sure about “Zombie”.)
What’s more, I think those are blogs I tend to link to more.
So again, there are interesting discussions to be had about how Goodman’s conclusions were arrived at.
“A full 42 percent were edited and written by men only, while 7 percent were by women only. Another 45 percent were edited or authored by both men and women…”
That adds up to 94 percent. How do you classify the gender of the remaining 6 percent? “Other?”
SWJ- the Kwai Chang Kane scene….might this thread with Goodman end with her being told: “It’s time for you to leave?” Nice job
Michelle,
I know you say you don’t doubt the veracity of the study Goodman cited, but her refusal to release it or its author’s name suggests only one thing: Goodman is very uncomfortable with the study she cited being scrutinized. As such, she should never, ever have cited it.
“Whatever”, of course.
Didn’t Edwards try to use female bloggers. Man, that was a disaster! I guess he couldn’t get Michelle to jump ship and go left. Michelle would have brought much needed class to his campaign. I just can’t bring myself to envision Michelle in a tinfoil hat.
Nope, not happening and I have a great imagination!
“I’m not comfortable….”?????…now that is really lame for a columnist of her alleged stature….as if somehow letting Michelle have the data was going to give her acid indigestion…a more likely reason she wasn’t ‘comfortable’ is that she knows damn well Michelle would make mincemeat of both the ‘intrepid graduate student’ and the conclusions Ellen reaches….hardly surprising considering she thinks that those of us who disagree with anAL GOREtentive about ‘global warming’ are the ‘moral equivalent of holocaust deniers”…same smug arrogance,same pig ignorance
lawlcats silly! Doesn’t everyone know that
More like Kill Bill, and Michelle plucks out Goodman’s eye…
I think we can all take a breath and relax a bit. Sure, it would be nice to know more about Goodman’s source….
But we’re not talking about a story in the MSM here that pops up and then disappears into the abyss.
I don’t think Michelle is one to let things go unfinished. I am sure that soon after labor day we can expect an update and trackback to this story with further details.
So, for the time being, let’s not be like the Kos-by kids and jump to all sorts of unproven conclusions. I’m sure our gracious host will not let this question go unanswered for any longer than necessary.
Note: What I am about to say is predicated on the assumption that the grad student in question was working at the behest and under the direction of Ms. Goodman (which was the impression I got).
If that is the case then I would really think the data belongs at least partly to Goodman, for her to do what she will with it (for better or worse), just as any work an employee does for an employer belongs to the latter.
Also, Goodman mentions she and the student are planning on presenting the findings at conference. If that is the case, I think its perfectly legitimate that she would want to withhold the raw data to be used in that paper until it is presented. Would you want to go through all the trouble of collecting and analyzing potentially valuable data and not have the first crack at presenting an interpretation of it?
Now if the grad student was doing this on her own and then shared her results with Goodman, I think it only fair that Goodman either pass on the name to MM or let the student know that MM is trying to get in contact with her and let the student make up her mind as to whether or not to share the data.
I wonder if MM is going to attend that conference????
I’m not sure, but my guess would be that the remaining percentage were cases where they were unable to fully ascertain what category a blog fell into (e.g. unsure whether there were all male authors or whether it was a mix)
Just a hunch, but I’ll bet that the Harvard grad student hears of this, and does the right thing by providing a copy to Michelle. My guess is within 3 days.
They may have been transsexual blogs… hence the confusion.
Half the blogs I read are written by women.
It’s natural for someone to be hesitant before referring a source, especially if that source is a grad student who may not want to get in the middle of the blogosphere.
However, an explanation of the extra 6% may be in order.
I’ll take that bet Palini, I think it’s another “imaginary friend story”
At first I thought “how can we fix this disparity?” We could implement a fairness doctrine except for gender instead of politics. Then I read Regulus’ comment and realised that we already have this in college. We can cut and paste it to the blogosphere and have Title IX of the Blogosphere. Thanks Regulus.
One thing that struck me about this whole story - is what’s keeping the women from blogging? Nothing!
The story cites that “An intrepid graduate student created a spreadsheet of the top 90 political blogs.”
Aren’t political blogs like political talk-radio? The best always rise to the top? ( Best being subjective depending on your political leanings, of course )
If a woman is a good writer, finds good topics, is logical, fair-minded, and all that - chances are, she’ll be successful ( hat-tip to Michelle ).
If she sucks at what she does - to put it bluntly - nobody is going to read it.
Same goes for a man.
This has nothing to do with equal opportunity - the opportunities are there - everyday - from any corner of the WORLD!
I would contend that this has less to do with women bloggers having opportunities than finding quality women bloggers who devote their time to this endeavor.
How is “political blog” defined? For instance, although it’s ofter referred to as “conservative”, I would not consider Little Green Footballs to be a political blog.
jrlingreenbay:
I don’t think the point of the article was that there is a disparity in opportunity. Its that there is a disparity on how women political bloggers are perceived by the audience as opposed to their male counterparts. The article is not really well developed, which is probably why Goodman wants to do a full paper on it, but it seems to me that the underlying assumption is that (with some exceptions) women who write or speak about politics are not taken as seriously as men. Thus female political bloggers are less likely to achieve any notoriety or success, and thus the disparity in numbers.
Look thataway>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
How many ladies on the blogroll? I didn’t bother to count but I’m sure it’s more than 7.There’s also Helen Reynolds,to name just one off the top of my head.
Waitaminute… she can check her email and surf the internet on vacation, but she can’t forward an email from Michele Malkin to a graduate student?
And, just in case she’d forgotten the woman’s email, how hard could it be to look it up online? I mean, she is a graduate student. Because she’s technically a teaching resource, she can’t be anonymous at the university she attends. So what’s the big deal about going to a D-I-R-E-C-T-O-R-Y and finding the name, and forwarding over the email? Why do we have to wait a few weeks? Why wait at all? Or is all that time spent reading “Feministing” too valuable to waste on something trivial like that?
I didn’t bother linking or commenting, because all the whining from feminists about sexist male bloggers is just so old and boring.
I wrote on this article because it was so far afield from my own experience as a female blogger.
I have learned in the last 3 years that it is hard to compete with the big blogs, male or female bloggers, when the main gist is political blogging. I love the subject, but have neither the contacts nor the reach to make any impact or to get there first. It is hard to compete with the predominately male milblogs basically because I can only speak to military matters from a spouse’s point of view. So, I deactivated my first blog that was devoted mostly to politics and military issues and started a brand new blog targeted to Baby Boomer and retiree issues, something that until I got to this age was boring to me, and in only 4 1/2 months I’ve seen the counter register what it took me nearly 2 years to do on the old blog. I try to write about the subjects that I’m asking my own questions about. Issues that have only come to the forefront for me since I became a Seasoned Citizen. When I get sucked back into the political issues, viewership drops off, when I come back to issues that are more lifestyle and health related, my viewership takes a leap.
I don’t think this has anything to do with male or female and has everything to do with finding the right niche and audience for the blogger’s expertise and personal interests.
Whining feminists are more than a pet peeve with me, but I’ve fought that battle back in the 1970s and I cannot believe it is being resurrected. Now that is boring.
Re: ajmontana #45
If there really is an “intrepid grad student,” all Goodman would have had to say was that she’d alert him/her about Michelle’s request. Wonder why Goodman didn’t think to do that? /not really wondering
Liberals hate to be forced to prove that what they are saying is true.
We are supposed to eat the mush they feed us.
There is a saying that pops up routinely on message boards, usually in connection to the latest tabloid rumors involving Hollyweird starlets: “Pictures or it didn’t happen.”
Modify as appropriate here.
I doubt the veracity of her “researcher’s
study. I doubt the existence of the “intrepid graduate student.” I doubt the legitimacy of any of Goodman’s claims.
I think that all these “experts,” “specialists,” etc. that are frequently noted, but rarely identified are either not real, or so un-credible that no one would seriously consider what they say if they were named.
This is just more of the typical Democrat media nonsense.
Goodman’s whole column is a bore - you’re right there MM. The blogosphere is open to anyone, but she sees a vast Angry White Male conspiracy to keep female political bloggers unread.
Her intrepid grad student probably exists, and probably got extra brownie points from Visiting Fellow Goodman for producing this drivel, but so what if only 7% of political blogs are written by women? If you don’t ask women chosen at random (not your MSM buddies) why they aren’t writing political blogs, and you don’t ask readers why they do or don’t read certain blogs, you will have no answers or insights, and the statistics themselves mean nothing. That won’t matter to her of course, in the MSM they are long used to providing their own opinions as fact or insight. Their opinions will probably be presented at that conference and will be as meaningless as her columns.
Sorry, MM, but all it would take for her to contact her grad student would be to hit the forward button on the email and send the electrons whizzing through cyberspace. That would allow the graduate student to make up her mind and get back to you if she so desired.
The fact that Goodman does not do that much makes me think there is no “there” there.
All the empty politeness of a “We’ll call you!” comment or a “Dear John” letter.
How bold of the dowager princess of the MSM to not consider the honest response to her remarks. She’s a princess by that alofty attitude from the commons, and a dowager, because for sure as the sun rises in the morning a columnist who forgets that her readers have independence of spirit and mind has made herself a widow of them.
Personally, I’m quite thrilled that Goodman was able to make it through an entire e-mail without endorsing abortion rights. Do her editors know that she’s suddenly become able to accomplish such a feat?
Labor Day is Sept 3 this year; just three weeks. It will be interesting to see what she replies at that time.
Please ask Ms. Goodman what conference she expects to use it at or as background for something in the fall.
It’s only a few months, ask again in November about being put in contact with the researcher/IGS (Intrepid Graduate Student).
Pal2Pal–I think you’ve really hit it with the niche/interests/expertise theory.
I stopped reading specific blogs about quilts–about 99% of quilt blogs are by women–when they began posting anti-Bush screeds every day. Women do write about politics, but seldom exclusively, and no one looking for political writing is going to go a hobby or “mommy” blog first.
Heck, I’ve recently started my own blog about politics, but there’s a lot of football creeping in. Gotta find my niche.
a conservative AND a woman blogger.. if there is a spreadsheet, I’m surprised you weren’t thrown..
you throw off the curve quite a bit..
Also, I just noticed, ‘defy those other realities I was writing about’, is she implying that there is a right wing slant to bloggers?
of course, if there is, there needs to be some sort of internet fairness doctrine..
“Absolute competence, or extreme incompetence. Beating the Bell Curve is like that…”
I read Michelle first, then LGF, jihadwatch, Tammy Bruce, Laura Ingraham, and finally Ann Coulter.
Not the only things I read, but the ones I read the most.
2/3s female.
Is that enough to make a research paper for Ms. Goodman?
oh man.. it was late when I wrote that last night.. I meant to say.
out..
sorry
I’d have to agree with Goodman on this. IF there is a spreadsheet, she is right to ask the author’s permission before giving it out, even to our esteemed Michelle.
Fortunately for us, Michelle won’t rest until she gets something more concrete, like….an answer or the big brush-off. At which time the Firecracker’s fuse will light in a blaze of sparking fury.
Well, I’d like to give you the contact info Michelle, but aaaahh, the dog ate my Blackberry. I got a flat tire. My tux didn’t come back from the cleaners. Locusts!!
90 is such a clunky number. Most people would have done 50 or 100. I wonder if maybe once she has time to create the spreadsheet she went with 90 because any other “sample” would have skewed her conclusions. It sounds like more liberal research, whereby you start with a conclusion and work backwards from there.
I know that you don’t doubt its veracity, but when you do get that spreadsheet, check ‘file - properties’ to see the author / editor name, along with the date created. Just a thought.
Thank you Michelle, I got to send my email to the “lady” after all. I heard about her “column”. I have never liked her and forgot to email her. Now I have:
Ms. Goodman, I am a blogger and a woman, fancy that! To be true, (you do know the meaning of that word, don’t you?),I read mostly male bloggers, and a few excellent women bloggers. I do not read hateful and/or crazy females, however. I have been linked by my blogroll to some of these and the
hatred that is spewed, not only at things conservative, but generally at men, businesses, and in one instance (I believe there is a restraining order against this female professor) a child. There is no “discussing” and posts are generally overrun by the same ilk, deleted or banned. Why waste my time on homo sapiens of the female persuasion that have only hate in their “hearts’.
Your researcher might try contact Michelle Malkin and get a list of
the wonderful core of female bloggers we have on the right. If,that is, she is not one of these females described above, in which case, it would be a waste of our time.
Sincerely,
Why is every post I make on every thread deleted?
Webmasters?
Let’s go into a different area here. My personal website is in a group called the Maryland Bloggers Alliance that numbers 33 blogs - my count is 27 guys and 6 ladies within. Not all of us blog about politics. I note this to give you an idea of the peer group I’m in and relate to.
What I look for in websites I frequent is good writing on topics I find interesting, and that talent knows no gender restrictions. And unless the person’s name is on the website, I can’t generally tell by the writing which gender is responsible. Moreover, the audience I’m seeking to reach is that of people my age and under who seem, for the most part, less into typical gender stereotypes. So I think Ms. Goodman is trying to stir up an issue where none exists because the top 90 political blogs likely got that way because they’re either well-written, on subjects which have popular appeal, or both.
I would like to see how this story eventually develops though.
Perhaps the intrepid grad student is doing her thesis on this subject. I don’t like Ellen Goodman at all either but hope that she does follow through.
There is, of course, no complete catalog of blogs. It changes by the minute.
With that said, there are some interesting lists that can be used as “directional.”
Drudge’s list of columnists and bloggers is pretty well known. It’s his personal list, of course, and it therefore contains his bias.
Even so, I did a quick tally and here’s what I came up with:
There are 116 links there, as of this writing.
5 of them are either broken, co-written, or “I can’t tell.”
86 of them are attributed to men. That’s about 77% of the 111 that can be identified as either male or female.
The remaining 25 sites, including this one, are clearly run/written by women.
Goodman’s grad student identified 49 sites that were either male or female, but not both. 42 of those, or 86%, were male.
Both Drudge and the “Mystery List” support the hypothesis that the blogosphere is primarily male. That doesn’t mean that this data proves anything, of course, but it’s a couple of data points.
Unlike the mystery list, this list is now published and verifiable…
BTW, what difference does it make if the blogosphere is mostly male or not? Welcome to freedom. Anyone can blog, for free, at any of a dozen locations. I blog. So what? If men want to write more than women, why is that a bad thing? Or a good thing, for that matter?
Good grief, talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill.
How many Globies are transgender?
.
Whine, gripe and moan. Apparently she is really proving her own point, isn’t she now? Women seem to be their own worst enemy…does she really think she is helping the proverbial “Cause” by making us all sound like a bunch of cry baby girls because the boys won’t link us into their blog sites! Give me a huge freakin’ break.
Who wants to link to someone like this (or anyone else who actually agrees with her)?
Michelle doesn’t seem to have any problems getting links. But perhaps that is because she is actually talented and not out there feeling sorry for herself!
MM is right…this is a tired old argument (yawn)…IMHO it makes women look like a bunch of petty little ninnies!
it is after labor day now..
time to put the bee in Ellen’s bonnet about that spreadsheet..