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1. #1
   On August 17th, 2007 at 5:05 pm, bear1909 said:

   My daughter lives in Brussels and is married to an EU government employee. Unofficial word is that there is absolute alarm in Belgium that it will cease to exist as it has traditionally because of the out of control immigration (many illegals), birth rates, and over burdening of the welfare state entitlement system.

   Weird scenes unfolding. Fear of Muslim violence are controlling local politics.

   As Steyn says- “It’s just a question of how bloody it is going to get.”

2. #2
   On August 17th, 2007 at 5:16 pm, planetgeo said:

   I agree with Steyn. I was born in Europe and am now a U.S. citizen. The Europeans have gone through a very long (for them) period of peace, mainly due to complete military dependency on the U.S.. But their warrior history and warrior genes are still there. The EU bureaucrats are about to find that out. It’s not even a question of whether it’s going to get bloddy, it’s only a question of when.

3. #3
   On August 17th, 2007 at 5:36 pm, JWS said:

   The western world (AKA civilization) needs to prohibit any and all immigration from arab/ muslim countries. Period. The experts (Spencer et al) keep telling us that islam is a political movement with designs on world domination. Yet our brilliant “leaders” keep insisting it is a “religion of peace”, submit piece by piece (see cab drivers in Minn, prayers in Mich, foot baths at airports, etc…), and tell us we can trust a group who follow a ridiculous book which instructs them to lie to us “infidels” in order to further their goals.

   Someone please tell me what anyone from one of these countries that is stuck in the 7th century, brings to the USA that we can’t supply ourselves…

4. #4
   On August 17th, 2007 at 5:43 pm, Jarhead said:

   Could this mean that Brussels sprouting in to total chaos.

5. #5
   On August 17th, 2007 at 5:44 pm, Miss Ladybug said:

   Well, I welcome people from those countries that speak out about the problems with Islam… Those who openly do so are risking their very lives because of it.

6. #6
   On August 17th, 2007 at 5:48 pm, jferg49 said:

   It’s not just Brussels…it’s most of Europe!…I understand in 20 years, France will be majority muslim!…it’s not too late for brussels…but they have to act quickly…it’ll be even bloodier later if they don’t move now. The west has opened her doors to poor uneducated people for a long time. The chickens have come home to roost…in the old days, people moved to western nations to feed their family and have a future. Now days, they come to take, take, take and don’t assimilate. I won’t be around in 25-30 years…but my daughter will…and I don’t want her to have to wear a mask and robes…we need to start in the U.S. now. Stop the influx of muslims…if they want a religious muslim country with sharia (SP?), then stay where they are and don’t pollute our culture with their tribal primative religion.

7. #7
   On August 17th, 2007 at 5:49 pm, Jarhead said:

   I have read both Robert Spencers book and Mark Steyn’s book. Both are excellent books. A must read, Michelle, Robert and Mark I can not thank you enough for the good work you all do, keeping us all informed on these issues. May God Bless you and keep you safe.

8. #8
   On August 17th, 2007 at 5:51 pm, JWS said:

   On August 17th, 2007 at 5:44 pm, Miss Ladybug said:
   Well, I welcome people from those countries that speak out about the problems with Islam… Those who openly do so are risking their very lives because of it.

   Agree, to a point. The problem is how do we sort out the jihadi’s from the rest. Given the stakes of the game (nukes?), I can live without their presence. Better they straighten out their problems over there first…

9. #9
   On August 17th, 2007 at 5:54 pm, Jarhead said:

   I just hope they (Europe) are starting to wake up and it’s not to late.

10. #10
    On August 17th, 2007 at 5:56 pm, Snooper said:

    There can only be “free speech” if we agree with them. We cannot have “free speech” if we disagree with them.

    They, on the other hand, can have free speech all the time.

    After all, they are Jihadists.

11. #11
    On August 17th, 2007 at 5:57 pm, 24Klady said:

    I find “fjordman” offers some of the best insight into northern Europe. He submits articles for both Gates of Vienna and Brussels Journal - every now and then he’ll show up, out of nowhere, on LGF.

12. #12
    On August 17th, 2007 at 5:59 pm, JWS said:

    On August 17th, 2007 at 5:48 pm, jferg49 said:

    Zackly. If we don’t take action now the blood will run in our streets. You and I won’t see it, but our kids most likely will. Every time some PC idiot says he’ll fight for islams right, the enemy just smiles and inches foreward. They gots aaaalllllll day…

13. #13
    On August 17th, 2007 at 6:02 pm, Speakup said:

    The final question is, will Europe actually fight to save itself?

14. #14
    On August 17th, 2007 at 6:15 pm, JWS said:

    On August 17th, 2007 at 6:02 pm, Speakup said:
    The final question is, will Europe actually fight to save itself?

    I think they’re toast. We have front row seats for the end of the world (apologies to Mark Steyn), and instead of taking a lesson (that we need one after 9/11 is amazing!), we’re STILL saying “not the ones I know, they’re such good people…” God help us…

15. #15
    On August 17th, 2007 at 6:18 pm, walterc said:

    At a family get together in June, a couple of my siblings told me that they were planning a trip to Scotland (being Campbell’s the Scottish hertiage is pretty strong). In addition, they figured a tour of the rest of GB and maybe a side trip to the continent (Netherlands, Belgium etc).

    When they invited me along my response was “Not a chance, do you people not keep up on current events?” The oldest sister (a devout Hillary fan and lifetime moonbat) suggested that I spend less time with my neocon friends. And then she went into the ROP and hijack by radicals etc. argument.

    Of course this was before the doctors blowing up their own place of employment in Glasgow, and I haven’t spoken to her since that last discussion. She refuses to talk to me.

    Never the less I won’t be touring GB with the family next spring.

16. #16
    On August 17th, 2007 at 6:21 pm, Don Miguel said:

    It’s not just Brussels…it’s most of Europe!…I understand in 20 years, France will be majority muslim!…

    No it won’t — it’s mathematically impossible unless France opens the floodgates. What will happen in a generation is about half of the youth will be Muslim due to demographics and current immigration (and that in itself is bad enough). What planetgeo said is quite likely in that enough Europeans are going to reach a breaking point and blood will flow. It’s not like Europe doesn’t have a lot of experience in that sort of thing.

17. #17
    On August 17th, 2007 at 6:50 pm, RobM1981 said:

    You’ve got to love Belgium. They’ve been kicked around enough to know that pushing back is sometimes the only way.

18. #18
    On August 17th, 2007 at 6:54 pm, 24Klady said:

    The worst part of losing Europe to the ROP is that it’ll be done without a shot fired. The only reason the EU would enlist our help is if Russia keeps ramping up. Otherwise, I’m all for closing every base we have there and bringing those troops home (as well as South Korea). Unfortunately, we need those in Germany. We had planned to make The Open in 2010 as it’ll be back at St. Andrews, then on to Norway. A lot of water will flow under those bridges before then.

19. #19
    On August 17th, 2007 at 7:27 pm, 24Klady said:

    RobM1981, The seat of the EU is based in Brussels. More than anyone, they’ve promoted the EU and have backed the immigration fiasco more than anyone. Laws have been changed to make it danged near impossible to even speak out against the ROP without risking arrest. Laws have been enacted that not a single resident of any of the member countries voted on. With their high taxation to cover cradle to the grave medical and social welfare programs the best and brightest are leaving and immigrating. As recommended, go to Brussels Journal and Gates of Vienna. Very few sites offer the insight on Europe they do.

    What a shame our own policies don’t open the door to most, if not all, of them. Instead, we “need” immigrants with 3rd world diseases, 3rd grade educations from 3rd world countries, with no hope of contributing anything other than a cheap head of lettuce or building a house where you have to bribe the building inspectors to get it passed. Amazing.

20. #20
    On August 17th, 2007 at 7:34 pm, Surak said:

    The most poignant comment above belongs to walterc who cares enough about his family to inform them about world affairs, the record of a certain throat-cutting religion against infidels and its war against the world’s women. What does he get in return? “She refuses to talk to me.”

    I have been writing some notes under the title of “The Psychological Crisis of Civilization”, to examine the desperate suicidal impulse of Western civilization, the flower of human history, and what factors cause educated people to make such self-destructive choices, making their best friends their mortal enemies and their mortal enemies their best friends.

    Is there still enough time left to save civilization? It depends on how badly we want to survive. I no longer take that for granted.

21. #21
    On August 17th, 2007 at 7:44 pm, Leatherneck said:

    The Tower of Babel was built in Brussels for the EU to hold it’s meetings. That is like sticking a finger in the air to G-d.

    The EU wants open borders, like Chertoff, and cheap labor. The ROP wants to change everyones culture. Who cares about Europe, they hate us, and Jamaat ul-Fuqra is inside our borders growing angry members.

22. #22
    On August 17th, 2007 at 7:52 pm, publiuswarmac9999 said:

    The socialist welfare state has always had the seeds of its own destruction built in. How insane is it that a government rewards failure and punishes success - and that is the very essense of the welfare state. A nation that rewards fools will eventually suffer from their folly.

    I find it interesting that France, Germany and the UK are electing more pro-American and more conservative leaders. I can only hope that this is a recognition that the USA has carried the heavy load and that Islam is a threat.

    Frankly, the only way to deal with Islam is to stop it. It cannot be accommodated because it refused to be accommodated or accommodating. At one time, Europe sent the Muslims packing back across the Mediterranean. Sounds like a similar action is now needed.

23. #23
    On August 17th, 2007 at 7:59 pm, JWS said:

    On August 17th, 2007 at 7:34 pm, Surak said:

    “Is there still enough time left to save civilization? It depends on how badly we want to survive. I no longer take that for granted.”

    There’s more than enough time, but decades of PC have left us as weak and ferocious as a newborn kitten. islam is wisely using the same tactics our minorities and special interest groups have used for decades, aided of course by our fabulous lawyers and wonderful media. We’ve been cowered by relentless charges of racism, sexism, homophobia. We’re afraid of ridiculous lawsuits and threatened in the workplace if we don’t toe the line. An event like 9/11 should have been over the line but we keep moving the line back. We could end this threat but: islam is a religion of peace!; you try to shut down my friend’s mosque and we’ll kick your ass!; not ALL muslims actually strap on bombs! And on and on…

24. #24
    On August 17th, 2007 at 9:25 pm, general company said:

    publiuswarmac9999 said:It cannot be accommodated because it refused to be accommodated or accommodating

    Very well said, seems the double standard is so obvious. I am at a loss as to why folks don’t realize that they are accommodating their very own demise

25. #25
    On August 17th, 2007 at 11:01 pm, Miss Ladybug said:

    I heard part of Glenn Beck this morning while I was out running errands. He was arguing that we can’t let this be a “holy war” because that is what the Islamofascist want it to be.

    In a way, it already IS a holy war - to our enemies; we, The West, have refused to call the enemy what they are and this fight what it truly is: a fight for civilization against hard-core religious zealots who want nothing less than either our submission to their will or our destruction…

26. #26
    On August 18th, 2007 at 1:40 am, palladin said:

    One other thing is Brussels is the ‘de Facto’ Capitol of the EU.

    This is like banning a protest in Washington DC.

27. #27
    On August 18th, 2007 at 12:22 pm, crashemt said:

    I was in Germany in late 2005. A co-worker and I decided to take a tour (France, Belgium, and Amsterdam) between jobs. Our bosses gave us a brief before leaving. Not about drugs and prostitution, which I would have expected. It was about:

    1)Beware any mosques. Americans are targeted in these areas for violence, kidnapping, and murder.
    2)Beware any housing areas where you see a pre-dominance of satellite dishes. State cable is extremely good in these countries, so if they have a dish, they are likely foreign and most likely Muslim. Americans are targeted in these areas for violence, kidnapping, and murder.
    3)Always be aware of the situations in the country. Violence in largely immigrant areas has increased since 2001.

    All of this culminated with a detailed description of recent riots in France, and Theo van Gogh’s murder by the Hofstad Network.

    I fear most of Europe has very little time. I am not surprised, as they ignored in impending signs of Hitler, Napolean

28. #28
    On August 18th, 2007 at 4:18 pm, Dandapani said:

    In 1974, former Algerian President Houari Boumedienne said in a speech at the U.N.: “One day millions of men will leave the southern hemisphere to go to the northern hemisphere. And they will not go there as friends. Because they will go there to conquer it. And they will conquer it with their sons. The wombs of our women will give us victory.”

    ’nuff said.

29. #29
    On August 18th, 2007 at 8:27 pm, heroyalwhyness said:

    On August 17th, 2007 at 6:21 pm, Don Miguel said:

    It’s not just Brussels…it’s most of Europe!…I understand in 20 years, France will be majority muslim!…

    No it won’t — it’s mathematically impossible unless France opens the floodgates. What will happen in a generation is about half of the youth will be Muslim due to demographics and current immigration (and that in itself is bad enough). What planetgeo said is quite likely in that enough Europeans are going to reach a breaking point and blood will flow. It’s not like Europe doesn’t have a lot of experience in that sort of thing.

    Pray we don’t repeat our response to the Balkans when it does reach a breaking point.

30. #30
    On August 19th, 2007 at 1:39 pm, Alphonse said:

    My understanding is that the U.S. takes in more immigrants that the rest of the world’s countries combined, so I wouldn’t be too worried about Europe. Nor are we too far behind in Moslems. A quick Google yields as many as 8 million U.S. Moslems, or about 2.7% compared to 450,000 Moslems in Belgium, or about 4%.

    http://www.islamonline.net/English/News/2003-07/26/article04.shtml
    http://www.islam101.com/history/population2_usa.html

31. #31
    On August 19th, 2007 at 7:51 pm, petergwynne75 said:

    The Christians in Yugoslavia tried to stop the Islamic Invasion of Europe but President Clinton targeted Christian positions in Bosnia…& the rest is history.