No more sanctuary for Elvira Arellano? Update: Deported back to Mexico Update: Arellano supporters push Obama to sponsor humanitarian visa; new illegal alien protest planned in D.C

By Michelle Malkin  •  August 19, 2007 08:44 PM

Update 11:15pm Eastern 8/20. The open-borders movement carries on. Planning for a new massive, pro-amnesty demonstration in Washington on Sept. 12 is underway–and Arellano’s supporters are pushing Sen. Barack Obama to sponsor a private bill to give a humanitarian visa to the deportation evader:

In Chicago this morning, more than 50 Arellano supporters demonstrated outside immigration offices at 536 S. Clark St., carrying signs reading “Stop the Raids” and “Stop Enforcing Racist Laws.”

Via speakerphone, Chicago activist Emma Lozano, who was with Arellano in Los Angeles, spoke to the demonstrators.

“Her spirits are high,” Lozano told the crowd, adding that federal officials sought “to silence her and clip her wings.”

Planning continued for a major demonstration Sept. 12 on the Mall in Washington to highlight the plight of illegal immigrants, Lozano said. Calling it “A Day Without Immigrants,” Lozano said the protest would revolve around a national boycott in which immigrants would be called on to stay away from their jobs and classrooms and refrain from making any purchases.

After demonstrating outside the Chicago immigration offices, the protesters moved on to the Kluczynski Federal Building, 230 S. Dearborn St., where five of them went up to the local office of Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) to urge him to introduce a private bill to provide a humanitarian visa for Arellano.

Update 3:02pm Eastern 8/20. Protests in Chicago. WCBS2:

Hundreds gathered in Chicago Monday morning to protest the arrest and deportation of illegal immigrant and immigration activist Elvira Arellano.

She was whisked away to Mexico Sunday after her arrest in Los Angeles. Now immigration activists say they’re fight is even stronger.

CBS 2′s Kristyn Hartman was at the rally near the immigration offices here in Chicago. She reports that the demonstration was peaceful – yet forceful.

Dozens and dozens of people came to the corner of Congress and Clark to protest the deportation of Elvira Arellano. They support the 32-year-old woman who admittedly re-entered the country illegally to be with her son. Eight-year-old Saul Arellano is a U.S. citizen.

More: “U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials are slated to have a news conference at noon in Chicago to discuss Arellano’s arrest and deportation.”

Update 2:15pm Eastern 8/20. Pro-amnesty forces set to hold a news conference in Los Angeles. Meanwhile, a blogger bashes the LA Times for failing to cover the Arellano story quickly enough (and throws in a swipe at the blogs, including this one, who have been covering it.) Here’s the LATimes story published this a.m.

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Update 10:15am Eastern 8/20. Tune in to the Laura Ingraham show. In just a few minutes, she’s scheduled to debate immigration and border security with open-borders hystericist Geraldo Rivera. Nuclear. Audio added at HA. My favorite Geraldo-ism. He claims he “invented” covering MS-13 gangs. He “invented” it!

Update 9:15am Eastern 8/20. The feds make a choice: Sovereign Nation over Sanctuary Nation. Arellano has been sent back to Mexico.

An illegal immigrant who took refuge in a Chicago church for a year to avoid being separated from her U.S.-born son has been deported to Mexico, the church’s pastor said.

Elvira Arellano became an activist and a national symbol for illegal immigrant parents as she defied her deportation order and spoke out from her religious sanctuary. She held a news conference last week to announce that she would finally leave the church to try to lobby U.S. lawmakers for change.

She had just spoken at rally Los Angeles rally when she was arrested Sunday outside Our Lady Queen of Angels church and deported, said the Rev. Walter Coleman, pastor of Adalberto United Methodist Church in Chicago, where Arellano had been living.

“She has been deported. She is free and in Tijuana,” said Coleman, who said he spoke to her on the phone. “She is in good spirits. She is ready to continue the struggle against the separation of families from the other side of the border.”

You’ve probably heard by now: Elvira Arellano, the illegal alien activist and deportation evader who left her Chicago church sanctuary to attend a pro-amnesty march in Los Angeles, was arrested.

Elvira Arrellano, a Mexican woman who sought sanctuary from deportation in a Chicago church was arrested Sunday in Los Angeles.

A spokesperson from the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency would not confirm Arrellano was taken in by ICE agents on Olvera Street, near La Placita Church, in the Los Angeles Civic Center area at about 3 p.m.

Arellano and her son Saul, 8, who is a U.S. citizen, were in Los Angeles seeking immigration reform and were staying at La Placita Church.

She visited three area churches to speak about immigration, but was arrested before she could go to a fourth church.

Arellano defied a deportation order to report to the Department of Homeland Security on Aug. 15, 2006. Instead, she sought refuge in the Adalberto United Methodist Church in the Humboldt Park area of Chicago.

According to the New Sanctuary Movement, more than 600,000 families in the United States have at least one member facing deportation because they are illegal residents.

Chicago Tribune has more. Keep an eye on ICE.

Allah ponders the timing.

Update: More from Associated Press…

Arellano was “being processed for removal to Mexico based upon a deportation order originally issued by a federal immigration judge in 1997,” U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement said in a news release.

Immigration activists promised protests and vigils to support her.

“We are sad, but at the same time we are angry,” said Javier Rodriguez, a Chicago immigration activist who worked with her. “How dare they arrest this woman?”

“How dare they?”

***

Related must-read: Mark Steyn has a powerful column on the Newark murders and sanctuary nation.

One could, I suppose, regard this as one of those unforeseen incremental consequences that happens in the darkest shadows of society. But that doesn’t extend to Newark’s official status as an illegal-immigrant “sanctuary city.” Like Los Angeles, New York and untold others, Newark has formally erased the distinction between U.S. citizens and the armies of the undocumented. This is the active collusion by multiple cities and states in the subversion of U.S. sovereignty. In Newark, N.J., it means an illegal-immigrant child rapist is free to murder on a Saturday night. In Somerville, Mass., it means two deaf girls are raped by MS-13 members. And in Falls Church, Va., it means Saudi Wahhabists figuring out that, if the “sanctuary nation” (in Michelle Malkin’s phrases) offers such rich pickings to imported killers and imported gangs, why not to jihadists?

“Tell Me Why They Had To Die”? Hard to answer. But tell me why, no matter how many Jose Carranzas it spawns, the nationwide undocumented-immigration protection program erected by this country’s political class remains untouchable and ever-expanding.

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  1. #101
    On August 20th, 2007 at 11:21 am, DesertLover said:

    He always breaks out that “more law abiding” crap …

    what he really means is they keep as low a profile as possible to keep from getting picked up by ICQ and deported …

    you know … the old “out of sight out of mind” …

  2. #102
    On August 20th, 2007 at 11:22 am, jah said:

    I bet Geraldo would not be so “open-minded” if illegals were coming in and taking news anchor positions. He would be whining and complaining if some illegal took his job. As long as they are coming in and working low-skill, low wage jobs liberals like Geraldo don’t care.

    I would love to see some illegal get his SSN and ruin his credit and create all the other associated problems. I bet he would be using his show to expose the lack of effort of our government to address this problem.

    As long as it’s happening to the “little people”, it doesn’t matter to him and those like him.

  3. #103
    On August 20th, 2007 at 11:24 am, ajmontana said:

    DL, Laura is still talkin about this if you go to wysl-1040 (google it) you can listen live. makin my morning :)

  4. #104
    On August 20th, 2007 at 11:26 am, xler8bmw said:

    you can also get her on KRLA 870

  5. #105
    On August 20th, 2007 at 11:37 am, DesertLover said:

    ok … and in my last I meant ICE … not ICQ … lol

  6. #106
    On August 20th, 2007 at 11:41 am, ajmontana said:

    lol didnt know ciao/caio was contagious.

  7. #107
    On August 20th, 2007 at 11:43 am, DesertLover said:

    must all be your fault aj … lol

  8. #108
    On August 20th, 2007 at 11:44 am, ajmontana said:

    :(

  9. #109
    On August 20th, 2007 at 11:50 am, PRCalDude said:

    Looks like the U.S. is going to be a Latino country in about 20 years, barring a civil war. Looks like it’s probably already too late. I went to the mall in Southern California this weekend and saw almost no white people. The political class really, really wants the U.S. to be like Mexico.

  10. #110
    On August 20th, 2007 at 11:53 am, ajmontana said:

    If I ever had the opportunity to buy Michelle, Ann Coulter and Laura Ingraham dinner it would be my pleasure. Have to invite KP also, we could just tease her a bit… :)

  11. #111
    On August 20th, 2007 at 12:02 pm, swj719AWG said:

    Dude, if you are intentionally leaving MKH off that list, I’m afraid I have to kick you outta the Guy Union…

  12. #112
    On August 20th, 2007 at 12:13 pm, davidleerothmann said:

    “Tell Me Why They Had To Die”? Hard to answer. But tell me why, no matter how many Jose Carranzas it spawns, the nationwide undocumented-immigration protection program erected by this country’s political class remains untouchable and ever-expanding”

    I can answer Mr. Steyn’s question in one simple word. Profits. I have lived in Texas for 20 years, and I have watched good paying, working class jobs become essentially unavailable to citizens and naturalized Americans. Less than a generation ago, a man could make a decent middle class living as a plumber, welder, electrician, construction worker, or in a variety of other trades. Those jobs were hard work, but they provided decent wages and benefits for many millions. Most of those jobs now go to illegals at very low wages. Who benefits from this scheme?

    The payroll savings simply rolls into the pockets of business owners, instead. I’m all for a free market economy, and I am pro-business. At what point do we halt the race to the bottom? They don’t want to stop the huge profits, so they lobby for open borders, and flaunt our existing laws. We wouldn’t stand for a drug company refusing to comply with the FDA and releasing drugs that were unsafe. We wouldn’t stand for a business that defied the EEOC, or bribed officials.

    Why do you imagine that thousands of people show up to apply for a few hundred jobs when a WalMart opens? Nothing wrong with WalMart, but many of these same folks would have had real career options 15 years ago. Now, they have WalMart and Home Depot to choose from. Hoo-ray? Not everyone in America can be a neurosurgeon or a patent attorney. We need decent jobs for people who don’t want to or cannot make it through a Phd program in Engineering.

  13. #113
    On August 20th, 2007 at 12:17 pm, Schweggie said:

    On August 20th, 2007 at 11:22 am, jah said:

    I bet Geraldo would not be so “open-minded” if illegals were coming in and taking news anchor positions. He would be whining and complaining if some illegal took his job. As long as they are coming in and working low-skill, low wage jobs liberals like Geraldo don’t care.

    I would love to see some illegal get his SSN and ruin his credit and create all the other associated problems. I bet he would be using his show to expose the lack of effort of our government to address this problem.

    As long as it’s happening to the “little people”, it doesn’t matter to him and those like him.

    Excellent points. Savage had a caller last Wednesday from a Hispanic American citizen who mentioned that there is growing alarm in the legal Hispanic community (native or legal immigrant) over identity theft. Because of the greater commonality with Hispanic names, identity theft is all too easy when can find with ease a legal victim with the exact same name. I’m interested to see what comes about from the legal Hispanic community over illegals going on a identity theft spree against them…

  14. #114
    On August 20th, 2007 at 12:17 pm, Pat said:

    It will be interesting to see how the media spin this. After all, we are returning to her home, not to a gulag. She faces no persecution whatsoever–she just prefers to live in the US even if it involves breaking the law. In the eyes of the media, Mexico is a wonderful country. Why wouldn’t she want to live there rather than big, bad America? As I say, it will be interesting.

  15. #115
    On August 20th, 2007 at 12:18 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    On August 20th, 2007 at 11:50 am, PRCalDude said:
    Looks like the U.S. is going to be a Latino country in about 20 years, barring a civil war. Looks like it’s probably already too late. I went to the mall in Southern California this weekend and saw almost no white people. The political class really, really wants the U.S. to be like Mexico.

    Not just the politicos but business too. We are now receiving at home retail flyers with spanish as the primary, or larger print language. 10 years ago it used to be english only , then spanish began appearing in small print, then in equally sized print, now larger print.

    Business in are bending over backwards to accomodate latinos and indoctrinating non-spanish speaking residents to spanish language.

    Habla Espanol? If you plan on moving to or remaining in the Southwest USA you’d better.

  16. #116
    On August 20th, 2007 at 12:18 pm, ajmontana said:

    swj, didn’t wanna be greedy… ;)

  17. #117
    On August 20th, 2007 at 12:23 pm, ajmontana said:

    Didn’t think I would agree with John Rocker (former MLB pitcher) on any issues but, his “Speak English” platform is one I can get behind.

  18. #118
    On August 20th, 2007 at 12:32 pm, Regulus said:

    I wasn’t optimistic that our law enforcement would actually do its job with this gal, but the notoriety seems to have been too much to let them ignore her.

    So she finally gets drop-kicked between the goalposts on the way back to Mexico: “It’s up…she’s got the distance…it’s good! GOOOOAAAALLL!!!”

    Anybody wanna start a betting pool on how long it’ll take her to find herself hiding in another church on this side of the border…?

  19. #119
    On August 20th, 2007 at 12:33 pm, almeehan said:

    “How dare they” dodo bird Javier Rodriguez needs to be in the slammer for aiding and abetting this fugative.

  20. #120
    On August 20th, 2007 at 12:35 pm, John Ansell said:
  21. #121
    On August 20th, 2007 at 12:36 pm, Schweggie said:

    Regarding Geraldo, our new intrepid MS-13 whistleblower update Michelle, I forgot that he also mentioned he’s writing a book on MS-13…

  22. #122
    On August 20th, 2007 at 12:43 pm, jah said:

    Business in are bending over backwards to accomodate latinos and indoctrinating non-spanish speaking residents to spanish language.

    Habla Espanol? If you plan on moving to or remaining in the Southwest USA you’d better.

    This is going to become a big problem. Right now the language of business, science and technology around the world is English. I remember reading several years back that there were about 300 million Chinese learning English.

    Why? They realize that to compete internationally they better know English. Those from India are learning the same lesson. The United States, Japan, China, India, and South Korea are going to be the big players in science and technology in this century.

    So where am I going with this?
    A) The rest of the world is lining up to learn English so they can compete in the international arena and yet we are not enforcing English here in the U.S. I think it was in “The World is Flat” where the author talks about a Korean businessman and a French businessman meeting, neither spoke the others language, but guess what, they both spoke English.

    B) It would be better for a young person right now to learn, as a second language, one of the languages spoken in the above named counties. Unfortunately because of this influx of illegal immigration and our government and some businesses catering to them young people are being told that Spanish is the language they need to learn.

    This is going to hurt us in the future. This is going to sound harsh but how many Spanish speaking countries really are working on cutting edge technology? Spanish is not going to be a dominant language in the international arena of science and technology. An arena that the U.S. currently leads in and must stay competitive in.

    English has become the de facto world language, or as I say it, English has become the world’s second language and yet we debase it here in the U.S.

  23. #123
    On August 20th, 2007 at 12:49 pm, PRCalDude said:

    This is going to hurt us in the future. This is going to sound harsh but how many Spanish speaking countries really are working on cutting edge technology? Spanish is not going to be a dominant language in the international arena of science and technology. An arena that the U.S. currently leads in and must stay competitive in.

    When they do go to college, they don’t study science and engineering. They study sociology, political science, or chicano studies. It’s all Caucasians and Asians in the scientific majors. I’ll go ahead and be harsh: they can’t compete academically. They’ll also just continue to blame whites and demand affirmative action as long as they’re here.

  24. #124
    On August 20th, 2007 at 12:50 pm, 24Klady said:

    The Border Patrol used to pick up illegals working the fields in Calif. and deport them via buses. By noon the next day they’d be back on the job. I’m betting Elvira is already back.

    Speaking of identity theft, there is an e-mail floating around that innocently asks you to fill in the blanks with your full name, where you were born, where you live now, what’s your favorite movie/food, etc.. Sounds fun, a way to know your friends better? When I didn’t send it back to the sender, she sent another one. The idiot doesn’t realize that with that information, $30 for a SSN trace, you could lose everything. Once an e-mail leaves your hands it’s around the world before dark. Not everyone deletes the previous sender and simply forwards on to everyone in their address book.

  25. #125
    On August 20th, 2007 at 12:50 pm, pressto said:

    I just listened to Laura and Geraldo and I can not believe how he will not answer any hard questions on this. I hope if you and him debate again you do not let him go off on tangents left and right like he always seems to do. I applaud Laura for calling him on doing this time and again and playing the poor victim card.

  26. #126
    On August 20th, 2007 at 12:53 pm, nbarry said:

    “Tell Me Why They Had To Die?” Because this is one political area where the globaloney of the globalizers and the anti-American smut of the loony left overlap and where the greedy business base of the Republicans and the equally greedy social services base of the Democrats have a common interest in ganging up on us law-abiding Americans. As for our two parties, the base comes first and the people last.

  27. #127
    On August 20th, 2007 at 12:59 pm, ajmontana said:

    jah, very excellent points!

  28. #128
    On August 20th, 2007 at 1:12 pm, feebiebabe said:

    Buh and Bye. Buh-Bye!

  29. #129
    On August 20th, 2007 at 1:15 pm, xler8bmw said:

    I just went to read the NYPost like always do @ lunch and they didn’t even report she was deported Nothing!

  30. #130
    On August 20th, 2007 at 1:16 pm, Lindsay said:

    This is what lack of border security and slow deportation are bringing to America:

    “The violence that has hit Mexican border towns is spreading deeper into the United States.”

    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-border19aug19,0,2502235.story?coll=la-home-center

    Deport them now!

  31. #131
    On August 20th, 2007 at 1:21 pm, puhiawa said:

    One big detainer does not equal the 12 million that need to be done.

  32. #132
    On August 20th, 2007 at 1:26 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Elvira? She’s not the Mistress of the Dark is she?

    This deportation is part of the Bush snow job. They have no intention of enforcing our borders, but are making an example of one high-profile person to try and attenuate the criticism over this issue.

  33. #133
    On August 20th, 2007 at 1:29 pm, swj719AWG said:

    I’ve been waiting for an Oak Ridge Boys joke for ages now…

  34. #134
    On August 20th, 2007 at 1:31 pm, citizen said:

    that’s one, keep ‘em going..,

  35. #135
    On August 20th, 2007 at 1:39 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    English has become the de facto world language, or as I say it, English has become the world’s second language and yet we debase it here in the U.S.

    Politicians pander for the latino vote and to attempt to keep them ignorant and divided,de-emphasise learning english.

    Businesses don’t care about the place of english language in the world of science and industry, only spanish to more easily communicate to and profit from the expanding latino base who prefer to use the language they came with rather than making the effort to learn and be proud of using the language of the nation that allowed them to take up residence here.

  36. #136
    On August 20th, 2007 at 1:42 pm, Bhishma said:

    On August 20th, 2007 at 11:22 am, jah said:

    As long as it’s happening to the “little people”, it doesn’t matter to him and those like him.

    Good point. As long as dubya and Teddy’s daughters are not raped, these are ‘poor people seeking a better life’ (killing and raping other Americans).

  37. #137
    On August 20th, 2007 at 1:44 pm, puhiawa said:

    The Border Patrol is no longer tasked with catching illegals. Funny. Why did Washington not tell us earlier of this change? It is time to impeach Bush.
    http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=18710877&BRD=2290&PAG=461&dept_id=569392&rfi=6

  38. #138
    On August 20th, 2007 at 1:46 pm, BrianG1979 said:

    Most American’s welcome LEGAL immigration.

    On August 20th, 2007 at 8:04 am, sausage said:Erm…Depends how far south you go in the country…. less so in the “throwing sticks at the moon” southern states.

    and you base this opinion on what?

  39. #139
    On August 20th, 2007 at 1:49 pm, xler8bmw said:

    #136 if you read Hotair.com it has the BP’s oath they take for protecting the border. Carlos must have forgotten his oath.

    http://www.hotair.com

  40. #140
    On August 20th, 2007 at 1:51 pm, jrlingreenbay said:

    Here in my corner of the world, there’s a case of a Police shooting that occurred several months ago. It happened during a traffic stop, and the driver exited the vehicle and made motions as if he had a weapon. He was shot and killed.

    Also injured in the shooting was an innocent bystander. This bystander has now made his intentions known that he may sue the police department & city for this action, citing negligence by the police.

    The story has been in and out of the news headlines…last week the notices of intent were filed, so it came up again. The TV news story I saw showed this bystander in his apartment home with his family, and spoke of how he hasn’t been able to work since the injury, and he worries about how he’ll support his family, etc….

    Now, as you’ve probably guessed by the placement of my story, the bystander is, in fact, an illegal immigrant.

    While I can see a purpose for filing claim against an accidental injury due to the actions of the police, regardless of his immigration status, the stories generated by this circumstance focus on his ‘inability to work’ and similar matters.

    In fact, the reality that he is an illegal immigrant were totally absent from the reporting until just recently.

    What part of ‘they’re not supposed to be here’ don’t people understand? He has no right to work here – he has no right to live here – he has no right to be here! And – if I can be so callous – if he wasn’t here, he wouldn’t have been caught up in all this.

    I’ve yet to see anyone looking into who hired him before – who rents to him – and what’s going to happen to him after all this is settled.

  41. #141
    On August 20th, 2007 at 1:52 pm, jah said:

    The Border Patrols mission is to keep the country safe from terrorist and terrorist weapons, he said. Carrillo added that when and if terrorists come into the country, the agents will be ready.

    How about those citizens terroized by illegals murdering, raping, etc. Since you have no way of telling which illegal is a violent criminal, here is a thought, turn them ALL back and round up the rest in this country!

    “I want a secure border, but I want more common sense,” Salinas said, adding that the fence would affect relations with Mexico.

    Know what, I don’t give a flying fig about what Mexico thinks, it is apparent they don’t care about relations with us or they would stop this. Good fences make good neighbors.

    Carrillo responded that the Border Patrol will look into the issue.

    code for you will never hear from us again!

    This ticks me off to no end!

  42. #142
    On August 20th, 2007 at 1:52 pm, Mr_Conservative_Cat said:

    The solution has been proven simple by this example as quoted in the report:

    “She had just spoken at rally Los Angeles rally when she was arrested Sunday outside Our Lady Queen of Angels church and deported,”

    We shouldn’t let alot of noise distract us and make the process unnecessarily complicated. Do the same thing thousands of times over, expanding the procedure to include picking up alien lawbreakers (my new term for them) marching at rallys, showing up for jobs that Americans would love to do and the rest of the list that any common-sense individual can compile for themselves.

    Ignore Geraldo and the rest. Ignore them. And get on with the business of making this a civilized, common-sense society held firm and productive by the sensitive yet not unduly over-emotional application of the rule of law.

    On a lighter note, as suggested in another post, LA once had a very different famous Elvira – the television horror movie hostess. In that context I think of the newer Elvira surrounded by the gargoyles of Notre Dame and I find that funny, somehow.

  43. #143
    On August 20th, 2007 at 1:55 pm, blacktygrrrr said:

    Perhaps we can do an exchange.

    For every illegal immigrant that comes here, we get to deport one blue state, illegal immigration-loving, liberal democrat.

    After all, blue staters are a bigger drain on society anyway. Illegal immigrants never tried to raise my taxes.

    http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/2007/06/16/our-other-border-problem/

    Respectfully,

    eric

  44. #144
    On August 20th, 2007 at 1:55 pm, xler8bmw said:

    #139 he also shouldn’t have the right to sue either. Courts should be for American Citizens not law breakers. The courts aren’t suppose to reward if in fact you come in with dirty hands.

  45. #145
    On August 20th, 2007 at 1:56 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    On August 20th, 2007 at 1:46 pm, BrianG1979 said:
    Most American’s welcome LEGAL immigration.

    Alas, I’m not even so sure about LEGAL immigration as there is evidence that there are muslim immigrants from “nations of interest” (i.e. problem countries)being allowed to come into the USA without doing ANY background checks.

    That phrase “fighting them there so we don’t have to fight them here” is becoming a very hollow statement.

  46. #146
    On August 20th, 2007 at 1:59 pm, Quiglag said:

    This quote just funny. “How dare they arrest this woman?”
    These people are just crazy. Somehow we should be upset that she is gone? One less person our tax money shouldn’t be going to. If 12 millions people would stand up to Mexico, maybe they can get their own country to change.

  47. #147
    On August 20th, 2007 at 2:14 pm, jferg49 said:

    Elvira can have her kid sent to her in TJ..I’ll even help pay for the airfare…this woman made a living by being an illegal alien…hiding in a church…and the church allows it….how is it that the catholic church is hiding these illegal aliens? why isn’t that the issue too? this lady is just a small part of the problem..deport her…forget her…move on to bigger issues, like muslim immigration…legal and illegal….unfortunately, if we do not stem the flow of this antiquated religion…my children will most likely see them rioting in the street within 25 years, in numbers too big to control…this religion is like a cancer, inhibiting free thought and freedom itself…I know it may sound crazy, but look at what’s going on in Europe (France espectially)…killings and riots…England is changing their very culture to “get along” with the muslims…I can only see one answer, don’t let them in…I can live without muslims in the U.S….but I can’t live with Sharia (sp?) law in the U.S…

  48. #148
    On August 20th, 2007 at 2:19 pm, ajmontana said:

    Soon, Mexico is going to need the help from the USA. Hurricane Dean is going to hammer them hard and we will help. It’s time well past for them to work with us to secure the border and stop illegal aliens from entering our country.

  49. #149
    On August 20th, 2007 at 2:26 pm, EdDantes said:

    On August 20th, 2007 at 1:59 pm, Quiglag said:
    This quote just funny. “How dare they arrest this woman?”
    These people are just crazy. Somehow we should be upset that she is gone? One less person our tax money shouldn’t be going to. If 12 millions people would stand up to Mexico, maybe they can get their own country to change.

    It’s funny on the surface. However, it speaks to the issue of entitlement that illegals and their supporters believe they have.

    These people actually believe they have a right to be here. The law says that they don’t, but sanctuary cities and policies say they do. Go figure.

    The current policy in the US is to hold Americans accountable for the law, but to not extend the same accountability to illegal aliens who are already criminals.

  50. #150
    On August 20th, 2007 at 2:26 pm, xler8bmw said:

    #147 if that happens then they will need illegals to clean up. Deport them back for the clean-up problem solved.

  51. #151
    On August 20th, 2007 at 2:32 pm, 24Klady said:

    ajmontana #47 – With the earthquake in Peru and Mexico soon to be hit from Dean, you can bet our illustrious leader will not let an opportunity pass without granting refugee status to how ever many that want to immigrate. Remember El Salvador? MS-13 ring a bell? We’re fixin’ to have a lot more to feed within the coming weeks.

  52. #152
    On August 20th, 2007 at 2:46 pm, Speakup said:

    Ya know, she not only refused to present herself for deportation hiding instead in a church but she also took flight across the country, doesn’t that makes her a fugitive.

    Isn’t that a felony?

  53. #153
    On August 20th, 2007 at 2:54 pm, ajmontana said:

    24k, have em put the refugee center next to Camp David.

  54. #154
    On August 20th, 2007 at 2:54 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    On August 20th, 2007 at 2:32 pm, 24Klady said:
    ajmontana #47 – With the earthquake in Peru and Mexico soon to be hit from Dean, you can bet our illustrious leader will not let an opportunity pass without granting refugee status to how ever many that want to immigrate. Remember El Salvador? MS-13 ring a bell? We’re fixin’ to have a lot more to feed within the coming weeks.

    No thanks to the marxists in the state department and liberal churches who sponsor third world refugees who the tax payers will have to support for years to come, and who will have little to contribute to the community for a generation.

    The communists couldn’t destroy the USA militarily but have a good shot at thanks to the above mentioned folks abetted by THE-USEFUL-IDIOT-IN-CHEIF (when it comes to immigration) in the White House.

  55. #155
    On August 20th, 2007 at 2:56 pm, swj719AWG said:

    On August 20th, 2007 at 2:19 pm, ajmontana said:
    Soon, Mexico is going to need the help from the USA. Hurricane Dean is going to hammer them hard and we will help. It’s time well past for them to work with us to secure the border and stop illegal aliens from entering our country.

    To assist in the rebuilding, how about we offer to send them, say, 12 million day-laborers?

  56. #156
    On August 20th, 2007 at 3:04 pm, ajmontana said:

    swj, works for me…

  57. #157
    On August 20th, 2007 at 3:09 pm, Kevin from Ohio in Virginia said:

    Hundreds gathered in Chicago Monday morning to protest the arrest and deportation of illegal immigrant and immigration activist Elvira Arellano.

    She was whisked away to Mexico Sunday after her arrest in Los Angeles. Now immigration activists say they’re fight is even stronger.

    In other news, CBS causes English teachers everywhere to cringe because they apparently don’t know the difference between “they’re” and “their.” No word as to whether the word “there” is also involved.

  58. #158
    On August 20th, 2007 at 3:15 pm, 24Klady said:

    aj #152 – I first thought of that little place in Crawford, TX. It’s already fenced with high tech security, ready to go. But, I love Texas so the alternative location for a refugee camp is Kennebunkport. Mums & Dads could baby sit the little ones and once retired as First Lady, Laura could help with a library. George II, once retired, can set to working with the locals on job training.

    hawkeye #153 – just stick a fork in us, we’re pretty well done. There is a very high number of refugees that have been here for 30 years or more that have never assimilated. What’s worse, they don’t intend to. The number of religious groups that bilk the Feds (err-meant to say taxpayers)for millions $$$ roaming the world looking for refugees to relocate here is sickening. America, what a country.

  59. #159
    On August 20th, 2007 at 3:17 pm, swj719AWG said:

    #156

    “In related news, Chicago has seen hundreds of arrests of illegal immigrants at an ill-advised pro-illegal immigration rally…”

  60. #160
    On August 20th, 2007 at 3:24 pm, ajmontana said:

    Now I know this guys gotta be on crack…
    “Additionally, we count on our local papers to bring a straight story to help make sense out of the rantings and ravings of blogging heads like Debbie Schussel, Michelle Malkin, and Roger L. Simon.”

    Newspapers? straight story? uh, yeah right.

  61. #161
    On August 20th, 2007 at 3:27 pm, reine.de.tout said:

    On August 20th, 2007 at 8:04 am, sausage said:

    Erm…Depends how far south you go in the country…. less so in the “throwing sticks at the moon” southern states.

    And which Southern state do you live in where you have observed this behavior?

  62. #162
    On August 20th, 2007 at 3:28 pm, The Raging Republican said:

    Here is a question for ya….. If churches can get away with giving sanctuary to illegals, then what will a mosque be able to get away with when it comes to harboring terrorists? Its a very dangerous precedent here.

  63. #163
    On August 20th, 2007 at 3:39 pm, 24Klady said:

    Raging R – I doubt you will ever see police raid a mosque for the same reason you didn’t see them raid the Catholic church in Chicago. Any religion that condones this behavior should be investigated under the RICO act. In lieu of that, tax exempt status should be reviewed. It was my understanding it has never been legal in the U.S. to give sanctuary to criminals. Was I wrong!

  64. #164
    On August 20th, 2007 at 3:50 pm, SirGregor said:

    So when will they get around to arresting Rev. Walter Coleman?

  65. #165
    On August 20th, 2007 at 3:55 pm, swj719AWG said:

    On August 20th, 2007 at 3:50 pm, SirGregor said:
    So when will they get around to arresting Rev. Walter Coleman?

    LMAO

    Never. It’s Chicago.

  66. #166
    On August 20th, 2007 at 4:01 pm, 24Klady said:

    SirGregor #163 – retraction on my comments in #162 – it was not a Catholic Church in Chicago, it was a United Methodist. She was arrested outside a Catholic Church in L.A.. Yea, Walter Coleman (aka: Slim Coleman if the stories are true) has quite the past and should be arrested IMHO. But, they won’t.

  67. #167
    On August 20th, 2007 at 4:02 pm, xler8bmw said:

    #162 No you weren’t wrong it is against the law in this country to provide sanctuary in a church.

  68. #168
    On August 20th, 2007 at 4:16 pm, jrlingreenbay said:

    Did anyone else catch the false statement by the CBS Update quoted by Michelle:

    “They support the 32-year-old woman who admittedly re-entered the country illegally to be with her son. Eight-year-old Saul Arellano is a U.S. citizen.”

    She did not re-enter the country to be with her son.

    She re-entered the country in 1997 within days of her deportation. Her son was born in 1999.

    Is this wording a ploy to tug at the heartstrings?

    Whatever the motivation – they have it wrong….

  69. #169
    On August 20th, 2007 at 4:19 pm, The Raging Republican said:

    SirGregor #163 – retraction on my comments in #162 – it was not a Catholic Church in Chicago, it was a United Methodist

    The United Methodist Church is very outspoken that all illegals should be given amnesty no questions asked. Go to their website and read some of their doctrines. It will make you sick to see their stances on illegals, universal health care, abortion, gays, etc.

    And oh by the way…… Hillary Clinton is a United Methodist….. once you read some of their doctrines, you will realize where she gets some of her wacked out world views (Straight from her “Religious” principles). Makes we wonder who she is “praying to”!

  70. #170
    On August 20th, 2007 at 4:27 pm, swj719AWG said:

    Makes we wonder who she is “praying to”!

    I suspect it’s Riki-Tiki Fastpaws, god of racoons…

    And bonus points for anyone who gets the reference…

  71. #171
    On August 20th, 2007 at 4:30 pm, jrlingreenbay said:

    Wasn’t Riki-Tiki-Tavi a Mongoose?

  72. #172
    On August 20th, 2007 at 4:47 pm, swj719AWG said:

    Did I say riki-tiki tavi? :)

    I doubt any in this group is deeply submersed enough in geekdom to get the reference…

  73. #173
    On August 20th, 2007 at 4:48 pm, puhiawa said:

    On August 20th, 2007 at 3:28 pm, The Raging Republican said:

    Here is a question for ya….. If churches can get away with giving sanctuary to illegals, then what will a mosque be able to get away with when it comes to harboring terrorists? Its a very dangerous precedent here.

    Mosques throughout America are associated with trade in illegals, tax and ID fraud, and fake marriages for immigration services. Another little secret the FBI would prefer us not to know for our own good, of course. Dee Schlussel if you want updates.

  74. #174
    On August 20th, 2007 at 5:05 pm, 24Klady said:

    Raging R. #168, I was trying to be PC and multi-culturally, warm and fuzzy, about the Hillary connection. Shaking head about which deity she…never mind. I know the answer.

    Puhiawa #172, since mosques are funded by the Saudis, guess they are off limits for investigations. Shaking head again.

  75. #175
    On August 20th, 2007 at 5:31 pm, ajmontana said:

    Whoa, things got a tad onry on Gibby’s show about this.

  76. #176
    On August 20th, 2007 at 5:52 pm, swj719AWG said:

    oh? do tell…

  77. #177
    On August 20th, 2007 at 6:00 pm, doingwhatican said:

    So, now every illegal alien who is caught and refuses to leave peacefully is now an “activist”? Why isn’t this repeat-offending “criminal alien” in jail where she belongs?

    She shows her allegiance to Mexico by referring to it as “my country”. She’ll be back soon enough.

  78. #178
    On August 20th, 2007 at 6:26 pm, 24Klady said:

    aj, I watched the dustup with Gibson. Mercy, he took a page out of O’Reilly. Used to see him years ago when he was in Calif…didn’t know he could debate with such force. Ha!

    Seriously, the nutjob he had on is like every other that wants open borders. We should hang our head in shame for wanting to preserve our borders, our environment and our financial stability.

  79. #179
    On August 20th, 2007 at 6:35 pm, old7 said:

    At the risk of sounding totally unfeeling……I agree that the mother and son should remain together , in Mexico. As far as I’m concerned , he is the son of an illegal which should make him illegal also. Not his fault but that’s not the point. Our mill towns here in the south are over run with illegals and it must stop. May God take care and watch over them, in their own country.

  80. #180
    On August 20th, 2007 at 6:36 pm, ajmontana said:

    swj, heres a link… right hand side click on gibby vs illegal imm. activist.
    http://www.foxnews.com/bigstory/index.html

  81. #181
    On August 20th, 2007 at 6:37 pm, ajmontana said:

    I hear ya old#7 the son should be with her…in Mexico.

  82. #182
    On August 20th, 2007 at 6:37 pm, graysonret said:

    It will be night soon at the border….bet she’s crossing back over, if she hasn’t already.

  83. #183
    On August 20th, 2007 at 6:38 pm, ajmontana said:

    24k yeah, gibby did great with the blowhole.

  84. #184
    On August 20th, 2007 at 6:43 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    And now if the Administration were really serious (which I doubt) we would soon see an employer arrested…

  85. #185
    On August 20th, 2007 at 7:32 pm, Alphonse said:

    I’ve been told that illegal aliens use ICE for a free ride when they want to return to Mexico for a visit.

    Ugh, Lehrer News Hour this very minute presenting agitprop on illegal labor shortages for farmers.

  86. #186
    On August 20th, 2007 at 7:55 pm, jeanie said:

    It is LA so Latino sentiment runs high anyway so it’s not indicative of much. But, they’ve been allowed to get away with it for so long they regard it as a right when it ought to be a privilege. I wonder if she’d ever thought of applying for citizensip? Now how far fetched is that???? I thought if one had an “anchor baby” that it was easier. Not so?

  87. #187
    On August 20th, 2007 at 8:29 pm, xblade said:

    Wow, can’t believe what I just heard. Kristen Powers, who I used to respect, even though she is a dem, just stated on The O’reilly Factor that coming to this country illegally and committing social security fraud is, now, get this, a basic human right!

    You have got to be kidding me. If the libs ever get back in power, this country is so screwed.

  88. #188
    On August 20th, 2007 at 8:34 pm, The Raging Republican said:

    As far as I’m concerned , he is the son of an illegal which should make him illegal also.

    That is exactly right. We have come to the point where the whole ‘if you are born in the US you are a citizen’ thing needs to be altered. Like maybe your parent who gave birth to you here needs to be a citizen first also. Sad, but true.

  89. #189
    On August 20th, 2007 at 8:43 pm, limmo said:

    Some questions…

    1- If she was in the church for a year, where and when did she work? Did she leave the church to go to work, then come back at night. If she wasn’t working, how was she supporting herself and her kid? Was the congregation supporting them? Where’s her husband?

    2- If she was first deported in 1997, and it’s now 2007, and her 8 year old is an American citizen, doesn’t that mean he was born after she was initially deported. Why should the child of a illegal deported once who returned again, after being deported, be able to give birth to an American citizen two years after the first deportation?

    3- If she doesn’t want to be separated from her child, why doesn’t she just take him with her back to Mexico? Doesn’t Mexico routinely offer dual citizenship to children born under these circumstances?

  90. #190
    On August 20th, 2007 at 8:46 pm, ajmontana said:

    My wife (with child) and I are in vacation in Cancun..Hurricane Dean sends her into labor on the beach….she delivers….is our baby Mexican? American? or Cancunian?
    Why is it America has this policy of of “anchor babies”?? it needs to be changed, ASAP

  91. #191
    On August 20th, 2007 at 9:13 pm, limmo said:

    Good questions ajmontana. Some others-

    If I sneak into Japan in violation of their laws and take my children too, will the Japanese Government furnish them with FREE education and health care…taught and administered in English? Would they be entitled to enter college in Japan under the same terms and conditions as Japanese citizens, and pay the same tuition rates? Would I be able to work there?

    Is it still true that Americans can’t buy land in Mexico but must least it for 99 years? Isn’t Mexico currently deporting en masse Central and South American ‘undocumented workers’ they say entered illegally through Oaxaca?

    If I got arrested in Germany for DUI, couldn’t speak German and couldn’t produce ID, would they just let me go free? Would they let me ‘promise’ to show up for court in a couple of months? If they did and I didn’t show up, would they just ignore me from then on out? If so, how many times could I be arrested for DUI before they stopped letting me go? Three? Five?

    If someone who had not gone through proper channels to enter France, had violated French law, was arrested for molesting, raping and sodomizing a 6 year old there, would the French let them go on bond? If that same person was then arrested for a second crime while awaiting trial on the first, would the French keep fail to increase the bond and let them go again?

    If I wanted to immigrate to Australia, could I just go whether they wanted me or not and stay forever without being deported?

  92. #192
    On August 20th, 2007 at 9:15 pm, DesertLover said:

    189 … she has to leave the boy behind so she can try to use his still being in the USA as her leverage to get back … if she had taken him with her her bogus family separation claims fall totally apart …

  93. #193
    On August 20th, 2007 at 9:21 pm, ajmontana said:

    Geez, Almost anyone can come to the US legally at least have the courtesy to do so,….then walk all over us….
    Sorry someone put a smartazs pill in my java this morning.

  94. #194
    On August 20th, 2007 at 9:24 pm, Useful Idiot said:

    This is a huge ruse designed to make the MSM whine and moan about the inhumanity of it all. Geraldo can lose his mind over it, and have a meltdown on TV. Then some in gov’t can say that it was those nasty evil conservatives that made them deport that poor helpless woman and her dear sweet child. Meanwhile, the pedophiles, drunken drivers, MS 13ers, murderers, and potential ‘sploders get cover because of the hysteria over the INS splitting up families. Way to go, INS, freaking brilliant.

  95. #195
    On August 20th, 2007 at 10:12 pm, nbarry said:

    The INS doesn’t exist anymore. It’s now Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). The ICE website is an extended exercise in chest-thumping puffery to hide the paucity of their accomplishments.

  96. #196
    On August 20th, 2007 at 10:28 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Isn’t it illegal to abandon your 8 year old? If she sneaks back, can’t we seriously put her in jail for that?

  97. #197
    On August 20th, 2007 at 10:57 pm, almeehan said:

    It seems to me the ones clamoring for justice to bring her to the USA to join her son were the same ones justifying ripping Elian Gonzalez from the US to force him to go to his father’s rightful & legal home. Double standard? Not with the left.

  98. #198
    On August 20th, 2007 at 10:59 pm, Bear said:

    If she is not already back in the US, I wish that when (not if ) she does illegally enter it is in the Arizona county where the Sheriff has accomaditons in the tents for her.

  99. #199
    On August 20th, 2007 at 11:42 pm, 24Klady said:

    Bear #198 – Sheriff Arpaio of Maricopa County, AZ in my estimation should be on a poster in every classroom as an all American hero. If he ran for president I’d probably vote for him. He’s a quick study, bet he’d learn international diplomacy faster than a sprint across the border.

    On that note……lights out for me. Good night, y’all.

  100. #200
    On August 20th, 2007 at 11:44 pm, Pat said:

    Here are Elvira’s own words on her motives, if this is true:

    We have supported self-determination and opposed assimilation into this nation’s individualistic, imperialistic values. We have taught that our people did not come here because of the American Dream but because of what the American nightmare did to our countries of origin. We have asserted that our demand to be here and to be fully enfranchised here is a right not a privilige and a destiny of our people to transform this nation.

    She is not a Mom; she is a reconquista!

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