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Did the Newark murder suspects benefit from illegal alien amnesty programs?

By Michelle Malkin  •  August 23, 2007 05:25 AM

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How did he get here? How did he stay?

If you have been following the media coverage of the criminal alien suspects in the Newark execution murders, one thing may have jumped out at you. No, not Geraldo Rivera’s lying hysterics. I’m talking about the ambiguity and confusion surrounding the exact immigration status of two of the suspects. Time to move beyond the obvious debate about sanctuary cities and dig a little deeper.

Let’s start with Melvin Jovel. He’s the 18-year-old immigrant from Honduras who was the last of the murder suspects arrested in the case. As I noted on Tuesday, Jovel appeared in court this week and provided the following information:

The sixth suspect arrested in the Newark schoolyard shootings pleaded not guilty to murder and robbery charges this morning during a brief appearance in Essex County Superior Court in Newark.

Melvin Jovel, 18, who appeared in a long-sleeve white shirt and tan slacks, spoke softly as he answered a series of questions from the judge. At the end of the hearing, he was sent back to the Essex County Jail, where he is being held in protective custody on $2 million bail.

Jovel, who is from Honduras, told the judge he does not have a Social Security number or a green card, but his immigration status remains unclear, prosecutors said. A U.S. passport was found among his belongings when he was arrested Sunday night, but officials are still trying to determine whether the passport is valid, Assistant Essex County Prosecutor Thomas A. McTigue said. Federal authorities have placed a detainer on Jovel because his status is uncertain, McTigue said.

Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials participated in Jovel’s arrest, and a spokesman for the agency said it becomes involved “when they suspect a person is in the county illegally.”

But the spokesman, Michael W. Gilhooley, declined to comment today on whether officials had determined Jovel’s status.

No Social Security number. No green card. A US passport of uncertain validity. But they can’t figure out his immigration status. So, what could be going on here? Let’s step back a moment. You may recall that in January 2005, I criticized the Bush administration’s decision to extend a mass amnesty program called the “Temporary Protected Status” program. President Bush renewed the temporary work and residence permits of 248,282 illegal aliens from El Salvador under TPS and justified the renewal in 2005 because El Salvador was still rebuilding after earthquakes that struck the country in January 2001. As I explained at the time:

Ostensibly, the TPS program is supposed to allow people from countries experiencing a natural disaster or civil war to come to the U.S. temporarily. Most of the Salvadorans granted TPS status, however, were already living in the U.S. illegally before the earthquake struck. In effect, the TPS designation is amnesty by another name. There is nothing temporary about it. As the Federation for American Immigration Reform noted when the the decision to grant TPS status was announced back in 2001, “based on the track record of TPS authorizations, it is certain that it will be anything but temporary.”

In addition to El Salvador, the US has granted TPS to tens of thousands from several other countries, including Melvin Jovel’s native Honduras and Nicaragua (the home country of two of the other Newark execution murder suspects, Rodolfo Godinez and his half-brother, Alexander Alfaro (who will appear in court today in Virginia, where he is expected to waive extradition to New Jersey). TPS Backgrounder here.

The reporting and on-the-record remarks from ICE make it seem as though determining Jovel’s immigration status is a complicated matter. But here’s a simple question: Did Jovel or a parent/guardian file an I-821 application form for TPS or not? Was it approved or not? If so, when?

According to this NYT article, Jovel took a trip back to Honduras about two years ago and returned to the US. Under the TPS program, special permission must be granted to leave the US:

An individual granted TPS must remain continuously physically present in the United States. The grant of TPS status does not mean that you have permission to travel abroad, though permission to travel may be granted by the district director according to the Service’s advance parole provisions. There is no appeal to a denial of advance parole. Failure to obtain advance parole prior to traveling abroad may result in the withdrawal of your TPS and/or the institution or re-calendaring of removal proceedings.

If Jovel had TPS, did he receive permission to go back to Honduras or did he violate the program rules? How was he then allowed back into the US if in fact he violated the terms of his TPS designation? Had deportation/removal proceedings been instituted against him or not?

Now, let’s look at Rodolfo Godinez.

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How did he get here? How did he stay?

Recall the Newark Star -Ledger’s report:

Rodolfo Antonio Godinez Gomez entered the U.S. from Nicaragua on Oct. 24, 1992. He was ordered deported on May 5, 1993, but it isn’t clear if he ever left the country, according to Essex County Sheriff Armando Fontura. “It seems to me that he was illegal,” he said.

The Star-Ledger also reported:

He arrived in the country in 1992 and obtained permanent legal residency in 2001.

He had eluded cops for four years after becoming a fugitive on July 7, 2003, when he ditched a Superior Court hearing on charges that he robbed and attacked three people in Irvington a year earlier.

TPS for Nicaraguans was first extended in 1998 and most recently extended again this spring for another 18 months to January 5, 2009. An alien with TPS can apply for permanent legal residency or other immigration benefits. Godinez arrived six years before there was a TPS for Nicaraguans. But immigration courts have allowed illegal aliens to claim the status long after its initial institution and fraud is rampant. Again, a simple question is: Did Godinez file an I-821 application form for TPS or not? Was it approved or not? If so, when?

If not, it is possible Godinez benefited from a different amnesty program for Nicaraguans and others. Eleven years after the massive Reagan-era illegal alien amnesty that was supposed to be a one-time deal, Congress passed a new rolling amnesty in 1997 as part of the Nicaraguan and Central American Relief Acts (NACARA). Nicaraguans who had lived in the US illegally since 1995, along with their spouses and unmarried children, were automatically granted legal resident status under NACARA, as long as they applied by April 1, 2000. Whether Godinez entered the country legally or illegally in 1992, he may have still been eligible for NACARA benefits despite the deportation order he apparently received in 1992.

Again, a simple question: Did Godinez and/or his parents/guardians apply for NACARA benefits or not? The same set of questions applies to Alfaro.

And a follow-up: Who in Congress will act to ensure that TPS and NACARA benefits are not handed out like Pez candy to criminal aliens, gang members, fraudsters, and deportation evaders?

Yesterday, I received the following e-mail from a reader:

Michelle,

I am an employee of ICE and have firsthand knowledge of the murders in Newark, NJ…In the case of the murders, most of these individuals and there families were either unlawfully present in the United States at time of arrest or had been unlawfully present at one time and then…given Temporary Protected Status or TPS to remain LEGALLY in the US until they commit AND are CONVICTED of either 1 FELONY or two MISDEMEANORS. Do you see something wrong with this picture?

[A]n illegal alien, i.e., a suspected violent MS-13 street gang member, can commit crimes all he/she wants and never get deported [with] TPS because a CONVICTION is needed to strip the TPS. By the way, TPS affects El Salvador, Honduras [and] Nicaragua. The most popular countries for MS-13 members to be from (other than the US) are those three countries. Also 18th Street gang members are also from that area. Additionally, TPS has just been extended until 2009 by the current US Administration…

…By having TPS, these individuals are untouchable and it is something they can obtain while here at the time of apprehension. I have seen instances where illegal alien street gang members have been left completely alone to prosper because they “CAN GET TPS.”

Bottom line: Poor bail and bond systems in the US state/federal courts, liberal immigration courts & immigration court precedent and political appeasement cause many of the illegal criminal aliens to be released to the street over and over and over again.

Thanks for hearing me out,
Concerned ICE employee

I am contacting ICE directly today to try and nail down the status and immigration history of Jovel, Godinez, and Alfaro, but wouldn’t it be helpful if the big media outlets that have been covering this story did the same?

Will the MSM start asking the questions it should be asking? Or are these policy matters all “irrelevant details” too?

The victims’ families deserve answers, not obfuscation. Not evasion. Not condescension. Not ignorant cable TV news screaming.

Answers. Then action.

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  1. #1
    On August 23rd, 2007 at 6:27 am, changjin89 said:

    Good Morning Mrs. Malkin. I trust that your loyal community will be up and with you soon. You must well know by this point in your unique career that our country is well-seeded with humble, unsung patriots, doing their daily duty to God and country, with apparently only yourself as public recourse when they see egregious wrong-doing. Hence the ICE employee, above. As for the USA “main-stream media” and relevance: I for one have no positive expectations for what they will do or do not do, owing to their fundamental philosophical and cultural orientation.

    Best wishes for a productive Wednesday.

  2. #2
    On August 23rd, 2007 at 6:30 am, DesertLover said:

    Morning Michelle … I hope you are able to get to the bottom of how and why these folks were still in the country … TPS may have had a humanitarian purpose but, as with all government programs, has been abused and not properly overseen.

    Here are 3 links that I think you and Rick Moran and all my fellow commenters on your site will find worth reading and viewing.

    The first 2 are short reads and use GAO and other reports to reveal that illegal aliens are killing more than 10 times the number of Americans than the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan combined. (Some good GR ammunition in these.)

    The 3rd one is a very simple you tube video that personalizes with pictures many of the people killed by criminal illegal aliens … who was killed … where they were killed … how they were killed … and by whom …

    Would it be possible for you to put up a permanent list of the names of the victims of criminal illegal aliens and keep it updated with future names …

    1. Posted by Jim Brown, February 22, 2007

    http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007/02/more_americans_killed_by_illeg.php

    2. Posted by Alan Stang, July 27, 2007

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2007/270707Statistics.htm

    3. You tube video

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpomTIkv0V8

    WARNING … Kleenex Alert on the video

    Have a great day all …

  3. #3
    On August 23rd, 2007 at 6:36 am, ajmontana said:

    The TPS program is just one more example of why shamesty wouldnt have worked. To many items to keep track of and no-one in Government enforcing and monitoring the situation correctly. This is disgusting.

  4. #4
    On August 23rd, 2007 at 6:37 am, ajmontana said:

    and Good Morning…..

  5. #5
    On August 23rd, 2007 at 6:42 am, DesertLover said:

    ajmontana

    Morning … I am getting my posts in early … finally heading home today from this 4 week assignment … so will be out of pocket much of the day … hope you have a great day …

  6. #6
    On August 23rd, 2007 at 6:57 am, Lindsay said:

    The email from the ICE employee explains a lot regarding the TPS problem. This “protection” of illegals needs to be eliminated.

    Legal citizens need protection, not members of MS-13.

    Where is our PPS or Permanent Protection Status?

  7. #7
    On August 23rd, 2007 at 7:00 am, ajmontana said:

    dl, good deal, hope your mission is somewhere out of this 112* heat. I’ll check you’re links above when my other eye opens… :)

  8. #8
    On August 23rd, 2007 at 7:24 am, gayle said:

    48,000 killed by illegals, THAT we KNOW about, since 9/11?

    A small town’s size/population it seems.

    This madness has to STOP. I know for a fact that our local “law enforcement” turns a blind eye to the problem.

    The terrorists are here, living in our backyards, not just in Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, etc., HERE.

  9. #9
    On August 23rd, 2007 at 7:57 am, gayle said:

    Having trouble getting online to this site.

    Anyone else?

  10. #10
    On August 23rd, 2007 at 8:01 am, ajmontana said:

    Not so far…

  11. #11
    On August 23rd, 2007 at 8:08 am, tgillian said:

    The more light that is shed upon the lawmaking practices of Congress, the more incompetent (or worse) they prove themselves to be. When asked if he read the Immigration Reform Bill before voting, the esteemed Senator Voinovich, R-OH, (who voted for cloture before voting against cloture) admitted to only reading the briefs provided by those who wrote the bill in secret. Heck, the bill had more pages than Invasion, by Ms. Malkin.
    If we do not insist on Congress only writing “clean” bills, we are going to have these kinds of Laws shoved down our throats. Who thinks that within 5 years we will not have all of the provisions of this failed legislation piecemealed and hidden in other legislation - and passed?
    Hot Air is doing an excellent job of providing a Primer on the Qur’an. Can we get someone to do the same for the currently-defeated Immigration Reform Bill? Let’s bring to light all of the buried, dirty little secrets hidden within the Bill so we can help educate the Senate and House before they piecemeal it and feed it to us slowly.
    We worked too hard, wrote too many letters, sent too many emails and made too many phone calls to end up as fools; winning the battle, but losing the war.

  12. #12
    On August 23rd, 2007 at 8:39 am, almeehan said:

    Michelle I thought you said you weren’t a morning person! 5:25am post!!?? And # 1 Wednesday’s past today is Thursday so pour another cup of coffee.

    Thanks to you Michelle, the NJ AG has “seen the light” so to speak. But as you’ve said it’s too late for these families. A lot of water has broken through the dike and it seems to be mostly sewage. So we need to clean it up, not only patch the dike but make one that won’t leak or break again. Now if we can only enforce what is obviously enforcable. The naysayers said no but suddenly we are seeing action. Tells you what kind of shallow creatures the ones who tried to push it down our throats are. Have a good THURSDAY.

  13. #13
    On August 23rd, 2007 at 8:50 am, DesertLover said:

    aj … ok … I think you will find those links informative … really supplements with GAO and other reports everything Michelle is trying to make people understand … and the video puts a more personal level on the story than just names in the news media …

  14. #14
    On August 23rd, 2007 at 8:53 am, Regulus said:

    There are times, Michelle, when I really get confused perusing your blog.

    On the one hand, I always enjoy your combination of investigative talent, relentless pursuit of the truth, finding and paying attention to details that I’ll never, ever get from either “mainstream” journos or the government, your obvious passion for your work, your genuine concern for the welfare and security of this great country of ours, and - not least importantly - your ability to somehow maintain a sense of humor.

    It’s all of the above that make yours the first of my daily blog rounds, each day.

    On the other hand, while I’m reading some of your postings - and this one is a perfect example - I end up feeling like a scene that Bruce Willis described in an episode of his old series, “Moonlighting” when he found himself in jail:

    “I had this horrible dream that I was visiting a zoo; only I was the one in the cage, and the animals were out there.”

    It’s fast reaching a point in many places in this country where the American people feel like they practically need cages for protection from the imported, two-legged predatory animals roaming freely in the streets.

    For the politicians who run the zoo seem for the most part more concerned about the animals’ well-being than the patrons of the zoo; and the zookeepers with the means to control the animals can only wait around helplessly until the animals attack.

    Even then, much of the time they can’t do much more than issue the animals a summons - which the animals predictably ignore while they set about stalking their next victims.

    This country is becoming a zoo. There’s something seriously wrong with this picture.

  15. #15
    On August 23rd, 2007 at 9:04 am, xler8bmw said:
  16. #16
    On August 23rd, 2007 at 9:15 am, JWS said:

    On August 23rd, 2007 at 8:53 am, Regulus said:

    “…This country is becoming a zoo. There’s something seriously wrong with this picture…”

    There is. The real shame is that the solutions are so obvious and easy, but our politicians and our Liberal enemy - yes, Liberals are an enemy to America - fight those solutions tooth and nail…

  17. #17
    On August 23rd, 2007 at 9:30 am, gayle said:

    There is so much going on behind the scenes regarding our politicians that we won’t know about until it’s a done deal.

    The blatant disregard for their constituents and their “OATH” to serve their public (CITIZENS) is downright treasonous in MHO.

    It is soooo frustrating to not know what to do, when to do it, or even where to begin.

  18. #18
    On August 23rd, 2007 at 9:54 am, ajmontana said:

    Gayle,
    Having the internet has brought the new sheriff to town, now almost everything they do is being more scrutinized and the “behind closed doors” shamalamadingdong bill items wont get past MM/and the public. All this exposer has really benefited us because every time the Dems have spoken lately Americans are waking up and realizing their full of “bullcrap”

  19. #19
    On August 23rd, 2007 at 9:59 am, orlandocajun said:

    They can’t hide behind the MSM anymore. O’Reilly has been hammering the sanctuary cities and politicians almost every night and Michelle is informing the Blogshere. Their own constituents probably don’t even know what’s going on in those cities. The cat is being released from the bag. The dirty bastards are being exposed for the traitors they are. It’s fun watching them squirm.

  20. #20
    On August 23rd, 2007 at 10:03 am, PokerGuy said:

    There is a sorry history of various fair-sounding immigrant programs being implemented (or attempted) without the infrastructure necessary to ensure they do not turn into “unintended” permanent amnesty for illegals. If one tends toward skepticism regarding the political class and drooling PC worshippers, one might even believe such was the original intent.

  21. #21
    On August 23rd, 2007 at 10:09 am, gayle said:

    There are still a large population out there that are not informed….don’t read papers, view liberal media bias, etc.

    I have told so many people the real truth and they look at me with eyes crossed, as if I am exaggerating!

    VERY FRUSTRATING! I even keep my own adult kids in the know. They too get that liberal spin at their respective colleges.

    I want to know what I can do locally - in a town that is in denial. Our law enforcement is a JOKE and I mean the most they do is sit in dark alleys drinking coffee. MOST of them are notorious for being lazy and unethical….if you catch my drift.

  22. #22
    On August 23rd, 2007 at 10:13 am, xler8bmw said:

    I hate to even bring this up but, by the very nature of what is going on at the border and this “Invasion” I believe Bush could be impeached for violating his oath of office to protect the nation against “Invasion”. I don’t believe “Invasion” means by another nations militia. I may be wrong but, we are clearly be “Invaded” by somewhat of a militia MS-13.

  23. #23
    On August 23rd, 2007 at 10:16 am, dfern said:

    Very simple…..

    “…..Your papers are not in order…..”

  24. #24
    On August 23rd, 2007 at 10:29 am, Schweggie said:

    aj and orlandocajun, I agree 100%, this is in the people’s hands now. And I actually take some comfort in that. If we get support from any of our 2008 prez candidates, super, but that’s not where we should be placing our trust. Washington is changing their tune as we speak, and will continue to change their tune. Patton Malkin is still just getting started if you can believe that…the open borders and amnesty crowds are going to be swept away in the upcoming tidal wave…
    So long as we keep up the intensity, keep our eyes on the ball, we should be able to nail this issue down. And to think about how many terrorist plots will be disrupted, how many would be participants in plots deported…

  25. #25
    On August 23rd, 2007 at 10:30 am, changjin89 said:

    Thursday Morning Greetings to Mrs. Malkin and loyal community. Thanks to almeehan and a cup of green tea. Wish also to endorse Regulus’s excellent portrait of inverted zoo relations. Is it possible, however, that this community is at “ground zero” of a popular patriotic movement to set things right? It may be that the defeat of “shamnesty” will prove to be a harbinger of things to come, rather as here in California Proposition 13 in 1978 may have foretold the USA’s “Reagan Revolution” of the 1980s.

  26. #26
    On August 23rd, 2007 at 10:41 am, Schweggie said:

    changjin89 said:
    Is it possible, however, that this community is at “ground zero” of a popular patriotic movement to set things right?

    Spot on mate, spot on! Kam sa hamnida!

  27. #27
    On August 23rd, 2007 at 10:49 am, changjin89 said:

    Ne chingunim, ahnnyunghee gyeseyo!

  28. #28
    On August 23rd, 2007 at 11:01 am, geminicontender said:

    Of course these are irrelevant details Michelle. Just ask Geraldo.

  29. #29
    On August 23rd, 2007 at 11:09 am, Brian72 said:

    On August 23rd, 2007 at 10:41 am, Schweggie said:

    On August 23rd, 2007 at 10:49 am, changjin89 said:

    Where do I press “one” for english?

  30. #30
    On August 23rd, 2007 at 11:28 am, Brian72 said:

    There is a pretty good documentary series on National Geographic Channel called “Lockdown”, where they go into prisons around the country and show the gang warfare that’s constantly going on.

    The one I watched was Salinas Valley State Prison in California, and it was contradictory to the claims of Geraldo El Mustachio and others that illegals commit less crime than the population. The gangs were divided along racial lines, with the Aryan Brotherhood were all the white inmates, the Blacks had the black gangs that are rivals on the street teaming up inside. The hispanics are so numerous that they can afford to be split into the Northern Mexicans and Southern Mexicans.

    While the filming was happening, there was a conflict between the Aryans and the Southern Mexicans, each retaliating for violent attacks on the other. The Blacks and Northern Mexicans were staying out of it.

    The relevant point being in this prison, the Northern and Southern Mexicans outnumber the Blacks and Aryans combined, by a large margin. Our prisons are overflowing with MS-13, 18th street gang and many others. How many of these guys are illegal? The documentary did not address that. I would like to know. I bet the State of California does not want to know the answer to that question. What do you think?

  31. #31
    On August 23rd, 2007 at 11:47 am, radio relay said:

    When our government aides and abets the criminals, then it’s time for “We the People” to take advantage of the 2cd Amendment, and arm ourselves.

    I live in a town with many illegals, and gangs. I have a CCW, and I carry a 9mm always.

    I’m all for “live and let live”. I welcome legal immigrants. I don’t even have a big problem with law abiding illegals with jobs (although, I’m not real crazy about them, either).

    However, If any of these alien criminal thugs ever try to execute me, I can guarantee there will be one or more alien criminal thugs that WILL be deported in a plywood box!!!

    If our government will not protect us, then we must protect ourselves!

  32. #32
    On August 23rd, 2007 at 11:49 am, hawkeye54 said:

    The terrorists are here, living in our backyards, not just in Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, etc., HERE.

    And more are coming. Listening to Laura Ingraham this morning, she referred to the head of the head of our security/intelligence who admitted that the number of Iraqis illegally seeking assylum crossing our southern border has tripled in the last few years with no letup in sight. No surprise there.

    Along with the sanctuary cities protecting members of gangs like M-13 potential middle east terrorists crossing the border, jihaidi islamists converting our prison population, and islaminc jihaidi training camps social clubs operating in secluded areas in the states, trouble is brewing from domestic terror now and probably will be exploding (literally) all too soon, thanks to the blind eye of media and the abetting leadership in sanctuary cities and the White House.

  33. #33
    On August 23rd, 2007 at 12:22 pm, puhiawa said:

    The delusions of Bush and his Democratic friends are destroying America.

  34. #34
    On August 23rd, 2007 at 12:29 pm, heroyalwhyness said:

    Ditto what tgillian said at 8:08 am, #11

  35. #35
    On August 23rd, 2007 at 12:59 pm, Laree said:

    Michelle,

    Was there a lobbying group for the TPS? I mean what was the impetus?

    I watched Geraldo vs Tancredo on Hannity & Colmes, about this very subject, he keeps trying to change the subject. That is telling to me, he is lawyer and can’t argue from a position of strength. Then why does he keep it up?

    This isn’t a compassion issue, no matter how many times the liberals try to portray it as one. The only objective I can figure out on the part of Dems is to grow the underclass, to keep-build somekind of voting base?

  36. #36
    On August 23rd, 2007 at 1:00 pm, Boomer said:

    On August 23rd, 2007 at 11:47 am, radio relay said:
    When our government aides and abets the criminals, then it’s time for “We the People” to take advantage of the 2cd Amendment, and arm ourselves.
    I live in a town with many illegals, and gangs. I have a CCW, and I carry a 9mm always.
    I’m all for “live and let live”. I welcome legal immigrants. I don’t even have a big problem with law abiding illegals with jobs (although, I’m not real crazy about them, either).
    However, If any of these alien criminal thugs ever try to execute me, I can guarantee there will be one or more alien criminal thugs that WILL be deported in a plywood box!!!
    If our government will not protect us, then we must protect ourselves!

    Radio Relay I am with you 100% on having to protect ourselves because no one else will. One of the ladies working with my wife has a problem with a probable illegal gang banger in our town continuing to threaten her family. I offered to help, but my wife said the woman’s son (a US Marine) will take care of the matter himself. I guarantee a shallow grave in the Owhyee Mountains to anyone legal or illegal who threatens harm to my family. Coyotes have to eat too.

  37. #37
    On August 23rd, 2007 at 1:07 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    “Send them home” - the illegals or your representatives.

  38. #38
    On August 23rd, 2007 at 1:13 pm, feebiebabe said:

    #37 - Both!

  39. #39
    On August 23rd, 2007 at 1:22 pm, Just A Grunt said:

    Just adding more fuel to the fire here. First the headline: 30 Mexican workers level kidnapping allegations against police in Mississippi town
    First paragraph -

    JACKSON, Miss. (Map, News) - Thirty Mexican nationals with visas to work in the U.S. claim police in Pascagoula kidnapped and threatened them with arrest or deportation if they did not return to an employer.

    Midway -

    The workers said they received H2B temporary visas to work for Southwest Shipyards in Channelview, Texas, but left the company because they were paid less than they were promised and working conditions were poor.

    Under terms of their visas, the workers were permitted only to work for the company that sponsored them.

    Then this -

    Garcia said the workers were not searched, handcuffed or detained by the officers, but that the way they were handled merits their kidnapping claim.

    and finally -

    The workers, all from Veracruz, Mexico, said they paid a recruiter between $1,500 and $2,000 to come to the U.S., expecting to make $16.50 an hour. Instead, they said Southwest Shipyards paid them $14 an hour, of which they only kept $12 an hour after transportation and living expenses were deducted.

    With outside help, the workers escaped to New Orleans, where they have been living without work or money, according to The (South Mississippi) Sun Herald.

    They are just doing the jobs Americans won’t, traveling willie nilly all over the place and thumbing their nose at our laws and in fact doing just like the Muslim organization CAIR does, filing frivolous lawsuits.

  40. #40
    On August 23rd, 2007 at 1:24 pm, Schweggie said:

    Laree said:
    I watched Geraldo vs Tancredo on Hannity & Colmes, about this very subject, he keeps trying to change the subject. That is telling to me, he is lawyer and can’t argue from a position of strength. Then why does he keep it up?

    Well, the short answer is attention. Geraldo has a GINORMOUS ego that has to be fed constantly. When he goes on his rants that are short on points and long on righteous indignation, he knows it gets more eyeballs on him. This is my opinion.

    Can we try and pin down the points he does try to make, by the way? The are very weak on their own, he knows this, which is why he increases the volume when he’s stating them, to make them sound more legitimate.

    But it would be good to have his specific views on record.

    - The point he clamors most loudly about is that because Carranza was an illegal, that’s why the ‘immigrationists’ and ‘certain contributors to Fox News’ as he said went nuts, ignoring the other 60 homicides in Newark. Is that even a point? Trying to point out hypocrisy that doesn’t exist? This is about preventable murders…

    Please revise, add Geraldo’s exact views, for the record.

  41. #41
    On August 23rd, 2007 at 1:38 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    #37 & #38 I agree. We really can survive without either.

  42. #42
    On August 23rd, 2007 at 2:09 pm, malkin_fan said:

    August 23, 2007 — The thugs who shot four college students in Newark reportedly preceded their sick attack by trying to sexually assault their two female victims.

    The group of six assailants - who shot two men and a woman dead and wounded another woman - failed in their attempt at a sexual attack, and then decided to kill their victims, according to 1010 WINS radio.

    Six suspects have now been charged in the Aug. 4 atrocity, in which the victims were blasted execution-style.

    Yesterday, a family member of one of the slain victims, Iofemi Hightower, described the level of savagery of the attack. He said the thugs used a machete to hack their victims.

    “They cut my niece’s face off,” said John McClain, who is Hightower’s great-uncle, and the chaplain of the Newark Police Department. “They cut her from cheek to cheek. They left her head hanging.”

    McClain said the mortician told him he had to work for three days to put his grand-niece’s face back together.

    “Most people couldn’t tell, when he was done, but the family could tell,” he said.

    One of the accused killers, 17-year-old Alexander Alfaro, is scheduled to appear in court today in Virginia, where he is expected to waive extradition to New Jersey.

    Five other suspects - 28-year-old Jose Carranza, an illegal immigrant from Peru; Rodolfo Godinez, 24, Alfaro’s half-brother; Melvin Jovel, 18, of Elizabeth, N.J.; and two unnamed 15-year-old boys - are in custody.

    Yesterday, authorities would neither confirm nor deny the radio report that Alfaro and his cohorts allegedly tried to sexually assault Hightower and Natasha Aeriel, 19, who survived the attack.

  43. #43
    On August 23rd, 2007 at 3:29 pm, Rick Moran said:

    Holy mother what were these guys on? I can’t believe they weren’t hepped up on something for that kind of savagrey.

    If they weren’t going to get the hot shot before, they sure deserve it now.

  44. #44
    On August 23rd, 2007 at 3:33 pm, terrig said:

    Good Afternoon Michelle and all, I’ve been out of the loop since Friday afternoon when I had to rush my little daughter to the hospital and she just came home this morning. What a week it has been.
    Now back on topic, I don’t understand the outcry of people like Geraldo and his defenders. What is wrong with this country when the “rights” of criminals and criminals that shouldn’t even be here in the first place trumps that of American citizens, kids hanging out before they go back to school? I heard old Geraldo cryinga bout the illegal who got deported this past weekend. How many of you want to guess about how long it will take her sorry butt to get back here? I agree, Mexico needs to shut up and take care of their own poor instead of sending them to the US. I’m sorry the Mexican Army was so piss poor during the Mexican American War and that many of our finest military men of their times kicked their butts but that is the way it is and it’s just too bad they don’t like it. I would venture a guess our fine military of today would also do the same in record time.
    I wish there was a way that every American whose lives have been touch by criminal illegals could sue the govt. and George W Bush. I am with him on the WOT and support him in that endeavor (yes I have a husband in the military and still support the mission as does he) but we can’t understand what it is the Mexicans have on him. It almost seems the Mexican Govt. has something on this country that is so afraid to deport these people. As for whiney Geraldo, why don’t you invite these people into your compound and take care of them yourself.

  45. #45
    On August 23rd, 2007 at 4:01 pm, CC said:

    Does New Jersey have the death penalty? If so, it needs to be implemented in this case.

  46. #46
    On August 23rd, 2007 at 5:26 pm, Jim M. said:

    I think it’s time for Geritoldo to go on another sailing trip. Or start a new search for Al Capone’s treasure. Or visit Bette Midler’s dressing room again. Anything not dealing with issues with serious consequences.

    From blowing operational security in Iraq by giving away troop positions to defending the indefensible here by pumping up the volume into a histrionic, emotional and male-hormone-deficient diatribe that is continually devoid of any fact or relationship to reality.

    Cab someone please send Geritaldo a treasure map with a decoder ring? That should keep him occupied at his intellectual peak for months.

  47. #47
    On August 23rd, 2007 at 5:32 pm, publiuswarmac9999 said:

    I am convinced that a good use of the civil courts is to file against Newark, the State of New Jersey, and the individual politicians who knowingly created the environment in which this happened. Maybe nothing could be done against these politicos if these thugs were US citizens, but these thugs were known illegals with a criminal history. Newark’s politicos and law enforcement officials deliberately and with malice aforethought created this deadly situation by specifically stating that their city was a sanctuary city which would not cooperate with the federal government. Maybe a hundred million dollar verdict against Newark would send a message that the US citizenry is tired of this nonsense that illegals are to be pitied.

  48. #48
    On August 23rd, 2007 at 5:46 pm, Laree said:

    Schweggie,

    Every time this subject comes up, Geraldo changes it to the Immigration Issue, he argues compassion. Liberals want what feels good, whether it is a good idea or not. I believe these decisions need to be made with your head not your heart, they effect to many people.

    I don’t have a problem with Immigrants, they are not the issue. Illegal Criminal Aliens, are the issue, in this case repeat offenders.

    What is compassionate about what was done to these four American Citizens? Where is Geraldo’s empathy for them?

    How many American bodies, are the proponents for open borders willing to step over?

  49. #49
    On August 23rd, 2007 at 5:53 pm, jferg49 said:

    I think I agree with some of the other writers….let the relatives of the murdered people sue the government…they start piling up those cases…maybe someone will start doing their job, and kicking out the illegal folks…sorry, it’s not your country yet..the fact that illegals have killed more people during the same time frame as the Iraqi war, should be enough to get people angry…and possibly get our politicians to act.

  50. #50
    On August 23rd, 2007 at 6:16 pm, USMCgramma said:

    I posted the name of this web site in two locations so everyone who may not have heard of Americans for Legal Immigration can view it.
    http://www.alipac.us

  51. #51
    On August 23rd, 2007 at 6:43 pm, Speakup said:

    Just exactly how many back door Gov. coyote amnesties are there anyway?

    Imagine how much the US would be improved if the crooks were all run out of of DC.

  52. #52
    On August 23rd, 2007 at 7:16 pm, gayle said:

    IF we could empty out DC…all the illegals could live there …and even use the Senate Building as a refugee camp.

    Wonder what the congressional leaders would say about that?

  53. #53
    On August 23rd, 2007 at 9:44 pm, TheCityTroll said:

    OFF TOPIC but I have to share this story by Michael Hirsh. You’ll enjoy it.

    http://thecitytroll.blogspot.com/2007/08/michael-hirsh-needs-to-go-for-drug-test.html

  54. #54
    On August 25th, 2007 at 6:00 pm, Bhishma said:

    Check out Tom Tancredo v/s Geraldo: http://www.teamtancredo.typepad.com/

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