Smearing Bobby Jindal
I’ve written before about desperate liberal attacks on GOP rising star and gubernatorial candidate Bobby Jindal. The latest comes from Louisiana Democrats attacking him as “anti-Protestant” by twisting an essay on religion he published in the Oxford Review. Jindal is Catholic. Ed Morrissey has more. Here’s the dirty Democrat ad:
It’s not just Republicans who are now objecting to the low blow. Via the Jindal for Governor campaign, here are independent and Democrat officials in Louisiana who have gone on record opposing the attack:
I met Bobby Jindal two years ago, and what impressed me the most above everything else was how sincere and openly he talked about his Christian faith. Louisiana needs more public servants that are willing to stand up and be unashamed of their faith in Jesus Christ. I am a Democrat, and I don’t know about other parts of this state, but in Caldwell parish, we put a lot more stock in a man’s character and values, than in an R or D by their name. Bobby Jindal has been unashamed to share his personal testimony with me, and in my opinion anyone who attacks Bobby’s Christian testimony should sleep with a heavy conscience.
Steve May (D)
Caldwell Parish SheriffI am proud to be a Democrat, but I am disgusted by the Louisiana Democratic Party operatives’ recent attacks on Bobby Jindal’s Christian faith. Bobby has been one of the strongest defenders of family values and he has personally shared with me his commitment to our Lord Jesus Christ. That’s more important to me than any party label, and I am proud to stand with him.
Ben Nevers (D)
State SenatorI am supporting Bobby Jindal because he is a man of honesty and integrity; a Christian man who is sincerely concerned about all people from all walks of life. Bobby will bring a new vision to Louisiana, removing the negative image of the past and present regarding corrupt elected officials. With Bobby Jindal as our Governor, a positive light will shine on Louisiana as other states look on.
Wayne Jones (D)
St. John the Baptist SheriffI’ve visited and talked with Bobby Jindal on multiple occasions, and the petty party politics that the Democratic party is trying to use to criticize Bobby Jindal’s personal decision to share his Christian faith is one of the lowest form of dirty political tricks I have ever seen. I’m not a Republican OR a Democrat. I am an Independent, but I’m a Christian and Louisianian first, and countless others in Northwest Louisiana share those same priorities. Its time our state expect more from its leaders, and we finally have a chance to change how the rest of the world looks at Louisiana if we elect Bobby as our next Governor. I hope the Democratic Party operatives who are attacking Bobby on his Christian beliefs pay a heavy price with the voters of this great state.
Chip Dickie (I)
Mayor of Oil City“This is not the Democratic Party that I agreed to join years ago. Anyone that believes it’s a good idea to attack a man who is willing to share his Christian beliefs, is dead wrong. At a time when our state needs to come together, dirty campaign operatives are trying to divide us among religious lines. This attempt is despicable and I urge the Party’s elected leaders to join me in denouncing this ad immediately.”
Randy “Country” Seal (D)
Washington Parish Assessor
President of the Louisiana Assessors Association“As a Democratic Mayor in South Louisiana, I am calling on my colleagues and friends across this great state to demand that the Democratic Party in Baton Rouge cease and desist the attack ads on Bobby Jindal’s Christian faith. I have heard Bobby Jindal give his personal testimony, and the idea of any person or organization stooping to this level has insulted the religions of all Louisianians. This is not an attack just on Bobby’s Christian beliefs, but on ALL religious beliefs. I have seen dirty politics in the past, but this is a new low.”
Raymond Harris (D)
Mayor of Franklin“I have had the privilege of hearing Bobby’s Christian testimony first hand in my own parish, which makes these attacks by the Democratic Party’s paid operatives inexcusable. As a Christian, I am personally offended by these tactics and the people of Louisiana should not accept this behavior. For the Democratic Party to alter Bobby’s Christian writings is a desperate attempt for political gain, and is a new low in Louisiana politics.”
Mike Grimmer (D)
Livingston Parish PresidentAs a registered Democrat, I have not always followed party lines in voting. This gubernatorial election will also see me crossing the line and voting for Bobby Jindal for Governor. To be honest, I am ashamed of the Democratic party after the ads, attempting to smear Bobby’s Christian faith, strong moral values, and character hit the air this week. I urge everyone to stop this king of low-down and shameful politicking by casting your vote for the most qualified and honest candidate in this campaign – Bobby Jindal.
Jack Hammons (D)
Mayor of Winnsboro
A lawyer for the Jindal campaign has asked that the ads be pulled:
A Louisiana Democratic Party ad accusing Republican candidate for governor Bobby Jindal of calling Protestants “scandalous, depraved, selfish and heretical” has prompted a firestorm of criticism and calls Tuesday from the GOP to take the ad off the air.
Political watchers questioned whether the ad went too far and whether it accurately reflects Jindal’s writings on Catholicism. Republicans and the head of a national Catholic organization called the ad a smear campaign.
Democrats say the 30-second TV spot — running in heavily Protestant central and north Louisiana — simply explains Jindal’s beliefs with his own words, using portions of Jindal’s religious writings through the 1990s, before he was an elected official.
A lawyer for the Jindal campaign sent a letter to nine television stations airing the ad, requesting that they stop showing it and calling it defamatory.
State Democratic Party officials said they won’t end the TV ad, and neither of the major Democratic candidates, state Sen. Walter Boasso and Public Service Commissioner Foster Campbell, called for the ad to be removed from the air.
But a former communications strategist for Democratic Gov. Kathleen Blanco, who isn’t running for re-election in the Oct. 20 primary, called the ad an outrageous attack that distracts from more important topics in the governor’s race, like hurricane recovery, health care and education.
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God forbid we have people in our government who actually have the ability to craft an essay.
I’m used to people who think we’ve already been putting around on Mars and shouldn’t waste our time going back.
I’m so glad to see those Democrats asking for the ads to be pulled. In a really sneaky move, the ad has been shown in heavily-protestant NORTH Louisiana, and not at all in heavily-Catholic SOUTH Louisiana. Disgusting, indeed.
p.s. I should have added above that many of those on the list in Michelle’s post are from North Louisiana.
Someone should see if this ad was produced by the same Dem operatives who took Newt Gingrich so grossly out of context in an attack ad about 10 years ago.
Making outright misrepresentations about a candidate’s beliefs instead of discussing substantive issues is absolute proof that a political campaign is desperately scraping the bottom of the barrel. For Democrats in Louisiana — of all places — that must be a sobering admission.
What? Politicians attacking one another on non-substantive issues? Taking their words out of context? I’m shocked!
What? People were going ga-ga over Rep. Ellison’s faith when he was running. But now it’s hands-off?
I think the Protestant voters of Louisiana have every right to know if a candidate thinks their religion is heresy.
And the idea that Catholicism is somehow less subjective than Protestantism is laughable.
Should we be so shocked by Louisiana Democrats? Their posterboys left hundreds of school buses unused during Katrina and had $90,000 worth of bribes in a freezer. This is just politics as usual.
Okay…remember when John Edwards hired Amanda Marcotte to be his campaign webmistress and she wrote, about Christians (and the Catholic faith specifically):
And John Edwards DEFENDED her, saying:
What’s the lesson here, regarding criticism of (or outward hostility toward) religion?
If you’re a liberal and a Democrat – you didn’t mean to “malign anyone’s faith”. You will be applauded as a noble voice speaking against an oppressive patriarchy, and high-ranking Democratic candidates will defend you.
If you’re a Republican or conservative, your religious writings and opinions will be taken out of context to make it appear you despise Christians, and liberals will demonize you for being bigoted and anti-Protestant (or anti-something).
Funny how Democrats never care about the feelings of Christians when THEY’RE doing the insulting…
So Rusty, in a posting about how the dems are taking his statements out of context, you go and do the same thing. And you’re not even getting the word subjective right. He said subjective, as in the opposite of objective, not subjugate, as in to oppress.
If you’re going to defend such abhorent behavior, at least know what the words mean.
and I do no how to spell abhorrent, (my bad).
Rusty:
Christ established ONE church on Earth. Not two, three, or four hundred. One.
Churches that recognize Christ are part of that church, but are missing the full package – the Eucharist, and the authority of the Magisterium.
The lack of an authoritative body does lead to division, and I daresay Protestant sects that are break-offs of other sects would consider sects heretical, or they wouldn’t have broken away – would they?
The point of this story is not what Jindal’s beliefs are, but the fact that Democrats – the very same people who, in my post above, had no problem smearing Christianity and Catholicism and DEFENDING it – are now using someone’s writings against him.
Doesn’t this seem a bit opportunistic and hypocritical to you?
I wonder what impression the intended audience for this ad would have if they read the actual essay which was excerpted? I haven’t read the entire essay, but I can’t help but think they cherry-picked statements out of context of the entire essay…
Amen! His career in politics is over (as a democrat).
First of all, I know precisely what “subjective” means. I am insulted that someone could think I’m that stupid.
Jindal is saying that Catholicism is an objective reading of God’s word. That is such a crock. All denominations are run by man. They pick-and-choose. Why else is homosexuality treated as a major sin while eating shellfish and wearing clothing made of more than one fabric, two other sins in Leviticus, are now ignored? There is no objectivity in religion because objectivity is impossible in matters of faith.
Englishqueen, what Amanda Marcotte wrote was against the pale. I agree with her that Catholicism is incredibly misogynistic and that the Vatican’s stance on birth control is an extension of that. (Birth control, btw, being another “sin” Catholicism invented out of thin air). But Marcotte was far too glib and profane about something that’s very important to a lot of people. But I can’t speak for Edwards or other Democrats. I can only speak of my feelings on the issue. And I believe when a man writes a popular religion is heresy, voters should know.
If you’re wondering, I’m an Episcopalian.I know that my denomination is a little wacky and not on the strongest theological ground. Jindal probably has me there.
Ladybug, Jindal’s essay is a very common defense of Catholicism. It’s just, man, if you’re running for office don’t call a gigantic swath of voters heretics!
Nothing new here,typical Lousyana politics.They are afraid if someone a little honest gets in they wont be able to steal as much of the recovery money.Im Episcopal,we dont have the ten commandments,we have the ten suggestions
Agree with that…
/I’m a Catholic
Did you even read Jindal’s essay?
This is what happens when decent people get into politics. Nothig is sacred to power mad political operatives…not even Jesus Christ.
Michael, I wouldn’t be too quick to label this problem “Louisiana Politics”. This kind of cesspool politics is going on everywhere.
Being from Louisiana, I can tell you that the Democrats have sunk any chances of their candidate winning the election. I predict that Jindal will win with over 60% of the vote. The good and decent people of Louisiana are certainly capable of electing a corrupt politician, but they won’t stand for this type of character assination that’s out in the open for all to see.
The MSM can’t cover for democrats anymore. Fox News and the internet are educating voters like never before.
Yes.
Based on his responses thus far, it’s pretty obvious he didn’t.
I don’t know what all the hubbub is about anyway. Semantic differences between Catholicism and Protestantism, specifically centered on the ritual aspect, the ‘practice’ of denominations of the same religion?
What bearing could this possibly have on Jindal’s ability to govern? Only those with a strong pre-existing predjudice against Catholicism are going to listen to this tripe, and those folks probably wouldn’t have voted for a Catholic candidate anyway based on the same pre-existing predjudice.
Because GOD said homosexuality is and abomination in the new and old testaments but do not take my word for it, ask a Sodomite (oops – none around any longer – sorry). If you read your Bible you would know CHRIST is the fulfillment of the law and, therefore, we are no longer bound by those silly little laws of the Levitical church (or any other church for that matter). We are now held to a higher standard – that of CHRIST. So eating shellfish is not a sin. What goes into your mouth does not defile you – what proceeds from it does.
Now, Jindal is under attack for his Christianity. Who’s mouth is more vile, Jindal for the profession of his Faith or the people attacking him because of his Faith?
What am I missing? He argues that Catholicism is the only Church that can objectively interpret the Bible. That is, of course, crazy since Catholics, even the Popes, are as human as you or I.
I understand his point. But that’s like me leaving the first comment on a post and then arguing that I am right because I was the first to voice an interpretation or opinion. That’s crazy. Martin Luther and John Calvin have just as much authority as anyone else. Heck, they might have more considering the shenanigans the Popes were involved in back then.
On-my-soap-box, LOL!
If you can find where Jesus Christ opposes homosexuality, you win. He says as much on homosexuality as he does on shellfish. Zip.
On-My-Soap-Box,
He is not being attacked for being a Christian. He is being attacked for writing some statements that, on their face, are pretty shocking.
Granted, they may have been taken out of context or distorted. Granted also that what whatever his beliefs are with respect to catholicism/protestantism may have little bearing on his ability to govern.
But to say that people are attacking him because of his faith is like saying people were criticizing Mel Gibson’s faith when he made those anti-semetic remarks.
Chapoutier, what are the statements that he wrote that are, on their face, pretty shocking? That sounds like Liberal politcal talking points to me. Nobody said he’s being attacked because of his faith. He’s being attacked because he’s the republican candidate. Are you damage control for the local Dems?
Rusty,
Let me point out that Leviticus is OT. Christianity, and specifically Catholicism, is based on the NT (which details the life and teachings of Christ, hence Christians), as are the claims of Catholics to be the one true church (i.e. established by Peter), all of which I’m sure you know and just “forgot” as liberals usually do when they want to insult Christians. Jindal was speaking “objectively” when he noted that in the view of Catholics, all Protestants are heretics. Nothing new there, been that way since the Reformation. And that goes double for Anglicans, given the origins of the Church of England. The outrage comes from the attempt by the Democrats, atheistic or agnostic to the bone, to drive a wedge between Catholics and Protestants. I thought we’d dealt with this back around 1959, but apparently this is just another example of the double standard theory of Democrat gutter politics. It’s going to backfire on them. Jindal’s far too popular for purely secular reasons.
alright orlandocajun, I should clarify,
He is accused of writing some things, which, on their face would be pretty shocking. The example I read states that he accuses non-Catholics as having “utterly depraved minds.” I would say that is somewhat shocking.
My point was not about the veracity of what he is being accused of saying or the veracity of the claims that he said them.
My point is that criticizing such a statement (again with the caveat that I don’t know the veracity of the claim or the context in which it may have been uttered) is not Catholic-bashing or Christian-bashing as it is “crazy-statement” bashing.
Rusty:
This is not a thread on the debate over homosexuality. JESUS is GOD but you have to believe in the trinity.
Chapoutier:
Oh, really? Seems like I am not alone in my assessment.
in my opinion anyone who attacks Bobby’s Christian testimony should sleep with a heavy conscience.
Steve May (D)
Caldwell Parish Sheriff
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I am disgusted by the Louisiana Democratic Party operatives’ recent attacks on Bobby Jindal’s Christian faith
Ben Nevers (D)
State Senator
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the petty party politics that the Democratic party is trying to use to criticize Bobby Jindal’s personal decision to share his Christian faith is one of the lowest form of dirty political tricks I have ever seen
Chip Dickie (I)
Mayor of Oil City
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Anyone that believes it’s a good idea to attack a man who is willing to share his Christian beliefs, is dead wrong
Randy “Country” Seal (D)
Washington Parish Assessor
President of the Louisiana Assessors Association
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I am calling on my colleagues and friends across this great state to demand that the Democratic Party in Baton Rouge cease and desist the attack ads on Bobby Jindal’s Christian faith
Raymond Harris (D)
Mayor of Franklin
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For the Democratic Party to alter Bobby’s Christian writings is a desperate attempt for political gain, and is a new low in Louisiana politics.”
Mike Grimmer (D)
Livingston Parish President
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I am ashamed of the Democratic party after the ads, attempting to smear Bobby’s Christian faith
Jack Hammons (D)
Mayor of Winnsboro
We can’t have freedom of religion if certain overzealous sects overstep the bounds and bring their dogma into politics and government.
In the olden days they understood what religious conflict and freedom of religion were about, as is evident in this passage from de Tocqueville:
Yeah, sure would be nice if Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, among others, would stick to religion and keep their noses out politics. De Tocqueville, it would seem, was speaking of the disinclination of members of the clergy to speak out on political matters (an attitude one could wish would again become fashionable), not, apparently, against devout lay members running for office (which seems to be your POV). In fact, in his day, it would have been unheard of for an agnostic, much less an atheist, to even be considered.
Thanks MM for bring this to light.
I have met Bobby twice, he is also my Congressman. I have never heard Mr. Jindal speak a negative word toward anyone. This man is a true leader who is well above this type of politicking, and why he will be our next Governor. To bad all of us are not represented by folks of his caliber
Well I am both Christian and not an idiot (and, surprisngly, liberal!). You’re not telling me anything new.
As for wedge politics. Yeah, sort of. LA has a large Protestant population. Jindal wrote an essay that accuses Protestants of being heretics and of following a theologically inferior denomination. Dems would be crazy not to point that out.
Arguing that this is beyond the pale honestly confuses me. He wrote what he wrote. It’s not dishonest of anyone to point that out to voters. He’s criticizing a huge group of people!
JESUS is GOD and GOD says that shellfish are not to be eaten in the same book as the homosexuality thing. Why use the Trinity standard for one and not the other?
In describing his journey to Catholicism, I believe Jindal made reference to and quoted statements other people had made. I am a Catholic, and I believe my religion is the one true religion – a belief shared, I’m sure, by Baptists about their faith, Methodists about theirs, etc. Jindal is no different.
BTW, I have heard great things about Jindal and have no problem with the man. I disagree with his essay but I don’t personally find it offensive. It’s just, you can kind of see where some people might get a little angry about this. It’s the Dems’ job to elect Democrats and if they think this is the best way to go about it, Godspeed to them.
You are right, this has nothing to do with Jindal’s ability to govern. And there are, to my surprise and chagrin, apparently a number of people out there with a great deal of animus toward Catholics (Rusty, I’m talking about you).
I’m surprised you’re surprised reine.de.tout.
As an agnostic conservative, I experience a great deal of animus in the realm of religion on at least a weekly basis.
People spend far too much time concentrating on the religious preferences of candidates. I’ve seen little to suggest that this concern is justified, other than as just another way to justify disliking someone.
Say what you will, Catholics and Protestants worship the same diety, follow the same commandments, etc. etc. Viewed from an outside perspective, it’s only window dressing (ritual and the whole Pope thing) that makes them different.
What surprised me the least about this whole thing, is that the so-called ‘party of tolerance’, ‘big tent’, etc. etc. is engaged in intentional divisiveness yet again.
I should clarify. . .I did find it VERY encouraging to hear Democratic affiliated voices come out in Jindal’s support. It reminds me that there are many (if not a majority) in each party who remain sensible, rational adults, who rise above this sort of petty silliness.
Again I say it, thank GOD the founding fathers ensured the separation of church and state….
If Jindal can whip up a mean crawfish pie–he da man! Thought I’d change the tune of the comments.
On my soap box,
All that list proves is that you have good company in your inability to logically reason and make a proper argument.
And I would like someone to point out what Rusty has said that could remotely be interpreted as anti catholic except the fact that he does not happen to agree with Catholic doctrine.
Seriously Rusty, I think you’ll find this little example typical of the level of discourse here:
Intro: MM poss an article supporting her view that apples are tastier than oranges.
Comments:
1. That’s right! Apples rule!
2. Yeah! Apples! WooHoo!
3. Only a commie dimmocrat would hate apples.
4. (Rusty) I really like apples too, but a nice orange on a hot day can be really refreshing.
5. Rusty why do you hate apples? Has the anti-apple MSM brainwashed you?
6. (Rusty) Uhhh….actually I said I like apples. I was just pointing out a particular disagreement with one aspect.
7. Traitorous Apple hater!
8. (Rusty) Guys, wait> I said I like apples. I just see virtue in oranges too.
9. Pelosi is an apple hater too. Are you from San Francisco, Rusty?
No one said Rusty was a commie dimmocrat. Where did you get that – made it up in your head?
Rusty did not say “I like apples but a nice oragne can be really refreshing.” Here is the quote from Rusty’s comment:
He COULD have said “I don’t agree with the teachings of Catholicism”. That would be like saying he likes apples but a nice orange etc. But that isn’t what he said. What he actually DID say sounds pretty mean-spirited and intolerant.
I think it’s a silly move by Democrats. I’ll bet the majority of voters in LA are thinking “I’ll bet he’d make a better Gov. than whats-her-name.”
Actually, I’m not at all surprised you’re a liberal, and if I thought you were an idiot, we wouldn’t be having this conversation. As I pointed out in the line you quoted, I was proceeding under the assumption that you were already cognizant of the biblical points I was making – you were simply selectively ignoring them. Unless you think that Christian doctrine really is based on Leviticus, which is what I took you to claim.
This essay was written some years ago for a Catholic publication (didn’t I read somewhere in this that he was in school at the time?) and as far as I can see represents nothing more or less than Catholic orthodoxy. One of my assignments in an economics class at RPI was to write a defense of socialism. I’d hate to have someone bring that out now and triumphantly wave it around as “proof” I was a Socialist. For that matter, I wonder what you could find among Billary’s writings at Yale, if you were so inclined.
Yup, you’re quite right. Which is why all the crocodile tears about the Swift Boat Vets and their campaign against Kerry raised little sympathy from me. That and the fact that I’m a Vietnam vet also, and I found the man personally beyond offensive. I don’t have any problem with the Dems running this ad. I just think it’s typically hypocritical of them, and I think, given Jindal’s reputation in La., that it’s suicidal for them to do so. I could be wrong. We’ll see.
OK, I don’t see anybody questioning Jindal’s faith, or wondering his reasoning for expressing it. Everyone is fine with that, and that is a good thing.
One thing that shocks me about the comments on this thread (particularly from the obviously Catholic posters) is the condescending and disingenuous nature of the bash on Protestants. Protestants are now called ‘Evangelicals’ for some reason and I prefer Protestant because I don’t know where ‘evangelical’ came from other than it seems ‘extreme’.
If a Protestant had said something like ‘Catholics are only Christians for the show and left the doctrine of the Church long ago before the Reformation’, all the Catholics AND the anti-Catholic defamation league would be calling for apologies and calling the remarks ‘anti-Catholic’ and calling the person who said the remarks ‘bigoted’. . . etc. etc. etc.
But now, to Catholics, aparently having issues with bigoted remarks toward Protestants makes you ‘anti-Catholic’. Catholics have a double standard in society and that is the apprehension that Protestants have toward Catholics (and where bigoted feelings arise with regard to Catholics).
I’m sure Jindal is a good guy and will be a good leader. I look at his Christianity as a good thing. But I hope and wish that he doesn’t think MY FAITH IN CHRIST is heretical BECAUSE he doesn’t understand my faith in Christ based on the BIBLE and what the BIBLE says (not what some elected dude in Rome says).
But just like I don’t care what the Pope says about my Faith, I don’t care what Jindal says about my Faith either.
Aloha Guy – yep. I’m in La. and that’s what I’m thinking. Of course, that’s what I thought the last go-around, and voted for him then, but we all know what happened …
That attack ad by the RNC against Rep. Ford still leaves my angry and shows that both sides sometimes push the envelope entirely too far IMO.
THACKER AGENCY – I’m not smart enough or knowledgeable enough to discuss the history of Christian faiths, but do offer apologies to you if you felt that anything I said was condescending toward Protestants. No condescension or ill-will intended.
it’s all good. I wish that we could all just be Christians based on the authority of the Bible. I respect Hitchins because the story of the Bible is unbelievable and amazing at the same time. So many Christians don’t understand the amazing and literally impossible nature of the Gospel.
I hear stories of Catholics turned off of Christianity and leaving the Church all the time because of some of the doctrines within it. That is a shame. The Gospel is a beautiful story about the Love of the Creator and His willingness to sacrifice Himself. I’d hate to think that a guy like Billy Graham who has converted more people to Christianity than any Catholic is considered to be heretical.
As I said, I appreciate Jindal’s Christian faith, AND I appreciate his willingness to express belief in Christ. He seems like a good guy and I hope he wins because Louisiana needs good leadership now. The tactic by the Democrats here is deplorable and should be roundly condemned as it has been.
Christian love would do the world a lot of good. Hopefully everyone will be given the opportunity to hear the Gospel in my lifetime.
Well, I was educated in a Catholic school. And my mom, and that entire side of my family, is Catholic. I live with a Catholic. Before moving to an area with no representation, my two Senators and Representative were Catholic. I voted for all three. I have no ill-will towards Catholics. I admit to having some ill-will towards Catholicism, but it would never stop me from supporting my preferred candidate and it would never interfere with my personal life.
chapoutier, thanks for the hypothetical dialogue. That does happen a lot. But there are enough people here willing to debate in good faith to make it worth it for me. The others are easily ignored.
i’m sure it’s been said before here… (only scanned quickly through the comments) but when has the DNC ever been concerned with how Protestants feel or believe… Or even religion..
except to suit their purpose..
forgive me for being Mr. Obvious this morning..
I think many people in San Francisco and New York would disagree with you.
So, the completely arbitrary rules handed down by your god are sacred truth, but the completely arbitrary rules of someone else’s god are “silly little laws”?
Hello, kettle? This is the pot calling…
Have any of you ever stopped to wonder why the all-powerful, all-knowing creator of the entire universe is so preoccupied with sex? Why does a being capable of creating something as astonishing as space-time care so much about who sleeps with whom on this one little planet out of his entire creation? Doesn’t that seem a little, I don’t know, counterintuitive?
And before anyone asks, yes I have read the bible. Twelve years of Catholic education is what turned me into an athiest.
Your constant attacks towards me do not bother me.
You are an attorney.
Charge made: He is not being attacked for being a Christian. (chapoutier comment #26)
List of witnesses: Brought by MM (shortened by soap box comment #30)
Plan “B” diversion: Apples and oranges, APPLES AND ORANGES! (chapoutier comment #42)
My turn for a hypothetical.
I call to the stand, GOD.
“Can you produce anything to prove you are GOD the creator?”
“Sure” and GOD creates a stick from thin air.
“Objection! GOD is supposed to have created the universe. How is producing a stick evidence this fraud is GOD?”
So, your argument on Jindal being attacked for being attacked for his faith, chapoutier, is to rebut what others have said with a diversion.
I can’t make a logical argument?
Well 8 years of gay indoc (parent came out) at home, worked several male patients raped by sodomites in the military, followed with 3 years of college anti-Christian bigotry showed me the light and pointed me towards Yeshua’.
Christians show more tolerance at my college, than every atheist/ agnostic socially progressive student and prof has ever shown. Doubt it-see David Limbaugh’s book Persuction and you can read what I and other Christian college students face on a daily basis.
To steal one of Dennis Prager’s favorite phrases, this is a clarifying moment. A state poliitcal party put out a commerical that blatantly appeals to religious bigotry. The reaction, or lack thereof, of the national party to this speaks volumes.
Sadly, the people that need to hear those volumes spoken aren’t hearing it…
Funny how this video is no longer on youtube.