On August 23rd, 2007 at 7:40 pm, chapoutier said:
On my soap box,

All that list proves is that you have good company in your inability to logically reason and make a proper argument.

Your constant attacks towards me do not bother me.

You are an attorney.

Charge made: He is not being attacked for being a Christian. (chapoutier comment #26)

List of witnesses: Brought by MM (shortened by soap box comment #30)

Plan “B” diversion: Apples and oranges, APPLES AND ORANGES! (chapoutier comment #42)

My turn for a hypothetical.

I call to the stand, GOD.

“Can you produce anything to prove you are GOD the creator?”

“Sure” and GOD creates a stick from thin air.

“Objection! GOD is supposed to have created the universe. How is producing a stick evidence this fraud is GOD?”

So, your argument on Jindal being attacked for being attacked for his faith, chapoutier, is to rebut what others have said with a diversion.

I can’t make a logical argument?

ask a Sodomite (oops – none around any longer – sorry).

I think many people in San Francisco and New York would disagree with you.

If you read your Bible you would know CHRIST is the fulfillment of the law and, therefore, we are no longer bound by those silly little laws of the Levitical church

So, the completely arbitrary rules handed down by your god are sacred truth, but the completely arbitrary rules of someone else’s god are “silly little laws”?

Hello, kettle? This is the pot calling…

Have any of you ever stopped to wonder why the all-powerful, all-knowing creator of the entire universe is so preoccupied with sex? Why does a being capable of creating something as astonishing as space-time care so much about who sleeps with whom on this one little planet out of his entire creation? Doesn’t that seem a little, I don’t know, counterintuitive?

And before anyone asks, yes I have read the bible. Twelve years of Catholic education is what turned me into an athiest.

except to suit their purpose..

forgive me for being Mr. Obvious this morning..

And there are, to my surprise and chagrin, apparently a number of people out there with a great deal of animus toward Catholics (Rusty, I’m talking about you).

Well, I was educated in a Catholic school. And my mom, and that entire side of my family, is Catholic. I live with a Catholic. Before moving to an area with no representation, my two Senators and Representative were Catholic. I voted for all three. I have no ill-will towards Catholics. I admit to having some ill-will towards Catholicism, but it would never stop me from supporting my preferred candidate and it would never interfere with my personal life.

chapoutier, thanks for the hypothetical dialogue. That does happen a lot. But there are enough people here willing to debate in good faith to make it worth it for me. The others are easily ignored.

I hear stories of Catholics turned off of Christianity and leaving the Church all the time because of some of the doctrines within it. That is a shame. The Gospel is a beautiful story about the Love of the Creator and His willingness to sacrifice Himself. I’d hate to think that a guy like Billy Graham who has converted more people to Christianity than any Catholic is considered to be heretical.

As I said, I appreciate Jindal’s Christian faith, AND I appreciate his willingness to express belief in Christ. He seems like a good guy and I hope he wins because Louisiana needs good leadership now. The tactic by the Democrats here is deplorable and should be roundly condemned as it has been.

Christian love would do the world a lot of good. Hopefully everyone will be given the opportunity to hear the Gospel in my lifetime.

On August 23rd, 2007 at 9:05 pm, AlohaGuy said:
I think it’s a silly move by Democrats. I’ll bet the majority of voters in LA are thinking “I’ll bet he’d make a better Gov. than whats-her-name.”

Aloha Guy – yep. I’m in La. and that’s what I’m thinking. Of course, that’s what I thought the last go-around, and voted for him then, but we all know what happened …

One thing that shocks me about the comments on this thread (particularly from the obviously Catholic posters) is the condescending and disingenuous nature of the bash on Protestants. Protestants are now called ‘Evangelicals’ for some reason and I prefer Protestant because I don’t know where ‘evangelical’ came from other than it seems ‘extreme’.

If a Protestant had said something like ‘Catholics are only Christians for the show and left the doctrine of the Church long ago before the Reformation’, all the Catholics AND the anti-Catholic defamation league would be calling for apologies and calling the remarks ‘anti-Catholic’ and calling the person who said the remarks ‘bigoted’. . . etc. etc. etc.

But now, to Catholics, aparently having issues with bigoted remarks toward Protestants makes you ‘anti-Catholic’. Catholics have a double standard in society and that is the apprehension that Protestants have toward Catholics (and where bigoted feelings arise with regard to Catholics).

I’m sure Jindal is a good guy and will be a good leader. I look at his Christianity as a good thing. But I hope and wish that he doesn’t think MY FAITH IN CHRIST is heretical BECAUSE he doesn’t understand my faith in Christ based on the BIBLE and what the BIBLE says (not what some elected dude in Rome says).

But just like I don’t care what the Pope says about my Faith, I don’t care what Jindal says about my Faith either.