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1. #1
   On August 26th, 2007 at 12:34 pm, Jaded said:

   I will be there on the 15th and have gathered a group of 5 more to go with, oh and I am glad you are o.k. when I don’t see you post for long periods of time I worry about your safety with all the extreme moonbats out there.

2. #2
   On August 26th, 2007 at 1:11 pm, SirKnob said:

   Yesterday, I was driving in DC. When I reached the mall I took my usual route and ran straight into the police escort for a marching protest group. My first thought, what is it this time?

   To my surprise, it was Iraqi-Americans protesting for support of Iraq. My first thought, ‘its about damn time’. My second thought, ‘go, go, go

3. #3
   On August 26th, 2007 at 1:19 pm, Mr_Conservative_Cat said:

   Anyone know if any protests/counter protests are being planned in nearby (to me) ultra-left Vermont? “Strike at the heart of the beast” - that’s my motto.

4. #4
   On August 26th, 2007 at 2:45 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

   Instead of watching another moonbat parade march unopposed through their town, the counter-protesters pictured in the photo above in Kennebunkport, Maine, turned out to express their dissent (because, as we all, “dissent is patriotic”).

   All my relatives, on both sides, are from Maine. Is it any wonder I live in Florida. Florida is not perfect (hanging chad) but I would just go out of my mind in a New England state.

   Bless these counter-protesters!

5. #5
   On August 26th, 2007 at 6:30 pm, citizen said:

   Bless your heart Beverly and your son too. You’re the best and the brightest, and it’s good to see you getting out for the good guys. You go M’am!

   citizen

6. #6
   On August 26th, 2007 at 6:35 pm, Speakup said:

   Go Eagles!

   They make the American pride meter peg out!

7. #7
   On August 26th, 2007 at 9:43 pm, dedalus said:

   An anti-surrender campaign implies that there is a pro-surrender movement in the country. I know of many groups pushing for withdrawal, and some are recommending that we do so too quickly, but I haven’t spoken with anyone who is advocating that the U.S. surrender by laying down our arms or signing an armistice with Al-Queda.

   Some on the left might be described as pro-failure, but “pro-surrender” would seem to require a real contortion of the words’ military history.

8. #8
   On August 26th, 2007 at 10:22 pm, Jaded said:

   you are pro-surrender when you choose failure to complete the task of winning. To leave Iraq to AQ is to surrender to them…..surrender: to relinquish possession or control of to another because of demand or compulsion.

   The Defeatocrats are demanding we relinquish control of country to AQ a country that we are killing them enmasse in because their compulsion is defeatism…….

9. #9
   On August 26th, 2007 at 10:44 pm, Snooper said:

   American Truth Warriors of A Newt One and myself, Snooper, of Take Our Country Back, will be live broadcasting via Blog Talk Radio, in conjunction with The Halls of Valhalla and Foehammer’s Anvil.

   It will be a hoot combating the Moonbat Fruit Loop Brigades during the Pro Troop Rallies in DC is just a few short weeks.

   Victory is at hand and the Slippery Slope into the Abyss of Obscurity for the Leftinistra is fun to watch.

10. #10
    On August 26th, 2007 at 11:18 pm, dedalus said:

    Hi Jaded,
    You seem to be using the term surrender in a broader sense than that of military history. Is there a historical event that has been termed “surrender” that would be analogous to what the Democrats are proposing?

    I am in favor of staying now, and for a decade or more if needed, in order to see Iraq not become a failed state.

    If we did leave, though, we wouldn’t leave the country to AQ. In the ensuing civil war AQ would be facing intense hostility from Shiite, Kurd and even Sunni Iraqis.

    Third point. I’m not sure the president ever made a case that we wanted to maintain “control” over Iraq. We succeeded in regime change and held democratic elections in an attempt to hand “control” over to the Iraqis. Unfortunately, the elected officials in Iraq are weak. Perhaps, having a later-day MacArthur in Iraq would have been a better way to go.

11. #11
    On August 27th, 2007 at 1:25 am, Miss Ladybug said:

    If we leave Iraq without a stable, self-reliant Iraqi government, we create a failed state, much like pre-9/11 Afghanistan, in which terrorist groups would be able to use as a base of operations.

    Also, “corporate” AQ has said themselves that Iraq is the central front in their war against us. The Dems might not view immediate/near-term “withdrawal” as “surrender”, but AQ sure would. We can never forgot: the enemy gets a vote, too…

12. #12
    On August 27th, 2007 at 3:19 am, Bhishma said:

    A slight correction, MissLadybug, “Bush”, not “we” create a failed state. If you believe that Bush and we are synonymous, think about the amnesty Bush wanted to shove down our throats. Think about the innocent Americans being slaughtered right here in America, by criminals from Bush’s dear Mexico. Think about the additional stident’s visas Bush has approved for Saudi students. Finally, think about the America that Bush has schemed to destroy thru NAU, ever since he took office. Invasion into Iraq had nothing to do with American security or with the meaningless, self-defeating “war on terror”. If was always about punishing Saddam for planning execution of daddy Bush. Rest is all window-dressing, which was so transparent and shallow, that even that did not go well. Now, even after thousands of Amerian troops sacrificed in Iraq, America is no better than before the “liberation”. In a sane world, Bush would be impeached, investigated and prosecuted. But coming back to the point, it was Bush’s idea to invade Iraq. Here is some more about Bush’s presidency: http://www.vdare.com/guzzardi/070824_vfl.htm
    Bush and Bush alone, is responsible, whatever the outcome. Not “we”… if you see the difference. And as a disclaimer, am not a democrat.

13. #13
    On August 27th, 2007 at 3:34 am, SFWife said:

    Is there anyone (ahem, besides the troll, that is) out there that knows of a similar group here in WA state? I am assuming there will be plenty of protesters from our good socialist friends in Freemont, et al, at the Republican fundraiser in Bellvue tomorrow. POTUS is on the confirmed guest list.

14. #14
    On August 27th, 2007 at 8:04 am, Justin Higgins said:

    Go to the Gathering of Eagles forums and stop in to your local state forum.

15. #15
    On August 27th, 2007 at 1:58 pm, Miss Ladybug said:

    Bhishma~

    In this instance, “we” is the United States of America. Congress, elected by the American people, authorized the use of military force in an effort to get Saddam to comply with more than a dozen UN resolutions he was in violation of, as well as to stop his funding of terrorist organizations and to stop him from passing WMD technologies (which have been found in small numbers in Iraq; I believe the majority of them were shipped off to Syria and beyond prior to the actual invasion on March 20, 2003 - it’s not like he didn’t have the time…). As a nation, we decided it was in our best interests to invade Iraq. We, as a nation, “broke it” when we deposed Saddam. We “bought it”, in essence, so we have to “fix it” before we leave them on their own.

    Immigration “reform” is not a good analogy. I do not agree with Bush’s position on illegal immigration. Neither to most Americans. Those Americans refused to remain silent when Congress tried to shove “comprehensive immigration reform” down our throats. Enough of our duly elected Congressional representatives listened to the American people, and that “shamnesty” was prevented, although those of us against illegal alien amnesty cannot rest on our laurels.

16. #16
    On August 27th, 2007 at 9:31 pm, Bhishma said:

    On August 27th, 2007 at 1:58 pm, Miss Ladybug said:
    Bhishma~

    As a nation, we decided it was in our best interests to invade Iraq. We, as a nation, “broke it” when we deposed Saddam. We “bought it”, in essence, so we have to “fix it” before we leave them on their own.

    Bush sold lies that “we” bought. Do you still want to stand by the lies that you bought? If you want to, feel free, but I don’t. Not only do I reject the lies, but also the liar. Hence, although “we” bought his lies, “we” should now move away from the lies and the liar, who alone should be held respolsibile for consequesnce of his lies.

    Immigration “reform” is not a good analogy. I do not agree with Bush’s position on illegal immigration. Neither to most Americans. Those Americans refused to remain silent when Congress tried to shove “comprehensive immigration reform” down our throats. Enough of our duly elected Congressional representatives listened to the American people, and that “shamnesty” was prevented, although those of us against illegal alien amnesty cannot rest on our laurels.

    And that is the point. How can you stand behind a liar who conned you into believeing the lies about WMDs and Terror cells (we now know there were none of that), when the same sellout, corrupt, liar tried to legitimize foreign criminals? Does this not tell you about the ?

17. #17
    On August 27th, 2007 at 9:35 pm, Bhishma said:

    Does this not tell you about the ?

    ..Does this not tell you something about the president/commander-in-chief who left the borders open, to be invaded?

18. #18
    On August 28th, 2007 at 3:56 am, Miss Ladybug said:

    Bhishma said:

    Hence, although “we” bought his lies, “we” should now move away from the lies and the liar, who alone should be held respolsibile for consequesnce of his lies.

    If “we” abandon Iraq, thousands of innocent Iraqis will pay the price for our indifference. You think the Killing Fields of SE Asia were bad? If The United States of America (not the President, not Congress, but the US of A) walks away from Iraq before they can protect themselves, I’m afraid the Killing Fields will be mild in comparison to the carnage we will see.

    And, I don’t think Bush lied about the intelligence. Congress saw the same intelligence he did. At the time of the invasion every intelligence agency from pretty much any country you could name believed Saddam had WMD. The “Bush lied” crowd (of whatever stripe - I know they aren’t all Dems) seems to forget that part…

19. #19
    On August 29th, 2007 at 4:39 pm, ArmywifeArmymom said:

    I was able to make it to the Charlotte rally of the last Move America Forward caravan. I can’t make the one coming up in September. I really wish I could. It’s amazing to me that mothers who support the mission that their sons’ are fighting for are usually totally overlooked by the mainstream media. I realize that the supportive moms are a dime a dozen — there are a lot of us — and the crazy, dictator hugging whack-a-doos are rare. Still, I think our voices need to be heard. :p