Hence, although “we” bought his lies, “we” should now move away from the lies and the liar, who alone should be held respolsibile for consequesnce of his lies.

If “we” abandon Iraq, thousands of innocent Iraqis will pay the price for our indifference. You think the Killing Fields of SE Asia were bad? If The United States of America (not the President, not Congress, but the US of A) walks away from Iraq before they can protect themselves, I’m afraid the Killing Fields will be mild in comparison to the carnage we will see.

And, I don’t think Bush lied about the intelligence. Congress saw the same intelligence he did. At the time of the invasion every intelligence agency from pretty much any country you could name believed Saddam had WMD. The “Bush lied” crowd (of whatever stripe – I know they aren’t all Dems) seems to forget that part…

Does this not tell you about the ?

..Does this not tell you something about the president/commander-in-chief who left the borders open, to be invaded?

On August 27th, 2007 at 1:58 pm, Miss Ladybug said:
Bhishma~

As a nation, we decided it was in our best interests to invade Iraq. We, as a nation, “broke it” when we deposed Saddam. We “bought it”, in essence, so we have to “fix it” before we leave them on their own.

Bush sold lies that “we” bought. Do you still want to stand by the lies that you bought? If you want to, feel free, but I don’t. Not only do I reject the lies, but also the liar. Hence, although “we” bought his lies, “we” should now move away from the lies and the liar, who alone should be held respolsibile for consequesnce of his lies.

Immigration “reform” is not a good analogy. I do not agree with Bush’s position on illegal immigration. Neither to most Americans. Those Americans refused to remain silent when Congress tried to shove “comprehensive immigration reform” down our throats. Enough of our duly elected Congressional representatives listened to the American people, and that “shamnesty” was prevented, although those of us against illegal alien amnesty cannot rest on our laurels.

And that is the point. How can you stand behind a liar who conned you into believeing the lies about WMDs and Terror cells (we now know there were none of that), when the same sellout, corrupt, liar tried to legitimize foreign criminals? Does this not tell you about the ?

In this instance, “we” is the United States of America. Congress, elected by the American people, authorized the use of military force in an effort to get Saddam to comply with more than a dozen UN resolutions he was in violation of, as well as to stop his funding of terrorist organizations and to stop him from passing WMD technologies (which have been found in small numbers in Iraq; I believe the majority of them were shipped off to Syria and beyond prior to the actual invasion on March 20, 2003 – it’s not like he didn’t have the time…). As a nation, we decided it was in our best interests to invade Iraq. We, as a nation, “broke it” when we deposed Saddam. We “bought it”, in essence, so we have to “fix it” before we leave them on their own.

Immigration “reform” is not a good analogy. I do not agree with Bush’s position on illegal immigration. Neither to most Americans. Those Americans refused to remain silent when Congress tried to shove “comprehensive immigration reform” down our throats. Enough of our duly elected Congressional representatives listened to the American people, and that “shamnesty” was prevented, although those of us against illegal alien amnesty cannot rest on our laurels.

Also, “corporate” AQ has said themselves that Iraq is the central front in their war against us. The Dems might not view immediate/near-term “withdrawal” as “surrender”, but AQ sure would. We can never forgot: the enemy gets a vote, too…

I am in favor of staying now, and for a decade or more if needed, in order to see Iraq not become a failed state.

If we did leave, though, we wouldn’t leave the country to AQ. In the ensuing civil war AQ would be facing intense hostility from Shiite, Kurd and even Sunni Iraqis.

Third point. I’m not sure the president ever made a case that we wanted to maintain “control” over Iraq. We succeeded in regime change and held democratic elections in an attempt to hand “control” over to the Iraqis. Unfortunately, the elected officials in Iraq are weak. Perhaps, having a later-day MacArthur in Iraq would have been a better way to go.

It will be a hoot combating the Moonbat Fruit Loop Brigades during the Pro Troop Rallies in DC is just a few short weeks.

Victory is at hand and the Slippery Slope into the Abyss of Obscurity for the Leftinistra is fun to watch.

The Defeatocrats are demanding we relinquish control of country to AQ a country that we are killing them enmasse in because their compulsion is defeatism…….

Some on the left might be described as pro-failure, but “pro-surrender” would seem to require a real contortion of the words’ military history.