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	<title>Comments on: Larry Craig: He was for resigning before he was against it Update: New voicemail audio&#8230;What the hell?</title>
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		<title>By: purplepeep</title>
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		<dc:creator>purplepeep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 03:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;AlohaGuy said: 
Once upon a plane ride dreary, while I pondered weak and weary,&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Heh.

Methinks you&#039;re ranting &amp; &quot;raven&quot; there. :)</description>
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Once upon a plane ride dreary, while I pondered weak and weary,</p></blockquote>
<p>Heh.</p>
<p>Methinks you&#8217;re ranting &amp; &#8220;raven&#8221; there. <img src='http://michellemalkin.cachefly.net/michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-content/themes/mm/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Malkin &#187; They debate. You decide.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle Malkin &#187; They debate. You decide.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 01:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] taking responsibility in the sense of resigning from office.&#8221; Ummm, guess he missed the news. Cluebat in aisle one, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: AlohaGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>AlohaGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 01:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once upon a plane ride dreary, while I pondered weak and weary,
Over many a quaint and curious volume of forgotten lore,
While I nodded, nearly pooping, suddenly there came a snooping,
As of some one gently tapping, tapping on the restroom floor.
`&#039;Tis some Senator,&#039; I muttered, `tapping on the restroom floor-
Only this, and nothing more.&#039;

...
Open here I flung the stall door, when, with many a flirt and flutter,
In there stepped a stately Senator of the saintly days of yore.
Not the least obeisance made he; not a minute stopped or stayed he;
But, with mien of lord or lady, picked the TP off the floor -
Then took a stance upon a bust of Pallas just above the restroom floor -
Perched, and sat, and nothing more.
...
Then, methought, the air grew denser, perfumed from an unseen censer
Swung by Senators whose foot-falls tapped on the tufted floor.
`Wretch,&#039; I cried, `thy Party hath lent thee - by these airlines they hast sent thee
Respite - respite and nepenthe from thy tapping on the floor!
Quaff, oh quaff this kind nepenthe, and forget this tapping on the floor!&#039;
Quoth the Senator, `Nevermore.&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once upon a plane ride dreary, while I pondered weak and weary,<br />
Over many a quaint and curious volume of forgotten lore,<br />
While I nodded, nearly pooping, suddenly there came a snooping,<br />
As of some one gently tapping, tapping on the restroom floor.<br />
`&#8217;Tis some Senator,&#8217; I muttered, `tapping on the restroom floor-<br />
Only this, and nothing more.&#8217;</p>
<p>&#8230;<br />
Open here I flung the stall door, when, with many a flirt and flutter,<br />
In there stepped a stately Senator of the saintly days of yore.<br />
Not the least obeisance made he; not a minute stopped or stayed he;<br />
But, with mien of lord or lady, picked the TP off the floor -<br />
Then took a stance upon a bust of Pallas just above the restroom floor -<br />
Perched, and sat, and nothing more.<br />
&#8230;<br />
Then, methought, the air grew denser, perfumed from an unseen censer<br />
Swung by Senators whose foot-falls tapped on the tufted floor.<br />
`Wretch,&#8217; I cried, `thy Party hath lent thee &#8211; by these airlines they hast sent thee<br />
Respite &#8211; respite and nepenthe from thy tapping on the floor!<br />
Quaff, oh quaff this kind nepenthe, and forget this tapping on the floor!&#8217;<br />
Quoth the Senator, `Nevermore.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Big Dogs Weblog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Dogs Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 00:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Helping Larry Craig Stay in Office Without Hurting Republicans...&lt;/strong&gt;

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		<title>By: Ombre Rose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ombre Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 23:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;On September 5th, 2007 at 8:24 am, BOB said: 
Toe tapping and a hand visible under the stall does seem a bit weak on proof of anything. Maybe he tapped his foot because he has, “restless leg syndrome”, and his hand was observed whn he reached down to pick up a stray sheet of toilet paper?

I still think he should step down…but where is the crime?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

When it is a public office, there IS still a &lt;strong&gt;SMALL MINUTE TEENSY WEENSY LITTLE BITTY&lt;/strong&gt; issue of &lt;em&gt;ETHICS!!!  INTEGRITY!!!  FIDUCIARY OBLIGATIONS!!!&lt;/em&gt;

At least in the minds of a FEW people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On September 5th, 2007 at 8:24 am, BOB said:<br />
Toe tapping and a hand visible under the stall does seem a bit weak on proof of anything. Maybe he tapped his foot because he has, “restless leg syndrome”, and his hand was observed whn he reached down to pick up a stray sheet of toilet paper?</p>
<p>I still think he should step down…but where is the crime?</p></blockquote>
<p>When it is a public office, there IS still a <strong>SMALL MINUTE TEENSY WEENSY LITTLE BITTY</strong> issue of <em>ETHICS!!!  INTEGRITY!!!  FIDUCIARY OBLIGATIONS!!!</em></p>
<p>At least in the minds of a FEW people.</p>
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		<title>By: Ombre Rose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ombre Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 23:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Rinos and Moderates must be desperate to drive out what is left of the Conservative voters who are clinging to a desperate hope for the GOP election victories by their fingernails. They want the GOP all to themselves.

Arlen Spectre is always and ever more, such a total phryqueing moron.

Do they imagine they&#039;ll gain some Moderate votes from the DIM party to make up for all the Conservatives they are driving out?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Rinos and Moderates must be desperate to drive out what is left of the Conservative voters who are clinging to a desperate hope for the GOP election victories by their fingernails. They want the GOP all to themselves.</p>
<p>Arlen Spectre is always and ever more, such a total phryqueing moron.</p>
<p>Do they imagine they&#8217;ll gain some Moderate votes from the DIM party to make up for all the Conservatives they are driving out?</p>
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		<title>By: purplepeep</title>
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		<dc:creator>purplepeep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 17:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;swj719AWG said: 
I’m fairly confident that the prosecutors will, in a fit of pique from having had his prior plea tossed out - pull out all the stops and try and throw every book they can get their hands on.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I dunno, swj - my thinkin&#039; is kinda the opposite; if the police had a solid case against Craig in the first place, they would&#039;ve have charged him with what they where looking for - some sex crime or another since that&#039;s a much more serious offense.

I&#039;d compare it to setting up a sting to bust a coke dealer but only having enough evidence to arrest an alleged dealer for the two joints he had in his pocket.
 
So I&#039;m of a mind it would be a gamble for Craig but it would also be a gamble for the police/courts. Obviously Craig has more to lose in that equation.

I don&#039;t think he would even do it unless his atty recommended it as a reasonably safe bet to take.

Too, if it would involve a jury trial, Craig&#039;s chances would be even better. Minneapolis juries are commonly not  police-friendly and tend to be quite liberal.

I believe Arlen Specter&#039;s legal take on this has merit. It probably wouldn&#039;t politically be a wise move, though. At least in the short term.

That&#039;s not speaking fondly of Specter the man or the Senator, just that his analysis of the legal aspects of this case seem well-founded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>swj719AWG said:<br />
I’m fairly confident that the prosecutors will, in a fit of pique from having had his prior plea tossed out &#8211; pull out all the stops and try and throw every book they can get their hands on.</p></blockquote>
<p>I dunno, swj &#8211; my thinkin&#8217; is kinda the opposite; if the police had a solid case against Craig in the first place, they would&#8217;ve have charged him with what they where looking for &#8211; some sex crime or another since that&#8217;s a much more serious offense.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d compare it to setting up a sting to bust a coke dealer but only having enough evidence to arrest an alleged dealer for the two joints he had in his pocket.</p>
<p>So I&#8217;m of a mind it would be a gamble for Craig but it would also be a gamble for the police/courts. Obviously Craig has more to lose in that equation.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think he would even do it unless his atty recommended it as a reasonably safe bet to take.</p>
<p>Too, if it would involve a jury trial, Craig&#8217;s chances would be even better. Minneapolis juries are commonly not  police-friendly and tend to be quite liberal.</p>
<p>I believe Arlen Specter&#8217;s legal take on this has merit. It probably wouldn&#8217;t politically be a wise move, though. At least in the short term.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not speaking fondly of Specter the man or the Senator, just that his analysis of the legal aspects of this case seem well-founded.</p>
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		<title>By: AlohaGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>AlohaGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 17:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lying Crapweasel.

Fake resignation speech (&quot;intend to resign&quot;) - well, not really - while his poor wife stands there humiliated.  Ugh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lying Crapweasel.</p>
<p>Fake resignation speech (&#8220;intend to resign&#8221;) &#8211; well, not really &#8211; while his poor wife stands there humiliated.  Ugh.</p>
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		<title>By: Schweggie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Schweggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 17:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>coffee260, very well stated, my opinion exactly. 

I did catch Rush&#039;s opening monologue, he did say that if Craig said he was going to resign, then he needs to resign. But he did maintain that the GOP are too anxious to get rid of him. 

Glenn Beck said roughly the same thing in his closing monologue today as well, that we have no chance of winning in 2008 if we treat this as another Foley, and throw Craig &#039;under the bus&#039; again. Beck said the reason we lost in 06 wasn&#039;t because of Foley, it was open borders, spending like drunk sailors etc. 

Ok fine, then Rush, Glenn, what would you precisely like to have the GOP &lt;em&gt;do &lt;/em&gt;with Craig? Wipe our hands and give a hearty, &quot;well, s#$! happens, so let&#039;s let bygones be bygones!&quot;  Tell me what should have been done then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>coffee260, very well stated, my opinion exactly. </p>
<p>I did catch Rush&#8217;s opening monologue, he did say that if Craig said he was going to resign, then he needs to resign. But he did maintain that the GOP are too anxious to get rid of him. </p>
<p>Glenn Beck said roughly the same thing in his closing monologue today as well, that we have no chance of winning in 2008 if we treat this as another Foley, and throw Craig &#8216;under the bus&#8217; again. Beck said the reason we lost in 06 wasn&#8217;t because of Foley, it was open borders, spending like drunk sailors etc. </p>
<p>Ok fine, then Rush, Glenn, what would you precisely like to have the GOP <em>do </em>with Craig? Wipe our hands and give a hearty, &#8220;well, s#$! happens, so let&#8217;s let bygones be bygones!&#8221;  Tell me what should have been done then.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark1021</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark1021</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 16:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mr. Craig:
You played a foolish game in public toilet whatever your ultimate objective. Then you arranged and rearranged your story in a lame attempt to find a politically palatable way out of the mess you created. You are craven, get lost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr. Craig:<br />
You played a foolish game in public toilet whatever your ultimate objective. Then you arranged and rearranged your story in a lame attempt to find a politically palatable way out of the mess you created. You are craven, get lost.</p>
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		<title>By: Never Yet Melted &#187; Republicans Should Not Resign Over Sex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Never Yet Melted &#187; Republicans Should Not Resign Over Sex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 16:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Michelle Malkin isn&#8217;t happy that Larry Craig us reconsidering that resignation. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Michelle Malkin isn&#8217;t happy that Larry Craig us reconsidering that resignation. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: coffee260</title>
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		<dc:creator>coffee260</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 15:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s just something creepy about somebody wanting to stay in power so bad that even after potentially being publicly disgraced, such as Craig was, trying to have anonymous gay sex in a bathroom, having been verbally chastised by his colleagues, and having embarrassed his wife like nothing else would; that he wouldn&#039;t slink away with some humility and dignity still in tact just seems pushy. The hubris is overwhelming and creepy, if you ask me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s just something creepy about somebody wanting to stay in power so bad that even after potentially being publicly disgraced, such as Craig was, trying to have anonymous gay sex in a bathroom, having been verbally chastised by his colleagues, and having embarrassed his wife like nothing else would; that he wouldn&#8217;t slink away with some humility and dignity still in tact just seems pushy. The hubris is overwhelming and creepy, if you ask me.</p>
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		<title>By: ajmontana</title>
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		<dc:creator>ajmontana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 15:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Presto,
 Again he is a &lt;em&gt;United States&lt;/em&gt; Senator. Not just representing Idaho. please see below. 

Special Committee on Aging 
Appropriations Committee 
Subcommittee on Agriculture, Rural Development, and Related Agencies

Subcommittee on Energy and Water Development

Subcommittee on Homeland Security

Subcommittee on Labor, Health and Human Services, and Education

Subcommittee on Military Construction and Veterans Affairs

Subcommittee on Interior and Related Agencies, Ranking Member

Committee on Energy and Natural Resources 
Subcommittee on Public Lands and Forests

Subcommittee on Energy

Subcommittee on Water and Power

Committee on Environment and Public Works 
Subcommittee on Public Sector Solutions to Global Warming, Oversight, and Children&#039;s Health Protection

Subcommittee on Superfund and Environmental Health, Ranking Member

Veterans&#039; Affairs Committee, Ranking Member</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Presto,<br />
 Again he is a <em>United States</em> Senator. Not just representing Idaho. please see below. </p>
<p>Special Committee on Aging<br />
Appropriations Committee<br />
Subcommittee on Agriculture, Rural Development, and Related Agencies</p>
<p>Subcommittee on Energy and Water Development</p>
<p>Subcommittee on Homeland Security</p>
<p>Subcommittee on Labor, Health and Human Services, and Education</p>
<p>Subcommittee on Military Construction and Veterans Affairs</p>
<p>Subcommittee on Interior and Related Agencies, Ranking Member</p>
<p>Committee on Energy and Natural Resources<br />
Subcommittee on Public Lands and Forests</p>
<p>Subcommittee on Energy</p>
<p>Subcommittee on Water and Power</p>
<p>Committee on Environment and Public Works<br />
Subcommittee on Public Sector Solutions to Global Warming, Oversight, and Children&#8217;s Health Protection</p>
<p>Subcommittee on Superfund and Environmental Health, Ranking Member</p>
<p>Veterans&#8217; Affairs Committee, Ranking Member</p>
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		<title>By: Schweggie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Schweggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 15:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; On September 5th, 2007 at 11:04 am, purplepeep said:   
The flip side, Mike, is the liberals and the media will yell the same day &amp; night if Craig had to go while Vitter (and/or others) are allowed to stay&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Exactly. We get to pick our poison.  Thanks Larry! 
Curious to hear Rush&#039;s take today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> On September 5th, 2007 at 11:04 am, purplepeep said:<br />
The flip side, Mike, is the liberals and the media will yell the same day &amp; night if Craig had to go while Vitter (and/or others) are allowed to stay</p></blockquote>
<p>Exactly. We get to pick our poison.  Thanks Larry!<br />
Curious to hear Rush&#8217;s take today.</p>
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		<title>By: swj719AWG</title>
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		<dc:creator>swj719AWG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 15:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;On the other hand, being found guilty in court would be much worse for him then his current legal situation. Dunno if he’s willing to take that chance.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Exactly.  He plead because it was the pragmatic thing to do.  If he actualy manages to reverse the plea, and goes to trial, I&#039;m fairly confident that the prosecutors will, in a fit of pique from having had his prior plea tossed out - pull out all the stops and try and throw every book they can get their hands on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On the other hand, being found guilty in court would be much worse for him then his current legal situation. Dunno if he’s willing to take that chance.</p></blockquote>
<p>Exactly.  He plead because it was the pragmatic thing to do.  If he actualy manages to reverse the plea, and goes to trial, I&#8217;m fairly confident that the prosecutors will, in a fit of pique from having had his prior plea tossed out &#8211; pull out all the stops and try and throw every book they can get their hands on.</p>
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