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		<title>By: Worth A Thousand Words &#171; OUT On The Porch</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/09/04/which-path-will-we-take-win-or-surrender/comment-page-1/#comment-495573</link>
		<dc:creator>Worth A Thousand Words &#171; OUT On The Porch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 22:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] tip to Michelle Malkin and her reader who sent it [...]</description>
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		<title>By: DesertLover</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/09/04/which-path-will-we-take-win-or-surrender/comment-page-1/#comment-124153</link>
		<dc:creator>DesertLover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 04:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lgm

ok ... I&#039;ll bite ... since you are so determined to compare WWII with the GWOT ... answer a question for me ...

Since WWII was a &quot;conventional&quot; war and the GWOT is not ...

what country are we at war with? ... in WWII it was Japan, Germany, and Italy ...

Who is it now?

Iraq? Afghanistan? ... how about the radicals in Sweden? or Denmark? or Norway? ... oh sorry ... I guess you meant the people that have set off bombs in Spain? and in Great Britain? ... oh ... no? ... so is it the radical rioters in France that we are fighting? ... how about the rioters in Pakistan? ... or Malaysia? ... or the Phillipines? ... 

There are terrorist activities going on in all those and elsewhere ...

Last I was aware of we are not at war with any other country ... we are at war with a radical idology that is worldwide ... it is not limited geographically to any specific country ... 

In other words ... get your head out of the sand ... or whereever else it is currently shoved ... and get a clue ... this is not a war that can be fought by armies facing off and countries surrendering to one another ... this is a war against our way of life and the ideals this country stands for and which are envied by all those outside this country that are not looking to abolish us ...

wake up and get a clue ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lgm</p>
<p>ok &#8230; I&#8217;ll bite &#8230; since you are so determined to compare WWII with the GWOT &#8230; answer a question for me &#8230;</p>
<p>Since WWII was a &#8220;conventional&#8221; war and the GWOT is not &#8230;</p>
<p>what country are we at war with? &#8230; in WWII it was Japan, Germany, and Italy &#8230;</p>
<p>Who is it now?</p>
<p>Iraq? Afghanistan? &#8230; how about the radicals in Sweden? or Denmark? or Norway? &#8230; oh sorry &#8230; I guess you meant the people that have set off bombs in Spain? and in Great Britain? &#8230; oh &#8230; no? &#8230; so is it the radical rioters in France that we are fighting? &#8230; how about the rioters in Pakistan? &#8230; or Malaysia? &#8230; or the Phillipines? &#8230; </p>
<p>There are terrorist activities going on in all those and elsewhere &#8230;</p>
<p>Last I was aware of we are not at war with any other country &#8230; we are at war with a radical idology that is worldwide &#8230; it is not limited geographically to any specific country &#8230; </p>
<p>In other words &#8230; get your head out of the sand &#8230; or whereever else it is currently shoved &#8230; and get a clue &#8230; this is not a war that can be fought by armies facing off and countries surrendering to one another &#8230; this is a war against our way of life and the ideals this country stands for and which are envied by all those outside this country that are not looking to abolish us &#8230;</p>
<p>wake up and get a clue &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: PBoilermaker</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/09/04/which-path-will-we-take-win-or-surrender/comment-page-1/#comment-124123</link>
		<dc:creator>PBoilermaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 02:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;lgm:  You can debate it, but it is not completely stupid, as some posters say.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well then, it is mostly stupid and completely absurd.

When comparing apples to oranges, you can make ANY argument work to fit your thinking.  Why debate the current data when you can make ludicrous comparisons to unrelated historical data?  

The Liberal model for debate is awesome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>lgm:  You can debate it, but it is not completely stupid, as some posters say.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well then, it is mostly stupid and completely absurd.</p>
<p>When comparing apples to oranges, you can make ANY argument work to fit your thinking.  Why debate the current data when you can make ludicrous comparisons to unrelated historical data?  </p>
<p>The Liberal model for debate is awesome.</p>
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		<title>By: Stop The ACLU &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Petraeus To Recommend Troop Reduction</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/09/04/which-path-will-we-take-win-or-surrender/comment-page-1/#comment-124121</link>
		<dc:creator>Stop The ACLU &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Petraeus To Recommend Troop Reduction</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 02:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Indeed&#8230;while I&#8217;m sure the critics will focus on the fact that we&#8217;re stretched thin, the surge was a success and that is why it can go back to normal levels. Fight or surrender? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Indeed&#8230;while I&#8217;m sure the critics will focus on the fact that we&#8217;re stretched thin, the surge was a success and that is why it can go back to normal levels. Fight or surrender? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sister Toldjah &#187; September: A big month on the homefront for the Iraq war</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/09/04/which-path-will-we-take-win-or-surrender/comment-page-1/#comment-124118</link>
		<dc:creator>Sister Toldjah &#187; September: A big month on the homefront for the Iraq war</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 02:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Critical reports are out. Petraeus&#8217; recommendations will be forthcoming in a few days. War protests and counter protests will be held in DC over the course of the next two weeks. Michelle Malkin has the details here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Critical reports are out. Petraeus&#8217; recommendations will be forthcoming in a few days. War protests and counter protests will be held in DC over the course of the next two weeks. Michelle Malkin has the details here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: general company</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/09/04/which-path-will-we-take-win-or-surrender/comment-page-1/#comment-124111</link>
		<dc:creator>general company</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 01:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And tinhats, Great thread very enjoyable read. Fight on</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And tinhats, Great thread very enjoyable read. Fight on</p>
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		<title>By: ajmontana</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/09/04/which-path-will-we-take-win-or-surrender/comment-page-1/#comment-124107</link>
		<dc:creator>ajmontana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 01:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Better get you&#039;re energy drink ready for his answer bear, remember he&#039;s armed with kool-aid. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Better get you&#8217;re energy drink ready for his answer bear, remember he&#8217;s armed with kool-aid. <img src='http://s.michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-content/themes/mm/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: NoisyRoom.net &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Noisy News Around the Web - 09/04/2007&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/09/04/which-path-will-we-take-win-or-surrender/comment-page-1/#comment-124101</link>
		<dc:creator>NoisyRoom.net &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Noisy News Around the Web - 09/04/2007&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 00:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Which path will we take: Fight or surrender? - Michelle Malkin [...]</description>
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		<title>By: bear1909</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/09/04/which-path-will-we-take-win-or-surrender/comment-page-1/#comment-124092</link>
		<dc:creator>bear1909</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 00:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lgm#86&lt;blockquote&gt;In Iraq, the situation is similar or worse than the situation of two years ago. Violence is up, government is down.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Would you do me a simple favor and explain this position?  Especially the &quot;similar to worse&quot; conclusion.  And the &quot;violence is up&quot; conclusion.

And, finally, why do you see it to be relevant to compare two entirely different geopolitical situations such as WW2 and the Iraq War?

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lgm#86<br />
<blockquote>In Iraq, the situation is similar or worse than the situation of two years ago. Violence is up, government is down.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Would you do me a simple favor and explain this position?  Especially the &#8220;similar to worse&#8221; conclusion.  And the &#8220;violence is up&#8221; conclusion.</p>
<p>And, finally, why do you see it to be relevant to compare two entirely different geopolitical situations such as WW2 and the Iraq War?</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: lgm</title>
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		<dc:creator>lgm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 00:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: WWII.  I (and others) bring it up for several reasons.

We felt in December 1941 that our existence was threatened and responded accordingly.  Our tiny response today is an indication that we are not threatened in nearly the same way, Bush rhetoric notwithstanding.  Iraq is a war of choice, not necessity.  

WWII sets a time scale for wars.  In 1942 we were being chased across the Pacific.  Two years later we were doing the chasing.  In Iraq, the situation is similar or worse than the situation of two years ago.  Violence is up, government is down.

The US entered WWII in December 1941 and the war ended in September 1945, a little under 4 years later.  The Iraq war started in March 2003.  Four years later in March 2007, it was not close to being over.  That&#039;s the comparison.  You can debate it, but it is not completely stupid, as some posters say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: WWII.  I (and others) bring it up for several reasons.</p>
<p>We felt in December 1941 that our existence was threatened and responded accordingly.  Our tiny response today is an indication that we are not threatened in nearly the same way, Bush rhetoric notwithstanding.  Iraq is a war of choice, not necessity.  </p>
<p>WWII sets a time scale for wars.  In 1942 we were being chased across the Pacific.  Two years later we were doing the chasing.  In Iraq, the situation is similar or worse than the situation of two years ago.  Violence is up, government is down.</p>
<p>The US entered WWII in December 1941 and the war ended in September 1945, a little under 4 years later.  The Iraq war started in March 2003.  Four years later in March 2007, it was not close to being over.  That&#8217;s the comparison.  You can debate it, but it is not completely stupid, as some posters say.</p>
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		<title>By: DesertLover</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/09/04/which-path-will-we-take-win-or-surrender/comment-page-1/#comment-124027</link>
		<dc:creator>DesertLover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 20:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bear1909 

LOL ... no idea where that thought came from ... but suddenly ... there it was ... just couldn&#039;t resist ... :o</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bear1909 </p>
<p>LOL &#8230; no idea where that thought came from &#8230; but suddenly &#8230; there it was &#8230; just couldn&#8217;t resist &#8230; <img src='http://s.michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-content/themes/mm/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: bear1909</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/09/04/which-path-will-we-take-win-or-surrender/comment-page-1/#comment-124022</link>
		<dc:creator>bear1909</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 20:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DesertL:  8)  nothin like backin up against one a Eule&#039;s ol trees and gettin my big bear back scratch on 8)

the simple things are best</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DesertL:  <img src='http://s.michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-content/themes/mm/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' />  nothin like backin up against one a Eule&#8217;s ol trees and gettin my big bear back scratch on <img src='http://s.michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-content/themes/mm/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>the simple things are best</p>
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		<title>By: DesertLover</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/09/04/which-path-will-we-take-win-or-surrender/comment-page-1/#comment-124017</link>
		<dc:creator>DesertLover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 20:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jrlingreenbay

;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jrlingreenbay</p>
<p> <img src='http://s.michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-content/themes/mm/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: jrlingreenbay</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/09/04/which-path-will-we-take-win-or-surrender/comment-page-1/#comment-124016</link>
		<dc:creator>jrlingreenbay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 20:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a reference straight outta the &#039;way-back&#039; machine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a reference straight outta the &#8216;way-back&#8217; machine.</p>
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		<title>By: DesertLover</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/09/04/which-path-will-we-take-win-or-surrender/comment-page-1/#comment-124011</link>
		<dc:creator>DesertLover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 20:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bear ... the 21st century answer to Eule Gibbons ... :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bear &#8230; the 21st century answer to Eule Gibbons &#8230; <img src='http://s.michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-content/themes/mm/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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