Despicable, disgusting MoveOn.org Update: GOP calls on Dems to disavow the haters
Update 10:45am Eastern.
U.S. Sen. John Cornyn, a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, this morning called on the Democratic leadership in Congress to condemn the full-page advertisement that appeared this morning in the New York Times suggesting that General David Petraeus is a traitor.
“Every American, including a Washington special interest organization like MoveOn.org, has the right to voice their opinion on the Iraq war. But to suggest that the four-star General leading the fight against al-Qaeda in Iraq has ‘betrayed’ his country is abhorrent.
“General Petraeus has dedicated his life to securing American liberty and protecting his fellow countrymen. He and all who serve under him are fighting al-Qaeda in Iraq to help ensure that we do not have to fight them here at home.
“This is an important moment for the Democratic leadership, which as the New York Times Magazine reported yesterday, has been working closely with MoveOn.org to coordinate opposition to the conflict in Iraq – will Democrats in Congress stand by and say nothing as their liberal allies attack the patriotism of our military commander in Iraq or will they condemn this disgusting personal attack on his character and integrity?
“There should be a full and honest debate on the war on terror. Americans can have that debate because the brave men and women in our military have fought and died to defend that right over the years. But hateful, personal attacks that call our military leaders traitors should be condemned. It is my hope that Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi will disassociate themselves from this attack, condemn it, and cease further coordination with MoveOn.org.”
NOTE: The Politico newspaper reported Friday: “‘No one wants to call [Petraeus] a liar on national TV,’ noted one Democratic senator, who spoke on the condition on anonymity. ‘The expectation is that the outside groups will do this for us.’
National Republican Congressional Committee Chairman Tom Cole issued the following statement today in response to a full-page ad in this morning’s New York Times by the extremist group MoveOn.org:
“It is bad enough that MoveOn.org has been trying to bully Members of Congress into a course of action that most experts believe would lead to catastrophe in Iraq and the death of tens of thousands in a regional sectarian war. But comparing an American general, who has spent his life serving and defending our country, to traitors like Adam Gadahn, Jose Padilla and John Walker Lindh goes too far.
“Moveon.org owes General Petraeus and every American in uniform an apology.
“This is a critical time for the future of our country and we ought to be working together to find a real solution, instead of turning the Iraq war into a political, partisan game. Democrats ought to reflect on whether or not they want their party associated with the tactics of an organization that spends its time, resources and credibility attacking the character of the men and women who defend its right to engage in such egregious activities.”
Congressman Bill Shuster, a member of the House Armed Services Committee, released the following statement on Move-on.org’s attack ad against General David Petraeus:
“Move-on.org’s ad is an outrageous affront to our military commanders and to the men and women under their command. General Petraeus is regarded as a respected, resolute and responsible leader who was unanimously confirmed by the Senate. His perspective on our progress in Iraq should be welcomed with an open mind.
In running this despicable ad, Move-on.org and their facilitators at the New York Times have carried the anti-war fringe to a new low. I call on my Democratic colleagues to put an end to this political theater and reject the ad immediately.
It is well known that Move-on.org holds significant power over Democrats in Congress. If their leadership fails to reject this ad, it will prove to the American people exactly whose interests they are serving in Congress and whether they are more invested in our defeat than our victory in Iraq.”
***
MoveOn.org calls Gen. David Petraeus a traitor. Pete Hegseth reports:
…as General David Petraeus provides his Iraq assessment to Congress–the antiwar group MoveOn.org is running a full-page advertisement in the New York Times under the headline: “General Petraeus or General Betray us? Cooking the books for the White House.”
Let’s be clear: MoveOn.org is suggesting that General Petraeus has ‘betrayed’ his country. This is disgusting. To attack as a traitor an American general commanding forces in war because his ‘on the ground’ experience does not align with MoveOn.org’s political objectives is utterly shameful. It shows contempt for America’s military leadership, as well as for the troops who have confidence in him, as our fellow soldiers in Iraq certainly do.
General Petraeus has served this country for over 35 years with honor, distinction, and integrity. And this is not just about General Petraeus. After all, if General Petraeus is “cooking the books,” then the entire military chain of command in Baghdad, and all the staff, military and civilian, who have been working with General Petraeus are complicit, since Petraeus did not write his report in isolation. They are all, apparently, ‘betray[ing] us.’
MoveOn.org has been working closely with the Democratic congressional leadership –as an article in today’s Sunday New York Times Magazine makes clear. And consider this comment by a Democratic senator from Friday’s Politico: “‘No one wants to call [Petraeus] a liar on national TV,’ noted one Democratic senator, who spoke on the condition on anonymity. ‘The expectation is that the outside groups will do this for us.’
So, veterans who served in Iraq ask the Democratic leaders in Congress: Does MoveOn.org speak for you? Do you agree with MoveOn.org? Or do you repudiate this despicable charge?
Let’s have answers.
Contact info:
Sen. Harry Reid
Washington Office:
528 Hart Senate Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20510-2803
Phone: (202) 224-3542
Fax: (202) 224-7327
Rep. Nancy Pelosi
Washington Office:
235 Cannon House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515-0508
Phone: (202) 225-4965
Fax: (202) 225-8259
Rep. Steny Hoyer
1705 Longworth House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515-2005
Phone: (202) 225-4131
Fax: (202) 225-4300
***
Jim Hoft reminds the Senate of its 81-0 vote approving Gen. Petraeus.
FNC’s Wendell Goler reports that WH spokesman Tony Snow this morning called the ad “boorish and childish and unworthy.”
Byron York weighs in:
In recent years, MoveOn has sought to portray itself as the voice of what Pariser often calls the true American majority. For example, in the summer of 2004 MoveOn teamed with filmmaker Michael Moore to promote Moore’s movie Fahrenheit 9/11. The week before the film premiered, Pariser asked members to sign a pledge to see it during its first weekend; the point, he explained, was not simply to show support for Moore’s picture but to create the impression in the press that Fahrenheit 9/11 was the leading edge of a wave of anti-Bush anger sweeping the country. “We launched this campaign around Fahrenheit 9/11 because to the media, the pundits, and the politicians in power, the movie’s success will be seen as a cultural referendum on the Bush administration and the Iraq war,” Pariser told MoveOn members. “Together, we have an opportunity to knock this ball out of the park.”
Several leading Democrats, including then-Sen. Minority Leader Tom Daschle, showed up at the movie’s Washington premiere. But the connection with MoveOn worried other Democrats. “You’ve got to reject Michael Moore and the MoveOn crowd,” Al From, of the Democratic Leadership Council, remarked, calling MoveOn’s members “elites, people who sit in their basements all the time and play on their computers.” Other critics noticed that MoveOn attracted a membership that was mostly white, well-to-do, far-to-the-left, and not entirely representative of the Democratic party as a whole.
Now, with the “General Betray Us” campaign, those Democrats again face the question: Do they dare to cross MoveOn? Not long after the 2004 elections, Pariser famously said of Democrats, “Now it’s our party. We bought it, we own it, and we’re going to take it back.” The next few days could be crucial in determining whether he was right or not.
See what others have said
Note from Michelle: This section is for comments from michellemalkin.com's community of registered readers. Please don't assume that I agree with or endorse any particular comment just because I let it stand. A reminder: Anyone who fails to comply with my terms of use may lose his or her posting privilege.
Trackbacks
- Captain's Quarters
- Who Exactly Is Betraying Us? at Conservative Times--Republican GOP news source.
- Democrats Had Better Do The Right Thing | PeteRepublic.org
- Michelle Malkin » Showdown in the Senate: Petraeus/Crocker testimony
- Closing Their Ears to The Truth « Tai-Chi Policy
- Old War Dogs
- Reverse_Vampyr
- Do Democrats stand by Move On or Denounce them?-UPDATE- Petraeus Speech/Statement at Conservative Times--Republican GOP news source.
- Swiftboated Again « his vorpal sword
- Public Secrets: from the files of the Irishspy
- When the Dam Breaks, the Dems will fall | BitsBlog
- Keith D. Milby :: blog » Blog Archive » democrats - liberals - traitors
- MOVEON.ORG SLITHERS TO A NEW LOW « Texas Hold ‘Em Blogger
- The Unalienable Right » CNN: "Dems join GOP in slamming ad attacking Petraeus" Uh, not quite
- Moveon.org: no surprise there | Musing
- The Effort to Destroy General Petraeus at Forward Deployed
- Neocon News » Petraeus Testimony: House Edition
- Michelle Malkin » Vandalism. Desecration. Cowardice. Coddling. Enough is enough.
- Sierra Faith
- The Fighting GOP
- Flopping Aces
- This ain’t Hell, but you can see it from here » How NOT to support the troops
- The Road to Surfdom » Blog Archive » This week in WingnutWorld, USA
- Rush-ing to Judgement « Brain Wars
- Michelle Malkin » The MoveOn presidential candidate seal of approval
- Michelle Malkin » Dick Cavett: yet another liberal dazzled by Petraeus’ shiny medals
- Michelle Malkin » MoveOn’s definition of “hurting the country”
- politicalpartypoop.com » Blog Archive » Moronic dolts at MoveOn retarded definition of “hurting the country”
- Michelle Malkin » The Democrat Party platform’s hidden Soros Slush Fund
Comments
You must be logged in to post a comment.
Categories: They don't support the troops
Confederate Yankee
» Shocker: L.A. Progressive Writer Who Smeared Palin as a Racist and Sexist is a Life-Long Liberal With a Severe Hatred of Republicans
TigerHawk
» The bogus banned books listPower Line
» Perspectives on the Palin pickLittle Miss Attila
» That New McCain AdPatterico
» Why We Need to Link Andrew SullivanJustOneMinute
» Seeing Is Not BelievingJustOneMinute
» Sweetheart DealWeekly Standard
» Anatomy of a Smear
MoveOn’s ever-increasing anti-Americanism has reached an astonishing new low.
I think they have it wrong. It’s the Democrats and the liberal left who are betraying this country. Why else would Osama Bin Laden be cheering for the Democrats to win more seats in congress? The friends you keep tell volumes of your alliances and loyalty to country…
So now is the time for people to contact their congressmen and ask; Does moveon.org speak for you or are you going to publically denounce this attack on a fine soldier who is doing his job on the ground?
Sadly; I already know the answer from the dhimicrats
There has to be a breaking point among the American people with this kind of anti-American crap. As bad as it is, I hope the Dems keep associating themselves with it like they have been doing.
As #2 said, what American would want to vote for someone who OBL and groups like MoveOn support???
I posted about this under the document drop a couple of days ago. The Left is angry we are winning so now they are going after the American Military Service People. They are going to try and Villianize the Troops. I don’t think this is going to work. This is an all volunteer military no draft. People have not forgotten 9/11 as much as the Left would like us to and tomorrow is the Anniversary. I think Move.on made a BIG TIMING MISTAKE. I think Americans who can see through this, ought to be calling, writing and emailing all their representatives. There should be something mentioned in both houses of Congress about this “Behavior” by Move.On.
Move.on purpose is a POWER GRAB, they are not the least bit concerned about the American People. Who does Move.on think makes up the American Military? Our Familys,Friends and Neighbors. BAD MOVE- MOVE.ON–Please Move on.
Most Americans know that Gen. Petraeus is a genuine hero. In 2008, this MoveOn slander will result in Americans saying MoveOnHillary, MoveOnObamaHussein, etc…
Today is going to be an interesting day to say the least. I predict the Dems once again will shoot themselves in the foot and spew more rhetoric based on agenda rather than truths and facts. You will be able to tell their responces were written well before this report was in their possession. Listen carefully when “Tommy” Reid, Kennedy and Pelosi are ranting like a chimp that just had his bunch of bananas taken away from him.
The more you stoke the flames of disgust about Moveon.org, the more attention will be given to this trash by democrats. Let this filth just lie there and decompose.
#2 and #4
I agree most Americans would not want someone liked by OBL and such … the problem is the MSM will never present that fact to the general public … as a result many will not realize that is what and who they are voting for …
MoveOn has “stars in their courses.”
They believe in their own “invincibility”. It will be their own undoing.
The sight of that ad is a vulgarity which doesn’t sit well with the people MoveOn.org needs to influence.
MoveAmericaForward is reaching out to people all the way to Washington DC as the latest caravan “moves on”.
The majority of everyday Americans know how much treasure we are spending on the Iraq War- and it will not be squandered by sycophant trust funders on the Left yearning to relive their “glory” from the era of Vietnam.
Would someone please pull George Soros’ plug?
Anyone see Montel Williams on Fox and Friends this morning? He said General Petreaus was one of the greatest leaders in our time. Floored me. I thought, buy out Montel’s contract and have him replace Geraldo IMMEDIATELY.
Yeah, if you’re a Democrat, it’d be to your benefit not only to distance yourself from the same rhetoric espoused by Osama Bin Laden but to actually realize your anti-American attitude is not going to win you the White House in 2008.
I strongly believe the Democrats are so cavalier that our pointing this out to them won’t matter, but I only hope they keep it up because Americans are going to realize that it’s not smart to vote for people who sound the same as the world’s most prominent terrorist.
I know pornography when I see it.
I worked personally with Gen. Petraeus during OIF I and consider him to be the best general officer in the past 50+ years. I sincerely hope that conservatives everywhere will spread this story around and show the MoveOn types on the left for who they are.
The Petraeus Report will spell the end of Joe Biden’s “presidential bid”.
Biden’s lame critique of the General in advance of testimony is just plain foul.
On the Morning Show here on KSFO with Lee Rogers and Melanie Morgan, Bryan Sussman wondered aloud: “I wonder who wrote Biden’s commentary?”
I don’t think our Founders intended this kind of crap when they created the right to free speech and freedom of the press. This isn’t dissent, it’s treason.
I think this printed poison would have gotten you into a noose back then. They must be turning in their graves.
MoveOn is a good name for a laxative. They’ve raised such a stink now it’s time to flush them!
I saw this insult floated out on Kos a few months ago. They just love to see themselves as clever. Its really pathetic. They have the balls to say “Support the Troops” and in the same breath call a man dedicated to serving his country, and in case they forgot, one of the Troops, a traitor and a liar.
The Liberal agenda on when they Support the Troops
only if:
a) are veterans against the war
b) complete liars and fabricators (Scott Beauchamp)
c) are silent and unheard from, because any good Lib will tell you how their just poor, uneducated, taken advantage of kids with no future, just like Markos.
d) vets wounded enough to make a good visual, even if they still believe in the mission.
When does free speech cross over to treason?
Why the hell is the FBI not kicking down moveon.org doors seizing their computers, records, and frog marching their personnel (and their #1 benefactor) to interrogation rooms and then to holding cells with no change of bail? Where is the IRS to revoke their tax exempt status and freeze their assets? When will the DOJ start to issue subpoenas for treason and sedition? They have gone too far for this old veteran today and the lack of action by this Administration is almost as sickening as the bout with the flu I am fighting this morning.
Boomer
Although I agree with your thinking we all know it would be forgotten immediately afterwards … how else can one explain that “Cold Cash” Jefferson is still in office and has yet to have any criminal proceedings started against him? …
All,
What are the chances that the same people who are part of Daily Kos are exactly the same people who are part of Move on. It is an Internet Trick to make yourself look like you have a larger following then you actually have. Double up and post to both orgs.
Disgusting and childish. And the response from the Dhimmicrats? Crickets chirping… I am sure that Petraeus has a very thick skin — he would never have made it to this point without one — but it just makes me sick when I see brave, honorable people dragged down by those who are not fit to walk on the same ground.
Well, I called all three Democrat “leaders:”
Pelosi’s office: “Yeah, yeah, hold on, you can leave a message.”
Reid’s office: Switched me to his mailbox.
Hoyer’s office: Listened politely to my entire spiel but had no idea what I was talking about. Had to tell him all about the ad and what it said. Incredible.
Yet another new low for the Democratic Party. If they do not respond to this, they will do their party harm they might never recover from. I think the Democrats who are proclaiming major Republican losses in 2008 are declaring victory far too early. More of this treachery and who will want any Democrat in office?
I noted while shopping for a Halloween costume last week, the store had plenty of hippie costumes and not a single military one.
It’s obvious whom the American public respects, and it ain’t the Moveon crew!
Bin Laden doesn’t even like the Demoncraps!
Wow! There’s a real twist on the “birds of a feather flock together” quote-if there ever was one!
Guess he is not happy with the way his cohorts are running things huh?
Speaks volumes when Bin’s mad at the loons!
They’re sinking lower than Binny…at least it appears that way.
I only hope the majority of the American voters realize how dangerous MoveOn.Org, George Soros and the democrats who align with them really are.
You’ll NOT see Reid, Pelosi and Hoyer denounce anything.
You are hereby cited for a double-redundancy violation.
Sincerely,
Inspector 1328,
Dept. of Redundancy Department
MM Friends, Here is your GOOD news story for today (that you will not see from the MSM and will probably never be in newsprint). This is a shining example of how GEN Petraeus is having us win through “hearts and minds.” http://news.soc.mil/UNS-CI/News%20stories/Archives/2007/August/070828-01.html We are moving on…indeed!
The Democrats have no shame.
But but … Freedoms under bushhitlerhaliburton has decreased! I know its true because the Left laments about it all the time.
There is a line separating freedom of speech and treason. I believe that line has been crossed. Not only that, these idiots are attacking the very man and institution that guarantees their freedom to spew such bile and nonsense.
If the general public cannot see that, I have lost my faith in humanity.
Thanks SFWIFE.
Have we checked Soros’ house? Chances are we’ll find BInny these making tapes
There. Sorry
This is the product of the lowest form of politics. These people have crossed the line, and I hope there will be a backlash like they have never seen before. Something on the order of the immigration revolt. MoveOn, and their Democrat flunkies need to hear from us loud and clear. This will not stand.
Maha Rushie just tore the Democrats a new one!
He asks:
” Who the hell made Diane Feinstein a military expert to be held above Generals who have served our country for decades?!?”
That is a good question. He asked the same about “Slow Joe” Biden also.
Why should anyone listen to what these hacks have to say about this war? They have been wrong at every turn, and they want defeat in “Bush’s War”, so they can win in ‘08. Well, I’ve got news for you libs, it’s AMERICA that is fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan, not the Republican Party!!
Are you on board with AMERICA or not?
I hearby challenge their patriotism.
Hello, GOP? Are you cutting and pasting this stuff in your playbook for ‘08? Are you going to do everything within your power to hang the MoveOn.org albatross around the necks of the Democrats? Hammer it home to the American people that Soros basically runs the party now and you don’t want this guy’s influence anywhere near the White House? Please tell me you are…
Bad enough to insinuate that the General is a “traitor” because they presume that he’s not going to given them the result they want.
Worse, what kind of mind finds making fun of a man’s name - “Betray us” ??? - persuasive? I have pre-adolescent nieces and nephews who engage in this kind of “debate.”
And this is just rich:
Uh-huh. And when the dummy starts spewing profanities, I won’t make any connection to the ventriloquist, no… except perhaps to wonder which one is giving the orders?
Must be exasperating to be a lefty these days. You want the Democrats to hurry up and surrender, only to have Osama bin Laden stepping on all your best script lines.
Everybody knows who these “outside groups” are connected to, and what their agenda is. Let’s play pin the tail on the Donkey ’til Nov. ‘08.
They are not patriots, they hate America and want to turn our country into the equivalent of a socialist loser who never gets any and lets everyone else walk all over him.
Who,in their right mind,listens to Move on?This is why George “soreass”is si sore.To many crappy movements!
Petraeus clearly is acting more like a politician than a general. His “report” was written by the White House. In this sense, he has betrayed the trust the American people put in him. They trusted him to give an honest nonpolitical report, which he is not doing.
As for the hyperventilating right: there is a difference between “betraying a trust” and “treason”. When Bill Clinton lied about Monica Lewinski, he betrayed a trust but did not commit treason. The moveon.org ad did not use the word treason, probably for this reason.
desertdweller asked:
Calling Petraeus a traitor (if they had, which they didn’t) might be slander, but it is not treason. The punishment is a lawsuit, not jail.
I am a little surprised that even the NY Times would print something like that. This is definately a new low for the Times.
One has to wonder whether their financial condition is driving them from being the newpaper it was to a rag for the Soros-supported lunatic fringe.
#44 - LGM - where’s your proof? The MSM? I think you made a right turn when you came to this site - I think you wanted to make a left to moveon.org…
LGM wrote: “Petraeus clearly is acting more like a politician than a general. His “report” was written by the White House.”
Clueless witless maroon! CONGRESS aasked the WHITE HOUSE to issue a report and to present it to CONGRESS. They did not ask Petraeus, because they cannot do so, under the Constitutional Separation of Powers.
“In this sense, he has betrayed the trust the American people put in him.”
I repeat: you are a clueless BUFFOON who hasn’t even bothered to know the FACTS. See above!!!!
“They trusted him to give an honest nonpolitical report, which he is not doing.”
Ass-hat!!! HOW DO YOU KNOW??? The report hasn’t been issued yet.
You call yourself a math teacher, when you lack elementary but essential skills such as curiosity, accuracy and honesty.
I pity your poor students.
They’re worried, because Petraeus can get the job done and that won’t fit their meme, and they will look like utter fools.
Naturally this was in the NY Times. I’ll bet if you wanted to take out an ad calling Jane Fonda a traitor they’d turn you down.
LGM = loose gums machine
Took a U turn huh?
I understand the need for civility but when are the republicans going to call a spade a spade. If the democrats aren’t treasonous and America’s enemy, show me the difference between them and Bin Laden.
But…but…but, you can’t say that. OK, just show me the difference in the two and I’ll resend my accusation. Until then, my sense is they are allied against a common enemy, America!
Traitor is too strong. But if he is pressured into saying that the surge is working, what should we call it? Seems like his report has been written for him and the decision has been made.
#51: “Traitor is too strong. BUT IF he is pressured into saying that the surge is working, what should we call it? SEEMS LIKE his report has been written for him and the decision has been made.”
(emphasis mine)
Again, I ask HOW DO YOU KNOW???? The SENATE approved this guy 81 - zip last January. Do you really think that if General P were a pushover, they would have done that?
So where’s your evidence? STAND and DELIVER! or STFU.
Why are people so certain that General Petraeus hasn’t written the report himself? Because it doesn’t tell them what they want to hear? Because they listen to arm chair generals and ascribe more authority to them than to the real four star generals?
It boggles the mind.
OBL and the democrat party have 98% of the same talking points (only in taxing do they differ). OBL has proclaimed himself to be an enemy of the USA and democracy in general.
If it talks like a terrorist and walks like a terrorist organization then …..
gayle said:
hmmm … I thought it meant:
lacking genetic material …
Desert; we have to show the love, remember???? LOL!
#52, I could easy as you where you evidence is that the books have not been cooked. This White House has a history of at best incompetence and at worst falsehoods and deceptions. The default here that they are WRONG on things unless proven otherwise.
#57, eaglehaslanded, please preview what you are about to post for all of our sakes.
Really, what does “#52, I could easy as you where you evidence…” mean?
#57
This White House? You mean unlike that “I did not have sex with that woman” administration? See what I just did there?
Uhm, you obviously do not read milblogs do you? Michael Yon? Guess not. You seem to be under the impression that General Petraeus is a lackey of the White House. You can’t seem to grasp the fact that maybe, maybe he is a soldier who doesn’t give a rat’s @ss about partisan politics and wants to get the job done.
This is for you lgm:
Either you admit this is Gen. Petreaus speaking his mind, or you are calling him a liar. Put up or shut up.
That’s from the front page of this site, by the way.
57#: “I could easy as you where you evidence is that the books have not been cooked.”
A remarkably stoopid comment, worthy of Mike Nifong. You are obviously his intellectual equal, sirrah!
Clues: YOU are making accusations based on NO evidence. You are not free to defame a general based on no evidence. My pointing out that you have no evidence does not create an obligation on my part to refute YOUR evidence-free accusation.
You are free to believe the default position is that the WH is WRONG. But if you want to avoid being revealed as a fool on this forum, you need to offer something more substantive than “they were wrong before” as a basis for defaming a 4-star general, a decorated war veteran who the senate confirmed to his position by an 81 - 0 vote.
Finally, I “could just as easy as you where you evidence is that” you don’t bugger goats every day. Get back to me when you can “prove” you don’t.
Haha. Bugger off with that bloody rubbish, wanker. God Save the Queen!
A reader who doesn’t have posting privileges asked me to relay this excellent letter to his Senator:
Senator Klobuchar,
This morning, an ad by the political special interest organization “Moveon.org” was printed in the New York Times. As I’m sure you are aware, this ad implied that General David Patraeus is somehow a traitor to his country.
After 35 years of service to his country, I would hope that people would realize that General Patraeus has served this country with distinction, under both Democratic and Republican Administrations. The man simply has a job to do, and it serves neither the military, veterans, the United States, nor the Democratic Party to slander him in this way.
I personally believe in the God-given right of every American to voice his or her opinion. In fact, I personally served my country to make certain that every American will always have that right. However, I view this attack ad as a vile attempt to slander an American serviceman and veteran who has selflessly given over 35 years of his life to this country.
As one of my representatives in the Senate, I would like to ask you the following:
1) Do you subscribe to the opinion of Moveon.org that General David Patraeus is a traitor to his country?
2) Do you now, or have you ever received a campaign donation or any sort of campaign or political assistance from the Moveon.org organization?
3) If your answer to question #1 is “No,” and your answer to question #2 is “Yes,” would you agree to return or refuse any assistance from Moveon.org now and/or in the future?
Sincerely,
Joel ****
to Brian72:
Wanker?
Thank you for your intellecually rich post.
Sod off. You…. sod.
May I point out to some posting that the General is providing “testimony” … the “report” is coming later from the White House per the original instructions passed by Congress … General Petraeus testimony is a totally different issue from the report …
I served 20 years in the Military (5 in the Navy, and 15 in the Air National Guard), and it always struck me how much of a contrast there was between how liberals described the military (RE: war criminal John Kerry et al); and what I actually saw with my own eyes, and what we were taught (to have integrity, and never to violate the rules).
These liberals (e.g. MoveOn.org, Daily KOS, etc) are nothing more than apes and pigs.
(Oh wait, the liberals’ pals call us “apes” and “pigs”! Sorry!)
Written by the White House? How do you know that? Are you more knowledgeable about what is going on than Gen. Petraeus?
You should get your information from honest, objective people, rather than from the DailyKos traitors. Unless, that is, you’re a traitor yourself…
For the life of me I cannot not decipher what “eaglehaslanded” means by this:
What you want me i go do with this?
It make me no never mind ennahway.
Is this an oltomato or sumthin?
What really happened on the Kahulawassee?
Plinka-ka-plinka! Doo-doo-doo-dee-dee-dah-dah-dah-dah! Plinka-ka-plinka!
hey! ever-body nodes zat Rove writed dat report. ennit so, eaglehaslanded?
The Left’s punch bowl has a big Baby Ruth floating in it at the moment.
A Commanding General is addressing Congress on the facts of the situation on the ground in Iraq.
Do they really think that the American people will believe the allegation they are making, that a Commanding General is perjuring himself before Congress in order to protect a lame duck President?
The Left’s problem here is that they are acting like 8th graders in a playground dispute. And that does disservice to all 8th graders out there who don’t hate their parents and are learning life’s lessons on life’s terms.
The Left is not a student of the military of the United States. They have, most of them at least, never toured military facilities, gone to see training bases in action,tured a military academy or come within 2 continents of a battle zone.
They believe that generals sit around in tents like “Sting” describes the mythical do-nothing generals of European forces in WW1.
In short, they know not enough to control their imaginations when lying. So they sound like silly school boys and girls making sh*t up just so they have something to say.
I think Rick Moran’s friend has the right idea: force politicians to take a stand, identify their position relative to the position of George Soros and his monkies, and declare how much, if any, money have they received from these rats.
Deprive them of our well-intentioned spite: it’s what they feed on. Mock their ignorance and count the days until they are publically shamed and humiliated.
Onward.
The Democrats don’t have the coverage to condemn it. At best they will try to disaccociate themselves while apologetically conceding free speech.
From the LA Times
Bush said Petraeus would give him, and the American people, a honest assessment of the situation in Iraq. Then Bush wrote the honest assessment himself. Congress approved Petraeus he promised to be nonpolitical. Now he gives interviews only to Fox News. That is a betrayal.
lgm, you are betraying your liberal friends by commensurating with US HEATHENS. Right?
Gives interviews with FOX? Wonder why.
Most viewers perhaps?
Unlike the Democrats, Petraeus isn’t afraid to speak with Fox News.
lgm’s standards of “betrayal” again reveal him to be a moonbat and a flake.
Petraeus has given interviews to PBS’s Jim Lehrer, to MSNBC, to CBS’s Katie Couric just two weeks ago (she called him a “straight shooter”), to ABC’s George Stephanopolous, to Brian Williams on NBC.
But AFTER SPEAKING FIRST TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE VIA TELEVISED CONGRESSIONAL TESTIMONY today, Petraeus gives Fox News an “exclusive” tonight, so he’s….. betrayed America!!
Free clue, lgm: what if Petraeus gives an exclusive interview to CNN’s Blitzer or the MSM tomorrow? Should people who want the US to win the Iraq war call that “betrayal” too? Do you understand now what a f*ckwit you are?
Let’s sum things up:
Flake, as in ignorant of, or loose with, the facts.
Offers unsupported assertions based on “standards” he makes up as he goes along.
Unwilling to admit error when called out, instead changes the subject.
Poor reasoning power in a so-called “math educator”.
Not good signs for his students.
QED
People -PEOPLE
Do not feed the troll. It will only hurt your head. It is akin to:
Like that is ever going to happen.
When you try to reason with a troll (or a liberal) you get dain bramage.
But…my damage is not brained!!
BRING THEM HOME NOW.
Now what are you prepared to do?….”Oh I know, I will write a blog piece and then go on Bill O to talk about it” says Michelle. “I’m gonna say they are disgusting tonight on my show” says Sean Hannity…”I won’t do anything but look in the mirror and count my money” says Limbaugh, “I think I will tell everyone listening to my show what thay already know” says Bill O….And what will you do Ms. Madea? ” Oh were gonna disrupt the scum and get on TV, then were gonna march in 50 cities and hold vigils, and mobilize the party just like in 06…. and then go on Bill O’s show after we get more soldiers and Iraqis killed so we lose and they have to come home”…and how bout you Move On? “Oh were gonna spend 500,000 for a full page ad in the times…to try to get more of those boys and girls killed in Iraq maybe the rest can come home.” And what about you hollyweird…”Were gonna lie and slam America and the troops in hopes that more will die so the rest can come home”
American war dead…
Democrats and fringe….0
Conservatives….4144 and counting…
Good job there people…For 4 years soldiers and civilians have been dying and the friggin Dems control the agenda, media and every other thing. Bush is a weakling, wimp like his old amn and our sons and daughters, mothers and fathers are dyingbecause the pulpit on our side wont take the fight to them. If this is the best support we got, if this is all there is, blogs and night after friggin night of Bill O and Hannity..I say …BRING THEM HOME NOW.
Once again I agree wholeheartedly with the great bear! However, I picture 8th graders as exhibiting pubertal rantings against their parents, teachers, and other authorities. I picture the democraps more as believing that they are the only authority and behaving like 2nd graders throwing screaming tantrums
when they don’teven when they DO get their way.dartagnans_blade
(rosie is in the house)
I have read some of your posts Gayle…don’t even bother, I am way out of your league
…is not a rebuttal to the facts.
The only fact is your side want to lose at any cost…period.
Thats about it when it comes to facts. Do you really want anyone to believe what moveon has put out there? It’s like saying I’m not wet as the water drips off your nose. The three Main “independent reports” are not about violence so much as they are about political situations and benchmarks. The Lancet said 500,000 died because of sanctions and people like movon ran with that garbage until truly “independent” studies debunked that crap. The pond scum that is moveon cares not one iota about Iraq, its people or truth. They care about the system. What they so desperately want to control, at any cost. Live with that ahole, you are siding with people who want dead soldiers and Iraqis. When you look yourself in the mirror realize that, you are on the side that wants the US to lose for political purpose and only political purpose….nothing more nothing less. And don’t give me this garbage about Bush and war…It’s a choice many presidents have had tpo make and right or wrong he made it. Only history will judge him.
So do not strut around with you garbage about what you don’t know…suck it up
This is a particularly propitious time for this quote:
“We’ve come to a moment in our history when party labels are unimportant. Philosophy is all important. Little men with loud voices cry doom, saying little is good in America. They create fear and uncertainty among us. Millions of Americans, especially our own sons and daughters, are seeking a cause they can believe in. There is a hunger in this country today-a hunger for spiritual guidance. People yearn once again to be proud of their country and proud of themselves, and to have confidence in themselves. And there’s every reason why they should be proud. Some may have failed America, but America has never failed us, and there is so much to be proud of in this land.”
–Ronald Reagan