Vandalism. Desecration. Cowardice. Coddling. Enough is enough.
Update 9/13 10:30am. Just received an email from reader Dave…
On Saturday, September 15, the Nam Knights of America Motorcycle Club, a U.S. military veteran and law enforcement MC, will provide security at the Vietnam Memorial and the Vietnam Nurses Memorial in Washington, D.C. as part of the larger counter demonstation to that of ANSWER. (www.freestate-nk.org) or (www.namknights.org)
If you are interested in learning more about us, I invite you to come to visit us on Saturday. The bulk of the activity, as you know, will take place between the White House and the Capitol building at the other end of the Mall, but we and the Gather of Eagles organization, feel that we need to cover this flank.
Bravo.
Update 9/13 10:15am. I have been asking you to be in Washington on Saturday to answer the ANSWER mob. I have been reporting on their disruptive plans and die-ins. I’ve reported before on the vandalism at military recruiting centers. They are going to do it again:
A week of events meant to crank up a national demonstration against the war in Iraq is set to begin Saturday, with a 1,000-person “die-in” at the U.S. Capitol led by current and former American troops and accompanied by taps and a mock 21-gun salute. The die-in will be the culmination of a march and rally. Organizers hope the event will spur people in the antiwar movement to move from protesting to performing acts of civil disobedience that “get in the way of the war machine,” said Brian Becker, national coordinator of the ANSWER Coalition, at a news conference yesterday at the National Press Club. The group’s permit with the U.S. Park Police is for 10,000 people, a source said, but ANSWER, which stands for Act Now to Stop War and End Racism, expects tens of thousands, Becker said. More than 1,000 people had signed up on the group’s Web site as of yesterday to lie down at the die-in, he said, which is meant to represent Americans, Iraqis and others who have died in the war. Organizers expect the number to double or triple by Saturday. Daily antiwar events are planned from Saturday through Friday. War opponents are scheduled to go to Washington area military recruitment centers Monday to try to shut them down. War opponents are scheduled to go to Washington area military recruitment centers Monday to try to shut them down…
Enough is enough.
Update 9/13 9:50am Eastern. More war memorials damaged and defaced. (hat tip - Murdoc)
Enough is enough.
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Bryan Preston and I went down to Washington to document the recent damage at the Vietnam War Memorial, first reported by Free Republic members. Photos do not do it justice. Here’s our video:
Transcript of our report:
Over the weekend, something happened here at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial in Washington DC. Something destructive. Something dishonorable. Along the foot of the wall, covering a stretch almost two-thirds of the entire monument, an oily substance was spilled on the panels and paving stones that were built to pay tribute to those who gave their lives on the battlefield.
The National Park Service is investigating. Whatever the substance was, it was potent and corrosive. Huge swaths of the wall have been defaced. This is despicable desecration.
Vietnam Veterans Memorial Fund Founder and President Jan C. Scruggs said “While it is unclear what transpired, we are heartened by the response of the veterans’ community and the general public. After 25 years, their connection to The Wall remains as strong as ever, and we appreciate that.”
This vandalism comes on the eve of a massive anti-war protest by radicals who have threatened our national monuments before. Those threats motivated veterans, Rolling Thunder members, and military supporters to organize the first Gathering of Eagles. On Saturday, they’ll be back…to protect the honor of the troops and the sacred monuments and war memorials in the nation’s capital.
We’ll be there. Will you? Go to gatheringofeagles.org for more information.
What the hell is wrong with people in this country? If this is intentional vandalism, the culprit(s) deserve to be named, punished, and shamed before the nation. In so many other similar instances, we have reaped the rotten fruits of tolerance for thugs who have gotten away with substituting harassment, intimidation, and violence for civil debate and political expression.
There were some initial, unofficial explanations that a “cleaning accident” caused the damage. But that information is unreliable. As we noted in our report, the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Fund says an investigation is ongoing:
On Friday, September 7, National Park Service staff and volunteers discovered a light, oily and unidentified substance that was spilled over portions of some of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial’s panels and paving stones, with National Park Service (NPS) preservation and maintenance staff beginning the removal process immediately.
The United States Park Police has begun an investigation into the matter, and that investigation is ongoing. Until this investigation is completed, it is premature to speculate whether any intentional act was committed.
As you can see from our video, the damage is extensive. Could a “cleaning accident” cause this? What did they use? Murphy’s Cleaning Oil? Would something like that eat through the granite etchings? Because that’s what happened to several panels, not just a few. If it is a “cleaning accident,” we need to hear exactly how such a bone-headed thing could happen after 25 years.
Also: If you look here, past volunteers are shown cleaning the wall from top to bottom.
There is no damage on the top of the panels. Strange. The damage we videotaped has the appearance of a substance being thrown and splashed. One panel had distinctive splash marks in an arc at roughly elbow-level…it looked like it was tossed, not dripped or sponged.
If anyone out there has experience working with granite and cleaning substances, please chime in.
*10:03pm Eastern update:* A reader e-mails:
My husband & I own a natural stone fabrication business in Houston.
I have been to the Vietnam War Memorial and if memory serves me it is constructed of black basalt aka black granite. The description of a “light oily” substance and the appearance of the damage might indicate the memorial was defaced using common penetrating oil (think WD-40).
Very few substances will damage granite(s), but thin penetrating oils would do considerable staining. I am confident those responsible for maintenance of the memorial would not have used such a substance. The granite would simply not need “routine” cleaning. At most it might be hosed down with water and possibly scrubbed with mild cleansers every few years but I would hope that this is done by a professional stone restoration company.
Human Events reports:
Anyone who has seen photos or video of the trail of gunk on the black glossy walls would definitely not see it as an accident — but it is true that the circumstances of the spraying are still unknown.
If a particularly twisted individual or group of individuals decided they wanted to deface a national monument that represents some 58,000 fallen warriors, why would they chose a wimpy “light, oily” substance? Wouldn’t you choice a flaming red can of paint? But how this could possibly be an accident?
Col. Harry G. Riley (US Army, Ret.) who is heading up the “Eagles” group — one of the veterans groups coming to Washington to protect the monuments this weekend said “When you see there is some type of a substance on the wall down and on the base for 50 to 60 feet, its pretty hard for me to rationalize how that could be anything other than purposeful…”
“Who ever did this, if they were trying to enrage the Vietnam Veterans, they did,” said Riley. “We have been stomped on and ridiculed and spit on simply because we went when our nation called. It wasn’t that we are pro war — when the nation called we went.”
Vandalism of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial has not occurred since 1989 said Jan Scruggs, who conceived the idea of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial wall and raised the money to have it built 25 years ago.
“Someone put some lighter fluid on one of the directories on Constitution Avenue, lit a fire, and burned a few pages off,” said Scruggs.
Scruggs who is also founder and president of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Fund said that there is a belief that the recent vandalism was motivated by “MoveOn.org type of people” but he hopes that no one is accusing them at this point.
“I just can’t image that this was an organized activity or a conspiracy involving more than one deranged person, or that anyone would have done this to score political points for their cause — it would have just the opposite effect.”
Well, we are talking about the same kinds of idiots who thought calling Gen. Petraeus a traitor was a brilliant political strategy and disrupting Congressional hearings was persuasive.
This brief Washington Post article states falsely that the substance has been removed. The WashTimes has a photo of cleaners trying to get it off the wall. They were, as you can see, unsuccessful.
If this doesn’t motivate you to come out on Saturday and join the Eagles, I don’t know what will.
On the opposite coast, in San Francisco, look at this evil deed:
The only local monument to a heroic flight attendant from San Francisco killed in the Sept. 11 attacks six years ago is a North Beach mural that vandals have defaced almost beyond recognition.
Betty Ong, 45, who grew up in Chinatown and North Beach, was a flight attendant on American Airlines Flight 11, the first plane hijacked by the terrorists. Just minutes before the plane smashed into the World Trade Center, she quietly contacted authorities and gave a detailed description of the hijackers.
Ong is one of several Chinatown natives depicted in a 200-foot-long, 7-foot-tall mural dedicated to Chinese contributions to American history. Titled “Gold Mountain,” the mural also includes educators and nurses, Edsel Ford Fong, a waiter made famous by the late Chronicle columnist Herb Caen, and Larry Ching, the “Chinese Frank Sinatra,” who was a longtime entertainer at Forbidden City.
Painted by artist Ann Sherry in 1994 on the side of an apartment building on Romolo Place, the mural has been damaged by taggers numerous times. Each time, Sherry, the building’s owners and community volunteers have stepped up to perform touchups - and twice to restore the mural completely.
A section for Ong was added in 2003, when the mural was restored the second time. Graffiti-resistant varnish was added, too. But almost immediately, the mural was tagged again. Sherry patched up the mural, but since January, taggers have struck several more times. Sherry kept returning to make repairs but recently found the damage to be worse than ever before.
“This time, the taggers used paint (mixed) with epoxy that we can’t just wash out or remove. We have to completely redo the mural,” Sherry said. “We started fixing it … but the taggers get angry if you remove their graffiti and they just tried to ruin it.”
I embedded the audio of Betty Ong’s phone call from AA Flight 11 in my 9/11 post yesterday. Listen to it again as you look at the photos of Ong’s desecrated memorial:
Here’s one last example from Billings, Montana, if you’re not angry enough:
Vandals cut down and burned a U.S. flag in front of a Billings retirement home sometime during the night Monday.
On Tuesday morning, the cover of the book of matches used to start the fire was still attached to the partially burned flag in front of Prairie Tower Apartments.
Dave Kessler and his wife, Judy, arrive at the independent retirement home at 725 N. 25th St. each morning about 7, he said Tuesday.
About 8 a.m., some of the residents alerted Judy that the flag was missing, and she found it in the yard, Dave Kessler said.
The apartment building is home to 119 people.
Resident Joe Jonutis took a flag of his own and hung it in the entrance of the building Tuesday afternoon to replace the damaged flag. Jonutis, 87, is a World War II veteran.
Kessler said he thought the vandalism was a political statement.
“I mean, why now? There has been no similar experience from before,” said Kessler, who has handled the maintenance at Prairie Tower for 13 years. He is a Vietnam War veteran.
The flag is flown 24 hours a day and is lighted, he said.
Vandalism. Desecration. Cowardice. Coddling.
Enough is enough.
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Flashback: Indianapolis military memorial defaced with “peace” graffiti and anti-Bush profanities.
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They just can’t stop spitting on the vets can they?
Outrageous.
Round ‘em up and flog ‘em.
I could not listen and look at the image. I am disgusted.
Please continue to pray for our country.
If I was anywhere close to DC, I’d be there. Unfortunately, being so far away, I’m in no position to go.
But remember folks, we can’t question their patriotism. Oh, no!
They only act in the most despicable manner imaginable and we’re supposed to applaud them for being some noble rebels.
Well, here’s a newsflash. Luke Sykwalker was a rebel.
All these “9/11 truthers”, peaceniks, moonbats, and lefties are nothing more than cowardly ingrates who have their heads so far up their rear ends they can’t think straight.
They deserve to have everything - their patriotism, their motives, their morals, their values - questioned and scrutinized because they are wrong, wrong, wrong and sick, sick, sick.
Obviously, the mural of Betty Ong is provoking the taggers. We should try to find the root causes of their vandalism - probably poverty and despair.
/sarcasm
Even if it isn’t Moveon, they are the enablers. They are the ones who create a climate where such things are possible. Indeed, the perps might very well think they’ll get a round of applause from some lefties.
So sad…
They have no respect.
The phone recording and transcript was gripping, I’d not heard that before. Betty was so calm and professional in such a crisis, I hope they can restore her mural
I wonder if any Congressional elected official will speak about this on the floor of the House or Senate, having it on the record that whomever did this act is dispicable?
If so - bet it won’t be a Dem.
Makes my blood boil.
This is beyond inexcusable.
Betty Ong was a great woman with poise and wisdom on that dark day.
It is that very strength and courage under fire the Left lacks.
Sneaking.
Doing things under the cover of darkness. Hiding behind anonymous ads and costumes.
They like to claim it as some kind of “guerilla-style direct action”, some kind of currency for their “activist” careers.
They will end up dying in a ditch somewhere when this keg finally blows.
They are so convoluted in their value system and how they see themselves in this world; they are blinded with self-pity, juvenile rage, and narcisstic envy of the intelligentsia sychophants who encourage their reptilian behavior.
They are unaware that a new phase of invasion of our Nation is at hand by Jihadis- with the help of the US and Mexican governments.
Mexican trucks are rolling across the southern border *uninspected* now. Do you think any of our enemies are riding to the four corners of this country- armed and dangerous?
Take care of business and stay alert. This is beginning to ramp up.
I’m old enough to remember the Vietnam War as a young teenager, and this is starting to smell like that all over again. The left hasn’t gotten their way by the “we-support-the-troops-not-the-war” mantra, so now they fight dirty. They burn flags in front of nursing homes which they know house men who fought in WWII and Korea. They deface an image of a woman who unknowingly was a vanguard of the struggle with Islamists. And they deface a beloved monument to men and women who served their country when called, who were honored by this monument way too late.
Sociopaths. Every one of them.
“Now what are you prepared to do?”
This has got to stop. Only cowards would do this kind of crap.
Enough is enough.
Yeah? And? We keep saying this and DOING nothing. Our founding fathers DID what needed to be done. We type….
They learned their lesson during Vietnam. They still hate the troops, they just know better than to say it out loud this time.
So they attack the President, the Sec. Def., the General and now the Wall.
Obviously intentional, how can anyone suggest otherwise?
And just as obviously, the perpetrator(s) realized the site would be protected by Eagles during the upcoming anti-war protests. So the cowards struck early, behind everyones’ backs.
My money is on some subgroup of the looney anarchist fringe. They are the ones who most enjoy destruction.
Is anyone familiar with the security there? Surely there is video surveillance. I want to be able to hope the perpetrators can be caught.
Michelle, JWS and everyone else who calls for significant punishment of these cowards are right. It’s time to end the coddling. Poor dumb O’rielly wants to make felons of those who “offend” followers of “the religion of peace”. If that is appropriate, then these SOBs deserve a good caining and a weekend in stocks so the public can “express” themselves with a few well placed veggies.(I can’t believe that there is something lower than people who burn the flag in public. But the above sub-humans are it.)
This is downright disgusting and intolerable. I live in DC. I will be at the GOE rally. Enough is Enough.
Who do these people think they are? They should be so lucky to grace the very Earth that gets stuck under the shoe of an American GI.
Cowardice does not begin to describe it.
I recall that the Vietnam Memorial was the subject of much debate. In the end, what we got was a monument that made no statement about the war, pro or con. A monument that made no political statements about US policy. The monument was a true tribute to those that lost their lives in Vietnam. Nothing more, and nothing less.
A significant number of those 58,000 names were not volunteers who had a choice.
To me, desecrating the Vietnam Memorial in such a manner is no different than defiling the graves of those who died in Vietnam. The people who did this are as vile a breed as this country has ever produced. They have not the character nor backbone to face the light of day, and advance their agenda under the cloak of darkness. The tactics of loathesome cowards lacking in any common shred of human decency. They care not that the life they enjoy and freedoms they possess were secured and protected for them with the blood of the very people they hold in the highest contempt.
I hope and pray they are caught and subjected to the maximum penalty permitted under our laws. Whatever that penalty is, it will not begin to attone for these despicable acts.
Whoever did this should be beaten, drug out to the street, and shot.
The brought back from the dead so we can hang them.
I couldn’t bring myself to listen to Betty Ong’s phone call yesterday…but I forced myself to do it after this.
It was heartbreaking, but a necessary thing to do for her memory. I hope they can restore the mural. I am a muralist, so I know the work that goes into these things. I wish them the best.
God be with all our Vets heading to Washington D.C. I wish I could be there!!!
Blessings,
Ruth in Phoenix
Everyone is beating around the bush. It seems obvious to me that — barring a Revival — we are on a collision course with serious civil strife on a scale surpassing even the race riots of the 60s.
The people who did this remind me of the coward, a few years back, who walked away from a little girl, who was pleading for help just before she was murdered, because he feared for his own safety. Security cameras were the only thing that exposed the killer AND the coward. The coward in that case wasn’t charged for his crimes. I pray that whoever did this attrocity will be shamed into oblivion, but I know that Larry King and the rest of the body-count media would exalt the scum for his or her “courage” to make a statement. May they rot in hell.
runningonfumes,
I don’t think so. The race riots of the 60s had an actual basis in fact: Blacks were sorely abused by the authorities.
These cowards are mad because others are willing to bleed for their “right” to have petulant little tantrums in the dark of night. They are mostly self hating and would never have the nerve to face down a man in uniform. Just look at the pathetic screaming and wailing that went on by the code-pinko weasels during the Patraeus hearings. These people are pathetic and of such a small minority that they will shut up after we experience a Beslan here at home, because no one will want to hear it then.
In compiling and remembering these acts of desecration and dishonor let’s not overlook the vandalism that occurred this year in the Seattle area on Memorial Day.
must repress… evil thoughts…
These are the acts of a few misguided souls… we should seek to
understandcrush them.*ah, well… I tried.
These desecrations are what comes of tolerating Treason.
I hope that when people learn why old traditions were established, such as the price of certain anti-social behavior, which seemed harsh to some, 40 years ago… that by paying the price of ignoring Wisdom, when we finish paying such prices for foolish tolerance of ill-bred Socialists, that we will be smarter than we have been… for the painful lessons of WW2.
Why are we having to learn all this again - the HARD WAY?
I pray this time it sinks in! IN TIME!
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Once we Conservatives get THAT riled, it’ll easily surpass the Civil War.
FOLKS, PLEASE READ GEORGE WILL’S CURRENT COLUMN ABOUT FRED THOMPSON - it involves Freedom of Speech.
I think you seriously misunderstand the nature of the coming conflict, if the Liberals don’t get ahold of themselves and straighten up.
On September 13th, 2007 at 1:44 am, tony the tiger said:
must repress… evil thoughts…
These are the acts of a few misguided souls… we should seek to
understandcrush them.*ah, well… I tried.
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AND YOU SUCCEEDED! BLESS YOUR HEART!
Evil prevails when good men do nothing!
Oh give me a home,
Where this scum doesn’t roam,
On my streeeets,
For the fear of my lead!
Where never is seen,
Such perversions obscene,
Cause we’re sane,
And we honor - our dead
Go, take your -displays,
Of hate, and shove them -sideways,
Right up yer patoot,
And we’ll smash in yer snoot,
Now hold still, while I aim -my Taze!
(yes, this is “pudge”)
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!
Some people say evil does not exist; this desecration adds further evidence to the ongoing testimony to the contrary.
Somehow 2spothipshot, I don’t think runningonfumes was picturing the gutless cowards as the ones in revolt.
We can be judged by what we will tolerate as well as by our actions.
The Sociocrats and their quislings must be vanquished and returned to Hell where they were born. Hitler and his vandals were tolerated for far too long .
Spirit Of America Not Dead In Denver–
“It’s time we as citizens stand up and not wait for another 9/11 and recognize those who are working on a daily basis to preserve our rights as citizens.”
The Colorado State Parade of Honor to be held Saturday.
I think when they catch these cowards they should put them in prison … but not just any prison … how about a military prison so they can serve their sentence alongside some of those military folks they think so lowly of … even the military folks in military prisons are better than these scum …
Are grade school students still required to “Pledge Allegience”? The whole framework of American patriotism is being assaulted daily by the disgusting and immoral Liberals who are permitted to exist in America. Democrats hate Patriotism and military service personel. Martial Law for one week would suit me just fine! Set up HQ’s in the NYT offices and make the staff swab the Head with their vile tongues.
With regard to demonstrations at recent congressional hearings, I find it disgusting that these puke democrats allow these people into the hearing rooms. It’s quite evident what they are up to with their signs,placards, and lettered shirts. Code pink is know for this behavior. Let them demonstrate out on the mall, but not inside congressional buildings.I don’t remember seeing this stuff until recently. Correct me if I’m wrong?
Charles B. Simpson
We don’t need Martial Law … instead let’s put them all under Sharia Law for a week and enforce it just like the terrorists want it enforced (minus the obvious beheadings and such, but pointing out the things that would be justification for that under their new society) … give them a taste of what they seem to want so badly …
The people doing this are the same ones throwing pies at Coulter, defacing Recruiter offices, shouting down Minutemen and generally raising hell. They wrap their faces in bandannas and cause trouble but they have no real opinion as to why they do it other than to spew the garbage taught to them at school.
They have been doing this for years. No one has challenge them. I am amazed it took them this long to start on our most treasured memorials.
“Now what are you prepared to do?”
Im from the Woodstock generation,I’ve known many of that kind,I have friends on that wall.Im in my 30th year of active and reserve time and 2 deployments in this war.My fellow Soldiers and myself are in agreement that a growing number of people in this country are not worth fighting for anymore.Most of them do not have the GUTS to even think of standing up and putting on a uniform.
Not to my knowledge.
When I was in scholl in Kentucky, we not only said the PoA, but sang one of two patriotic songs.
To my shame, I can’t recall what my favorite one of them was. It was shortish, had many verses, and was beautiful.
That was last half of first grade, first half of second grade. When we came back to illinois, I can’t recall saying the Pledge at all.
What a shock.
Granite is generally pretty resistant to chemical attack, but is susceptible to strong acids. Of the acids that are commercially available, the most destructive is probably hydrofluoric acid (HF). The most common commercial application (that I know of) is the cleaning of aluminum truck trailers. These products are usually sold in relatively concentrated form, then diluted and sprayed onto the trailers with a pressure washer. Several such products are manufactured and sold by Zep Manufacturing Company.
Another possibility is hydrochloric acid (HCl). This is commonly sold in hardware stores and building supply outlets as ‘muriatic’ acid and is used to etch concrete floors prior to sealing or painting. It’s less destructive than HF, but probably strong enough to etch the surface of polished granite.
A third possibility is sulfuric acid (H2SO4). It is less destructive to inorganic materials than HF and HCl, bur far more ubiquitous. It is the active ingredient in many household drain openers. Most of these products are ‘passivated’ to mitigate damage to pipes and plumbing fixtures. I’m not sure what effect they might have on polished granite.
All of these products (especially HF) will wreak havock with human tissue. If I were looking for a culprit, I would probably start by talking to area hospitals about recent patients with acid burns.
Fortunately our side has most of the guns.
swj719AWG
When I was in school we not only said the Pledge of Allegiance we recited “The Americans Creed” as well … if you are not familiar with that it can be found here
http://www.homeofheroes.com/hallofheroes/1st_floor/flag/1bfc_creed.html
It is short and to the point …
As for now … I know the pledge is said in the schools here in Phoenix …
in fact one of the local country radio stations (KMLE-FM) goes out to the elementary schools and records classes saying the pledge … they play them back each morning Mon-Fri on air at 08:00 … the kids look forward to being selected to be broadcast …
Anyone read RLH’s StarShip Troopers (not the god awful movie); I would push his idea of a society where Military service is required or citizenship.
We need a good reformation, remove citizenship from those who haven’t earned it.
I am beyond PO’ed at this point need to cool down to get the blood pressure under control. What in the hell is happening in this country. Bad enough to have been spit on and called a baby killer when I first signed up for the US Air Force in 1975, now this from our tolerant brethren from the Peace movement.
Sniper One I am with you and RLH on having to earn the rights of citizenship through Military or some other type of service. The book was great the movie a huge disappointment along with most of the Hollywood crowd.
These anti-war loons are out of control. They are like little babys throwing a temper tantrum. They have no respect and no perspective on what is really important about America.
The damage done to the Vietnam War Memorial is despicable. What an outrageous and disrespectful act…… And they wonder why they are always referred to as “America haters” and as “traitors”.
Sniperone-
I read RLH’s book Starship Troopers and he made some very convincing arguements for the concept of citenship. The book was great, and the movie could have been alot better with out the “love triangle” being mixed in.
Sadly, we would hear immediately that some pc-protected group are having their rights infringed because they were too old to serve, and blah-blah.
I have a neighbor who went to Canada to evade the draft in the early 1970’s. Unfortunately, he was let back in and is now one of the biggest puke left wing activists going. These people just aggravate me to no end. This guy use to send me all kinds of left wing email. I asked him to take me off his list, but the emails kept coming. I then told him to take me his list or I’ld take him to court. Finally, the nonsense stopped.
Edward Gibbon
Chapter 29
The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire
Just a little hopefulness for ya folks, live in CALIFORNIA and was recently forced to put my kid in pubic school for the first time in her life (money issues) and was shocked, shocked I say, to hear the place go quiet while everyone faced the flag and recited the pledge along with a voice on the PA (with hands over heart no less). Her science “teacher” is an atheistic phsyco and another one does the old, “I support the troops, just not the mission that they execute competently with the shedding of their blood”, line of crap.
I’m just saying, this is America and most of us still love the place. There’s just a lot of us that are in a deep snooze while the traitors use it for a toilet.
MM I will be in DC with the Eagles against these moonbats
Check out the article from the post http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/11/AR2007091102020.html?hpid=sec-nation
The commenters on it are calling it a right wing conspiracy. These people are traitors and must be stopped. When the people that committed this war crime are found we need to cover them in the liquid they used and set them on fire. They deserve no better!
Very nice to learn that grade school students still recite “The Pledge of Allegience”. I went to first grade in 1957 and had to recite the pledge every morning from first through eigth grade(Archdiocese of Philadelphia-birthplace of the USMC). I hope to God the ACLU does not try to bring a suit against the reciting of the “Pledge”!
They seem to be targeting the Vietnam memorials more then others. I thought the withdrawal from Vietnam leaving millions to die in the purges that followed was one of the lefts greatest accomplishments? Why would they attack symbols that also stand for one of their accomplishments?
In light of the wide spread vandalism I would caution vets all over the country that while you can’t make it to DC for the Gathering of Eagles it would seem there is plenty you can do on the home front to protect memorials to our fallen brethren and help to respect their sacrifice and memory. We, veterans and those serving, have known for a long time that quite often we go it alone, but just as in life, we need to still protect our buddy on our left and right. It always go back to the old saying “Nobody loves a soldier until the barbarians are at the gate”
I’ll be there as well. Look for me–I’ll be the one holding the American flag! Just kidding, obviously, but let’s hope there are 50,000+ American flags to wave in the faces of the traitors.
Are there security cameras watching the memorial?
I had planned to make this year’s GOE but health problems have forced me to cancel my plans.
Find em. Lock em up. Throw away the key.
The Marines… Please god let them try this on the Marine recruiters…
And please, someone make sure there’s video…
I was at the GOE in March, however, I am unable to make the 9/15 gathering. It breaks my heart to miss this event.
As I have read about the desecration of the wall, no one has mentioned if there are any survellance cameras, and if not, why not? In order to do anything to the little puke(s) responsible they must be found out. It is unbelievable to me that our memorials and monuments are not guarded 24/7. We live in a time of total madness, we should not also be stupid and blind.
#60 Too Funny! LMAO! Maybe I’ll see you there.
One only has to listen to Dick Durbin or Chuck Schumer before the inevitable conclusion is that the Democratic Party shares the sentiments of these vandals as well as a hatred of the USA military.
Funny, over 60 comments and no stupid troll comment defending this as a free speech issue.
This is just a precursor to sand blasting any reference to the 10 commandments and GOD from all government buildings i.e. Library of Congress, Capitol Building… We already have deniers that this country was not founded on Judeo-Christian values. We even have people who say there are no Christian signers of our Constitution. This is just the beginning – mark my words.
All that being said, these people are not cowards. I know cowards and these people are beneath them – lower than whale dung.
Couldn’t see straight from the anger - sorry.
From the article about the barbarian who “tagged” the Betty Ong Mural:
And yet he is still on the streets in San Francisco. I bet he wouldn’t be if he “tagged” something like a mosque. Also, how can the NPS NOT know who vandalized the Vietnam memorial? No surveillance cameras at our most important monuments?
This is so infuriating, I don’t quite know what to say in polite company. That Wall is sacred ground, consecrated in the blood of our brothers. I find my worst instincts are brought to the surface by these scumbags. I want to personally do violence to them, but I know that is wrong. It would feel so good to crack some stinky hippie skulls, but we are not the mindless thug cowards that they are.
Is there any concern about the other monuments, such as the Iwo Jima Marines Statue, or the new WWII plaza? Will the Park Service have to guard all these places from now on? I hope the Capitol Police are prepared to remove their PC policies and really protect our national treasures with manpower.
These people are unworthy of the freedom they have inherited from the Heroes they are desecrating. GRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!
It is a federal felony to injure or destroy, or to attempt to injure or destroy a veteran’s memorial that is located on Federal property. The vandal may theoretically be sentenced to imprisonment for 10 years. 18 U.S. Code 1369. A Texas Democrat (alas, must give credit where credit is due) has submitted a bill in Congress to expand this statute to cover all veteran’s memorials throughout the country.
The real hurdle, however, to enforcing this law (and any future law of its kind, lies in making absolutely SURE that the U.S. Attorney’s Office actually prosecutes the case. In D.C., the U.S. Attorney’s Office routinely “nol-pros” (refuse to prosecute) protestor cases. That is where Michelle Malkin and all other organized groups come in. Pressure the U.S. Attorney’s Office to actively prosecute these cases.
I’ll be seeing many of you on Saturday!
Brian 72…
I know several guys from my unit who’s memories live on that wall. But, if my memory serves me right, the US Park Police do not provide anything more than routine patrols of the monuments but I would surely hope that there were cameras on site.
My guess is that the money for these cameras was earmarked by Murtha and spent on his phony companies in PA.
Maybe we should start our own search and destroy mission.
Suggestion to MM - hide comment #46 - we really shouldn’t be giving the communists and jihadists any ideas…
Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness…and here we are few hundred years later, the envy of the world to the point that those who envy us most will seek us out and do their best to destroy us. Those small-minded individuals can try. And they might get media time. But we outnumber them. We are, and always will be, one nation under God. He exists. He is with us. He will protect us. Quote Sir Winston: NEVER GIVE UP!
This, says I, is treason. He wants to provide aid to those killing Americans. There is no questioning of their patriotism. Theirs is clearly towards our enemies!
Anti-American, Fair Trial, Rope. Some assembly required.
I just hope this country never gets to the point where the masses decide skip the fair trial.
I don’t have any friends or family on that wall. As my name denotes, I was born just as the war was winding down. There still is a visceral reaction, because I’ve known some veterans over the years who are personally connected to that wall, and I’ve heard their tales of those times when their service was belittled by the Jane Fondas and John F’n Kerry’s of the world. Then when Kerry ran for President, I learned about the whole Winter Soldier episode in detail, and that was the last straw for me. All of the “Summer of Love” propaganda was transparent to me after that. The “peace movement” became clear in its purpose, and sickening.
I say this will not stand.
I say never again will the people of America tolerate this sickness amongst us. They are trying to undo the healing that has taken place since Vietnam, first by Reagan, then by the return from Desert Storm. Not this time.
America loves her military, and the leftist neo-commies just can’t stand it!
By the way trinitytim, welcome home, and thank you.
I’d camp at the wall if I could find someone to back me…
There is nothing in that post that a communist or jihadist could not learn with a high school chemistry book and 10 minutes on the internet.
This is some political context to all of this, from the mouth of a liberal.
Susan Estrich, Fox News.com
These people are enabling this sickening behavior, while dodging responsibility for the consequences. They will say this desecration of the Wall, and all these idiots about to descend on Washington do not represent the Democrat Party, but behind closed doors they are hoping for a violent street revolt, so they can run on it in ‘08. I am fed up with all of this.
Enough is enough!
Push back the neo-coms!
Sorry for the repeat of this but I am going to use this once again because I think it is appropriate.
Speaking about the left;
They’re little people. It’s not that they’re short, they’re just little, in the heart and in the mind. This week they tried to make a man little whose boots they couldn’t touch if they stood tiptoe on top of the highest mountain in the world. And in the end they are even littler than they were before!
Here, from Blackfive, is another American Hero whom the leftie neo-coms have decided to slander, saying goodbye to his beloved Marines. You should read the whole thing, but here is an excerpt:
We, as a nation are losing a great leader of men. Thanks alot, Democrats.
Just imagine the Pandemonium which would have ensued had this vandalism been done to a holy relic of Islam or perhaps the Clinton Library…..
Brain72..
Thank you for your kind words and for your support of our country and our military. I read each of your posts and enjoy hearing your opinions. I agree with your assesssment of General Pace. He is a great American who will be missed.
Thanks to all of you great Americans who post on this site. I love all of you, even those with whom I disagree. I only pray that we will be victorious in our fight to keep America free and strong.
For all of you veterans out there, from whatever conflict, we stand with you. We cannot allow this travesty to go unchallenged.
There are more Americans than ever who reject the neo-coms, as I’ve named them. They are nothing but recycled communist propaganda, not an original thought in their greasy heads. We will face them down, and they won’t be able to get enough of the people on their side to do to our country what they did in the Vietnam War. They will be shamed in front of the nation, and I know that Michelle will be on the front lines of the moonbat convention in DC coming up. I can’t be there in person, but I will be there through this site and others, cheering on those who want this country to WIN.
For all vets everywhere who fought for America, welcome home, thank you, and we will not forget.
The problem is that very little is done when such vandalism occurs. The liberal judges just dismiss it as a childish prank and the individuals involved pay a fine and do some silly community service. It these vandals actually spent real jail time - like a year in prison in the desert, then this type of stuff would stop.
There is no question that destructive elements that pretend to only hate Bush but actually hate the entire nation are at work. They are anarchists, communists, and terrorist sympathizers.
The anti American crowd continue to attempt to turn our children against the best country in the world..maggots.
http://www.chicoer.com/news/ci_6879506
I really wish I could be in D.C., Michelle. Even though I live in the area, I’m in Tennessee for a bit and will have to miss it. Sigh. My thoughts and prayers are with all the people that will be there!
What is wrong with these people? Even if you hate some political party of or person, why would you desecrate a memorial to people that died so you could live free in this wonderful country? How bizarre, I’d like to meet these people…maybe let them know how a veteran feels about their actions, you know, a little debate.
They’re staging a “die-in”??
Can they maybe do it for real??
Anti-American indeed. But, it is not just illegal aliens. Look at WXYZ-TV Detroit. Really, look at the medical student.
#87 - you are welcome to come to SF anytime…they are not hard to spot here.
I have always believed you get the behavior that you tolerate and we have been tolerating way to much for way to long!
On September 13th, 2007 at 2:47 am, 2spothipshot
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EXCELLENT SONG!!! HEY HEY HEY!!!
On September 13th, 2007 at 5:51 pm, jferg49 said:
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As the daughter of a man who had no son to fight, I’d genuinely love to join you and side you for THAT debate.
But I warn you, I have a little Indian blood, and you know what happens when the men of Indian tribes handed their enemies over to the women to take care of.
Let these Liberals get out in public and show us their faces! LET US SEE WHO THEY ARE!!!
I’d say at the rate we are getting out country to move against Treason AT ALL, that this is going to end up being the LEAST of our problems.
I say that as one vehemently opposed to vigilantism, suspecting all who rush to become leaders of vigilantism of attempting to install their own regime on the ashes with “Martial Law”.
What difference does it make if there is nothing left to defend, by the time the defenders at the home fires bother to wake up!
Alas, what does it matter, if they cannot be bothered to gather around their local courthouses and demand some trials for Treason! right where it is found!
Brian72…the most frightening thing is that they choose not to think for themselves…Because a professor said it then it must be true??? Because it was on the news then it’s true??? Some of these people are so much smarter than the thoughts they regurgitate…
Ladies and gentlemen, I have asserted that today’s leftists are nothing more than rehashed communist propaganda. Many consider such views to be “right wing nonsense”, but when you say something so dramatic, it should be backed up by credible sources. Well, here it is, folks. Straight from the horse’s mouth, or the Bear’s mouth, to be more accurate.
Ion Pacepa, the former head of communist Romania’s intelligence station in West Germany, is the highest ranking KGB officer to defect to the West. He explains quite clearly where all this undermining of the American President on the international stage came from. The USSR. Vladimir I. Lenin’s “useful idiots” doctrine proved more brilliant than anyone could have predicted. It has worked to near perfection, and continues to this day even though it’s source is now defunct. He has written an op-ed in the Opinion Journal dated Aug. 7, 2007.
Please, read it all. Here is a taste:
This sounds very familiar, if you saw John F’n Kerry’s testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in 1971.
Does this not enrage you? Does this not enlighten you as to the origin and purpose of today’s slander campaign by the leftist “useful idiots”?
Mark Levin is right. They are simply Stalinists in our midst, not just MoveOn, but the Democrat Party itself. Today’s Jackass party has taken up the mantle of the KGB to destroy America as we have known it, to rebuild it as the United Socialist States of America. They are coming to Washington, DC, to continue their traitor tradition.
Don’t let them win, not in ‘08, not ever.
Where was John Kerry the night it happened? No, I’m serious. The Vietnam memorial? Not what you would expect a young moron to target first.
I’m surprised no one saw. Even in the middle of the night there are often candlelight vigils.
As for SFO, taggers are stupid. Probably had no clue who she was.
Truly vile though. All of them heros, and like Ms. Ong, many had no choice. I suggest we send them to Iraq, and force them to scrub the blood off the floor of the field hospitals on their hands and knees.
I changed my mind, they aren’t worthy to clean up the blood wounded soldiers.
Latrines.
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I wonder if you are a certain person I’ve met before, from Texas.
Your material matches that which I’ve posted as often as possible, which was published in the Congressional Record on January 10, 1963 - a Joseph Stalin Agenda For The Destruction of America from the inside, extremely long piece, but was composed in the 1950’s and was immediately adopted as the Dim Party PLATFORM, and includes such items as these:
1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.
2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.
3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.
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12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.
13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.
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16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers’ associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
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22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all for