Gathering of Eagles III: Get ready
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And from Eagles Up, another detailed map (click for full-size):
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Eagles in action on Capitol Hill, via NRO.
Here’s a GOE mega-thread from Right on the Right.
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Make your voice heard:
Update: An interview with N.Z. Bear of the Victory Caucus.
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You want to see how the moonbats are firing up their side? Have you seen the ANSWER die-in check-in? Look:
Who’s coming: the Sheehanistas, the Pinkos, the socialists, the open-borders lobby, bored hippies, college Democrats, and, of course, the cop-killer apologists of the “International Concerned Family and Friends of Mumia Abu-Jamal:”
ANSWER Coalition; Ramsey Clark; Muslim American Society Freedom Foundation; Mounzer Sleiman, Vice Chair, National Council of Arab Americans; Cindy Sheehan; Camp Casey Peace Institute; Cynthia McKinney; Veterans for Peace (National); Garett Reppenhagen, Chair of Iraq Veterans Against the War; Tina Richards, CEO of Grassroots America; Rev. Lenox Yearwood, CEO of Hip Hop Caucus; Al-Awda, The Palestine Right to Return Coalition; Code Pink; Father Roy Bourgeois and Eric LeCompte, School of Americas Watch; George Washington University College Democrats; Campus Anti-War Network; Chelsea Uniting Against the War; Sarah “echo” Steiner, Co-Chair, Green Party of the United States; Kevin Zeese, Democracy Rising; Navy Petty Officer Jonathan Hutto, co-founder Appeal for Redress; Liam Madden, Pres., Boston Chapter of Iraq Veterans Against the War and co-founder of Appeal for Redress; Malik Rahim, founder of Common Ground Collective, New Orleans; Howard Zinn, Author and Historian; Carlos & Melida Arredondo, Gold Star Families for Peace; Rev. Graylan Hagler, Ministers for Racial, Social and Economic Justice; Latino Movement USA; Hermandad Mexicana Nacional; Ron Kovic, Vietnam Veteran, author, Born on the 4th of July; Leonard Weinglass, Cuban 5 attorney; Michael Berg; National Lawyers Guild; Father Luis Barrios, Iglesia de San Romero de las Americas - UCC; World Can’t Wait; Frank Velgara, ProLibertad Freedom Campaign; Empower DC; Pam Africa, International Concerned Family and Friends of Mumia Abu-Jamal; the Latin America Solidarity Coalition; Greater Boston Stop the Wars Coalition; and many others.
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Die-in? Shades of the 1960’s! You’d think they’d be more creative than this.
Wish I could be there–God bless you all, you’re in my prayers.
Godspeed to all.
George Washington would hang a few traitors for Treason, and we could clear the air, quickly, of all this balderdash.
Michelle,
I emailed this to you but I think it got lost in the Petraeus coverage:
Sorry for the formatting glitches. I won’t use up space by reposting it.
A Die-In. What a dud of a display. Stoned and drunk pot-bellied Baby Boomers and their quisling youth corps recruits standing around watching 4,000 bodies flopping around in costumes and fake blood.
“Oh, it was so impactive to see how many bodies 4,000 look like.”
Did it require alot of “planful thinking” to pull that off?
These are such pathetic displays. They have so little sense of history- battles in the 2nd world war that involve MILLIONS of soldiers.
Gettysburg- 50,000 plus DEAD in 72 hours.
And this war has barely even begun. And it will be a horrible war that is fought here on our lands- for the first time since the American Revolution.
(Think I’m joking? Check out the news breaking up in Dearborn Michigan where jihadi filth are walking the streets in camou fighting gear with AK47s. These pockets of fighters are all over our country.)
These people will perish for many reasons, but mainly because of things like:
1) their emotional constipation and arrested development,
2)their cop-killer fetish over a self-serving Black man who is too chicken to face the consequences of his actions,
3)their fascination with the sexual proclivities of radical lesbians (CODE PINK)as being some kind of vessel of real political power,
4)their worship of Chipmunk Traitor Dennis Kucinich and his narcisstic dwarfish projections onto humanity’s future (just go home and write inconsequential books you can sell at a local Cleveland JC already),
5)their twisted logic of supporting the troops but condemning the mission our troops are committed to seeing through,
6) their absolute lack of understanding of radical Islam- our enemies since the 18th century, a thousand years after these goons decided that religious dogma was their ticket to the great whorehouse in the sky.
The list goes into the hundreds.
But what makes me sicker than what these pukers are doing in Washington this weekend is the belief among some Americans that we cannot win because they are “controlling the debate”.
Maybe they are making more noise and grandstanding on TV cameras that are in collusion with them- but what change in the course of the war have they persuaded?
Net result: NADA. Draw downs to “pre-surge levels”- the invasion force was a pre-surge level. DUH! Has there been any mention whatsover of reducing the carrier battle groups strength in the Gulf?
Hell no. The debate is moot.
Iran is in the cross hairs. Israel is siting its bombers. Syria can’t shoot dfor squat- but, oh! hey! Dennis Kucinich went and scratched the Syrian President’s behind.
No sway. The “debate” is irrlevant. And the ridiculous self-measures of their own “effectiveness” have led them to commit hubris of the grandest design:
Hillary has actually appointed the criminal Sandy Berger as her head security advisor. She makes no bones about laundering money donated to her by a known felon. Bill Clinto tells his donors that Hillary is winning over the military. Stuffed suit BH Obama calls for an immediate pullout from Iraq. Nancy Pelosi gloats over having passed a minimum wage bill while refusing to cop to the fact that she has failed to meet her campaign pledge to end the war in Iraq- and that she is through as any type of credible SOTH. But she has the gall to squak on national TV about “holding the President accountable about the war.”
Bye-bye. Major military bases are already built in Iraq and throughout the Asian continent. Battle ready assets are trained on Iran. Germany has departed from the table over sanctions against Iran- signaling Foggy Bottom’s Madame Commandante Rice that the diplomatic approach has FAILED.
Petraeus fulfilled the courtesy of briefing the Congress as ordered.
Now it is back to the killing of our enemies in Iraq and Iran.
What does the “debate” have to do with the remaining term of our President?
They have been wrong since 9/11 on just about every issue involving the War on Terror.
How are they controlling the debate?
Let’s hear what the President has to say.
Someone needs to round up some thirsty dogs, let them drink their fill near the DIE IN, and then turn them loose to lift some legs and squat some bottoms.
A fitting salute to the filth they are.
The President just said: “Throughout the remainder of our time in Iraq I will make sure our commanders on the ground will have adequate troops and the flexibility to be successful.”
What debate? The Commander-in-Chief gives orders. The Congress has already signed on the dotted line- and they know it.
The enemy within responds by a symbolic stunt- a die in.
They are a disempowered group of losers who will rage about this until they can’t make it to their own rockin chairs. Have a nice life.
Thank you again and again for reminding all those who read your blog of the GOE event. I actually have in the last 2 weeks turned a young worker at my job from a loose change conspiracy person to going to the GOE event to support the mission and our wonderful troops……….one person at a time.
One person at a time….Amen to that
I so wish I could go to show my support for our troops. My gratitude, thoughts and prayers are with them.
Perhaps we should STEP on their worthless so-called dead bodies to remind them that real soldiers/Marines/combat troops have to do unreasonable things to complete their missions? I’ll be there (a veteran) with two big mocking signs to scream my defiance against these left-wing dog turds! Will you? Let us normal people reclaim our government! Join us, and rejoice.
I forgot to mention that Russ Vaughn blogs at Old War Dogs.
Step on one for me 509th Bob, I can only be with you guys in spirit.
Petition signed.
Bla, Bla, Bla, Bla, Bla, Bla is all you people do. Hey Michelle, where are our 100 transportation sites http://answer.pephost.org/site/PageServer?pagename=S15_transportation?
Hell where is our pro American rally page? Where are our bulletins and speakers…..Oh I see….Bla, Bla, Bla, Bla, Bla, is all you conservatives know how to do.
I’m hoping that Fox will be on the right side of the road this time.
The President should come speak to the Eagles.
And Bear….bla,bla,bla ….put up or shut up already. If you don’t think this group of losers has sway in Iraq and the world think again.
Gen. Bui Tin Describes North Vietnam’s Victory
Q: Was the American antiwar movement important to Hanoi’s victory?
A: It was essential to our strategy. Support of the war from our rear was completely secure while the American rear was vulnerable. Every day our leadership would listen to world news over the radio at 9 a.m. to follow the growth of the American antiwar movement. Visits to Hanoi by people like Jane Fonda, and former Attorney General Ramsey Clark and ministers gave us confidence that we should hold on in the face of battlefield reverses. We were elated when Jane Fonda, wearing a red Vietnamese dress, said at a press conference that she was ashamed of American actions in the war and that she would struggle along with us.
509th Bob
I wish more than anything that I could but I just cant. Thank you sir for your service and godspeed…
I look forward to checking out how great it went when I get home on Saturday evening. I’ll be away from technology, but will be praying.
A die-in? Oh come on–surely you can do better than that. I am not impress.
They don’t seem to realize that nobody takes them seriously but themselves, and the rest of the world is just shaking their heads at such juvenile (and impotent) antics.
Jim Pinkerton in Newsday compared this year 2007 to 1971, when Hollywood and the MSM moved to the left and the public in reaction moved to the right. While we wanted out of Vietnam in 1971, we also didn’t want to lose, something that was lost on the Democrats. When the left-wing elites dumped on us back then, we responded by reelecting Nixon by a landslide even though we knew that his ethics were, to say the least, suspect.
Today, a similar situation prevails. We would dearly love to exit Iraq, but not in humiliation, which again is lost on the Democrats. They would rather suck up to their loony left base than listen to the public and it might cost them dearly next year.
I also wish we had a transportation link but GOE is new to this game, the smelly ones have been at it for 40 years. I wish we could go so badly. Our daughter is having surgery on her stomach again tomorrow, thus I am not able to sleep so I’m up hoping for Red Eye and getting more of the “blonde in Aruba” garbage and decided to see what was happening here.
We will be with you all in spirit.
“die in”???
Concluded via the title this had to do w/Osama’s snazzy new beard…hmmm…
God be with the Eagles! You will be in my prayers!
Good luck GOE and all others.ot,I changed to cnn from FOX when J Gibson announced hr would be on next.cnn was talking about gays.ha ha.
I will be there blogging away. If you’ve never seen a big lefty protest jamboree in Washington, DC, I recommend the experience. You’ll rarely see so much Stupid marching down the street. Keep your eye peeled for all the Communist banners. No, I’m not kidding.
I’m not convinced that ANSWER can muster the numbers it did in the past. In the year after the war began, ANSWER could draw 50,000 protestors, which it would then claim to be ten times that number. Since then, their numbers have been declining. They could only draw ten thousand protestors last time. And they were opposed by the Gathering of Eagles. The one thing that protestors hate most is being protested. They think it’s unfair and outrageous.
Most of the protestors come to these things to party. They’re not serious people. If they are counter-protested, that takes the fun out of it and they won’t show up for the next protest. That’s how you beat down these anti-American protests.
Is Osama in the cave next to you? Us conservatives have accomplished 10 times more with our voices being heard over the past 9 months than the Dems have collectively. sheesh.
I seem to recall it was conservatives who shut down shame-nasty!
Good morning aj!
Thanks for you great work Michelle!
GOD bless GOE. I will be there in spirit. I wish I could be there in person. It is ungodly to leave a bunch of dead bodies unburied. I would be there with my shovel doing my best for GOD and country to burry as many dead bodies as I could in such a short time.
I can dream though.
Great rant bear.
P.S. what does bla, bla, bla accomplish? Hypocrite.
Accomplished? Such as? Nonsence….A movie like “redacted” inflames jihadists and gets soldiers killed. The cries for getting out of the war from Reid, Peolsi and the entire dem party emboldens jihadists and gets our soldiers killed.
These two facts are just the tip of the gigantic iceberg…..you said 9 months….773 american soldiers are dead…What the F have you accomplished
Greetings and best wishes to the GOE from Scotland.
You are a great encouragement not only in the USA but all over the world.
Keep on Keeping on!
What is with all the pro-amnesty groups at the rally? And a cop killer Mumia one? These people are nuts!
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Sorry, dude, but Conservatives aren’t the little sheeple that liberals are. We think for ourselves.
Good morning soap,
Dart? Do you awaken every morning this confused or am I just misunderstanding what the heck you’re trying to say?
Not misunderstanding….If you can’t understand my frustration and the point I am making consistantly here you are either, well, unintelligent or a “sheeple” as Savage and Mister Teach have said. Really…I am not trying to demean anyone but I blog quite vigorously against liberal stupidity and I come here to join you people occasionally. I agree with Michelle on practically every issue she posts, I fervently agree with Bill O most of the time. I simply feel that as the ones with the resourses and finances…At least Sean, Rush and Bill O, (I don’t know about Michelle), the ones who think we should continue the fight are not doing nearly enough to counter the slime on the left. I don’t know if you are paying attention or what but we have been getting our asses kicked for 4 years now to the detriment of the soldiers, the Iraqis and to our country. And to deny we are (as you and many here do) seems hypocritical.
I have seen that list of sponsors before. Why don’t they just save ink and precious paper and put all of those groups under one heading called the “We hate America” organization.
I can’t wait I’m leaving @ 5:30P
Dart,
You’re frustration as you call it doesn’t make me unintelligent. Get a Grip.
Remember your cameras!!! We can’t all be Zombies but there’s little that’s more important than documenting the stupid. Let the haters speak and their own words will damn them. Youtube is your friend, believe it or not.
Next time could you have a buss from the midwest?
Like, say, Peoria or something?
Sorry guy but you said….”Do you awaken every morning this confused or am I just misunderstanding what the heck you’re trying to say?”
I don’t see how you could be either unless…..
See post #15…..are you confused, don’t understand or are you simply…well
I really envy you people who are able to be there….Amen to utube….video is simple.(I do it all the time) we have to challenge more and more and more.
You go Eagles !
Bring the noise!
I just visited you site and guess what I saw? Your rant. Bla, bla, bla is all you did. I did not find a pro American rally page. As a matter of fact I just saw the same thing you gave Bear1909 a hard time for. In your own words, “put up or shut up.”
You started this whole thing by throwing a blanket over everyone here. This thread is not about your rants over peoples comments!
Peace
Go get them Eagles! Wish I could be there along side you 590th Bob. I will be watching from Blogs I follow and cheering you all on.
Soap,
Exactamundo.
I’d respect a “die-in” if they showed the courage of their convictions and self-immolated like the Buddhist monks in Vietnam, or even simultaneously popped cyanide tablets.
Otherwise, they’re just play-acting like children, and they really need to step aside and let the grown-ups handle things.
Go out and kick some hippie butt for me!
(Metaphorically, of course ;)).
It is unfortunate but I plan to attend the funeral of Patriot Guard Rider Greg Bowman on the 15th, in Princeton, IL, who trajically died in a motorcycle accident.
Bowman was a colleague of my wife as well as a patriot, who extended himself to protect the families of our fallen soldiers and marines in Iraq and Afghanistan against the likes of the so-called “Reverend” Phelps, who work at disrupting their funerals.
According to the Peoria, IL paper, Phelps and his band of thuggish assh*les will be picketing Bowman’s funeral on Saturday, out of spite.
But I’ll be thinking of those of you who go to DC…..
Ladies and gentlemen, I have asserted that today’s leftists are nothing more than rehashed communist propaganda. Many consider such views to be “right wing nonsense”, but when you say something so dramatic, it should be backed up by credible sources. Well, here it is, folks. Straight from the horse’s mouth, or the Bear’s mouth, to be more accurate.
Ion Pacepa, the former head of communist Romania’s intelligence station in West Germany, is the highest ranking KGB officer to defect to the West. He explains quite clearly where all this undermining of the American President on the international stage came from. The USSR. Vladimir I. Lenin’s “useful idiots” doctrine proved more brilliant than anyone could have predicted. It has worked to near perfection, and continues to this day even though it’s source is now defunct. He has written an op-ed in the Opinion Journal dated Aug. 7, 2007.
Please, read it all. Here is a taste:
This sounds very familiar, if you saw John F’n Kerry’s testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in 1971.
Does this not enrage you? Does this not enlighten you as to the origin and purpose of today’s slander campaign by the leftist “useful idiots”?
Mark Levin is right. They are simply Stalinists in our midst, not just MoveOn, but the Democrat Party itself. Today’s Jackass party has taken up the mantle of the KGB to destroy America as we have known it, to rebuild it as the United Socialist States of America. They are coming to Washington, DC, to continue their traitor tradition.
Don’t let them win, not in ‘08, not ever.
I WILL NOT SUBMIT!
Personally, if my son or daughter died in the war and someone was trying to use their name in this matter, I would NOT be happy about it. Exploitation of the worst kind.
In Lafayette, CA - an anti-war protestor puts up a sign right by a main freeway and BART train tracks with the number of troups who died in Iraq and a cross with their name on it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lafayette_hillside_memorial
At one point, a father of one of the soldiers came over and removed the cross with his sons name on it. They call it vandalism in the papers…but I’d feel the same way. Not ok to use peoples family members names who died in war for an anti war statement…similar to here.
You have got to be kidding me. Can’t you scare up some of his biker friends and go open a can of whuparse on them? If I were up there, I would be the second volunteer.
You were right to put Reverend in quotes. He is no man of GOD who thinks that doing this will glorify the Almighty.
Picture it.
GOD: So Mr. Phelps, what was this picketing all about?
Phelps: Just doing my best to bring you glory.
GOD: Wrong answer.
Phelps: JESUS is LORD – JESUS is LORD!
GOD: Have you not read
Matthew 7:21
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Michelle,
I’m a Sept 12th type of person. I can’t go to the gathering this time. However, I’m sending my best man. My bother, “The Bacon Man”. He will be there. Thanks for all the info. I WILL NOT SUBMIT!!!!!!!!!!!! BOO-FREAKEN-HOO!!!!
/S/
Jose the guerilla
Well that’s religious extremism for you…
I support the Eagles and wish I could be there to wave my Union Jack and the American flag together….
Don’t feed the trolls.
Don’t eat the Snausage.
Surround the pinkos in a circle outside of their group - try to blend in and act like you’re one of them - then don’t let them out of the circle - and (optional) throw some very ripe tomatoes at them. For the die-in, just step on them. Aim for the neck area.
What scum.
Amnesty is back. Please go to NumbersUSA and fax your Senators and Congressmen.
See trolls, now there is a creative post. I will spring for a case of real rotten tomatoes! We should start a fund!
FOOD FIGHT!
Lol, they wouldn’t have a chance.
Well, I grew up in DC and had to put up with morons like this all of my life (the protesters). I can’t stand them. I don’t consider myself a troll on this site - I’ve been coming here since it started.
bdfaith quoted a Russ Vaughn poem (Of Eagles and Chickens).
I wonder if Russ remembered that Eagles like to eat chickens for lunch?
This weekend, you GOE’s might just find a whole bunch of left wings to “buffalo-ize”. (is that a word?)
Bon Appétit!
fox?
Am I missing something? Did I call you a Troll?
No, not you. I guess I misunderstood Soapbox. Sometimes my “humor” can be misunderstood, too. Plus I’m just really sensitive today. These stupid anti-war, anti-capitalism, anti-anything protesters have my knickers in a twist and I’m trying insert some humor about it, but frankly I hope the GOEs kick some serious butt.
Dartagnot
A troll is a troll is a troll is a troll- no matter what self-appointed role you say that you are playing here.
You ain’t no Dennis Miller; that’s for sure.
The burden of proof is on you about the debate being controlled by the Left.
How does one control a debate by taking an untenable position?
The Left acts much like you do here in this forum- they say stupid crap, call people names, and then plug their ears when anybody attempts to respond.
Does your mom know you have internet access and are lying about your age?
Your amateurish attempts at political dialogue fall short of convincing anybody that you know what you are talking about. But I digress.
The burden of proof, like I said, is on you.
So far, the anti-war lobby has failed to control the direction of the war.
What the Commander in Chief has deemed necessary he has been supported in receiving. And this will continue.
It stands to reason that the “debate” is irrelevant.
And even more irrelevant are the Left’s so-called “Direct action” protests.
If their goal is to embolden the enemy then let them be arrested for treason. I hardly think it is their goal.
Is their goal to bring the war to an end?
Perhaps- but they have failed so far.
So what are the grounds for saying the debate is under the Left’s control.
It would appear the US war effort is allowing the Left to rant and gesture all they want- and then do what needs doing.
Do anti-war actions “embolden” the enemy? Let’s take a closer look at it.
I don’t know if it emboldens Muqtada al-Sadr. He lost enough of his “troops” to throw in his head wrap.
Has it emboldened AQ in Iraq? They are being driven out of province after province by Iraqis.
Is it “emboldening” Iran?
I hardly think so. Iran is in a race against time. And Petraeus’ report was bad news for them. They have had their curtain pulled back- and US forces are going to go after them in earnest now.
Iran is desparate- not emboldened.
Do the Iraqis give a crap about the die-in going on in Washington? It doesn’t appear so. And the rhetoric about “getting the American troops out of Iraq” by Iraqis? Where has that gone?
Care to comment?
As for your Viet Nam parallel, there is something the Left had then that they don’t have now- a draft.
Consider putting a sock in it, Child.
Further, comments directed at me personally about putting up or shutting up:
you have no clue as to who I am or what I do and what I am prepared to do in the face of the very real threats we face here in the SFO Bay Area.
Now go back to your narcisstic demagoguery and try to keep feeding yourself if you can.
Your blah-blah makes me ha-ha.
I feel your pain fox! Hand me a tomatoe!
Luv ya bear!
No problem fox, Been there done that, wait until you see the News tomorrow with all the wackos and their die-in behavior. You may need a tranquilzer.
Dart just didn’t make any sense, lunitic rantings gone wild.
…I was serious about the tomatoes.
Me too fox.
Just for the record, I think a lot of thought went into your tomatoe post. I was telling the trolls to be as creative as you (which should earn me a tomatoe up side my head for thinkig a troll can do much else beside attack our host or say anything that is not stoopid).
Can we discontinue the Dan Quayle spelling of Tomato?
Bear…..
What do you have at stake here? Just so we all know where you are coming from.
Now …it is your opinion that five years of Kerry, Kennedy, Gore, Durbin, Reid and Feingold, and five years of the Times and their 70+ Abu Gharab stories, and torture rhetoric, added to five years of European weenies, UN idiots, and Hollyweird blowhards and combined with the five years of inquiries, suppositions, testamonies, and investigations into the Bush administration played little to no role in the recruitment of steady supply jihadists to kill in Iraq?
That is your argument right? Is that what I read? We are winning the debate and have been for the past five years?
They have not been emboldened by the left….right?
Just as Jane, John and their ilk played no role in Nam?
You are an ass….and to respond as you desire…There is no question but that the far left has not only emboldened the enemy but their selfish, irresponsible rhetoric has cost the lives of thousands of Iraqis and soldiers….Without a shred of doubt in my mind.
PS….A Bear in SF…ALlllllRIGHTY THEN….lol
Where? At stake where? You make no sense. You pose questions that I am to assume mean something? Who is the we? Do you actually believe that people here who read you are somehow in synch with the mish mash you write? Mocking you is a foregone conclusion- you mock yourself with this type of drivel.
When? Now? What in creation are you talking about? Is this your small way of putting me in your rhetorical cross hairs?
While you are busy stuffing C4 into your orificies with your inane and *meaningless* question, let me provide some ignition.
First: Even the question you framed shows you have little to zero understanding of the enemy or the tactic of taking the fight to the enemy.
Second: Do you actually think that all of that propaganda emboldens an enemy to wage jihad?
Compared to what a Nasrallah or a Khameini or an al-Sadr or the many imams in hundreds of Muslim communities across the Middle East have taught and conditioned young boys-to-men to do in the name of Islam- all of that crap you cite above is nil by comparison.
The American military is still in Iraq, Afghanistan and is there supported by an unprecedented military infrastructure on the Asian continent.
What bearing has all the distracting nonsense you believe is helping to “recruit” jihadis on that simple fact?
Nothing.
It is a fact that is empowering our military to kill tens of thousands of those turds- and their leadership. Our very presence in the region has pressurized the jihadists to fight *on our terms* on ground of our choosing.
The crap you are talking about continues unabated. And so does the killing of the enemy, and the increasing pressure on Syria and Iran to put up or shut up.
The situation in Iraq today is far different and far better in our favor than when we started- and all of what you believe is so important has happened in between.
Wrong. That is not my argument. That is your way of setting up a straw man to run your drivel.
You’ve got it wrong.
I did not say we are winning the debate. You cannot quote anything that would support that assertion.
What I said was the debate is irrelevant. If anything, I am saying we have conceded the debate but have pursued the goal of accomplishing the military/political objectives in Iraq.
I am saying the substance of the enemy’s will to fight comes from their belief in Islam.
And when they take up arms each day to fight, do you really think that the hell they are catching from American fighting units is assuaged at all by the thought of Cindy Sheehan or George Soros being on their side?
You are a joke.
The mindset of a radical jihadist is based on a deep sense of inferiority- and that is what their leaders and teachers prey upon to keep them under arms in service to Islam.
Anything you’ve cited is a result of psy-ops perpetrated not for the sake of keeping jihadis fighting as much as it is set up to break the will of Americans.
Until that promise is fulfilled, jihadis continue to die- for Islam, not because they have been emboldened by Sean Penn’s views on the war.
It’s a little hard to swallow that somebody will die for that while they have a bazooka shoved up the same place where your own skull seems to reside.
Read what I wrote.
What North Viet Nam capitalized on was that there was a broad based movement in the US to stop the war due to the draft.
There is no such movement now. This war is not touching MILLIONS of lives of Americans the way the Viet Nam war was.
Jane and John had an impact because there was a movement supporting them *in the streets*.
The media? Doesn’t seem to be putting people in the streets to any effect. Cindy Sheehan has been their big thrust- and she has come off like the ass she is.
That ranks me at least twelve levels above you, Beastie.
The driving force behind the enemy is 99.9% Islamic fascist suicidal ideology and .1 per cent Sean Penn.
Part of that 99.9% is a micro-strategy to conduct psy-ops against the Iraqis and Americans alike: murder everybody, as much as they can, everyday.
That emboldens the enemy- murder and bloodlust in the name of Allah, or die trying.
Not Susan Sarandon.
“To respond as you desire?” you make no sense, Boy.
And this is supposed to mean what? Is this a provocation? Is this an ad hominem attack?
Didn’t we just have a big discussion about the rights of a certain protected group last week, one in which you presented yourself as such an advocate on their behalf?
Oh, but it isn’t what you meant right? You just worded it so you can say it meant something else.
Nice try. You’ve lowered yourself another nine levels.
How is that working for you?
Anyways, I live somewhere else. Try to keep up.
The bottom line is: the big threat of the Congressional surrender monkeys and their Lefty associates is that the US military is going to be defunded and the war brought to a halt.
It hasn’t worked yet. And it is causing some of them to re-think their positions because it might cause them to fail to win the White House. They are ineffectual and in disarray.
They are in conflict with a President whom they believe is stupid- but they can’t seem to be right about anything concerning the issues over which they are in conflict.
So their threats are hollow- because they love their own power too much to risk losing it, which they will most certainly do if they continue to work at cross purposes against the President and the American people.
Dr. Jack Wheeler, the engineer of the Reagan Revolution said recently:
“Take this just-released UPI-Zogby poll revealing that Americans believe the US is safer from terrorism now than before 9/11. What’s worse for the Dems is the poll found that 60% of Americans feel that why the US hasn’t been attacked since 2001 “is a direct result of US government actions” - i.e., the actions of President George Bush.”
So, DartBag, what exactly is the value and relevance of your “emboldening the enemy” argument?
“What I said was the debate is irrelevant.” So why do you bother?..lol
Your spin is almost as good as the fringe leftists Bill O has on. Can you not answer a simple question? I will pose it again….
it is your opinion that five years of Kerry, Kennedy, Gore, Durbin, Reid and Feingold, and five years of the Times and their 70+ Abu Gharab stories, and torture rhetoric, added to five years of European weenies, UN idiots, and Hollyweird blowhards and combined with the five years of inquiries, suppositions, testamonies, and investigations into the Bush administration played little to no role in the recruitment of steady supply jihadists to kill in Iraq?
A simple …YES or NO will suffice.
You can’t answer can you?
Screaming Buddhas….really? lol
“Oh, but it isn’t what you meant right? You just worded it so you can say it meant something else.”
No, you will never see me run and hide as you do..it is exactly what I meant..I just thought it humorous.