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		<title>By: Michelle Malkin &#187; Memo to ABC, NYTimes: Terri Schiavo was not &#8220;brain dead&#8221;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle Malkin &#187; Memo to ABC, NYTimes: Terri Schiavo was not &#8220;brain dead&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 02:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] for Fred Thompson, looks like he got his memory back: September 13, 2007: Republican presidential candidate Fred Thompson gave no opinion Thursday when asked about efforts [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] for Fred Thompson, looks like he got his memory back: September 13, 2007: Republican presidential candidate Fred Thompson gave no opinion Thursday when asked about efforts [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jessie</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/09/13/take-a-stand-fred/comment-page-2/#comment-141092</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 05:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Jessie...&lt;/strong&gt;

Great!...</description>
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<p>Great!&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: bench warrant laws</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/09/13/take-a-stand-fred/comment-page-2/#comment-140992</link>
		<dc:creator>bench warrant laws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 20:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;bench warrant laws...&lt;/strong&gt;

Is blog\&#039;s open to free speech?...</description>
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<p>Is blog\&#8217;s open to free speech?&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: 0b75f2a1cb61454e41dd</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/09/13/take-a-stand-fred/comment-page-2/#comment-140420</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 17:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Matthe3w</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/09/13/take-a-stand-fred/comment-page-2/#comment-136178</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthe3w</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 08:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Matthe3w...&lt;/strong&gt;

This was one time where I have to agree to disagree...</description>
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<p>This was one time where I have to agree to disagree&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: &#8220;Take a stand, Fred&#8221; &#171; Vox Nova</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#8220;Take a stand, Fred&#8221; &#171; Vox Nova</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 12:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a stand,&#160;Fred&#8221;  I am inclined to support Fred Thompson for president, but his answer to the &#8220;Schiavo question&#8221; is simply [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a stand,&nbsp;Fred&#8221;  I am inclined to support Fred Thompson for president, but his answer to the &#8220;Schiavo question&#8221; is simply [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Yashmak</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/09/13/take-a-stand-fred/comment-page-2/#comment-129838</link>
		<dc:creator>Yashmak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 17:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You started out long before you commented here with a premise, that Terri Schiavo had to die, and have simply piled confirmation upon confirmation from the mainstream media onto your viewpoint. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Look, I&#039;m not the one telling people what they think.  You can say I&#039;m operating from a position of ignorance, but I know for a fact that you have no way of knowing what I do, or have thought, about this case.  The mainstream media I read mostly supported her parents position, so don&#039;t try and use the old &quot;you bought into the MSM&quot; meme on me.

You use sensationalist terms to try and move people, like &quot;property&quot; and &quot;inconvenience&quot;.  But it&#039;s really just trying to re-frame something else. . .his responsibility to resepct her wishes.  All things weighed, I still think he did.  I think her parents understandably didn&#039;t want to let go of their daughter, and would have held the same position even if they&#039;d known it was her wish that she be allowed to pass on.

And it doesn&#039;t matter.  It&#039;s STILL not the government&#039;s job to decide, no matter how many hard-hitting adjectives you use to describe the issue.

If I knew my wife&#039;s wishes, and her parents decided they wanted to deny them to her, I&#039;d refuse divorce too, until her wishes had been fulfilled.  That&#039;s what I think smalltowngirl.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You started out long before you commented here with a premise, that Terri Schiavo had to die, and have simply piled confirmation upon confirmation from the mainstream media onto your viewpoint. </p></blockquote>
<p>Look, I&#8217;m not the one telling people what they think.  You can say I&#8217;m operating from a position of ignorance, but I know for a fact that you have no way of knowing what I do, or have thought, about this case.  The mainstream media I read mostly supported her parents position, so don&#8217;t try and use the old &#8220;you bought into the MSM&#8221; meme on me.</p>
<p>You use sensationalist terms to try and move people, like &#8220;property&#8221; and &#8220;inconvenience&#8221;.  But it&#8217;s really just trying to re-frame something else. . .his responsibility to resepct her wishes.  All things weighed, I still think he did.  I think her parents understandably didn&#8217;t want to let go of their daughter, and would have held the same position even if they&#8217;d known it was her wish that she be allowed to pass on.</p>
<p>And it doesn&#8217;t matter.  It&#8217;s STILL not the government&#8217;s job to decide, no matter how many hard-hitting adjectives you use to describe the issue.</p>
<p>If I knew my wife&#8217;s wishes, and her parents decided they wanted to deny them to her, I&#8217;d refuse divorce too, until her wishes had been fulfilled.  That&#8217;s what I think smalltowngirl.</p>
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		<title>By: Ombre Rose</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/09/13/take-a-stand-fred/comment-page-2/#comment-129734</link>
		<dc:creator>Ombre Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 06:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I know that if my husband were to end up as a vegetable and I was told there was no chance for recovery so I decided to stop all treatment…..I would be shocked to have the federal government intervene in such a private and personal matter for my son and I.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
 
&lt;em&gt;Food and water is not treatment. Food and water is basic care.

Strange that you put your husband instead of yourself in the place of Terri Schiavo in your example. You could have put yourself there, but you chose not to. Perhaps it’s because you know deep down that you don’t want to starve and thirst to death, but it’s not so bad if someone else does.&lt;/em&gt;

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Several years ago, the doctors told my mom that her husband was vegetative and would not recover, and asked to put his living will in effect. 
But within hours, my mom and a cousin found they had been double dosing him on Lasix and Phenargan, and his potassium was almost gone!
She got his heart specialists in another city on the phone, and they got things cleared up &quot;toot sweet&quot; - by the next day, he was conscious, alert, and very glad to be alive, indeed! 
AND IMMEDIATELY RESCINDED THAT &quot;LIVING WILL&quot;!
They had three more wonderful years together. I was in their home very frequently, and he was delightful companionship. He was the one always the most ready and able to go somewhere, too!

I too noticed this lady felt that her &lt;strong&gt;husband&lt;/strong&gt; starving to death would be a private matter for &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;her and her son.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

I suppose she would consider it equally private if she and her son had been the ones to toss her husband down the stairs, as well!  Hard to believe these creatures are Americans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I know that if my husband were to end up as a vegetable and I was told there was no chance for recovery so I decided to stop all treatment…..I would be shocked to have the federal government intervene in such a private and personal matter for my son and I.</p></blockquote>
<p><em>Food and water is not treatment. Food and water is basic care.</p>
<p>Strange that you put your husband instead of yourself in the place of Terri Schiavo in your example. You could have put yourself there, but you chose not to. Perhaps it’s because you know deep down that you don’t want to starve and thirst to death, but it’s not so bad if someone else does.</em></p>
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<p>Several years ago, the doctors told my mom that her husband was vegetative and would not recover, and asked to put his living will in effect.<br />
But within hours, my mom and a cousin found they had been double dosing him on Lasix and Phenargan, and his potassium was almost gone!<br />
She got his heart specialists in another city on the phone, and they got things cleared up &#8220;toot sweet&#8221; &#8211; by the next day, he was conscious, alert, and very glad to be alive, indeed!<br />
AND IMMEDIATELY RESCINDED THAT &#8220;LIVING WILL&#8221;!<br />
They had three more wonderful years together. I was in their home very frequently, and he was delightful companionship. He was the one always the most ready and able to go somewhere, too!</p>
<p>I too noticed this lady felt that her <strong>husband</strong> starving to death would be a private matter for <strong><em>her and her son.</em></strong></p>
<p>I suppose she would consider it equally private if she and her son had been the ones to toss her husband down the stairs, as well!  Hard to believe these creatures are Americans.</p>
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		<title>By: Ombre Rose</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/09/13/take-a-stand-fred/comment-page-2/#comment-129732</link>
		<dc:creator>Ombre Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 06:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On September 15th, 2007 at 11:56 am, bvw said: 
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If Fred is RIGHT, then why did the bill he helped push, support and vote for do so much to enable such as the DIMS why stiffling Conservative and Christian opposition to Dim Socialism?

It&#039;s only one more INSTANCE of his personal Clinton ENABLING. Or did you not KNOW he CHAIRED the meaningless committee that &quot;investigated&quot; the CHINESE FUNDING to the Clinton Campaign of &#039;96 - TO NO AVAIL FOR THE CAUSE OF AMERICAN JUSTICE!</description>
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<p>If Fred is RIGHT, then why did the bill he helped push, support and vote for do so much to enable such as the DIMS why stiffling Conservative and Christian opposition to Dim Socialism?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s only one more INSTANCE of his personal Clinton ENABLING. Or did you not KNOW he CHAIRED the meaningless committee that &#8220;investigated&#8221; the CHINESE FUNDING to the Clinton Campaign of &#8216;96 &#8211; TO NO AVAIL FOR THE CAUSE OF AMERICAN JUSTICE!</p>
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		<title>By: Ombre Rose</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/09/13/take-a-stand-fred/comment-page-2/#comment-129731</link>
		<dc:creator>Ombre Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 06:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On September 15th, 2007 at 9:31 pm, limmo said: 
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No, all the appeals NEVER HEARD THE DETAILS OF THE CASE AGAIN - they only resolved that the lower court decisions were appropriate on TECHNICAL details - NOT ON THE DETAILS of the matters of the case.

NOBODY EVER AGAIN HEARD THE DETAILS of the suspicions that Michael was responsible for her injuries or thwarted basic medical diagnostic testing of her situation.

The most cursory perusal of the details of the case make THAT MUCH perfectly clear.

To contest otherwise is a blatant and disgusting perversion of the facts, from either a legal standpoint, or a journalistic standpoint.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On September 15th, 2007 at 9:31 pm, limmo said:<br />
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<p>No, all the appeals NEVER HEARD THE DETAILS OF THE CASE AGAIN &#8211; they only resolved that the lower court decisions were appropriate on TECHNICAL details &#8211; NOT ON THE DETAILS of the matters of the case.</p>
<p>NOBODY EVER AGAIN HEARD THE DETAILS of the suspicions that Michael was responsible for her injuries or thwarted basic medical diagnostic testing of her situation.</p>
<p>The most cursory perusal of the details of the case make THAT MUCH perfectly clear.</p>
<p>To contest otherwise is a blatant and disgusting perversion of the facts, from either a legal standpoint, or a journalistic standpoint.</p>
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		<title>By: Ombre Rose</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/09/13/take-a-stand-fred/comment-page-2/#comment-129730</link>
		<dc:creator>Ombre Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 06:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;#164On September 15th, 2007 at 10:12 pm, blogagog said: 
Use ‘Flabbergastingly’ in a sentence :)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Flabbergastingly, some, himself included, call Fred Thompson the new Ronald Reagan.

Not so flabbergastingly, that idea just makes me barf!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>#164On September 15th, 2007 at 10:12 pm, blogagog said:<br />
Use ‘Flabbergastingly’ in a sentence <img src='http://michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p></blockquote>
<p>Flabbergastingly, some, himself included, call Fred Thompson the new Ronald Reagan.</p>
<p>Not so flabbergastingly, that idea just makes me barf!</p>
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		<title>By: blogagog</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/09/13/take-a-stand-fred/comment-page-2/#comment-129676</link>
		<dc:creator>blogagog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 02:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Use &#039;Flabbergastingly&#039; in a sentence :)</description>
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		<title>By: limmo</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/09/13/take-a-stand-fred/comment-page-2/#comment-129670</link>
		<dc:creator>limmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 01:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ALL of these facts, speculations, opinion, rumors, and, in my opinion, a great amount of libel and slander bandied about regarding this issue was, in almost every instance, known to the courts when this issue was being litigated for years and years, as the case was fought, decided, appealed, and upheld. The courts heard both sides, ad infinitum, and made their decisions after very complete litigation.  In this case, there was a dispute between family members as to how this matter should be handled. There were multitudes of disputes as to the facts.  There were accusations and assertions flying back and forth.  The courts heard all that…for years.  In the end, they ruled. They applied the law which provided that a husband has superior proxy rights in this type of circumstance to carry out the rights and wishes of a spouse under the facts they found in the case, given no specific instructions and no aggravating factors. (In spite of all the gossip, character assassination and Monday morning quarter backing during and since, the court found none.) 

Personally, I favor spousal primacy and feel that it should be the law.  As I’ve said before and will this one last time, a primary objection to DeLay and First insinuating themselves where they didn&#039;t belong was that their interference in settled litigation might have disturbed legal spousal primacy.  I want it. I wrote it into my living will, the one where I specified that I wish no artificial means to sustain me, including a feeding tube, once my brain ceases to function and there is no reasonable hope of recovery.  I also specified that if there is any question or dispute about that, my husband, my children, and my best friend, in that order, will be the ones to choose what will be done on my behalf.  If any of them are sleezoids lookin’ to do me in for nefarious purposes, then I chose wrong, but it was my choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ALL of these facts, speculations, opinion, rumors, and, in my opinion, a great amount of libel and slander bandied about regarding this issue was, in almost every instance, known to the courts when this issue was being litigated for years and years, as the case was fought, decided, appealed, and upheld. The courts heard both sides, ad infinitum, and made their decisions after very complete litigation.  In this case, there was a dispute between family members as to how this matter should be handled. There were multitudes of disputes as to the facts.  There were accusations and assertions flying back and forth.  The courts heard all that…for years.  In the end, they ruled. They applied the law which provided that a husband has superior proxy rights in this type of circumstance to carry out the rights and wishes of a spouse under the facts they found in the case, given no specific instructions and no aggravating factors. (In spite of all the gossip, character assassination and Monday morning quarter backing during and since, the court found none.) </p>
<p>Personally, I favor spousal primacy and feel that it should be the law.  As I’ve said before and will this one last time, a primary objection to DeLay and First insinuating themselves where they didn&#8217;t belong was that their interference in settled litigation might have disturbed legal spousal primacy.  I want it. I wrote it into my living will, the one where I specified that I wish no artificial means to sustain me, including a feeding tube, once my brain ceases to function and there is no reasonable hope of recovery.  I also specified that if there is any question or dispute about that, my husband, my children, and my best friend, in that order, will be the ones to choose what will be done on my behalf.  If any of them are sleezoids lookin’ to do me in for nefarious purposes, then I chose wrong, but it was my choice.</p>
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		<title>By: smalltowngirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>smalltowngirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 22:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>for all who say that Terri&#039;s case was about a &quot;husband&quot; and wife, and that they would like THEIR husbands to speak for them in such a case, remember this; Terri Schaivo&#039;s husband was her husband in name only[due only to his refusal to divorce} at the time of her death. So Limmo, would you be willing to have your husband, who has by then shacked up with a new honey, call the shots on your life or death? Do you not think that your parents would have more of your best interest at heart? Please, use whatever brain you have and THINK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for all who say that Terri&#8217;s case was about a &#8220;husband&#8221; and wife, and that they would like THEIR husbands to speak for them in such a case, remember this; Terri Schaivo&#8217;s husband was her husband in name only[due only to his refusal to divorce} at the time of her death. So Limmo, would you be willing to have your husband, who has by then shacked up with a new honey, call the shots on your life or death? Do you not think that your parents would have more of your best interest at heart? Please, use whatever brain you have and THINK.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry, yes, everybody else, no! &#171; Cowardly political musings&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry, yes, everybody else, no! &#171; Cowardly political musings&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 16:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] yes, everybody else,&#160;no!  Jump to Comments Michelle is complaining that Fred Thompson didn&#8217;t want to take a stand on the Terry Schiavo [...]</description>
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