No, let’s NOT “move on”
Update: From Erick at RedState, a brilliant photoshop and question: What If MoveOn.org Existed 65 Years Ago? Pass this one around (click for full-size):
Update: Jon Ham looks at John Edwards and imagines Wendell Willkie…
Update: Tell the smear artists at MoveOn.org what you think of them.
Update: The new MoveOn.org ad accusing Bush of betrayal.
Update: Here’s video of an FNC segment I did on MoveOn.org with E.D. Hill.
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I did a special column for the NYPost today on MoveOn.org, the Democrat Party, their in-kind contributors at the NYTimes, and their thug allies who’ll be hitting the streets in DC this weekend. Here’s the conclusion:
Like Siamese twins, MoveOn and the Democratic Party are conjoined political entities fused at the heart and hip. There will be no repudiation. A house organ can’t reject itself.
Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas) offered an amendment on the Senate floor to express the Sense of the Senate that Gen. David Petraeus, the commanding general, Multi-National Forces-Iraq, “deserves the full support of the Senate and strongly condemns the personal attacks on the honor and integrity of Gen. Petraeus and all the members of the United States Armed Forces.” House Minority Leader John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) sponsored a similar measure. Naturally, Democratic congressional leaders and the party’s presidential candidates won’t allow the measures to come up for a vote.
Instead, just as anti-war zealots have plotted, the Dems are taking the “high road” in accusing Petraeus of “cherry-picking statistics or selectively massaging information” (the words are Florida Rep. Robert Wexler’s), while the Soros-funded henchmen drag the general’s name through the mud. Meanwhile, their socialist allies led by ANSWER are preparing to take over Washington beginning on Saturday.
The anti-war crew will hold a “die-in” besmirching the troops who believed in the mission in Iraq and gave their lives; they’re planning to shut down military recruiting stations in the nation’s capital, and they’ll continue with other attempts to portray our leaders in uniform as book-cookers and liars.
It is our job to hold these political thugs, their Democrat allies, and their journalistic partners accountable. Let’s not forgive and forget. Hound the Democrat presidential candidates out of their silence. Hound the Times for its advertising bargains to anti-war bullies. And hound the Soros-funded goons body for body, march for march, call for call, letter for letter.
Yes, there’s a war going on. No, let’s not “move on.”
Tom Blumer notes that NYTimes shares continue to plunge.
The Prowler looks at the Times’ history with advocacy ads.
And Jim Hansen at Blackfive is walking the talk by filing an FEC complaint about the Times’ military-bashing discount rate for MoveOn.org.
Move on? Hell, no.
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I’m sure by now they’re wishing you’d move on.
Everything you do is special.
Suck up for the day – thank you, thank you very much!
All kidding aside, great column. I am afraid it is going to fall on deaf ears in DC. What a bunch of cowards. It is bad enough our number one guy on the ground has to put up with this junk but the Senate dimocraps blocking a vote to show support is just cowardice maximus! I smell a Republican takeover soon.
This is an opportunity for conservatives and republicans to draw a line in the sand between the “hate America, it’s our fault for the world’s problems”, and those that support them.
MoveAlong.org and take Code pink with you.
And her voice became a clarion.
I wish I could be in DC this weekend.
Baloney.
This is the problem with much of the political discourse in this country - everything is so black and white. No shades of grey.
There are plenty of moderate Democrats who dislike Code Pink and Moveon.org just as there are plenty of Republicans who are not on the far right…
A moderate democrat is like a moderate muslim, they may exist, but they are harder to find than an athesist in a foxhole during a firefight
sausage
so tell me why we never hear from any of the “moderate democrats” … all we ever hear from are the incompetent mouthpieces in congress towing the radical left line of people like MoveOn.org in fear of losing all that money that is flowing into their bank accounts …
hard to think there is any grey coming from the democrat side of the aisle when no one ever gets to see it because it is suppressed by the extremists in charge …
freedom of dissent is a right in this country … slander and sedition are not …
there is a line that is being crossed more and more often and although I am sure you will disagree the majority of people in this country … yes I said majority … are fed up with the partisan BS that we hear all day every day from our co-called leaders … the silent majority will be silent no more …
ranting and raving is not leading …
Off topic, but kinda related - peeking at Drudge I see Laura Ingraham’s book “Power To The People” is at # 1 - non-fiction
The MM and Laura chats @ hotair were great, this just makes things even sweeter.
Then might I suggest you gather these people, and publicly denounce what MoveOn.org and the “fringe” have done and are doing?
Otherwise you’re just one of the crowd, bubba…
P.S. to my last …
the closest thing I’ve seen or heard from to a moderate democrat is Joe Lieberman and the dem party dumped him … fortunately the people of CT rebelled and had sense enough to elect him as an independent …
Certainly not among the party leadership or other visible/high-profile democrats. Must be one of those silent majorities I’ve heard so much about.
I think the “moderate Democrats” are the ones who on rare occasions remember to take their daily meds, DL. So maybe they’re just too doped up to be able to talk on those days? The normal Democrat psychosis would explain their silence the rest of the time.
That would certainly explain Democratic Underground.
purplepeep
LOL … and then there are the Pelosis and Reids … don’t think there could be enough meds out there to silence that group …
It is a good thing as more and more people see that the NYTimes-LATimes-WAPost, ABC-NBC-CBS are not news, they are the mouthpiece of George Soros.
Internet news and opinion providers are establishing that they are more reliable sources of the truth than the MSM. In fact, the MSM seems to be intentionally making Michelle, Allah, Hugh Hewitt, Powerline, Instapundit, Sean, Rush et al the only options for news.
Whom will you trust, General Petraeus or George Soros? Does anyone think that Soros has any interest beside his own personal lust for power?
Who will defend our nation, General Petraeus or the Clintons? We know what the Clintons will do, nothing. They were in power for eight years. We know them. Bill was busy doing “other” things. Oh, no, Hillary has brought Sandy Berger back to help protect us…
Yup. We’re talkin’ hypodermic needles the size of turkey basters for that bunch.
JoeS said:
Sounds like a payoff for his previous services … doesn’t it?
Sausage,
Maybe I missed it but in your cleverly worded post about shades of grey and moderate democrats I failed to see your condemnation of the Moveon.org ad.
Do you find that ad offensive or do you support the running of that terrible ad by the mouthpiece of the left? Please enlighten us.
I guess Rudy is trying to say something here, but what?
Sausage, If there are so many moderate democrats, why don’t they speak up against the MoveOn.org ad? Why don’t they object to Code Pink and other groups disrupting numerous house and senate hearings? The point is, almost the entire house and senate leadership, including committee chairs, is very liberal.
During the last election cycle, the democrats were clever to seek out more moderate candidates, as well as some with military backgrounds, to beat out republicans in a few swing states. The result is the democrats run both houses of congress with their long tenured liberal leadership and committee chairs.
The democratic party is overwhelmingly very liberal and socialistic. That is the fact!
Michelle….Excellent Article !!! We all need to email Roger Ailes so we can replace Geraldo with Michelle !!
Great article! Wish I could be there for the GOE, but busy time of year for me with fiscal year close-out (have not been able to take leave in September since 1989). Besides it would take every bit of Military discipline to keep from doing physical harm in such a target rich environment. I really despise these professionally paid traitors. For those able to defend our memorials in DC this weekend, thank you for your time and great patience in facing down the party of treason.
Interesting commentary on this the from the left, courtesy of Jane Hamsher;
So if you are John Kerry, with ribbons on his chest, you are a patriot! A HERO! and how DARE YOU - you disgusting excuse for an American if you question him and his patriotisms.
But Petraeus? He’s a politician. He’s scum. He “betrayed us.” - MoveOn said, and the democrats wanted to say, but they couldn’t ….
Thomas, IMHO,I’m sure some of the Dem’s were well aware of that ad before it hit the stands. You know which one’s.
When will the stockholders of the NYT say enough is enough. Sales are down……they should be speaking up
Michelle stated:
Sausage stated:
The fact is, Sausage, that Michelle stated that the ‘Democratic Party’ and MoveOn are conjoined. The party leadership of the Democrats has consistently sunken to MoveOn-type lows, from accusing a 4-star US General of lying, to saying things like ‘Republicans couldn’t get people of color into a room unless they count the wait-staff’.
Yes, there are moderate Democrats, even hawks, out there - but look what the party does to them? Remember Joe Lieberman? The party threw him under the bus and it was moderate Republicans and Independents that kept him in office. Why? Because they realized that, even though 95% of the time he votes with the Democrats, he was right on the issue of the war, and he is, by most accounts, a straight-shooter and honest man.
The Democratic Party leadership has bent over backwards to kneel before the far-left altar all in the hopes of getting votes. They do not condemn the outrageous statements made by these fringe groups - they revel in them because to denounce them would make them sound more moderate and they wouldn’t get the campaign dollars from them.
After reading all the comments on this topic, it begins to look like the most interesting political campaign year ever that 2008 will be. NYT perhaps does not need the stockholders anymore if the radical left is willing to support their agenda with real money.
Moderate Democrats, like Moderate Muslims, are beheaded (figuratively and literally) by the Extremists within their ranks.
If you don’t like being broad-brushed, then take control of YOUR Democratic party and get rid of the extreme elements.
Is this not the exact kind of corruption the “new congress” was supposed to do away with, special interest groups “owning” a particular party? you don’t think the Dems could be hypocrites like their buddy Al Gore the Hippo crit?
… such as Joseph Lieberman, Brian Baird.
Very nicely put, Dandapani
Zell Miller was likely the last good Democrat. Hated by his own party for not hating America.
MM wrote:
If this refers to the supposed discout moveon.org got for the ad, it’s not true. They paid full price for what they got — a black & white full page ad with no guaranteed location.
As for the actual issue, General Petraeus clearly broke the promise he made when he was confirmed to give honest non-political progress reports. He betrayed the trust Congress put in him and deserved to be called out on that.
lgm wrote:
You’re a liar and a weasel.
Begone.
Potestas Democraticorum delenda est!
The same for moveon, codepink, and Soros.
My democrat senator, Jim Webb is supposed to be a moderate. I’m going to email him and ask if he will renounce the moveon ad. He wont, but I’ll ask anyway.
Ladies and gentlemen, I have asserted that today’s leftists are nothing more than rehashed communist propaganda. Many consider such views to be “right wing nonsense”, but when you say something so dramatic, it should be backed up by credible sources. Well, here it is, folks. Straight from the horse’s mouth, or the Bear’s mouth, to be more accurate.
Ion Pacepa, the former head of communist Romania’s intelligence station in West Germany, is the highest ranking KGB officer to defect to the West. He explains quite clearly where all this undermining of the American President on the international stage came from. The USSR. Vladimir I. Lenin’s “useful idiots” doctrine proved more brilliant than anyone could have predicted. It has worked to near perfection, and continues to this day even though it’s source is now defunct. He has written an op-ed in the Opinion Journal dated Aug. 7, 2007.
Please, read it all. Here is a taste:
This sounds very familiar, if you saw John F’n Kerry’s testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in 1971.
Does this not enrage you? Does this not enlighten you as to the origin and purpose of today’s slander campaign by the leftist “useful idiots”?
Mark Levin is right. They are simply Stalinists in our midst, not just MoveOn, but the Democrat Party itself. Today’s Jackass party has taken up the mantle of the KGB to destroy America as we have known it, to rebuild it as the United Socialist States of America. They are coming to Washington, DC, to continue their traitor tradition.
Don’t let them win, not in ‘08, not ever.
I just got a job email from my alma mater with a move.org job listing. I ought to take it just so I can gum up the works…
FIRST - where do you get your info about the Time’s article price? From the Times?
SECOND - Please enlighten us as to what portion of the General’s testimony was political in nature and not factual?
Brian72…
Thank you for that outsanding analysis of today’s defacto communist party, the democrats.
I am enraged. In fact, I have been for quite awhile now. Scumbags!!! We must not allow them to win.
In spite of what lgm said, moveon’s attack was treasonaous. General Patraeus is a hero who has earned the right to be treated with respect, not called a traitor. Those comments will embolden our enemies and could very well cause the death of American troops. Shameful and indefensible by any true American.
lgm is one of those whom made their mind up months ago regarding the Generals report, they all had their little speeches written weeks ago. The committee was only interested in listening to themselves, that was evident to the point of rude. As for the amount of integrity in the room the General had them all beat 10 to 1. I’m sorry make that 50 to 1.
Thanks for noticing! I was beginning to think that post went down the memory hole, just like the attempt by Ted Kennedy in 1983 to have Yuri Andropov deliver a television message to the American people amounting to a campaign ad for Walter Mondale (D-MN) against Ronald Reagan (R-CA). But don’t you dare question their patriotism! It’s patriotic to help the enemies of America defeat her, so you’ll be around to pick up the pieces, just like Quisling in Norway.
I’m fed up with these people, I’m mad as hell and I’m not gonna take it anymore!
I’ll let someone else do my long-winded talking for me this time. This article online from the AP:
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Amen.
Sure, as long as the democrats get the grey (benefit of the doubt) and the republicans get the black and white. (no benefit of the doubt). When posting, try to remember that you’re on a conservative website filled with people highly educated on the issues - that is, unless you enjoy wasting your time.
The trouble is that none of them happen to be running for President of the United States.
What a load of crap. Hillary does not respect any of our uniformed officers, because when she was in the White House before, she ordered all military personnel in the White House to dress in civilian suits in her presence. She did not want to be forced to gaze upon a U.S. Marine in dress blues, or an Air Force Col. carrying the “nuclear football” in uniform.
I have first hand knowledge of this, because my first cousin was on the Air Force One crew for 20 years, just retired in ‘05. He worked directly for Dan Quayle, Al Gore, then got promoted to the President’s communication outfit during Bubba’s first term. There he remained through all the rest of Clinton’s terms, and Bush 43. He went to Baghdad with the President on thanksgiving in ‘05, among many other trips around the world. When the President needed to get the Pentagon or anyone else on the secure phone from the plane, he’s the guy that worked the encryption for security. He knows things he can never tell. I have pictures of him with Mr. and Mrs. Clinton, and Mr. and Mrs. Bush. I have pictures of him at his work station on the aircraft, hanging out with W, showing the Prez how it all works.
So don’t feed me that crap about Hillary respecting anything military. I know better.
MoveOn.org………… AKA Left wing bomb throwing lunatics.
I forgot to address the rest of that. We have been there before, and that didn’t work out so great for the “honor” of our military. You don’t honor the soldiers in the middle of a battle by saying everything they’ve sacrificed for has been an illegal lie, just for Halliburton. You don’t honor them by saying all you have done is for nothing, now let’s just quit. Unbelievable arrogant ignorance on the part of this dishonest slimeball politician. I’m just sick of her nonsense.
I’m mad as hell and I’m not gonna take it anymore!
Sigh…. Michelle, you really should make a phone call or two and you would find out the facts. Instead you elect to post hysterical posts about how the NY Times is making an in-kind contribution.
Let me clear it up for you, I did take the time to call the NY Times, I got referred to the right person, took me all of 15 minutes. I am guessing your form of journalism does not extend to making calls?
Well, I found out that you can place a standby ad, which is what Move On did. It is remnant advertising that will run when the NY Times has space on a seven day window. For that they charge a discount rate to advocacy groups, ANY advocacy group.
I imagine you will of course print a retraction of your false assertion at this point.
georgej (#35) Carthago est, potestas sunt.
jrlingreenbay asked:
Yes, and where do you get yours? I’m not the one who ran this discount theory up and down conservative blogoshpere with no sourcing.
As for Petraeus’ veracity: he reported a decrease in sectarian violence with so little evidence that the GAO refused to accept it. If it is true, the likely reason that its main goal (clearing Sunnis from most of Baghdad) has been achieved. See Matt Yglesias (blogger) for details. Other measures of civilian violence in Iraq are steady or up.
Hey Brian, don’t sugarcoat it, tell us what you really think.
Great job my friend. I couldn’t have said it better myself.
By the way, as a cop near DC until I retired, I got to know quite a few of the Secret Service guys and I can vouch for your take on the Clinton’s.
The GAO and the Petreaus report used the same data source, but the Petreaus report had additional, more recent data.
Also, given that Petreaus hadn’t released his report prior to the GAO report, they can’t reject something they haven’t seen. FYI, the last GAO update was on Sept. 9 and written several days before that, long before Petreaus gave his report, in which he said nobody but him had seen it. So you’re eith wrong on the GAO stuff, or you’re calling him a liar.
lgm.. Somehow I don’t think you’ll get it until the islamic flag flies over the white house.
Yes, it’s true, they are being so dishonest with their “respect” of our uniformed services. She will be held to account for this in the general election, I hope. Won’t happen in the primary, the rest of her opponents are fighting with each other over who can lose in Iraq the fastest. Some way to honor the troops, by invalidating all the fallen and wounded and taking our toys and going home. Great plan.
They refuse to address the fact that the Iraqi government has requested a long term security relationship with the United States, similar to how we are postured in South Korea. That sounds about right to counter the ambitions of the whackos in Iran. No one on the Democrat side wants to say what Iran will do, and what we should do in response. I think they want to do nothing, and if something bad happens it will be blamed on Bush, of course.
We have two test cases of what will happen. South Korea vs. South Vietnam. You also could throw Lebanon in there for a more direct example of what the Iranians would do with an American retreat.
Do we want southern Iraq to suffer the same fate as southern Lebanon? Iran is already trying to create another Hezbollah to meddle in southern Iraq, where there are massive oil fields and pipelines, not to mention the head of the Persian gulf and the two major rivers in the region. Strategically, we have to follow the South Korean model. Build up their security forces, reduce our presence and back them up with our superior firepower, which Iran cannot handle by the way.
If we follow what the Democrats suggest, the Vietnam model, where we just decide to quit, and then yank the assistance to them away, Iran will take southern Iraq, Syria will take western Iraq(Anbar), and the Kurds will declare independance in northern Iraq, inflaming our only NATO muslim ally Turkey. The Saudis will have to respond to Iran’s power grab as well.
This cannot happen. It will be a disaster like we have never seen before. Democrats will long for the days when we had the threat “contained”. The Islamists will consolidate their power and turn it on us again, only stronger and more dangerous, possibly nuclear.
Are the Democrats serious about protecting America? Absolutely not, they want to take your health care and make it another pork barrel Congressional boondoggle to raise taxes on everyone and consolidate their domestic powerbase, overseas threats be damned.
Not on our watch.
Oh by the way, where the hell is the progress report to Congress every six months on Kosovo? Why are we still there, on the ground? Can’t the brilliant U.N. handle this without our boots on the ground? What is the national security interest for the United States in Bosnia? Does anyone know or care? Oh that’s right, it was Clinton’s War, the non-right-winger War, so we don’t need constant media trashing and politicians grandstanding about how they know the generals are lying about the lack of progress. Who cares? That won’t hurt Republicans, so who gives a damn about our troops in Europe.
One more thing. I don’t remember anyone treating that political hack in uniform Gen. Wesley Clark like they have treated Gen. Petreaus. Now, don’t get me wrong, I do have a residual level of respect for anyone who serves the country. Talk about political Generals! The minute he took off his stars, he jumped right into the Democrat Presidential primary! Holding hands with fathead Micheal Moore didn’t turn out to be such a great strategy, so he had to “pull out now” from his own political career. Now he’s just a hack, like John F’n Kerry.
Hahaha I just saw the “Lies and Power” photoshop update! That is terrific!
Hey Michelle, put out a call for something similar on General Wesley Clark, see how the libtards like that!
What Floating ad?
I have a question. If, as the NY Times claims, the discount rate for
advocacy groups and the one given to moveon.org for the Petraeus ad was because
it was considered a floating ad, which the Times describes as ads that float
without a scheduled publication date, please explain to me this sentence
from the ad?
You might be thinking that the editors of the Times took it upon
themselves to use editorial creativity. The Times, however, issued a
statement saying they don’t review the content of advocacy ads.
As for that sentences’ specificity; Too claim it was a
floating ad is hard to believe. If that’s the case I want moveon.org
to start picking my lotto numbers because luck like that borders
on miraculous.
I just went to that MoveOn survey and let them have it.
I told them to MoveOn out of my country, and that they are the jerks who have “betrayed us”.
I feel a little better now:)
Coffee260 #59 -
Excellent catch….
Why would you request a ‘floating ad’ with a 7-day window if your ad is “today” specific????
It’s CYA time at the NYTimes…
What say you now, disbelievers?
I thought that too. That ad was meant to run on that one day, they are full of crap. Crapweasel nomination #738,021 for the Pew Dork Slimes.
I also gave moveon.org an email full. I’m sure they will take my comments to heart.
We’ll know that they did if The Weather Channel announces that hell has frozen over.
Listening to the overnight host on our local CBS radio affiliate last night, he also made the Eisenhower comparison and basically said: how can you fight a war with these jackass type of things going on?
Chalk up another response to MoveOn’s survey….
I loved the question, “What do you like best about MoveOn.org?”
I checked the ‘other’ box, and then wrote, “That you’re in the minority”.
Yes, I heard that also today and TODAY blows Perseus the NYT and the rest of the liars and traitors out of their lame excuse of a floating ad. All involved knew EXACTLY what they were doing. shame shame shame, bunch of losers.
Perseus being commenter #50 not General Petreaus.
Other comments:
Is there anything else you would like to share with us?
Are your toilet seats turned in the right direction? After all, you are progressive - right?
I just couldn’t help myself - sorry.
How can any of the Dem candidates for President have any credibility when they looked the general in the face and said they either weren’t going to listen him or called him a liar? Oh thats right we never go to war with a Dem in the WH. Well except for WWII, Vietnam, Bosnia, Somalia.
If you are not going to listen to your military leaders, not just the ones who you agree with, how can you be a leader? Is there any successful business that holds meetings and then shuts out opposing views because they don’t match up with the boss’s idea?
With Clinton you get military leaders like Wesley Clark, whom the first Clinton relieved of command for his handling of the Bosnia mission.
President Bush should be using the “bully pulpit” now and should have in the past. These traitorous exploits by the left need to be identified and shamed immediately. Keeping quiet does nothing for bi-partisan efforts. They are like the Islamofascists — they see a non-response as weakness.
Vote Democrat! We Invest in Failure (so we can make the highest political returns)!
Ed Koch was just on Fox explaining that all Dems should denounce bowel moveon-ment.
The Ike headline works only on the premise that far left liberals consider US actions in WWII as anything other than an opportunity for a political ploy; that we beat back the forces of forever darkness by the application of blood, guts and military might means not one thing in this world to the minion puppet rulers at moveon.
iamsaved - you are so correct.
If I was in the President’s position - I would be using that position to call out all these dispicable acts of ‘politics before integrity’.
He’s got no political life after 2009 - why not be the GOP bulldog?
What, does he think he’s going to get any consideration from the Dems anyway????
Let ‘em have it.
Meanwhile, two new amnesty bills continue to move through Congress.
Is anybody paying attention?
MM — Thanks for the link to the moveon survey. That was a great way to end my day!!
Hmm, given the state of their finances maybe it’s not that hard for it to happen? If you’re bleeding money, as the NYT is, then you’re not selling as much advertising as you could.
Perhaps this is just more proof that the NYT is going belly up.
There is only one place that I want to see moveon.org … that is in my rear view mirror once the American public finally wakes up and kicks them and the Dems that support them to the curb …
This thread is about MoveOn, Democrats and the GWOT. You might want to go over here for amnesty topics. You got anything to say about General “Betray us”?
Back on topic, here is a nugget from Robert Kaplan, via Hugh Hewitt:
This debate has nothing to do with national security for the Democrats. It’s all domestic politics and nothing else. Pathetic.
I also clicked on the moveon site and answered their questions. Under the part where they ask what is the best thing moveon does for you, I wrote, “you remind me to keep my gun cleaned and loaded.”
i think this is a good point to bring up around the clout MoveOn.org “Thinks” it has in this country.
they engineered that Ned idiot’s candidacy in CT and used the war as the wedge issue to knock Lieberman down.
but then Ned Lamont got his head handed to him in the general election.
so where is MoveOn’s staying power?
they hit here and hit there….but where is their real time presence on the ground?
Someone with media clout and some cash needs to out everyone of the MoveOn players.
Why should they remain anonymous….including that vile pig, George Soros, the self-hating Jew.
Out all of them and shine the light on their personal lives and who they move and sit with- what are their ties to CAIR and the jihadist front groups that are advocating for “Arab American rights”.
Nail them to the wall. They deserve to be buried.
In Update: Jon Ham looks at John Edwards and imagines Wendell Willkie…, Silky states:
Evidently, then, by his own admission, Silky isn’t an American.
I think we should begin the process of removing his Congressional pension, and of making him pay back what he has received so far. After all, you have to be an American citizen in order to be eligible for a Congressional pension.
I never thought I’d see a day where a political party would become so beholden to a radical group like Moveon.
It is unbelievable to me that so few Dems (and there have been a few) have denounced Moveon for that Petraeus ad. Evidently, anything is fair game if it advances their agenda - even sliming a public servant with 25 years of unblemished service.
I’m hoping that Moveon will eventually keep pushing the envelope of decency until they eventually overstep and really make people mad. At that point, it may be that they cost the Democrats a few seats in Congress and maybe the presidency.
But then again, maybe that’s just wishful thinking.
I think their getting pretty close Rick. Some High profile names are calling them out of their hole and being shown for what they really are. Pond scum.
OT, sorry! But I just saw Geraldo apologize on The Factor about the spitting comment…
Sounds to me like Michelle won! After all she has more class in her little finger then he does in his diseased racist hate filled body.
When we see TRIALS FOR TREASON against such a MoveON for this ad, for Pelosi and Kusinich for their interviews overseas denouncing the American war effort on Arab TV, etc, and Dim politicians who have viciously and without foundation slandered the American commanding General in the field of battle, then the GOP will be able to win my vote.
I don’t think Fred the Clinton Enabler has the balls to push for Justice, here.
Oh, the DIMS and the MoveOn.Org crowd et, et al, have ALL vastly overstepped the bounds of DECENCY.
They’ve also vastly overstepped the boundaries of what is required of fiduciary obligations to the community by members in good standing, for the preservation of that community!!!
What it takes to make Americans, with a sense of what it takes to preserve America, angry enough to do what is legitimate about setting things to right… who knows what THAT will take!
I begin to suspect they’ve already been thoroughly boiled to death in their little froggy cooking pot of water!
This ad, the Vietnam War Memorial, several of the Dims on Arab TV….
IS ANYTHING on the planet rank enough to make them even notice the putrid smell?
All that is needed for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing.
The good guys are busy in the “hot tub”.
Fahget about it!
Took the little Snidely Whiplash cartoon character long enough, didn’t it?
May it bring a full 1,000-fold harvest of the full return of its total intrinsic value back into his life.
Honestly I am assamed how much ALL of the media has shown of it. Just more free add for those fruit cakes.
He needs our support, these guys are under way to much pressure, the more we apply the more WILL die. Let these guys WORK, they are Americans, they know what they are doing, they are US, give these folks all the HELP you can. GBTUSA
Anyone else remember that a while back, they threw a widow lady out of the Congressional balconey because of a patriotic T-Shirt, I don’t rmember if she was a widow of an Iraq-deployed soldier, or of a fireman who died at 9/11, but they objected to her T-shirt - IN THE BALCONY, where she was sitting QUIETLY! I think it had an American flag or something???
I’ve been trying to figure out why the DIMS had HER tossed but REFUSED to follow their own protocol regarding loud vocal protests from Code Pink.
Why aren’t the GOP members screaming non-stop bloody murder until the DIMS resolve that APPROPRIATELY before being allowed to continue with ANY other business? In reverse positions, DIM CONGRESSMEN would be standing WITH THEIR BACKS to the GOP Congressmen during all sessions, UNTIL SOMETHING IS RESOLVED!
The GOP doesn’t want my vote - they want to APPEASE MoveOn.Org and Code Pink.
Our soldiers aren’t dying for this garbage, they are fighting and dying for our Freedom and Liberty - NOT for murder, not for thievery, not for SLANDER, not for TREASON, NOT FOR OLIGARCHY!
While the GOP are sucking up to the DIMS for THEIR approval, I’m going to be looking for candidates with the cahones to make the men who died at the ALAMO proud of them.
Oh, yeah, in honor of today’s headline, here is something terribly appropriate from The Man himself:
“Why aren’t the GOP members screaming non-stop bloody murder until the DIMS resolve that APPROPRIATELY before being allowed to continue with ANY other business? In reverse positions, DIM CONGRESSMEN would be standing WITH THEIR BACKS to the GOP Congressmen during all sessions, UNTIL SOMETHING IS RESOLVED!
The GOP doesn’t want my vote - they want to APPEASE MoveOn.Org and Code Pink.
Our soldiers (See…Rye Mcneil (27)…Tankdog sealkiller currently on second deployment, and Michael Mcneil(24) engineer, seeker of Iranian IEDs and awaiting second tour) aren’t dying for this garbage, they are fighting and dying for our Freedom and Liberty - NOT for murder, not for thievery, not for SLANDER, not for TREASON, NOT FOR OLIGARCHY!
While the GOP are sucking up to the DIMS for THEIR approval, I’m going to be looking for candidates with the cahones to make the men who died at the ALAMO proud of them.”
Indeed…but alas the, head in the sand, unbending, self important,true to form, sheeple(lol), we do nothing wrong and everything..(aj,peep,bear…in SF no less(lol)and soapthe “good christian”…. “right”…lol
“What it takes to make Americans, with a sense of what it takes to preserve America, angry enough to do what is legitimate about setting things to right… who knows what THAT will take!”
Wow…again indeed. No reply from the sheeple, someone accused so… (you know who you are) here I see…whats new?
“All that is needed for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing.
The good guys are busy in the “hot tub”.
Fahget about it!”
I am in love…lol…
Don’t stay in too long boys…come out come out wherever you are.
All praise aside, Ombre Rose has it exactly right. Yhe Right fiddles while we all burn.
Michelle, care to join the conversation once in a while?…any conversation?
What’s up pup? Looking for something in particular? Or just messing on the carpet?
Liberals always lose when their message gets out to America thus I support Michelle’s message of not moving on.
The NY Times closed below 20 bucks a share. This cannot bode well for the democrat party yet the republicans could still lose the upcomming elections. If they do we all will share in the blame.
And who are your sources lgm? And let’s just state how incredibly ironic it is that anyone - ANYONE - in Moveon.org would have any actual idea about whether the surge was working or wwouldn’t serve, don’t know anyone who serves, certainly have no family that would or has ever served - my point being you and “your kind” lgm have no clue whatsoever is working or not working. Your people would do anything possible to avoid doing anything constructive for this country much less serve if you were called to protect it. Look at George Soros, the man you defend: he’s a criminal. And God only knows how we let him or Arianna Huffington become citizens of our great nation. Which leads me to logically believe Patraeus over Soros, (and changed my mind over immigration to where I want it to be much tougher to become a citizen here.) You choose to believe Soros. I think that says everything about where you stand and what your agenda is..
Yet another rant, Do you even know what the GOP is? get a life. and leave me out of it.
DartBag-
Am i supposed to account to you because of your pinpricking associations made with Rose’s rhetorical question?
What do you do each day beside wear a shabby Dennis Miller outfit? Halloween is a good month and a half away.
You invoked Savage’s name the other day? He’d kick your pathetic hind end up one side the block and down the other for pointing a finger at people who you’ve decided you are superior to because you “blog vigorously.”
Savage described you on his show recently- as one of those guys who labors over “letters to the editor” while failing to do something real in their lives such as earn a living or create something of value.
No one responds to your childish pokes because you are boorish, tiresome, and pointless.
How many supply chains are you managing today to keep food, water, fuel, and firepower moving in the right direction to the right side of this conflict?
How many men are under your supervision?
How many tours of duty have you served?
How many military funerals have you served at in the past 42 years?
How many businesses have you built to create jobs for men and women who want to support their families?
How many men and women have you sponsored up and out of the hole that is alcoholism and addiction?
So, DartBag- how many more embarassing questions shall I ask you before you answer them with some specificity?
You mistake your own insolence for some kind of precoscious fantasy.
People like ajmontana really do not know what they are talking about and make no effort to find out, they would rather deal in ignorance.
In my call to the NY Times in requesting the advocacy remnant rate it was made clear, I spent less then 15 minutes finding out the information. Do you think if you spend $65,000 you do not know when they will run the ad?, you will just wake up and look in the paper? Of course if does not work like that, they will tell you at least the day before, this is clearly what happened. They told MoveOn and they issued a press release.
Still waiting for the retration from Michelle Malkin about her false assertions. I would suggest she do some basic journalism and actually call someone. In the future if she does not retract she has zero moral authority to criticize someone in the same situation.
It is also interesting to wonder how people who donated to Rudy feel about their money going to the NY Times? They are underwriting the NY Times journalism after all.
LOL, I think you have the two of us mixed up. Don’t hold you’re breath waiting for a retraction were right deal with it.
When people have no rationale for their own existence, and nothing positive to offer society, it is no wonder they offer blind hatred. Asking Moveon.org to develop humanity is liking asking klansmen to sing we shall overcome. It is asking too much.
http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/2007/07/20/moveonorg-needs-to-just-move-on/
I do not care if they move on. I just want them to go away. It is amazing that some of them claim to love the environment, given how toxic their rhetoric is for any normal breathing living individual.
Respectfully,
eric
OK, ajmontana you do not understand, I must confess I am not really surprised.
If Michelle Malkin prints something that is demonstrably incorrect and it is shown that it merits a retraction, anything less is doing exactly what she calls other journalists for task.
It may be late for a reply but here it is anyway.
Soap the “good Christian” was up at 3:00am to take a missionary to the Orlando airport. Then, he went to work for nine hours. After that, he fixed his daughters car. By 10:00pm, I was asleep – drained from a long day. Now, none of that may qualify as good in your book but, I do not consider what a raving lunatic cares about what I do anyhow.
If you must know, there is no good in me anyhow except that I live for CHRIST and it is HIM in me that makes me barely a person.
As for the rest of my life – if it concerns you – click on my name for my web site and see what my wife and I are doing for the least of the least of the people on earth. She is in Haiti living without her husband for 15 months now sacrificing for a just cause. You, as far as I can tell, run a hateful blog.
Sheeple? That is the best compliment you could have ever imagined to give me because the good Sheppard knows HIS Sheep. There are sheep and goats and the goats will be cast out and have no place in the Kingdom.
Sir, you harm me not.
If you like, I can explain what it is to be good?
I understand perfectly, it is you who are mis-lead. Have a nice day. end.
Ajmontana, I know there were some long words so it is not at all surprising someone such as yourself would struggle. Don’t worry about it, it is unlikely that it will get easier for you.
#46 Perseus:
The “standby rate” was a crock. It was run Monday, the day of Petraeus’s testimony.
If you believe that’s just a coincidence, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell ya.
There was nothing “standby” about the running of that ad. The Times gave Moveon a break in the ad price - a break they would never give a conservative group. They were shamed in giving Rudy the same rate - especialy now that the American Conservative Union filed a complaint aganst them and Moveon with the FEC.
Bob Beckel, lawyer and Democratic strategist said on Fox news that the ACU has a good case against Moveon and the NYT in their complaint before the FEC. Unless you think Beckel is shilling for the GOP, maybe you better revise your opinion about who should be issuing retratctions; you or Malkin.
Malkin doesn’t have to correct anything. Moveon got a special rate for an ad carefully timed and targeted to impact the testimony of Petraeus. And the NY Times was complicit by running the ad not in any kind of “standby” mode but exactly when Moveon wanted it run.
Rick,
This guys a waste of air.
“You invoked Savage’s name the other day? He’d kick your pathetic hind end up one side the block and down the other for pointing a finger at people who you’ve decided you are superior to because you “blog vigorously.”
Savage “the far right loon” as Bill O calls him, is a bigoted moron who would burn down this blog and you with it. But I must say I am not surprised at you being a regular listener of his. I have read your diatribes with amusement just as I read Kos with amusement. You and yours here are the far right comparison to the far left Bill O has pointed to. Your smug “spin” gets you points with idiots but not with me. I will answer any reasonable question posed and debate the issue, I will continue to DEMAND more from thiose with the pulpit to make change and I will continue to point out frauds like yourself who know hide behind paragraphs of nonsense that have no bearing on the argument posed.
You said the debate was irrelevent yet here you are daily, You say you don’t understand a simple question, what is at stake for you, and then have the audasity to say I am the adolescent. You run from real debate because to actually stick with the forum and answer the question makes you look like the ass you so obviously are….spin . spin, Spin is all you do and yes you do it like a good Kossak would.
But alas I am a patient man so I will try again…..do you think
that five years of Kerry, Kennedy, Gore, Durbin, Reid and Feingold, and five years of the Times and their 70+ Abu Gharab stories, and torture rhetoric, added to five years of European weenies, UN idiots, and Hollyweird blowhards and combined with the five years of inquiries, suppositions, testamonies, and investigations into the Bush administration played little to no role in the recruitment of steady supply jihadists to kill in Iraq?
A simple …YES or NO will suffice.
You can’t answer can you?
Rick, the question is could another advocacy group get the same rate and the answer is clearly yes as there are more than half a dozen examples prior to this including some that could be considered at least somewhat right wing. I have to be honest and say that almost anyone who appears on Faux News does not have a lot of credibility.
Ajmontana, does your mommy know you are playing on the internet?. Your comments are making less and less sense, maybe the Disney site is more your speed.