Americans against Ahmadinejad; Update: Planning to meet 9/11 families and ‘war critics’?!; Update: Want to protest in D.C.?; Update: Protests in NYC underway; Update: Mahmoud sucks up to the Left/tinfoil hatters on 60 Minutes, U.S. says Iran sending missiles to Iraq
Update 9:40pm Eastern. Need another reason to get off your duff and join one of the protests in NYC or DC tomorrow. Check out Allahpundit’s summary of the Iranian nutjob’s talking points from his 60 Minutes’ appearance, which was taped in Iran on Thursday.
Meantime, filed tonight by the Associated Press, charges from the US about Iranian-sent missiles in Iraq:
The U.S. military accused Iran on Sunday of smuggling surface-to-air missiles and other advanced weapons into Iraq for use against American troops. The new allegations came as Iraqi leaders condemned the latest U.S. detention of an Iranian in northern Iraq, saying the man was in their country on official business. Military spokesman Rear Adm. Mark Fox said U.S. troops were continuing to find Iranian-supplied weaponry including the Misagh 1, a portable surface-to-air missile that uses an infrared guidance system. Other advanced Iranian weaponry found in Iraq includes the RPG-29 rocket-propelled grenade, 240 mm rockets and armor-piercing roadside bombs known as explosively formed penetrators, or EFPs, Fox said.
An American soldier was killed Saturday and another wounded when an EFP hit their patrol in eastern Baghdad, the military said.
Update 8:00pm Eastern. A few photos from the protests earlier today…
Mad-moud will also be meeting with “American Muslim leaders.” Charles Johnson takes a guess at their identities and initials.
Update 6:30pm Eastern. For those of you who can’t make it up to NY tomorrow and are in the Washington, D.C. area, here’s info on a protest outside the National Press Club organized by The Israel Project:
MONDAY, SEPT. 24:
What: Ahmadinejad to speak at luncheon at National Press Club by videolink
When: Protesters needed from 11:00-2:00. Come for however long you can.
Where: Washington, DC: National Press Club, 529 14th Street NW
Please note: Attendance inside is limited to NPC members, their guests and accredited media only. Our protest will be held outside of the NPC Building at the corner of 14th and F Streets NW which is close to the Metro Center metro station.
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He’s ready for take-off. Are you?
Update: 9/11 family member Sgt. Tim Sumner passes along this flabbergasting FARS report and wonders which families he’s going to meet…
After having been rejected by the United States administration to visit the site of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is now planning to meet the families of the 9/11 victims, Fars news agency reported.
Fars, which is close to the presidential office, further reported that Ahmadinejad would also meet US war critics…
Yes, question their patriotism. And their sanity.
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In addition to the National Rally to End the Threat Now at noon on Monday at Dag Hammarskjold Plaza across from the United Nations and the Columbia U. student protest on Monday from 1:00pm to 3:00pm at The Columbia Gates. 116th and Broadway, there’s a rally against Ahmadinejad today at 12:30pm:
At 12:30 p.m. Sunday, New York City Council Member David I. Weprin (D-Hollis), chair of the New York City Council Finance Committee, will join other elected officials, community groups and civic leaders to protest Ahmadinejad’s visit and urge Columbia to rescind its invitation. The rally is to take place at Columbia’s main gate at W. 116th St. and Broadway.
Ahead of his visit here, the Iranian nutjob sent a shout-out to his Hamas homeboys…
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad reaffirmed his support for the Hamas authorities in the Gaza Strip, in a telephone call with the premier dismissed by the Palestinian leadership, a Hamas spokesman said Sunday.
“Prime minister Ismail Haniya spoke Saturday night with … the president of the Iranian Islamic republic Mahmoud Ahmadinejad,” spokesman Tahar Al Nunu said.
“He wished him well on the occasion of the month of Ramadan, and reaffirmed Palestinian-Iranian ties,” he added.
…and enjoyed an Iranian military parade of new long-range missiles, replete with “Death to the US/Israel” banners (via LGF):
Will Ahmadinejad’s hosts at his National Press Club luncheon videoconference chew on that?
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My heart goes out to Sgt. Tim and all the families that have to endure this total lack of respect.
Michelle, can you provide any insight into why a terrorist, who our president has identified as being responsible for the deaths of US military personnel, and who has sworn death to both America and our ally Isreal, will be allowed to roam freely on our soil and not be arrested? It is mind numbing that we speak of his “right” to move about freely in OUR land…
JWS: You want insight why a terrorist will be allowed to roam freely on our soil and not be arrested?
All you have to do is follow our own officials’ thinking and you’d see that they would let President Osama bin Laden do exactly the same thing.
On September 23rd, 2007 at 10:30 am, Sergeant Tim said:
I know. The question was mostly rhetorical, but my frustration with this is off the charts…
This is getting more exasperating by the minute … Next thing you know they will have UBL speaking at Columbia and visiting Ground Zero …
I can only hope that the demonstrations against this nutjobs visit get some semblance of the proper coverage in the MSM supporting the American people for a change … something substantial and real will be necessary to counterbalance the propaganda that Al-Jazeera and Al-Qaeda will make out of the whole thing …
You can bet that he will be presented by those supporters as a conquering hero on US soil looking like Caesar entering Rome …
I can only hope his plane goes down on the way to the USA … even though I am sure we would get blamed for it … at this point I really don’t care what the rest of the world thinks any more … with the few exceptions of those helping us in Iraq and Afghanistan they have all developed a very wide strip of yellow down their back sides …
Time for America to get tough …
I guess now Pelosi doesn’t have to travel all the way to Iran as she did Syria…
IMPEACH PELOSI, and /or anyone who meets with this terrorist & terror leader who kills US forces.
.
Whats the matter with them? I’m beginning to believe that the Dems and the left are really the extreme racists of the new century and they HATE IRAQI’s.
This will get coverage, but it might not be the kind of coverage we would hope for.
You see, our enlightened, objective media geniuses will determine that whatever problems Ahminthemoodforjihad has caused us, the real problem is McHalliBushitlerburton. When we get the Hilldebeast as President, all will be well. Sweetness, light and compassionate cultural exchanges with those that the right wingers have labeled our “enemies”, whatever that means.
Ban Bush from the UN!
/sarcasm off
How easy would it be for Jorge to just go down there and arrest this IslamoNazi?
shooter … I think you are on to something there …
I hope the Dems do try to meet with this nutjob …
It will show the American people just how anti-American the idiots are that we have running the Congress once and for all …
If they do meet with this guy he will go back and start spouting off all kinds of propaganda to the tune of more Dhimmitudinal Pelosi and Reid offerings for “peace” …
I guess we’ll know for sure if we see Nan carrying around her head scarf …
On September 23rd, 2007 at 10:36 am, DesertLover said:
…Time for America to get tough …
Unfortunately, that time is far past. Allowing this idiot to walk freely about our country may mark the low point in US history. There simply is no right or wrong anymore. We are failing on a daily basis on almost every count-foreign and domestic. Bush is beyond contempt, in my mind, for not ordering this terrorist to remain on UN grounds at all times, or be arrested…
Speaking of the Hilldebeast, she’s bravely facing the right-wing fury of Chris Wallace right now. She cackled at him! Yikes.
JWS
Although I agree about not letting him come here at all I am certain there are some sort of international UN protocols we have to follow in play here … perhaps someone more knowledgeable than I can enlighten us on that part of this official UN “visit” …
America got tough right after 9/11 … however this country has become so ingrained toward a culture of immediate gratification that (unfortunately) it will probably take another attack on our soil to ever get people to wake up and realize the problem did not just go away, will not go away when we get Bin Laden and will not end until this world-wide scourge has been purged from the face of the earth …
Bolton is on FOX…
DesertLover
Unless I’m wrong, we do have to let him attend UN functions as he pleases, but I don’t think we HAVE to let him roam about…
JWS
Thanks for the heads up … would much rather listen to Bolton than Hill … also just hearing that the NYT is finally admitting they gave MoveOn.Org a sweet deal for the Petraeus ad …
If I was dead, I’d be turning over in my grave right now but since I’m not dead yet, I am instead turning my attention to the internet and my keyboard.
I have written just about everyone even remotely involved in our government to express my outrage. Not that it will do any good, but it does help to lower the blood pressure a little. Even President Bush has not been spared my ire.
JWS
That is what I had said before about him going to the UN … but that was my belief on the matter … thought maybe someone could give us something more official …
couple of days ago I said …
The only way any of these terrorists should ever stand at ground zero is when the people get smart and rebuild the towers as a symbol of American resolve so the terrorists can stand on the street and look up and realize we will not let them continue to use that destruction as a propaganda tool on the internet or anywhere else …
Visiting diplomats from UN member states may travel within 25 miles of UN headquarters under normal circumstances.
I am not aware of any regulation that would allow this guy’s movements to be restricted more than that but I could be wrong. There may be a way to dao that but it would require a significant effort directly by the President.
trinitytim
Thanks … I was sure there were some sort of limits but other than movement between their embassy and the UN I wasn’t sure of details …
DesertLover
I hear you. It just seems so straight forward to me. He’s not someone we have philosophical differences with. He is murdering our troops. I agree with you that I’d love an official explaination for this…
trinitytim
Does this include those we have identified as enemy combatants?
Well, that was talking point filibustering, not much substance. No suprises there. That Bolton interview will probably be on HotAir before long, I’ll be sure to catch that. He’s the man who should be the next Secretary of State.
Brian72
Isn’t it amazing that a man who does nothing but speak in plain, easy to understand language is considered a threat? This guy rocks…
King on FOX…
He should be a on a No Fly List.
Look clsely at the “Death to America/Down with America” sign. If I’m not mistaken, the picture there on the sign is the WTC in flames.
How utterly vile.
JWs,
Anyone under indictment or otherwise charged with a felony could be arrested immediately upon entering this country.
As to whether or not a US political leader would have the cahones to do that remains to be seen. In the case of UBL, I think any leader that didn’t do that would be toast.
The key to arresting a foreign leader lies in the fact that the charges must be in place before the arrest could be made.
Jim M.
You are correct … I downloaded the picture and enlarged it to see it better … it is definitely a picture of a burning tower …
yep. nuff said. dont let him land here.
On September 23rd, 2007 at 11:39 am, RyanInSanJose said:
He should be a on a No Fly List.
Bullseye. We can put any of his minions on such a list, but the boss is off limits? My head is spinning. The guy has been identified as a murderer of our troops, and our “leader” lacks the b*lls to grab him when he has the chance?
trinitytim
Thanks for the info…
Did you all partake of the opportunity to enlighten the Iranian delegation at the UN. Their email is iran@un.int
I found it to be quite a refreshing experience.
Does he get a nice escort from some f-18 super hornets when he hits our airspace? I wouldnt trust this POS unescorted anywhere near a major U.S. city in a jumbo jet.
I guess there’s nothing else left except to say that it is a shame that our president does not have the power/ option of revoking this terrorists’ visa, thereby limiting his “right” to wander about our country as he pleases…
There is no way on this earth you could present the idea to our Founding Fathers that Freedom of Speech covers allowing this dirtbag to land on American shores ALIVE - and for him to keep breathing!
Those who are doing this are so deathly perverted, they don’t have the common sense required to keep on living.
Does anyone think for ONE MINUTE they would entertain this insanity if they were not TOTALLY DEPENDING on the GOOD AUSPICES of the people they hate most on this planet to be able to SUSTAIN THEIR VERY LIVES FOR THEM while they are this stupid?
Like an extension of one of their silly “Catch Me” group therapy sessions?
And by that, I mean that the insane Liberals are depending on the AMERICAN CONSERVATIVES IN THE MILITARY to preserve them in this antisocial psychopathic experiment - because if they were in a lesser nation, with a less capable military, a military HALF as unsympathetic to their cause, these lamebrain psychopaths wouldn’t dare try this stunt.
They wouldn’t try this on Bill Clinton, either - in fear of the Bimbo Eruption Committee.
You know what amazes me the most is that these stupid leberals don’t seem to understand that these very people are the ones who would behead them for even attempting to express an opionion not in line with theirs, or for being a homosexual, or for any other of their dingbat causes which violate the terms of Islam, “the religion of peace”. Yea, right.
I’ll tell you something else too, if the order came down to arrest Ach ma whatever, there would be about 30,000 NYPD cops fighting for the right to go get him.
I was hoping he would get an escort of F-15’s so maybe one of those guys would pass out due to high g-load and accidentally fall onto the FIRE button say maybe 3 or 4 times.
Oh well, I can still dream.
trinitytim
I think they should definitely escort his plane … I think about a dozen or so F-15s, and a couple of stealth fighters as an escort along with some stealth bombers and B-52s off in the distance for good measure should get his attention …
The man has diplomatic immunity. That being said, I see no reason why we can’t confine his movements to the UN grounds, the Iranian mission and points in between in transit.
nbarry… I wish that was the case. Unfortunately, Diplomatic Immunity only applies to his actions and potential crimes while on US soil. It has nothing to do with the regulations regarding movements of Heads of State speaking at the UN.
The real answer is to move the UN headquarters out of the United States. How about Iceland or maybe Antarctica?
This is what happens when you try to appease terrorists because we have allowed our country to become dependent on their oil.
It boggles my mind that we are sending billions of dollars to Saudi Arabia,Iran,Venezuela,Kuwait and now Iraq when we could completely bankrupt those terrorist nations by allowing domestic production in Alaska and the rest of the USA
The reason we will not arrest this slime ball is because of the Strait of Hormuz and the worlds dependence on the oil that flows through it that could stop if Iran fired missiles on the tankers.
People really need to read the history on the Alyeska Pipeline fiasco in Alaska and how the Department of Energy has forced us to import foreign oil when we could be energy independent.
We have more crude oil available to us in Alaska than all of the middle east yet because of our own Congress, production is banned.
In 1976 Arco discovered the largest single find of crude oil in the world yet the energy department forced them to cap the well and later decreed Gull Island to be protected nature preserve to make it impossible to extract the crude oil there.
ANWAR is another example.
Because the Liberals and Republicans have allowed our country to become energy dependent on the middle east, we probably will not arrest this puke because of the fear of the flow of oil being interrupted.
Just imagine if this guy gets Nukes.
How we will coddle and appease him then?
Well said Scotty.
What would Pres. Andy Jackson do.
trinitytim said:
I agree … and I can think of a couple of islands we use for aircraft and naval target practice that would work out quite nicely …
Yes, take your wreath and shove it!
This thread is much too vanilla. Allow me to liven it up a bit.
I think, for a couple of good reasons, we should let the terrorist enabling scum speak to his heart’s content wherever he can wangle an invitation.
First of all, at Columbia, there is the very important issue of academic freedom. I know most will disagree but it is the principle that is most responsible for the excellence of our educational system.
Now it is not practiced equally with regard to right and left but that too is useful - it reveals the left to be intolerant bastards.
Believe me when I say that David Horwitz’s campaign against this kind of intolerance has made tremendous strides over the last few years. And he bases his fight on the freedom that should be extended to conservatives.
To ignore academic freedom when it suits us and promote it only when we want something in its name is wrong. It’s one of those all or nothing propositions where you have to take the good with the bad. And things will not ever be equal between right and left on campus unless we can legitimately use the concept of academic freedom to demand that conservatives are heard.
Then there’s the notion that Ahmadinejad will convict himself out of his own mouth. The more he speaks the more dangerous people will see he is. In that sense, I support his appearance at the UN and Columbia because I know he’s going to say things so outrageous that the American people will have a better understanding of who we are dealing with - a mystical leader who believes himself the messiah’s messenger.
So okay - have at me. But be gentle…it’s my first time.
Our president is given to whoppers (WMD) and projection (He hates our freedoms). Have any Iranian troops been captured in Iraq? Would they have less of a right to be in Iraq than U.S. invasion forces? Does Iran have special forces running around the U.S. like Bush has in Iran?
Good day to you Rick …
Thanks for expanding on part of what I said in my #9 … I also said I think Pelosi and Reid should have their shot at a Dhimmitude Summit with him for the very same reasons you mentioned …
Alphonse …
I see you are posting the usual misinformation about WMD … you folks just refuse to accept that Britain, Germany, Russia, and virtually every intelligence organization had made the same assessment that there was WMD and more in Iraq … not to mention those 17 UN resolutions you always want us to go get that were ignored … as for hating our freedoms … what else would you call it? … these people want nothing but sheep that they can control through fear and intimidation …
you care for a beer or something once in a while? … can’t have it under their rule … penalty is death …
you have any gay friends … can’t exist un their rule … penalty is death …
you like to check out the bikinis at the beach … can’t have that under their rule … penalty for the woman is death …
not going to keep listing those things as anyone with any true sense of what this is all about already knows that most of the things libs crave will get them executed (read that as either beheaded or stoned to death) under the ROP …
wake up …
RickMoran… Your argument would carry more weight if this guy was not actively killing Americans as we speak. What possible good can come from giving this terrorist a legitimate platform from which to spout his hate. Answer: NONE.
This invitation has already proven David Horowitz’s position. There is no need to perpetuate this practice. The argument has already been won.
Alphonse…If you can’t understand the difference between the USA and Iran, then your comments are not worthy of a response. See my earlier post because you qualify as someone who clearly does not understand the true violence that we face should Iran and their buddies win this war on terror. Yes I said, War on Terror.
You have beat the WMD and Rights issue to death. You are a dangerous person and one who simply hates. Get over it and provide us with intelligent ideas on moving forward not backward.
What was it BUSH said after 9/11 regarding terrorists?
We will hunt you down!
Ok. He’s at our doorstep.
GET HIM.
Good one Gayle. LOL
“wonders which families he’s going to meet…”
With whom has he met?
But Rick, the left ALREADY has their full page NYTimes ad ready to defend amamadjihad. Planned botched jokes and CYA spittle like ‘but I wasn’t really driving’, ‘there was a GIRL in the car???’ , ‘but anyone can go to Syria’ crap, endless b.s., etc.
Above I mentioned that the left, the libs, the Dems , they ALL HATE IRAQI’s…think about it.
They say they’re not just lying about the war on terror so as to get a Dem in the White House,( they even try to say there is NO war on terror) and now we KNOW they do NOT support the troops (NYT AD), so that only leaves racism, right?
I mean if it were the republicans that opposed staying in a country until it was free, the libs would SURELY be playing the race card as they do with Mexico and all ‘brown skinned people’ and any other issue they can win a vote or two by race card playing.
An entire race can sneak into America for the ‘dream’, “we can’t turn anybody down as its their ‘human right’ to be here”, but somehow for the Iraqi’s that right to freedom and dream doesn’t exist?
The Democrats HATE IRAQ and IRAQI’s. Maybe they really do love this madjihad guy….the enemy of my enemy and all.
This should be a main
talkingreality point, if not soon, definitely for the six months prior to the ‘08 election..
Why not tell it like it is…NOW?
Rick said,
If people dont understand where this “crapweasel” is coming from by now they have their head so far up their collective rump they would have to be 5 miles from the sun for any light to penetrate. I dont support him in any sense speaking here but we are stuck with the decision and I agree he will convict himself with his BS diatribe.
FOX is reporting that Gilchrest of the MinuteMan Project has been uninvited once again at CU.
Me thinks this is Selective Free Speech on this campus and nothing could be more Un-American.
Well, if Columbia U. was allowed to let Hitler speak, in the 40s, which I certainly would doubt, the U.S. would have made very sure he was safe here and safely returned back to Germany. We would not let anything happen to the best commander the Allies had.
This is not an issue of Academic Freedom but about a terrorist, an assassin, a torturer, a leader that orders suicide bombers to blow themselves up, a murderer, that has an international warrant out for his arrest for murder.
Ahmadinejad was one of the kidnappers who held 52 Americans for 444 days on US soil at our Iran Embassy under international law.
He was directly involved in the assassination of Kurdish rebel leader, Abdul Rahman Ghassemlou in Vienna.
This is about the rule of law and Columbia University ignoring it to appease terrorists under the guise of enlightenment.
It truly is despicable.
If the world was not dependent on Iran letting oil tankers traverse the Strait of Hormuz, he would be tried and convicted for murder and genocide.
What does that say about Congress and our Energy policies?
What does that say about the environmentalists?
Finally, what does that say about Columbia allowing a known murderer to be invited to speak at their campus?
There are multiple sad realities here.
First, Ahmadinejad has diplomatic immunity, and particularly with regard to his ability to come to the United Nations there’s nothing we can do to prevent him from coming here.
Second, one of the inherent burdens of being a free society is that our enemies, foreign and domestic, are up to a point able to take advantage of that openness for their own hostile ends.
Third, those enemies invariably see the tolerance and forbearance they are allowed as weakness, and predictably respond with increasing levels of contemptuous and brazen behavior until they finally cross The Invisible Line.
Fourth, once they cross that line they find out - too late - that the sleeping giant they’ve awakened is, as Admiral Yamamoto put it, apt to react with a terrible resolve.
Right now, the Iranians are pushing the limits of our forbearance. They haven’t found it yet - although they’re getting closer all the time - and since 1979 have come to believe that there are no limits.
Ahmadinejad’s chutzpah in this instance - rubbing salt into the wounds of 9/11 and openly cavorting with his domestic enemy allies - reveals just how little respect the Iranian theocracy has left for us.
Sooner rather than later, the Iranians are going to find out where The Line is, by crossing it without realizing they’ve finally done so.
And then, tragically for the Iranian people, everyone is going to find out just how much pent up anger and fury is going to be unleashed by an American people who have endured insult after insult and seen too many of their citizens and soldiers murdered over the years by sneering mullahs who have no idea of the whirlwind they’re about to reap.
The tragedy is that I’d like to think that this outcome is unavoidable… but history strongly suggests that it’s not.
trinitytim
Yes, I agree that moving the UN out of here would go a long way toward purifying the air of Midtown Manhattan, but I suspect the reason our government hasn’t pushed for it is because its presence here makes it easy for our intelligence units to spy on foreign diplomats, especially when they indulge in the debauchery they are notorious for.
Kennedy’s ambassador Adlai Stevenson described the life of a UN diplomat as consisting of protocol, alcohol and Geritol. The only thing that has changed in 45 years is that Geritol has been superseded by Viagra.
trinitytim
I agree with you that moving the UN out of here would go a long way toward purifying the air of Midtown Manhattan. However, I suspect that the reason why our government has never pursued this course is because its presence here makes it easy for our intelligence units to spy on foreign diplomats, especially when they indulge in the debauchery they are notorious for.
Kennedy’s ambassador Adlai Stevenson described the life of a UN diplomat as consisting of protocol, alcohol and Geritol. The only thing that has changed in 45 years is that Geritol has been superseded by Viagra.
Scottydog,
Are you sure that there’s a warrant out for his arrest? If so, from what country was it issued and is it for murder?
Well said, Regulus. Thank you.
Rick,
With regard to academic freedom, yes, it is an important principle. However, with college tuition rising year after year faster than the overall rate of inflation, I think it’s time we established that students and their parents have a right to know just what they are getting for their dollars. Right now, we get more consumer protection in purchasing a can of dogfood.
For Columbia, the concept of academic freedom looks to be a one way street. It is really liberal left wing freedom they are pursuing.
If academic freedom was indeed the pursuit, the Minutemen would not have been barred from speaking.
And frankly, this goes beyond the issue of academic freedom. You are not free to shout fire in a crowded theater. You are not free to burn down a structure as an exercise in free speech. And you are not free to promote, host or participate in activities or speech calling for the destruction and overthrow of the US government.
One of the few crimes mentioned within the Constitution is the crime of treason. It is so important a concept that it was not left to the actions of the new government to outlaw it.
Iran and its president have been consistent in calling for the destruction, death and annihilation of the US. Even before he left for his trip to NY, Ahmadinejad was photographed saluting a large banner of the World Trade Center in flames which included the language “Death to America”.
Academic freedom? I think not. It is a leftist statement to the world that there are those in the US who side with those that want to destroy us.
One has to ask the question if Columbia is training future leaders, for whom are they training them?
Can’t remember the exact wording of the well-known quote… something about those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it…
/…and Nero fiddled.
Regulus:
You’ve nailed the real-time essence of the balance of power between nations, US and Iran.
All of this puffery about academic freedom will be chronicled as naive Moon Loon appeasement.
Sad part about academic institutions is they are lowering their standards faster than they can abandon them.
Case in point: NutJob’s invitation to speak as a “World Leader” at the CU “World Leaders Forum”.
I’m surprised they aren’t having his buddy Hugo come in at the same time …
and ship in the Oscar audience. those loons would love him.
sally can lead the cheerleading
I’m waiting for Sean Penn to show up at the UN or Columbia. I just don’t understand how these idiots at Columbia can give him a platform when they won’t allow ROTC on campus and they won’t have the Minuteman Project (no matter what you think of them) back either. Free speech is free speech and using their twisted logic they should all be up there too. Does anyone know if any of the former Iranian Hostages have been invited to the “speech”? I’ve read and heard multiple places where quite a few believe that he was one of their “handlers” and I would believe them before I would believe Alan Colmes who told one of them to his face about a year or so ago that he was “mistaken”. This guy was there, Colmes was not.
I find this one of the most sickening things I’ve seen in a while. These buffons at Columbia puff themselves up about their intelligence and how the rest of us are just stupid, hayseed hicks. These tools have no clue.
Our prayers are with you and all Michelle. Please take care. I’m unable to attend but will be praying and watching. Give it your all, I know you will.
Ok, I can take an early lunch… I’ll be there: 14th & F NW!
Why in the h*ll is the USA allowing him to even wander around anywhere in this country other then to the UN? We have no diplomatic relations with Iran, they have no true embassies, and they are considered an enemy country. I am flabergastted!
I wonder if the alumni and regents finally realize the are nothing but milk cows to the loons that run this silly school?
Well, you see, Nancy wasn’t able to meet him during her trip to Syria, so of cource she’ll have to do it now…
We’re like a football team that can score at will, and stop every attempt at positive yards from the other team, killing ourselves with stupid penalties…
We’re doing it to ourselves at this point, and it’ll take something major to fix it.
I’m just afraid that if a Dem gets the white house, and they attack again, we’re won’t respond, and thus only invite more attacks…
I still say that Americans should confront him at every turn and throw pork chops at him.
That being said, considering his LEADERSHIP ROLE in the invasion of our Iranian Embassy, the slaughter and hostage taking, torture and holding for 444 DAYS, I see no reason why he shouldn’t be decimated at any point during transit in which anyone can get a clear shot at him. LEGALLY. With $$$Millions for a reward.
[Swift of Stalin to get Liberals to declare it "NOT SQUARE DEALING" for the Good Guys to take out the bloody vicious DICTATORS any way they can, whenever and whereever they can, huh? Yeah, you are obligated to deal squarely with vicious bloody dictators. How self-serving is THAT stupid platitude! So LOL!]
I remember the story of the Ginger Bread Man, at the end of the story, when he gets to the river with the large crowd of people and animals chasing him, wanting to eat him, and he gets to the river and decides to take up the offer of the FOX to take him across the river safely and protect him from the mob!
This idiot knows the world is full of Foxes who are after him.
May he find a lot of them, sooner, rather than later.
On September 23rd, 2007 at 1:24 pm, DesertLover said:
trinitytim said:
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On September 24th, 2007 at 12:20 am, chow said:
I still say that Americans should confront him at every turn and throw pork chops at him.
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OH YEAH!!! MEGA DITTOS!!!
That is worth saying again! Very well worth saying again!!! HEAR HEAR!!!
Not exactly! They’ve shown us before wha tthey will do. THEY WILL RESPOND!
They’ll send a delgation begging them to let us make heavy reparations TO THEM to make up for so deeply offending them so badly they felt compelled to “get our attention” that way!
Are alumni and donors of Columbia University demanding their money back for this atrocity? Are current students threatening to withdraw and demanding a refund for money spent? C’mon people, money talks…
Michelle, your lead “Update 9:40pm Eastern. Need another reason to get off your duff and join one of the protests in NYC or DC tomorrow,” suggests the need to take a break, maybe get a back rub. No need to badger your readers with your baseless presumption that they are slackards.
Sometimes I wonder if the Leftinistra in this country are coaching our enemies or if our enemies are coaching our Leftinistra.
They speak they same language, do they not?
“Let the Games Begin”
Monday, well this is going to be an interesting day to say the least, OK, since you’re here Ahmadinejad, “Bring it!” show us again what a pile you are.
Meanwhile the Senate will probably try and sneak Amnesty under the radar, after seeing two spanish language commercials on Sunday night football (after the second one I turned it off) I’m sure they will vote during the distractions of the day.
The U.N is having a “Climate Summit?” since when is the U.N movie critics? What next a review of “when harry met sally?” Getting together for an al gore provoked topic for some michael moore type doorstop winning film, seems a little lame with all the other issues of a more immediate concern.
Hillary dances her Hsu’s off and shrugs it off like its nothing she accepted $850,000.00 from a scam artist and just says “everyone else did it”. Shes a damn crook plain and simple and so far getting away with it unchallenged.
Interesting Monday indeed. Bring It!
I am musing about a simple paliative measure that would make it “awkward” for the Madjad to visit Ground Zero or even the Columbia campus.
Prepare a nice oily emulsion of pig fat, water, sufficient emulsifying agent, and a touch if nice red food dye. There is nothing in it that is damaging to the environment, animal, or human, except for a perverse sect centered on Mecca. Spray sufficiently around the areas he wishes to visit.
Nae, that would not be nice.
{^_-}
I really fail to see the problem with Ahmadinejad speaking. It shows the wonderful nature of the USA to allow him to do so, despite our huge differences.
LOVE the fact people are branding him a terrorist! I mean, that makes perfect sense…. anyone who is against us - TERRORIST!!!
What does Mrs. Clinton have to say about this visit?
Morning All …
This is off topic but please forgive me … on Fox and Friends they are getting ready to have the US Marine Corps Silent Drill Team perform …
If you have never seen them you should try to catch it … they are awesome …
Semper Fi
Sausage;
You must be smoking pot to even post such a ridiculous comment.
Regarding those comments - too absurd to even respond.
It’s something stronger than pot, maybe horse manure.
Who knows, maybe Ahmadinejad really entered through those open borders.
Maybe he can meet the illegals at Taco Bell for lunch.
Seems they all are given a free pass to enter this country - no surprise there.
What’s Bush’s take on this BTW?
GM AJ!
Yeah…at least maybe consumed for breakfast. You know, hippies like that natural stuff.
Would you have let Hitler speak? Stalin? Mao?
Or how about Arafat? What am I saying, of course the Left would. They lionized Slick Willy for legitimizing Arafat as a world leader, rather then treating him as the terrorist scum he was.
Bet they wouldn’t let Jesus or GOD speak if their lives depended on it.
Good Morning,
I havnt heard his take on columbia engagement, but did on ground zero.
You think Ahmadinejad is comparable to Hitler, Stalin and Mao?
I totally disagree with the views of Ahmadinejad but I still think this is what makes America great - the fact he can come here and say them.
The American president could NEVER do this in Iran.
Surely this is what we are fighting for - freedom.
William Teach
Fox interviewed the Pres of Columbia U. and asked him directly about inviting Hitler … his response … yes … as long as the U.S. was not at war with that country …
Well … Iran declared war on the U.S. when they took our embassy workers hostage in 1979 … 28 years ago …
Obviously this idiot is claiming that unless Congress passes a formal “Declaration of War” that we can’t be at war with anyone … he seems to not be able to comprehend (as no liberal seems to be able to do) that we are at war … not with a specific country as in conventional wars … but with a perverse ideology that wants to take the world backwards 800 years …
They just don’t get it …
Maybe some of those entertaining the thought that it is good to have diverse opinions on the table should consider it ok to invite Ted Bundy or Hannibal the Cannibal Dalhmer to speak? After all we need to find out about these folks and see their side of the issue! If you are looking for a moral compass you won’t find it in the administrative offices of Columbia U or the NYTimes. There will be a lot of blood on the hands of professors, journalists and leaders who have willingly chosen a path of destruction and deceit.
Where’s Anne Coulter? I’d love see her get a shot at Ahmadinjihad.
The difference being that Ammie actually IS a terrorist…
Or was that whole hostage thing beack in the late 70’s a big misunderstanding?
He’s sending men and materials to insurgents in Iraq. He is actively helping kill not just American Soldiers, but also innocent civillians.
How the hell can you be in favor of this???
trinitytim
I posted the links yesterday to the facts about the warrant for his arrest.You can click on the numerous links from Joseph Farah’s editorial on Iranian President Mahmood Ahmadinejad
He lead an asasination team into Viena where they killed a Kurdish leader, Abdul Rahman Ghassemlou.
The relevant quote:
“Charges against Ahmadinejad have been handed over to the public prosecutor’s office, according to Interior Ministry spokesman Rudolf Gollia.”
Keep in mind those charges where filed in 2005
Columbia has said that they would not have invited him if we were at war with Iran. Well, as far as I’m concerned we are at war with Iran. And we have been since 1979.
words fail. it is such a disgrace that any US citizen, regardless of political affiliation is meeting with this terrorist because they HATE Bush.
My suggestion, if they think the little man from Iran is so wonderful, why don’t the board his private jet back to Iran and go live under his rule. Buh-Bye,,,
disgraceful.
Poor Ahmadinejad, he’s so misunderstood. He didn’t mean destroy Israel. It was just a figure of speech. And he would never allow weapons into Iraq… to be used on American troops… It must be some kind of mistake. Oh, and his nuclear ambitions are for peaceful purposes. And no, he couldn’t have been one of the hostage takers in 1979… that’s just crazy talk.
Mean ol’ conservatives… you should be ashamed of yourself… labeling him as a terrorist.
1) He hates Israel, as do most in the Arab world - including many of the leaders who get millions in support from the USA. So are they ALL terrorists because of that? (There is a New York Times article about his Israel comments - but I don’t expect you to read it as we all know the NYT is PURE EVIL!!! etc)
2) Because we all know American weapons have certainly never killed hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians in Iraq.
3) Who should decide what countries can have nuclear power or weapons?
4) No proof he was one of the hostage takers in 1979
I’m quite surprised you didn’t mention 9/11….
What a pleasant surprise at Columbia U.!!
WOW!! Bollinger absolutely SLAMS Ahmadinejad…and he no like it!
Ha ha ha ha haaaaaaa!!!!
From the article you cited:
“All official translations of Mr. Ahmadinejad’s statement, including a description of it on his Web site (www.president.ir/eng/), refer to wiping Israel away. ”
“So did Iran’s president call for Israel to be wiped off the map? It certainly seems so. Did that amount to a call for war? That remains an open question.”
So what definitive proof do you have to bolster YOUR argument from that article?
HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS? Each time that number has been mentioned, it has been contradicted.
And - why do you seem to claim that the US is the major cause of death to civilians when the insurgents and Al Qaida are the primary perpetrators of the use of car bombs and the main cause of civilian deaths and injuries?
Would you have allowed Adolph Hitler’s Germany to have nuclear weapons?
Who should decide or at least have a say is the United States / NATO / United Nations - with the US as, historically, the greatest force for freedom in the world.
Several of the hostages themselves have identified him as one of their captors.
sausage
You are wrong. All the 1979 Embassay hostages have said that it is was Ahmadinejad who was the ring leader and supervised the torture of our citizens.
Here is a Russian newspaper published photo that proves it but I am sure you will say it proves nothing.
BTW, I am curious,are you an American?
Oh yeah, I forgot.
What would General Norman Schwartzcoff (sp?) do?
If Ahmadinejad wants to meet allah after badmouthing the USA, then lets arrange the meeting…