All eyes on the U.N.; Bush challenges the farcical Human Rights Council; Cuban delegation walks out; Update: Soros-bots arrested; Update: Interview with a real Iranian human rights activist; Update: U.S. walks out on A-jad

By Michelle Malkin  •  September 25, 2007 08:40 AM

Update: U.S. walks out on A-jad.

When Ahmadinejad was ushered to the podium of the General Assembly to speak, the U.S. delegation walked out, leaving only a low-ranking note-taker to listen to his speech, which indirectly accused the United States and Israel of major human rights violations. The Iranian president spoke hours after French President Nicolas Sarkozy warned the assembly that allowing Iran to arm itself with nuclear weapons would be an “unacceptable risk to stability in the region and in the world.” Earlier, German Chancellor Angela Merkel threatened tougher sanctions against Iran if the country remained intractable on the dispute over its nuclear program. Iran insists the program is purely peaceful, aimed solely at using nuclear reactors to generate electricity. But the United States and key European nations believe the program is a cover for an Iranian attempt to produce nuclear weapons.

Allahpundit’s got the speech vid.

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While A-jad lies about his commitment to “human rights” onstage at the U.N., watch our latest dispatch from Columbia yesterday–an interview with Iranian activist Banafsheh Zand-Bonazzi:

Update 5:00pm Eastern. A-jad has begun his U.N. rant. After his requisite homage to the 12th imam, he decries the “enemies of humanity” who are threatening women.

Oh, the gall. Flashback:

Update 4:30pm Eastern. As A-Jad prepares to take the stage again, Congress passes a denunciation resolution…and takes steps to divest from terror.

Update 1:00pm Eastern. Soros stooge alert…

About a dozen anti-war protesters were arrested Tuesday morning during a peaceful demonstration of President Bush’s speech before the U.N. General Assembly.

The arrestees were among about 400 protesters opposing the Bush Administration’s war in Iraq, and its incarceration in Guantanamo Bay of more than 300 men on suspicion of terrorism or links to al-Qaida or the Taliban. Many in the crowd wore orange jumpsuits in solidarity with the Guantanamo detainees.

The arrested demonstrators were taken into custody by police after kneeling on the sidewalk in an act of civil disobedience at the rally near the United Nations. One of them, 58-year-old Bill Ofenloch said they were trying to serve an “arrest warrant” on Bush for “high crimes against humanity.”

Members of the anti-war group Code Pink performed a bit of street theater where a person wearing a Bush mask was arrested.

“What do we say?” shouted Code Pink’s Medea Benjamin. “Arrest the criminal!”

Update: 12:08pm Eastern. Lunchtime viewing…Check out the first of our video reports from Columbia yesterday.

Update 11:50am Eastern. Here’s the vid of the Cuban kabuki dance.

Update 11:15am Eastern. Quote of the morning from Rich Lowry

Liberals like to say of the Bush administration’s allegedly militaristic foreign policy that if the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail. Likewise, if the only tool you have is dialogue, everyone looks like a reasonable interlocutor.

Update 10:19am Eastern. Bush has concluded his brief speech touching on Myanmar, education, disease, and freedom. The Cuban delegation walked out when Bush raised human rights issues and the Castro regime. Bush ended with a challenge to the farcical Human Rights Council.

His speech seems to have been eclipsed by the news that Venezuelan thug-in-chief Hugo Chavez won’t be attending the U.N. session this week. Must be tired from his partying with Kevin Spacey.

One thug gives a shout out to another:

The Venezuelan leader, who is expecting a visit from Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad later this week, said he spoke by phone with the Iranian leader on Monday after his tense showdown at Columbia University in New York.

“I congratulate him, in the name of the Venezuelan people, before a new aggression of the U.S. empire,” Chavez said, adding that it seemed Ahmadinejad was the subject of “an ambush.”

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President Bush will address the United Nations at 9:45am this morning. He’s trying to ensure that today does not become Mahmoudapalooza, Part II. There’s a reception tonight for world leaders and Ahmadinejad’s invitation got “lost in the mail.” Too bad his Columbia U. invite didn’t get lost in the same batch:

President Bush will address the U.N. General Assembly this morning at 9:45 a.m. EDT. Bush wants the U.N. to uphold its pledge to fight for freedom in lands of poverty and terror, and plans to punctuate his challenge by promising new sanctions against the military regime in Myanmar.

Bush is expected to mention Iran in his speech—but only briefly, citing Iran in a list of countries where people lack freedoms and live in fear. The White House wants to avoid giving any more attention to Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, whose splash of speeches and interviews has dominated the days leading to the U.N. meeting…

… His speech, said White House spokesman Dana Perino, is about “upholding the promise of the U.N. founding.” Bush aides say that by design, the address will stick to broad themes.

What it is not about, Perino said plainly, is Iran…

… Behind the scenes, the U.S. is aggressively pushing for a new round of Security Council sanctions against Iran for its defiance on the nuclear issue.

Bush did not expect to cross paths with Ahmadinejad in the U.N. building.

The Iranian leader also would not be attending the president’s reception for fellow world leaders at his hotel in the evening.

“Lost in the mail,” Perino said of Ahmandinejad’s invitation.

Anne Applebaum at the Washington Post gets to the heart of why Columbia U. failed yesterday:

Iran is experiencing an unprecedented wave of political executions and death sentences — more than 300 since January, according to the Boroumand Foundation — and there is renewed pressure on the media.

In that atmosphere, it was deeply naive to imagine that the Iranian president would enter into a “vigorous debate” with students who were deploying their “powers of dialogue and reason,” as Columbia University President Lee Bollinger stated before the event, or that he would answer the appropriately aggressive questions Bollinger put to him — which of course he didn’t. (To a question about persecution of gays, Ahmadinejad responded: “In Iran, we don’t have homosexuals like in your country.”) All things being equal, Columbia would have done better to ignore him, instead of feeding the media circus that serves his purposes. It’s not as if he is deprived of a platform in this country: Only last week, he ducked and dodged his way through a long interview on “60 Minutes,” and his pronouncements regularly appear in media of all kinds.

Nevertheless, it would have been wrong, once he’d been invited, to ban Ahmadinejad from speaking: To do so would have granted him far more significance than he deserves and played right into his I’m-the-real-democrat-here rhetoric. Instead, the university should have demanded genuine reciprocity. If the president and dean of Columbia truly believed in an open exchange of ideas, they should have presented a debate between Ahmadinejad and an Iranian dissident or human rights activist — someone from his own culture who could argue with him in his own language — instead of allowing him to be filmed on a podium with important-looking Americans. Perhaps Columbia could even have insisted on an appropriate exchange: Ahmadinejad speaks in New York; Columbia sends a leading Western atheist — Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens or, better still, Ayaan Hirsi Ali — to Qom, the Shiite holy city, to debate the mullahs on their own ground.

I realize that isn’t likely. But neither is it likely that this past week’s free-speech-vs.-nasty-dictator debate, complete with sputtering New York politicians and puffed-up university professors, achieved much either. On the contrary, it focused attention in the wrong place.

Instead of debating freedom of speech in Iran, here we are once again talking about freedom of speech in America, a subject we know a lot more about. Which is exactly what Ahmadinejad wanted.

We interviewed one of those Iranian-American dissidents yesterday outside the front gates and Columbia and will have a clip up at Hot Air later today.

Meantime, as Mahmoud prepares to deliver his U.N. speech, Iran has released another Iranian-American activist:

Iran has released from jail peace activist Ali Shakeri, the last of four Iranian-Americans imprisoned in recent months after being accused of stirring up a revolution, a judiciary spokesman said Tuesday. Shakeri, a businessman and member of a California-based democracy group, the Center for Citizen Peacebuilding, was arrested while trying to leave Iran after visiting family. He was jailed four months ago in Tehran’s Evin prison.

He and three other Iranian-Americans were charged with endangering national security — an accusation they, their families and their employers denied. “He was released based on 1 million rials (about $110,000) bail last night. Shakeri is able to travel abroad if a … judge permits him,” Mohammad Shadabi, a spokesman for the judiciary, told The Associated Press.

The charges against Shakeri have increased tensions between the U.S. and Iran, already high over U.S. accusations that Iran is seeking to develop nuclear weapons and is fueling violence in Iraq. Iran denies both claims. But in recent weeks, the country has reversed itself on the cases against the four dual citizens. Tuesday’s announcement came as Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is in New York to attend the U.N. General Assembly.

Shakeri’s release comes less than a week after Iran released Kian Tajbakhash, an urban planning consultant with the New York-based Soros Foundation’s Open Society Institute, from Evin prison where he had been jailed for four months.

Yes, question the timing.

PJM is tracking Mahmoud in Manhattan, Day 2.

***

The NYPost blasts Mahmoud’s speech:

As for visiting Ground Zero, he again insisted he only wanted to “pay his respects.” Still, he provocatively questioned the general account of 9/11: “Why did this happen?” he asked. “What caused it? Who truly was involved?”

In his view, no doubt, Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda had nothing to do with it. Despite all this, most of Ahmadinejad’s non-responsive – or blatantly disingenuous – answers were met with silence from the audience. When it wasn’t applauding him, anyway.

No kidding: When, for example, the Iranian thug chided Columbia President Lee Bollinger for insulting him – after having invited him to speak – students and faculty cheered for Ahmadinejad. True, Bollinger had slapped his guest hard in introducing him: “You exhibit all the signs of a petty and cruel dictator,” said the Columbia prez. (Which, actually, understates the case.)

“I doubt that you will have the intellectual courage to answer these questions,” Bollinger said. “I do expect you to exhibit the fanatical mindset that characterizes what you say and do.”

On that, Ahmadinejad did not disappoint. Yet, only once did listeners erupt in a chorus of boos and hisses: when he insisted, in response to a question about repression of gays in Iran, that “we don’t have homosexuals, like in your country.” Yes, it was a bizarre day up in Morningside Heights. Ahmadinejad displayed yet again his “fanatical” mindset.

Is there anyone left, outside Columbia, who still thinks he’s got something worthwhile to say?

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  1. #134141
    On September 25th, 2007 at 9:43 am, Jaded said:

    I need not question the timing and I am sure the little man was well aware of exactly what Bollinger was going to say yesterday. I am sure had he not gotten his visa to come here and create more propaganda video’s for his homeland that the 2 American’s released in the past 7 days would still be in captivity.

    I am quite sure the US and Columbia think us “rubes” out here are stupid and can’t see the forest through the trees but they would be wrong.

  2. #134143
    On September 25th, 2007 at 9:48 am, Ombre Rose said:

    It is still absolutely staggering to me that anyone could actually do what Columbia University did and NOT FACE CHARGES OF TREASON.
    I love what Chris Muir’s cartoon strip said about it, yesterday.

    The Liberals do not have the LEGAL or MORAL AUTHORITY to twist and pervert and CHANGE the definitions of “Freedom of Speech”, and of Treason, laid out in our Constitution, and I am TIRED of Liberals and their ENABLERS who promote this STALINIST AGENDA of using our freedoms against us.

    Many have compared this to having Hitler here in 1939 – WHY 1939???
    THIS IS 6 years AFTER 9/11 – THAT compares to sometime AFTER PEARL HARBOR, not 2 years before it – JUST BECAUSE MANY WESTERNERS ARE AS OBSTINATE NOW as then they were in 1937, in denying REALITY.

    Our Founding Fathers made clear, all freedoms are not LICENSE TO COMMIT TRAVESTIES AGAINST AMERICA AND THE HOST COMMUNITIES – the all come with RESPONSIBILITIES and FIDUCIARY OBLIGAT IONS, and demand ACCOUNTABILITY of all participants.

    CLEARLY the lunatic Socialists at Columbia depended entirely upon the very Military of America that is BANNED FROM THEIR CAMPUS SINCE 1969, FOR THEIR OWN SECURITY IN BEING ABLE TO PULL THIS STUNT AND NOT DIE AT THE HANDS OF RADICAL ISLAMOFASCISTS for being so stupid!

    Little Green Footballs has a copy of the news release in IRAN of the speech, and of course, they focus on his STANDING OVATION from the Columbia students.

    And the Liberals are proud of themselves and still pronouncing this a VICTORY FOR “FREE SPEECH”.

    Proud of being STALINISTS in America!

  3. #134144
    On September 25th, 2007 at 9:55 am, JWS said:

    I have no interest in anything this SOB has to say. Our CIC just let a sworn enemy of America go on a field trip to spread his propaganda…

  4. #134146
    On September 25th, 2007 at 10:01 am, DanME said:

    I lived and worked in Iran for over 3 years back in the Mid-70’s just before the revolution. Our government and the media is building this country into a world power. Believe me, they don’t have the education, knowledge, work ethic, organizational ability, or determination to be a world power. Don’t misunderstand me. I agree that they have lots of oil money and are supporting terrorist organizations and trying to buy nuclear technology. Without outside technical help, they won’t be able to do anything.
    If we can rally the world’s major powers to isolate them, we have some hope of containing them. That has been the problem, France and Germany refused to help us. I think that is slowly starting to change with the new President of France. I also think the new prime minister of Germany understands the issues. At the moment, she has to put up with a coalition and is not free to act.
    From what I hear, this has a chance to improve after the next round of elections in Germany.

    Iran can’t even run their infrastructure
    such as power and telephony. When I was there you couldn’t even make a telephone call from one end Tehran to the other. Also, roving power outages were very common. Everything was totally disorganized and people had no idea how to manage or run anything.

    Many of the Iranian people that I met at the time were very friendly toward Americans. I think the same is probably true today.

    We just need to stop building this country and their President into something they are not and will never be able to achieve. We are giving them more power than they deserve.

  5. #134148
    On September 25th, 2007 at 10:04 am, gippergirl said:

    Who gave that minion of The Evil One a visa in the first place???
    All CU alumni and donors should be demanding a full refund of their money.
    CU can now work on establishing itself as the hot, new vocational school on the eastern seaboard while it thanks its lucky stars that the Marines weren’t sent in yesterday seeing as it funded and harbored terrorism.

  6. #134156
    On September 25th, 2007 at 10:16 am, ScottyDog said:

    Bollinger asked some tough questions yesterday in an attempt to keep his job. He knows people are outraged and like most slimy politicians was preaching to the choir to appear tough.

    When Ahmadinejad said they did not have homosexuals in Iran, I thought sure that is because you execute anyone that comes out of the closet.

    Ahmadinejad will use the tape from yesterdays appearance talking in Farsi to appear a hero to the middle east terrorists that he leads. According to the Embassy hostages, he can speak English.

    They will edit the tape just like Baghdad Bob did with Saddam.

  7. #134162
    On September 25th, 2007 at 10:25 am, Floyd R. Turbo said:

    Michelle et al, check out op-for.com second post down, “ahmmy does the big apple”. Further disgust. As he said, it’s like Hitler catching a performance of “Oklahoma” during the Battle of the Bulge. Gak. What have we come to?

  8. #134164
    On September 25th, 2007 at 10:27 am, DocattheAutopsy said:

    Yet, only once did listeners erupt in a chorus of boos and hisses: when he insisted, in response to a question about repression of gays in Iran, that “we don’t have homosexuals, like in your country.”

    Was he watching the same video I was? At first, they laughed and applauded. Then the laughed a little less. Then he restated it, and they finally realized he wasn’t joking, there was silence, except for one guy’s booing.

  9. #134167
    On September 25th, 2007 at 10:38 am, watershed said:

    Much as this guy represents a reprehensible viewpoint, we can’t go picking and choosing who the First Ammendment applies to. That is not what the US is about. By limiting the First Ammendment’s scope, we only succeed in starting down a path towards being a country like his.

  10. #134177
    On September 25th, 2007 at 10:59 am, trinitytim said:

    I was glad that Bollinger insulted the little terrorist but I still can’t believe that yesterday’s event actually happened.

    My father, and every other World War II veteran who has passed away must be turning over in their graves right. Those still alive have joined the rest of us military veterans in complete and total disbelief.

    This little terrorist is KILLING American soldiers every day and that single fact should have eliminated him from consideration as a speaker at CU or any other university in america.

  11. #134188
    On September 25th, 2007 at 11:14 am, swj719AWG said:

    adding that it seemed Ahmadinejad was the subject of “an ambush.”

    It ain’t an ambush if you announce it, and boy-howdy was this ever announced…

  12. #134192
    On September 25th, 2007 at 11:16 am, swj719AWG said:

    As an aside, last night’s opening monolouge from Craig Fergusen (sp) just cenemted my love for the guy. There’s an immigrant I’d love to see become a citizen!

    In case you missed it, part of it included a “photo from Immadinnerjacket’s speech at Columbia”, and had Ammie’s head on a hairy-chested male body, with lether srtaps on it… Craig said: “Welcome to America, and Photoshop…”

  13. #134221
    On September 25th, 2007 at 11:59 am, publiuswarmac9999 said:

    If we can rally the world’s major powers to isolate them, we have some hope of containing them. That has been the problem, France and Germany refused to help us

    Even when faced with a destructive war (WW-II), the major powers did not act to isolate or challenge Hitler. Do not underestimate the capability of your enemy. If he is of a mindset and can marshall the resources of his nation, Ahmadinejad can do horrific damage and utterly disrupt the world’s economy. (By the way, after WW-I, Germany was a complete basket case – so let’s not assume that Iran with its resources can’t put together a military capability via Hezbollah which will rival the Western World.)

  14. #134222
    On September 25th, 2007 at 12:01 pm, Jim M. said:

    I liked the Cuban group potty break.

  15. #134225
    On September 25th, 2007 at 12:07 pm, Jim M. said:

    Here’s the official Iranian News spin on I’m-a-ditty-job’s Press Club stint:

    President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad urged Western media Monday afternoon not to tell lies about Iran and come to see closely the existing situation in the country.

    Speaking to the Washington-based US National Press Club in a video-conference from New York, the Iranian president said, “Iranians are the freest and the most intellectual nation in the world and are well informed of the daily news.”
    “Those who claim there is no freedom in Iran should visit the country and freely talk to the people” so they could get a better understanding of the situation, said President Ahmadinejad who is here to address the United Nations General Assembly later on Tuesday.

    Referring to the heavy burden carried by the mass media in the contemporary world, the president said, “Giving false information about Iran is far beyond the responsibility of mass media.” As for women’s status in Iran, President Ahmadinejad said, “Iranian women are freest in the world and engaged in different scientific, social, media, political and artistic activities.

    “Women contribute to 60 percent of Iran’s university students and win medals at the international sports fields,” the president stressed.

    Commenting on the issue of Iraq, he said that US wrong policies in the war-ravaged country have led to failure of US army operations in Iraq.

    As for Israel, President Ahmadinejad reiterated that Iran “will not recognize the Zionist regime as it was established based on occupation, racism and threats.”
    “Why those who work in media do not protest to the Zionist regime for killing people and displacing them?” asked the president.

    He further said Iran was opposed to the way that US dealt with the world.

    “We are opposed to the way the US is managing the world considering it a wrong approach leading to war, discrimination and bloodshed,” President Ahmadinejad stressed.

  16. #134228
    On September 25th, 2007 at 12:13 pm, Jim M. said:

    And here is the beginning of the Iranian “Official” news report on his appearance at Columbia. Note two things – the press is calling it a “speech”, and Bollinger’s comments are not printed:

    President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad expounded on important international and regional issues in a speech given to academics at the prestigious University of Columbia in New York on Monday

    The following is the full text og President’s speech:
    In the name of God, the compassionate, the merciful…

    The president recites verses from the holy Koran in Arabic.

    “Oh, God, hasten the arrival of Imam al-Mahdi and grant him good health and victory and make us his followers and those to attest to his rightfulness.”
    Distinguished Dean, dear professors and students, ladies and gentlemen, at the outset I would like to extend my greetings to all of you. I am grateful to the almighty God for providing me with the opportunity to be in an academic environment, those seeking truth and striving for the promotion of science and knowledge.

    At the outset I want to complain a bit from the person who read this political statement against me. In Iran tradition requires that when we demand a person to invite to be a speaker we actually respect our students and the professors by allowing them to make their own judgment and we don’t think it’s necessary before this speech is even given to come in with a series of claims and to attempt in a so-called manner to provide vaccination of some sort to our students and our faculty.

    I think the text read by the dear gentleman here, more than addressing me, was an insult to information and the knowledge of the audience here. In a university environment we must allow people to speak their mind, to allow everyone to talk so that the truth is eventually revealed by all.

    Certainly he took more than all the time I was allocated to speak, and that’s fine with me. We’ll just leave that to add up with the claims of respect for freedom and the freedom of speech that’s given to us in this country.

    Many parts of his speech, there were many insults and claims that were incorrect, regretfully.

    Of course, I think that he was affected by the press, the media, and the political, sort of, mainstream line that you read here that goes against the very grain of the need for peace and stability in the world around us.

    Nonetheless, I should not begin by being affected by this unfriendly treatment. I will tell you what I have to say, and then the questions he can raise and I’ll be happy to provide answers. But as for one of the issues that he did raise, I most certainly would need to elaborate further so that we, for ourselves, can see how things fundamentally work.

    It was my decision in this valuable forum and meeting to speak with you about the importance of knowledge, of information, of education. Academics and religious scholars are shining torches who shed light in order to remove darkness. And the ambiguities around us in guiding humanity out of ignorance and perplexity.

  17. #134236
    On September 25th, 2007 at 12:32 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    I guess pies and spit are reserved for our conservative ladies?

  18. #134237
    On September 25th, 2007 at 12:32 pm, Jim M. said:

    For anyone interested, Mad Moo’s speech is printed in 10 parts in the official news service here:

    http://www2.irna.ir/en/news/line-22/key-99740/

    None of Bollinger’s “hard hitting” comments will see the light of day in Iran.

    If someone knows how to cache this material, please do so before it disappears.

  19. #134253
    On September 25th, 2007 at 1:12 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Columbia sends a leading Western atheist…

    Leave it to the WaPo to suggest only an atheist should debate Mahmoud..

    How about a young female Christian…

  20. #134255
    On September 25th, 2007 at 1:18 pm, Jim M. said:

    And how about “one who transmits microbes” (Mad-Moo speak for homosexuals).

  21. #134261
    On September 25th, 2007 at 1:31 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    On September 25th, 2007 at 1:12 pm, AlohaGuy said:
    How about a young female Christian…

    ’cause everyone knows you can’t have a Christian speak. That would be an automatic hate speach issue.

    I hope that helps.

  22. #134263
    On September 25th, 2007 at 1:36 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    Many in the crowd wore orange jumpsuits in solidarity with the Guantanamo detainees.

    SOLIDARITY?

    Put ‘um in Gitmo and then they can claim solidarity. Charge them with treason. Better yet, waterboard them just for fun!

    Where do these people(?) come from?

    Terrorist killing people – free them. USA liberates 50% of the population of Iraq (women) – arrest our President.

    WHAT? GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

  23. #134275
    On September 25th, 2007 at 2:08 pm, ajmontana said:

    Hate is eating away at their tiny little brains turning them into bear mush. Soon, they will be consumed by it and need code pink sippy cups and pink straight jackets.

  24. #134278
    On September 25th, 2007 at 2:18 pm, deepdiver said:

    Speaking to the Washington-based US National Press Club in a video-conference from New York, the Iranian president said, “Iranians are the freest and the most intellectual nation in the world and are well informed of the daily news.”
    “Those who claim there is no freedom in Iran should visit the country and freely talk to the people” so they could get a better understanding of the situation, said President Ahmadinejad who is here to address the United Nations General Assembly later on Tuesday.

    I’ll take him up on his invitation. I’ll quickly throw together a travel bag: let’s see, besides regular travel items: Can’t forget my bible. I’ll need something to read so I’ll grab my biography of Alexander the Great and I’ve been meaning to pick up a biography on Darius III. Probably take both for the long flights. Let’s see, given how free it is over there, I’ll pack my pistol and some extra mags. Any country that free is bound to let me keep and carry my pistol. And lastly, in case it gets does or doesn’t get lonely over there I’ll throw in a box of trojans, a Playboy and Debbie Does Dallas. That should take care of it. I’m sure that the freest nation in the world will not consider any of those items contraband and will be totally fine with it. I’m ready for my visit to the land of the free and the home of the honor killers.

  25. #134279
    On September 25th, 2007 at 2:18 pm, Alphonse said:

    … His speech, said White House spokesman Dana Perino, is about “upholding the promise of the U.N. founding.”

    Hmmmmm. Seems to me the UN Charter was designed to prevent such things as Bush’s invasion of Iraq. As signators, we are bound by the UN Charter (in theory) as the supreme law of our land:

    Article. VI.Clause 2: This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land;

    Might makes right, however. Teutonic thinking.

  26. #134307
    On September 25th, 2007 at 3:36 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    On September 25th, 2007 at 2:18 pm, Alphonse said:
    Seems to me the UN Charter was designed to prevent such things as Bush’s invasion of Iraq. As signators, we are bound by the UN Charter (in theory) as the supreme law of our land:

    See what happens when you drink too much Kool Ade?

    HEY, TROLL! The constitution is the supreme law of our land not the U.N. Charter! What are you like, 4 years old?

    You have a problem with “Bush’s invasion” (supported by our congress which means it is our invasion)? Google some junk about what the U.N. “invasions” have done abroad then shut your trap. What the U.N. has done in other countries should have you screaming (like the rest of us) for the U.N. to be thrown out of our great country.

    Grow up.

  27. #134328
    On September 25th, 2007 at 4:36 pm, xler8bmw said:

    #24 you need to go back to school!

  28. #134331
    On September 25th, 2007 at 4:39 pm, xler8bmw said:

    “What do we say?” shouted Code Pink’s Medea Benjamin. “Arrest the criminal!”

    That’s hysterical considering last night on O’Reilly Medea (AKA Suzie) said that MA of Iran wasn’t a terrorist because he is a head of state……..hhhmmmm but it’s ok to call Bush a criminal and terrorist that her and the other pinksters say he is……..

    All logic has ceased in their little minds if there was any to begin with…..

  29. #134343
    On September 25th, 2007 at 4:59 pm, Regulus said:

    Actually Alphonse has a minor point – ratified treaties are considered part of binding law per the Constitution.

    What he leaves out are the inconvenient details:

    - The fact that Saddam Hussein’s regime was already in serial violation of the terms ending the first (UN-approved) Gulf War;

    - That we already had one UN Security Council resolution that could be interpreted as authorizing military action in the event of Hussein’s non-compliance with its terms;

    - That the UN allows for military action in “self-defense;” and

    - That the US Senate authorized military action againt Iraq in 2003.

    Any of these could serve as legal bases for military action, if we want to play after-the-fact armchair lawyers. So although I don’t know what the supposedly clever “Teutonic thinking” remark has relevance to, it seems the thought processes of one who made it are simplistic if not deliberately disingenuous.

  30. #134348
    On September 25th, 2007 at 5:07 pm, bear1909 said:

    Okay. I’ll ask. Why was my post removed?

  31. #134349
    On September 25th, 2007 at 5:08 pm, bear1909 said:

    maybe it dint make it…i did experience a glitch at starchucks here in San Fran Sicko…let us hope.

  32. #134352
    On September 25th, 2007 at 5:13 pm, xler8bmw said:

    I know MM is checking today she told someone on another blog to turn off caps.

    Did you say something bad?

  33. #134356
    On September 25th, 2007 at 5:19 pm, Boomer said:

    Alphonse is dead on with the quote from the US Constitution. I have worked as a US National Escort for the INF and START operating out of Travis AFB meeting the former Soviet Union inspectors at San Francisco International Airport. We had to wear business suits (trying paying for that type of wardrobe on an NCOs pay) due to security worries from the tolerant folks in the Bay Area. Even the Government shut down during the Clinton administration did not stop operations therefore not violating the treaty. We had to front costs for the inspection from personal funds to include paying for the inspection team. Once the Senate ratifies a treaty we are stuck with it. Another reason to send the UN to the Hague. Hopefully the little Hitler wantabe gets escorted to the airport after his rant and we won’t have to deal with him until the UN grants another official visit.

  34. #134360
    On September 25th, 2007 at 5:30 pm, Marshall Russ said:

    I heard from a not so reliable source that Mackmood Akkkmadinajad was going to be the key note speaker at the Democratic National Convention. He lined up with the Liberal talking points already. Oh, and Barney Frank was going to introduce him.
    We can only dream!

  35. #134364
    On September 25th, 2007 at 5:36 pm, xler8bmw said:

    #32 he may be right on his copy and paste but, that law referring to State (Confederation) treaties and written way before we had a UN. And he forgot to add the last part of the clause “and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding”.

    Sadaam was in violation of the tray 17 times. Therefore Congress authorized military action for the violation making the UN treaty null and void.

  36. #134374
    On September 25th, 2007 at 6:01 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    On September 25th, 2007 at 5:36 pm, xler8bmw said:
    #32 he may be right on his copy and paste but, that law referring to State (Confederation) treaties and written way before we had a UN.

    Bingo!!!

    Having the ability to read something is not the same as the ability to interpret it properly.

    Point: GODisnowhere

    Is that GOD is now here or GOD is nowhere?

    Context is everything!!!

  37. #134379
    On September 25th, 2007 at 6:20 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    Congress passes a denunciation resolution…and takes steps to divest from terror.

    Who were the 16 that voted against it? I will bet 100:1 they were all dimocraps. Any takers?

    I’ll start the list with:

    Boxer, Kerry, Kennedy

  38. #134381
    On September 25th, 2007 at 6:24 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    Sorry – house vote. Even I make mistakes. Still, the 16 will turn out to be dims.

  39. #134386
    On September 25th, 2007 at 6:29 pm, Rick Moran said:

    After his requisite homage to the 12th imam, he decries the “enemies of humanity” who are threatening women.

    After his little escapade at Columbia yesterday, no one in this country is buying that nonsense.

    Overseas – a different story.

  40. #134396
    On September 25th, 2007 at 7:02 pm, xler8bmw said:

    #36 TY. That clause in it’s interpretation had to to with the building of our Nation and the states being added to the Nation. Nothing to do with Foreign treaties.

    And I meant #33 I was refering to in my original post.

  41. #134400
    On September 25th, 2007 at 7:17 pm, ajmontana said:

    “Faux News Alert Iran”
    This photo just in, not only are there Homosexuals in Iran but Amahdinejad is one!

    Ahmahomo Photo

  42. #134420
    On September 25th, 2007 at 8:18 pm, zorro said:

    Your websites have provided the BEST coverage of the events in New York City and our nation’s capital these past few days. Incredible clarity. Maximum impact in the fewest minutes. Just flat out great.

    MM.com and Hot Air, my first stop for news and opinion everyday, all day. Thanks.

  43. #134442
    On September 25th, 2007 at 9:25 pm, Rick Moran said:

    Good on our diplomats to walk out on the creep.

    Over the years, plenty of countries have done the same to us so it’s a good thing to turn the tables in this case.

  44. #134455
    On September 25th, 2007 at 10:07 pm, josetheguerilla said:

    MM,
    Your reporting on this was awesome!!!!! The video, the interviews, and the articles were all great stuff. Hotair kicks a$$!!!!!!!!!

    /s/

    josetheguerilla

  45. #134470
    On September 25th, 2007 at 10:46 pm, Ombre Rose said:

    On September 25th, 2007 at 10:38 am, watershed said:

    Much as this guy represents a reprehensible viewpoint, we can’t go picking and choosing who the First Ammendment applies to. That is not what the US is about. By limiting the First Ammendment’s scope, we only succeed in starting down a path towards being a country like his.

    THAT is STALINIST garbage – this isn’t even about Free Speech at all.

    NONE of our Founding fathers or any of our predecessors up through the Korean War would have stood for this TREASON.

    Our Constitution has a definition of Treason, and our laws have ALWAYS provided for FELONIES against SLANDER, SEDITION, INCITING RIOTS, CONSPIRACIES TO COMMIT FELONIES, FRAUD. CONFIDENCE GAMES, EMBEZZLEMENT, PORNOGRAPHY, BREACH OF THE COMMUNITY STANDARDS, and more, etc etc etc etc etc etc etc.

    IT IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL OPPRESSION for a small elitist MINORITY to declare THEIR OPINION of LEGAL TERMINOLOGY to be OPPOSITE their historic usage and expect it to become the prevailing definition of understanding WITH NO CHANGE OF THE CONSTITUTION, AGAINST THE GENERAL UNDERSTANDING OF THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS. – DICTATORSHIP. USURPATION of UNLAWFUL AUTHORITY which has NEVER been ceded to university boards.

    NOBODY made THEM the ARBITORS of these LEGAL TERMS.

    This is CLEARLY a case of AIDING AND ABETTING and there is NEVER a “DEMOCRATIC” EXCUSE for PANDERING TO AND ENCOURAGING AND ELEVATING and GLORIFYING a BRUTAL BLOODY DICTATOR – WHO FUNDS TERRORISM, AND TRAINS AND DEPLOYS TERRORISTS.

    THAT is like saying a Bank President has an obligation to provide a DRIVE THROUGH WINDOW for BANK ROBBERS.

    That is like saying a homeowner has no right to lock his doors against STREET GANGS.

    A Community FIRST OF ALL has a LEGITIMATE RIGHT to PROTECT ITSELF from deadly threat – that means they don’t have to pretend that “FRIENDLY OVERTURES” of DEADLY ENEMIES are something they have to be POLITE about!

    There is such a thing as PRIMARY FIDUCIARY OBLIGATIONS towards your own community.
    Bowing down and genuflecting to brutal dictators DOES CONSTITUTE A LEGITIMATE CONFLICT OF INTERESTS towards one’s COMMUNITY and it’s SURVIVAL, and therefore the DEFAULT ALWAYS goes to the HEALTH AND SAFETY OF THE COMMUNITY and NOT to the DINGBATS who want to play parlor games with your deadliest enemies.

    Those who put their parlor games with our enemies above their obligations to our nation are traitors.

    But when they assert a Constitutional right to do so WITHOUT THE CONCENSUS OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, they are first and foremost DICTATORS, themselves, personally. and only SECOND are Traitors.

    NOTHING gives them that right.

  46. #134474
    On September 25th, 2007 at 10:59 pm, Ombre Rose said:

    On September 25th, 2007 at 2:18 pm, Alphonse said:
    &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

    You couldn’t get 95% of Americans to agree that we SHOULD be signators of the UN, much less that it should be on USA soil! OR be the recipient of ANY USA TAX DOLLARS!!!

    THEREFORE you cannot make it the SOVEREIGN LAW of the USA.

    And since the Liberals have declared that no one is “GUILTY” of any crime unless they have been TRIED AND CONVICTED… you would have one hell of a time forcing Americans to take your guff about the UN authority.

    Remember, you can CLAIM you have a majority for your point of view, but you cannot back it up with ELECTIONS to prove it, and therefore your greatest fear should be RECIPROCITY.
    However, it looks as if Liberals are trying to bring Reciprocity to themselves post haste!!!

    Funny thing is, we all know they won’t like it.

  47. #134510
    On September 26th, 2007 at 1:43 am, USpace said:

    More great stuff, excellent videos…

    absurd thought -
    God of the Universe says
    admire terrorist monkeys

    ask them to speak at functions
    hang on their every word

    .
    absurd thought -
    God of the Universe claims
    there are no Gay Muslims

    no men attracted to men
    none dream of little boys

    .
    absurd thought -
    God of the Universe wants
    monkey clowns to rule

    preaching that what I want
    is to bring back the stone age
    .

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