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	<title>Comments on: Heather Mac Donald on the Jena 6</title>
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		<title>By: Michelle Malkin &#187; Media Myths About The Jena 6</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/09/25/heather-mac-donald-on-the-jena-6/comment-page-1/#comment-153782</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle Malkin &#187; Media Myths About The Jena 6</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: myfree</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/09/25/heather-mac-donald-on-the-jena-6/comment-page-1/#comment-137187</link>
		<dc:creator>myfree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 18:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was going to leave you all to your happy denial-fest on racism. But I couldn&#039;t do it.

You are the most insensitive people I have encountered. You want to look at effect without looking at cause.

You think that the onging campaign of making Black people out to be some kind of demons is fun?

Well it wasn&#039;t our ancestors who tried to write your ancestors out of history.

It wasn&#039;t our ancestors who were savages, there aren&#039;t sories on every continent in the world that say Blacks (Africans) went around the world raping and pillaging.

Then presenting people with a god that looks like someone else.

I think you all really need to do your work around your emotions tied to race.

An Heather needs to look at statistics from the 50&#039;s and 60&#039;s before we gave our children over to a system that cares not about their well being.

As a matter of fact if you have no compassion about the plight of our youth - then stop taking jobs dealing with them - oh I forgot exploitation is an acceptable industry with you people. And the bottom line is money.

There is plenty of evidence of grave cruelties on the part of your ancestors toward Blacks and every other race on the planet.

Heather states that she knows of no evidence of Blacks being treated unfairly in the criminal justice system.

Well I&#039;m not sure what rock she is living under but we can go back 100&#039;s of years with evidence.

The funny thing is if we don&#039;t address these issues by the time the population of the U. S. (you all are so arrogant you say Americans) gets to where you are minorities - your children could suffer greatly.

And I am not one to believe in vengeance but there are plenty of other Blacks and Hispanics who won&#039;t have a problem with that.

So if you believe in God (that&#039;s not the bible by the way) then you will work with current minorities to make sure we build a better paradigm for the future.

Rod</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was going to leave you all to your happy denial-fest on racism. But I couldn&#8217;t do it.</p>
<p>You are the most insensitive people I have encountered. You want to look at effect without looking at cause.</p>
<p>You think that the onging campaign of making Black people out to be some kind of demons is fun?</p>
<p>Well it wasn&#8217;t our ancestors who tried to write your ancestors out of history.</p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t our ancestors who were savages, there aren&#8217;t sories on every continent in the world that say Blacks (Africans) went around the world raping and pillaging.</p>
<p>Then presenting people with a god that looks like someone else.</p>
<p>I think you all really need to do your work around your emotions tied to race.</p>
<p>An Heather needs to look at statistics from the 50&#8242;s and 60&#8242;s before we gave our children over to a system that cares not about their well being.</p>
<p>As a matter of fact if you have no compassion about the plight of our youth &#8211; then stop taking jobs dealing with them &#8211; oh I forgot exploitation is an acceptable industry with you people. And the bottom line is money.</p>
<p>There is plenty of evidence of grave cruelties on the part of your ancestors toward Blacks and every other race on the planet.</p>
<p>Heather states that she knows of no evidence of Blacks being treated unfairly in the criminal justice system.</p>
<p>Well I&#8217;m not sure what rock she is living under but we can go back 100&#8242;s of years with evidence.</p>
<p>The funny thing is if we don&#8217;t address these issues by the time the population of the U. S. (you all are so arrogant you say Americans) gets to where you are minorities &#8211; your children could suffer greatly.</p>
<p>And I am not one to believe in vengeance but there are plenty of other Blacks and Hispanics who won&#8217;t have a problem with that.</p>
<p>So if you believe in God (that&#8217;s not the bible by the way) then you will work with current minorities to make sure we build a better paradigm for the future.</p>
<p>Rod</p>
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		<title>By: gayle</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/09/25/heather-mac-donald-on-the-jena-6/comment-page-1/#comment-134543</link>
		<dc:creator>gayle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 08:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I for one am proud of the Confederate flag.

So shoot me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I for one am proud of the Confederate flag.</p>
<p>So shoot me.</p>
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		<title>By: Rusty</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/09/25/heather-mac-donald-on-the-jena-6/comment-page-1/#comment-134490</link>
		<dc:creator>Rusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 04:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Purlepeep, I am not equating hanging nooses with assault (although, frankly, I think the nooses are worse since they are meant to invoke terror). I am, however, equating the six blacks on one white assault with the assault of a black student who tried attending a white party. The assailants there were charged only with misdemeanors.

That&#039;s a pretty easy comparison, no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Purlepeep, I am not equating hanging nooses with assault (although, frankly, I think the nooses are worse since they are meant to invoke terror). I am, however, equating the six blacks on one white assault with the assault of a black student who tried attending a white party. The assailants there were charged only with misdemeanors.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a pretty easy comparison, no?</p>
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		<title>By: marsouin</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/09/25/heather-mac-donald-on-the-jena-6/comment-page-1/#comment-134450</link>
		<dc:creator>marsouin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 01:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marxism is now the mainstream.</description>
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		<title>By: purplepeep</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/09/25/heather-mac-donald-on-the-jena-6/comment-page-1/#comment-134430</link>
		<dc:creator>purplepeep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 00:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;deepdiver said: 
I’m not loving the hijack. Rusty you have been proven wrong time and again in the Jena threads. You have also now reminded me of why I gave up trying to talk to liberals. It wasn’t until these threads that I realized the level of willful ignorance you maintain to sustain your world view&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, DD, if you&#039;ve tried to talk with the libs you likely know Rusty&#039;s problem. As with other liberals (with few exceptions) what&#039;s happening is the confusing of emotions with facts. Liberals very typically make the strange relativistic equation: &quot;how I feel = material fact&quot;.

This is very clearly displayed in this bizarre bit of relativism:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Rusty opined:
Blacks who assault people should get the same punishment as whites who assualt people. That didn’t happen in Jena and there’s the problem.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

To Rusty, some idiot kids putting a few nooses in a tree = a gang of thugs beating and kicking a human being unconscious.

&lt;blockquote&gt;From Michelle&#039;s post -

We are only belatedly learning that Mychal Bell, the sole member of the “Jena Six” to have been prosecuted for knocking out and kicking Justin Barker, has a previous arrest record that includes battery and property damage.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Actually, I noted that fact in the comments of the previous Jena entry. This thug is a 4 time loser - had he been put in prison for his previous crimes he wouldn&#039;t have been running free to assault more innocent people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>deepdiver said:<br />
I’m not loving the hijack. Rusty you have been proven wrong time and again in the Jena threads. You have also now reminded me of why I gave up trying to talk to liberals. It wasn’t until these threads that I realized the level of willful ignorance you maintain to sustain your world view</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, DD, if you&#8217;ve tried to talk with the libs you likely know Rusty&#8217;s problem. As with other liberals (with few exceptions) what&#8217;s happening is the confusing of emotions with facts. Liberals very typically make the strange relativistic equation: &#8220;how I feel = material fact&#8221;.</p>
<p>This is very clearly displayed in this bizarre bit of relativism:</p>
<blockquote><p>Rusty opined:<br />
Blacks who assault people should get the same punishment as whites who assualt people. That didn’t happen in Jena and there’s the problem.</p></blockquote>
<p>To Rusty, some idiot kids putting a few nooses in a tree = a gang of thugs beating and kicking a human being unconscious.</p>
<blockquote><p>From Michelle&#8217;s post -</p>
<p>We are only belatedly learning that Mychal Bell, the sole member of the “Jena Six” to have been prosecuted for knocking out and kicking Justin Barker, has a previous arrest record that includes battery and property damage.</p></blockquote>
<p>Actually, I noted that fact in the comments of the previous Jena entry. This thug is a 4 time loser &#8211; had he been put in prison for his previous crimes he wouldn&#8217;t have been running free to assault more innocent people.</p>
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		<title>By: Chief RZ</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/09/25/heather-mac-donald-on-the-jena-6/comment-page-1/#comment-134413</link>
		<dc:creator>Chief RZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rusty, you are attempting to guess or divine other people&#039;s intentions and even &quot;feelings&quot;.  There is plenty of overt racism by African-Americans in the USA without making up today&#039;s reality from past behaviors by a few people.  Only about 3% owned slaves back in the 1800s including quite a few negroes themselves and many from the New England states.
The confederate flag represents a type of rebellion from the paternity imposed by liberals in general and northerners in particular.  The Civil War was fought on the main for economic reasons; again imposed in the form of tarriffs.  The south wanted to trade directly with England and the north wanted a piece of the action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rusty, you are attempting to guess or divine other people&#8217;s intentions and even &#8220;feelings&#8221;.  There is plenty of overt racism by African-Americans in the USA without making up today&#8217;s reality from past behaviors by a few people.  Only about 3% owned slaves back in the 1800s including quite a few negroes themselves and many from the New England states.<br />
The confederate flag represents a type of rebellion from the paternity imposed by liberals in general and northerners in particular.  The Civil War was fought on the main for economic reasons; again imposed in the form of tarriffs.  The south wanted to trade directly with England and the north wanted a piece of the action.</p>
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		<title>By: gunslingerpatriot</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/09/25/heather-mac-donald-on-the-jena-6/comment-page-1/#comment-134398</link>
		<dc:creator>gunslingerpatriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been reading some of the links Jim M. has put out-definately something to ponder about folks.  

Libs-don&#039;t dismiss them because the links are being posted by a conservative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been reading some of the links Jim M. has put out-definately something to ponder about folks.  </p>
<p>Libs-don&#8217;t dismiss them because the links are being posted by a conservative.</p>
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		<title>By: AlohaGuy</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/09/25/heather-mac-donald-on-the-jena-6/comment-page-1/#comment-134380</link>
		<dc:creator>AlohaGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 22:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So then - if I&#039;m following this - it&#039;s OK to beat people up?

And the white kids with the nooses driving by the bus station were arrested for inciting a riot according to the report I saw.

So, um, kids arrested for beating someone up, kids arrested for inciting a riot with symbols of murder and oppression - isn&#039;t that the way this is supposed to work?  And then ultimately a jury decides?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So then &#8211; if I&#8217;m following this &#8211; it&#8217;s OK to beat people up?</p>
<p>And the white kids with the nooses driving by the bus station were arrested for inciting a riot according to the report I saw.</p>
<p>So, um, kids arrested for beating someone up, kids arrested for inciting a riot with symbols of murder and oppression &#8211; isn&#8217;t that the way this is supposed to work?  And then ultimately a jury decides?</p>
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		<title>By: davidcaskey</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/09/25/heather-mac-donald-on-the-jena-6/comment-page-1/#comment-134354</link>
		<dc:creator>davidcaskey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 21:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rusty,

I am not going to get into a long discourse as it would not help. Just to say you need to read, alot. And try not to read the liberal junk and the Lincoln religious books.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rusty,</p>
<p>I am not going to get into a long discourse as it would not help. Just to say you need to read, alot. And try not to read the liberal junk and the Lincoln religious books.</p>
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		<title>By: fulldroolcup</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/09/25/heather-mac-donald-on-the-jena-6/comment-page-1/#comment-134351</link>
		<dc:creator>fulldroolcup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 21:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rusty, it seems to have escaped your notice that you are comparing foreign countries (Cuba, Germany, Russia) to the CSA, which consisted of AMERICANS attempting to secede from the Union and prevented from doing so by a Civil War.  

Attempted secession didn&#039;t make them &quot;foreigners&quot; to the North any more than Shiite Iraqis fighting Sunni Iraqis are to &quot;foreigners&quot; each other.

In any case you are wrong about the Russians killing no Americans during the Cold War.  Remember KAL 007?  Remember the AF recon planes shot down in that same area of the North Pacific and Turkey?  Remember the Russian weapons, materiel, planes , etc. supplied to North VietNam and North Korea, when the Russkis made proxy war against us?

And of course, there are the hundreds of billions of dollars spent SO THAT the Russians could notattack and kill us by the millions.

Conceptually and factually, your point --whatever it was ----doesn&#039;t hold up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rusty, it seems to have escaped your notice that you are comparing foreign countries (Cuba, Germany, Russia) to the CSA, which consisted of AMERICANS attempting to secede from the Union and prevented from doing so by a Civil War.  </p>
<p>Attempted secession didn&#8217;t make them &#8220;foreigners&#8221; to the North any more than Shiite Iraqis fighting Sunni Iraqis are to &#8220;foreigners&#8221; each other.</p>
<p>In any case you are wrong about the Russians killing no Americans during the Cold War.  Remember KAL 007?  Remember the AF recon planes shot down in that same area of the North Pacific and Turkey?  Remember the Russian weapons, materiel, planes , etc. supplied to North VietNam and North Korea, when the Russkis made proxy war against us?</p>
<p>And of course, there are the hundreds of billions of dollars spent SO THAT the Russians could notattack and kill us by the millions.</p>
<p>Conceptually and factually, your point &#8211;whatever it was &#8212;-doesn&#8217;t hold up.</p>
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		<title>By: Rusty</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/09/25/heather-mac-donald-on-the-jena-6/comment-page-1/#comment-134338</link>
		<dc:creator>Rusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 20:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Feebie, this is what you get for agreeing with me on comment #17. I get the feeling that won&#039;t happen again any time soon :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Feebie, this is what you get for agreeing with me on comment #17. I get the feeling that won&#8217;t happen again any time soon <img src='http://s.michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-content/themes/mm/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Leatherneck</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/09/25/heather-mac-donald-on-the-jena-6/comment-page-1/#comment-134330</link>
		<dc:creator>Leatherneck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 20:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is the MAN holding Colin Powel down, or Condi? How about Justice Thomas, and Michel Vick? I am sick of reading that crap from so many folks.

Those nice young black, held down by the man boys, need the Rev. Big Al. 

&quot;You boys better learn to rap, or hoops, or something.&quot; Coach Carter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the MAN holding Colin Powel down, or Condi? How about Justice Thomas, and Michel Vick? I am sick of reading that crap from so many folks.</p>
<p>Those nice young black, held down by the man boys, need the Rev. Big Al. </p>
<p>&#8220;You boys better learn to rap, or hoops, or something.&#8221; Coach Carter.</p>
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		<title>By: feebiebabe</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/09/25/heather-mac-donald-on-the-jena-6/comment-page-1/#comment-134327</link>
		<dc:creator>feebiebabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 20:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rusty, go ahead and continue to hang your self with your stupidity rope – It appears you have provided your self with PLEANTY of slack on the last post. 

Go back to sleep and have a nice nap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rusty, go ahead and continue to hang your self with your stupidity rope – It appears you have provided your self with PLEANTY of slack on the last post. </p>
<p>Go back to sleep and have a nice nap.</p>
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		<title>By: Rusty</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/09/25/heather-mac-donald-on-the-jena-6/comment-page-1/#comment-134324</link>
		<dc:creator>Rusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 20:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok. Way off topic now but have to defend my comment.

US-Soviet war fatalities: 0

US-Cuban war fatalities: 115 (Cuban exiles in the Bay of Pigs, but I&#039;m feeling charitable)

US WWII fatalities in the European theatre: apx. 175,000. I admit my research is dodgy here. Help here would be appreciated.

American fatalities caused by Islamic terrorism: 3,000+ (WTC attacks 1 and 2, USS Cole, Beirut)

So, let&#039;s round up to 180,000.

US Civil War fatalities: apx. 618,000

Now, to be fair, many of those 618,000 could have been saved with contemporary medical technology. So, let&#039;s do this:

US Civil War KIA: apx. 203,000

It&#039;s still pretty close.

So, no, not retarded. Trolling a little, but only because I have to defend what I&#039;m saying.

The exact numbers are unimportant. What&#039;s important is that being annoyed at stupid college kids wearing Che shirts, stupid figure skaters wearing CCCP gear, and/or stupid racists brandishing swastikas while not being annoyed at the Confederate flag shows a stunning disconnect between what we find acceptable and the cold, hard facts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok. Way off topic now but have to defend my comment.</p>
<p>US-Soviet war fatalities: 0</p>
<p>US-Cuban war fatalities: 115 (Cuban exiles in the Bay of Pigs, but I&#8217;m feeling charitable)</p>
<p>US WWII fatalities in the European theatre: apx. 175,000. I admit my research is dodgy here. Help here would be appreciated.</p>
<p>American fatalities caused by Islamic terrorism: 3,000+ (WTC attacks 1 and 2, USS Cole, Beirut)</p>
<p>So, let&#8217;s round up to 180,000.</p>
<p>US Civil War fatalities: apx. 618,000</p>
<p>Now, to be fair, many of those 618,000 could have been saved with contemporary medical technology. So, let&#8217;s do this:</p>
<p>US Civil War KIA: apx. 203,000</p>
<p>It&#8217;s still pretty close.</p>
<p>So, no, not retarded. Trolling a little, but only because I have to defend what I&#8217;m saying.</p>
<p>The exact numbers are unimportant. What&#8217;s important is that being annoyed at stupid college kids wearing Che shirts, stupid figure skaters wearing CCCP gear, and/or stupid racists brandishing swastikas while not being annoyed at the Confederate flag shows a stunning disconnect between what we find acceptable and the cold, hard facts.</p>
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