Who are the bed-wetters?
A left-wing screed by one Rick Perlstein, accusing conservatives of creating a “bed-wetter” nation and decrying the uproar over Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s visit to Columbia, got a bit of buzz yesterday. McQ at Q&O takes apart Perlstein’s argument that America was more “mature” and “well-adjusted” when it welcomed Nikita Khrushchev in 1959, but has regressed because of the “conservative Republic of Fear.” Writes McQ:
…we were anything but well adjusted and mature. We were an emerging super-power. We were faced with a hostile emerging super-power. Both were armed with nuclear weapons. We were still somewhat under the “Uncle Joe” spell from WWII and saw the USSR as more misguided than evil.
Since then we have come to understand what evil is. We’ve seen it in action and some of us have actually learned from that experience. We no longer feel the need to play footsie with it. We no longer find it necessary, for whatever reason, to attempt to placate it, cater to it, make excuses for it, pretend it is something else, be civil to it, or give it a forum for its poisonous propaganda.
That’s real “maturity”.
That’s actually being “well-adjusted”.
Being an apologist for evil, however, is the same old game that saw its rise enabled in the late ’30s in Europe and its 70 year reign in the USSR. And, as history has shown us, that’s neither a mature or well-adjusted reaction to its presence.
Milblogger Grim at Blackfive adds:
Perlstein suggests that the respectful welcome granted to Krushchev pointed to a confident, mature American character; whereas the rude reception given Ahmadinajad at Columbia was the mark of immaturity. To be specific, he thinks the immaturity comes from the fact that American character has been damaged by years of “conservative rule,” which he says is “rewiring our hearts and minds” in bad ways.
Given that hypothesis, I would have liked to have seen some evidence that conservatives exercise some sort of rule at Columbia. It’s beside the point, however, since the analogy is even more deeply flawed than that: the reception of Kruschev was an act of the United States government, whereas the business at Columbia was an act of a private entity. The actual US government reception was to ignore the visit as much as possible, so much so that Bush played down the Iranian issue in his own speech at the United Nations.
It speaks to the bottomless self-delusion of the thumb-sucking Left that its nutroots bloggers see themselves as the adults and the brave, outspoken opponents of tyranny and evil as the “bed-wetters.” Diana West thoroughly diagnosed “The Death of the Grown-up.” America’s intellectual and moral adolescents are on the side of the jihad apologists, not on the side of the anti-jihad protesters who refused to shut up, make nice, or sip tea with the devil.
And from my column today:
Lost in the debate over the Columbia “debate” are the jumbo-sized jihadi dots connecting Iran to global Islamic terrorism, including 9/11. The 9/11 Commission Report stated in a section on Iran and the 1996 Khobar Towers bombing that “the evidence of Iranian involvement is strong.”
On Iran and al Qaeda partnerships, the report concluded, “there is strong evidence that Iran facilitated the transit of al Qaeda members into and out of Afghanistan before 9/11, and that some of these were future 9/11 hijackers. There also is circumstantial evidence that senior Hezbollah operatives were closely tracking the travel of some of these future muscle hijackers into Iran in November 2000.”
The report said of Iran training al Qaeda that “In late 1991 or 1992, discussions in Sudan between al Qaeda and Iranian operatives led to an informal agreement to cooperate in providing support — even if only training — for actions carried out primarily against Israel and the United States. Not long afterward, senior al Qaeda operatives and trainers traveled to Iran to receive training in explosives . . . The relationship between al Qaeda and Iran demonstrated that Sunni-Shia divisions did not necessarily pose an insurmountable barrier to cooperation in terrorist operations.”
You won’t be surprised, then, to learn that the weekend before Mahmoud arrived at Columbia, foreign ministers of Iran and Saudi Arabia met to “stress the need for unity among world Muslims, and called for vigilance in the face of plots hatched by enemies to sow discord among the Shiite and Sunnite Muslims.” No, it didn’t come up in the “debate.”
On my train ride home from Mahmoudapalooza, I spoke briefly with a Columbia University grad steeped in the Ivy League haze of non-judgment. She was upset and embarrassed — not by Columbia president Lee Bollinger’s bone-headed decision to legitimize Ahmadinejad at its World Leaders Forum. No, she was mortified that Bollinger had delivered his face-saving introduction challenging Ahmadinejad.
With childlike naivete, this Columbia alum told me: “I’m frightened by the polarity.” Which about sums up the majority view of academia and the Ahmadinejad excusers on the left:
They are more afraid of standing up and calling out evil than losing the West, their country and their own lives to it.
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The moonbat babies are leading a backlash against Columbia’s president Lee Bollinger.
They fear the polarity.
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Excellent. And Mahmoud was one of the thugs who held U.S. diplomats (immunity anyone?) captive until Reagan was elected. They let the captives go when they saw an adult in the White House.
Repeating the comment from Rich Lowry yesterday:
Therein lies the problem with liberals - they view practically every problem in the world as one that can be solved through diplomacy and dialogue.
When the rumbles began about Iran’s Nuclear ambitions, they all cried out for diplomacy and dialogue, slapping down any discussions of military intervention.
From Ahmedinejhad’s UN speech, he clearly stated that Iran will continue its nuclear programs without regard to what the US, UN or anyone else says.
How can anyone be diplomatic with that kind of mentality?
I think the reason so many of us applauded Bollinger’s remarks ( whatever the reason behind them ) is that we, as civilians, are fed up with all this diplomatic “Nice-speak” that goes on in public when leaders are face-to-face.
Bollinger said what many of us would like to see GWB and our other ‘leaders’ say - calling out Ahmadinejhad for what he really is, regardless of how ‘rude’ it may seem. We live in the real world, and in the real world, honest people tell things the way they are - we don’t sugarcoat it.
In the name of Free Speech, they invited a Terrorist Dictator to speak at Columbia University. They fired Americans, attempting schtick who broke no FCC rules in New York City….let me get this straight Iranian goon good to spread his message. American Citizens get fired for attempting edgy humor..actually that was written into their contracts -this is how come CBS had to pay them.
I wish Imus was back on the Air, I noticed Media Matters, doesn’t have a problem with Columbia University or The President of Iran delivering his message….but they do have a problem with Bill O’Reilly and Juan Williams discussing Race in America, imagine of all things. Bill O’Reilly, refuses the Imus treatment. Has anyone tried to interview Don Imus since his settlement with CBS?
Meanwhile back at the Ranch, the Imus’ are taking care of children with cancer and blood disorders. They have had before children at the ranch, from as far away as Afghanistan.
http://www.supportimus.org/2007/09/the_imus_ranch_on_rfdtv.html
Soap is a charter member of the “conservative Republic of Fear.” I am also a charter member of the “RCR - Radical Christian Right”. Soap is a charter member of anything a liberal would think is bad. I get around! LOL
Seriously, Michelle has a way of cutting to the chase which I dearly love!
I’m frightened by the polarity!!!!!!
sarcasm off.
cute baby!!!!!!!
The dirtbags propaganda tour is almost finished and I get great satisfaction knowing the Human piece of garbage will someday be rotting in hell. The sooner the better.
Laree - O’Reilly had Juan Williams from NPR on his show discussing that piece he did and the reaction from CNN and ABC.
Juan, who is hardly a conservative and was on the Radio Factor for much of that piece, agreed that they took his comments totally out of context and were skewing it to make him seem like a racist goon.
They also discussed how the original hit piece came from Media Matters - and that it appeared that CNN’s and ABC’s stories were generated from the Media Matters views.
Hardly quality journalism - but what else do we expect from the MSM?
“Bed-wetter nation,” eh? Whenever I see libs clumsily attempting to use logic in place of their more comfortable emotionalisms, I’m always reminded of a saying I read once:
“We see in others what we carry in our own hearts.”
It wasn’t conservative bed-wetters who stormed the stage at Columbia and prevented one of the founders of the Minutemen from speaking, or who walked out on Michelle when she was speaking at another university because they were too cowardly and weak-minded to entertain an opinion other than their own.
It’s not conservative bed-wetters who constantly cry about how this country is becoming like Germany in the 1930s, or who indulge in whack-job conspiracy theories about how 9/11 was an “inside job,” or who still whine about the 2000 election to this day.
It’s not conservative bed-wetters who look at battle casualties after more than four years of fighting in Iraq - the sum of which amounts to little more than a day’s work at Pearl Harbor, Kasserine Pass or Omaha Beach, and were dwarfed in just a few hours’ time at Antietam, Fredricksburg, Shiloh and Gettysburg - and want to surrender to the enemy.
And it’s not conservative bed-wetters who can look right into the face of evil and in their cowardice claim that it either doesn’t exist or is simply the misunderstood victim or our own society.
Reading someone like Perlstein trying to make a rational argument is little different from watching a monkey trying to make sense of a wristwatch. He should just stick to emotionalisms, it’s what people like him are best at.
Imagine a Liberal calling Conservatives bed-wetters. Even more wierd, a guy named Perlstein taking the side of the world’s biggest anti-semite.
Is this idiot suggesting that the school’s President is a Conservative? It sounded to me like Little Hitler got the biggest arse whipping from him.
This is just a guess, but I’m going to go out on a limb and suggest that Kruschev might not have received that warm and fuzzy welcome if 19 Russians had flown airplanes into buildings and killed 3,000 of our people.
Finally, what Conservative rule is he talking about? This country’s been under Liberal rule for the past 50 years.
So, let me get this straight. The people who:
Protest while carrying images of our President’s severed head
Fast (but not really - ask Cindy Sheehan)
Hysterically interrupt pubic hearings.
Vandalize military recruiting offices.
Harrass military recruiters through false representation.
Encourage and embrace liars and law-breakers.
Find jihadist dictators sexy and attractive.
Travel to communist countries to embrace totalitarian dictators.
Rehash failed social and economic policies (socialism/communism) and hysterically insist they’ll work this time.
Are the grown-ups? Really?
You all probably remember that study about how liberals’ and conservatives’ brains have different wiring? How liberal brains are more open to change and conservatives are more rigid in their positions?
Yeah - the only reason that’s so is because liberals are the ones who get childish and hysterical. Only kids act in the way I’ve described above.
Adults live in, and deal with, reality.
If Columbia didn’t have a reputation for liberal bias and a speaker was given a lectern to actually could give opposition and debate (someone say like ex Ambassador Bolton) Lee Bolinger’s name wouldn’t be drug through the mud, Ahmadinejad would have more mud on him and the bias accusation wouldn’t stick.
The self inflicted wound caused by a lack of real parity on Columbia’s part also gives all the ammunition any critic needs.
They’re quite deserving of the double hammenframuss they worked so hard to achieve.
Most people try to avoid throwing a cream pie in their own face.
At the sametime we are being given the “Excuse” FREE SPEECH, for the President of Iran, speaking at Columbia Univeristy. We are told it is better to listen to him and leave dialogue open. An Illinois Dem politician, has a subcommittee going on right now about cleaning up our Airwaves of degrading sterotypes. Is this a case of wanting your cake and eating it too?
We have the FCC to regulate the American Airwaves, we do not need the Morals Police or the Speech Police telling us what is allowable on the American Airwaves…for one, who gets to decide what is allowable? This is why we have Free Speech and Freedom of Expression. Is this a backdoor Introduction to the Fairness Doctrine?
Let’s see Media Matters is trying to smear another on air personality, who established Media Matters- Hillary Clinton took credit, who is running for President. Six months later and they are still running the same game plan on the American Public.
We have to, listen to the twisted point of view of a declared Enemy of our Country, remember the Death to America chants as he was getting on the plane to come to New York? For some reason this “Iranian Fellow” has the right to our Free Speech, we have to let him have his say..come again? The Left has gone over the edge, they have officially slipped off, the side of the Map.
http://www.theseminal.com/2007/09/25/from-imus-to-industry-the-business-of-stereotypes-and-degrading-images/
Juan Cole is one of my pet peeves in today’s Lefty media. Check out how he role models “maturity”:
here is the link, sorry!
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=67&ItemID=13872
On September 26th, 2007 at 2:53 pm, englishqueen01 said:
*claps
Ya know I luv ya EQ!!!
Liberalism is a mental disorder.
-M. Savage
I really don’t think the US military gives one horned hoot owl’s left dinkee
if the American left is enamored with the Iranian President or not.
When Bush torches Iran, his approval ratings around the world and in the US will go through the ceiling.
The Juan Cole’s and the Medea Benjamin’s are about to become irrelevant.
All the finger pointing at conservatives for ‘bedwetting’ etc is simply another example of lefty projection…accuse your political opponents of what you yourself are doing to distract attention from that fact…as for the girl who was ‘afraid of the polarity’, well she sounds like an Honors Graduate of the Rodney King Can’t We All Just Get Along School For Political Infants
In lib kindergarten do they teach them their A’PC’s? It must really screw em up when they have to recite them.
APCs? Hell, they had to stop reciting the Pledge of Allegiance because it caused their waters to run. Lightweights.
Well, the liberals had the opportunity to test how well their mature, adult, “diplomacy and dialogue” strategy worked when Clinton and Maddy Albright danced around with the North Koreans. We don’t have to spar rhetorically about that case; it was an actual empirical test. And it failed. Miserably. The North Koreans suckered us and gained all sorts of aid and concessions while lying through their teeth the entire time. And now, they not only have nukes, they’ve become a virtual neighborhood nuke pimp for Syria and every other tinhorn dictator who wants one.
Why would the Iranians be any different? Mature and adult, indeed.
That is a bit redundant don’t you think? Our schools have become a place where there is no free speech if your belief “system” includes a creator.
Lockers are being removed because of bomb threats.
Metal detectors are installed at all entrances.
Police roam the halls – scared.
Teachers are targets of all kinds of vile abuses and are powerless to protect themselves.
Theft is at an all time high – just lay your camera down before you try to argue that point – I dare you.
Aspirin is bad to give to a child with a headache but the abortion bus can come to school and take your daughter to an abortion clinic without your knowledge.
GOD has been replaced with Harry Potter and satan.
Evolution is pushed as fact when there is zero evidence – ZERO.
All of this garbage is forced down our unsuspecting children from the some of the very first books: “Millions of years ago, dinosaurs…”
And to think, we used to get in trouble for chewing gum.
But hey, rah rah for liberalism which has done so much good for our schools.
Yours truly,
Soap (former bed-wetter and now cry-baby).
Conservatives as bed wetters?!?! This liberal pencil neck is trying to steal macho from the conservatives…he really thinks this will fly…?…keep looking in the trendy coffee shops..you’ll see it full of liberal elite…sipping their $5.00 Lattes and expounding on the dishonesty of Bush…you know, I really don’t think we need to worry about them taking over the masculine traits…they’d never want to get their hands dirty, or actually use their brain for reasoning…we are safe..
Does the irony of grown adults engaging in name-calling as proof of their maturity completely escape everyone here? Just curious.
This is pure co-dependent tripe. “I have to be a certain way because you are being a certain way.”
It is like saying that we are all docile clay waiting to be imprinted by some molding force, left in the
likeness of some uncontrollable force.
I hear liberal moon loon leftists speaking like this all the time around my town. Oh, the poor suffering
American elites. The evil President is just enacting so many laws and policies that are changing their
psyches forever.
They aren’t even free to intellectually masturbate with a psychopathic terrorist who isn’t even Iranian.
And their sensibilities are just crushed by the rudeness of a quisling University president who called
the psychopathic terrorist what he is- a petty dictator. Oh! The horrors!
But what irks me to no-end about this “writer” Perlstein is how he tries to make a comparison of the
visit by Nikita Kruschev- a visit sanctioned by the US government, an official state visit- with the PR
stunt of the President of Iran, a man who participated in an overt act of war in the seizure of our embassy in Tehran.
If this Perlstein had tried to make the comparison in front of my high school history teacher he would have been rebuked for his inaccuracy. It is apples and oranges. For starters, the official visit by a head
of state is never categorized or classified as a “free speech issue”. The comparison deteriorates from there.
I think Perlstein is supremely frustrated at not living under such a loving, God evoking tyrant elitist like the President of Iran and his mullahs. If one is on the inner circle, one acts with impunity. There
is no opposition. The one view fits all. And you get to couch it in cozy terms of peace and justice.
Perlstein symbolizes to me a new breed of lemming that doesn’t quite grasp the fact that Ahmedinejad was not just talking about there being no gays in Iran. He was telling all of his entertainers in the peanut gallery what time it is in Iran. And that nothing is going to change. If there are no gays- the intelligent might begin to question- who else are there none of in Iran? And how is this so? How is it carried out?
Perlstein is afraid and frustrated- a walking contradiction of wanting freedom but needing total control
of his adversaries. He has run out of political analysis and is now demeaning his rivals with pathetic
provocations about our adulthoods.
The Left is in full decay and free fall. The very fact that there mouths are moving are proof they do not
live under a repressive social regime that is changing them for the worst. They are freely acting in a society that offers them their beloved “choices”.
Perlstein has made his. To the dustbin with him soon enough. Prepare to launch.
You aren’t curious at all.
Make America stronger. Send a liberal friend a package of Depends!
I’ll take that as a yes.
Is an expression I gave up in elementary
school, but it seems to be the only thing
the left can say when they don’t or can’t
get there way!!
So who are the bedwetters