Fake war hero Tom Harkin smears Rush Limbaugh; Update: Harkin earns his Absolute Moral Authority card; Update: Rush on Harkin: “I feel like apologizing to his family” for his behavior; Update: VoteVets.org moonbats launch attack ad; Update: Yep, the same VoteVets.org that used a vet who made phony injury claims
Update 2:40pm Eastern. Remember Josh Lansdale? The left doesn’t want you to…
Full background here.
Update 12:30pm Eastern 10/2. Crikey. The moonbats launch an anti-Rush attack ad campaign.
Update 12:06pm Eastern 10/2. Rush comments on Harkin, top of his radio show: “I feel like apologizing to his family” for his behavior on the Senate floor. “Demeaning.” “So beneath the decorum” in the Senate…”They are trying to distract from their dismal approval ratings and failures.”
Update 11:15am Eastern 10/2. Bryan Preston, the man responsible for our Hot Air Absolute Moral Authority Card collection, adds a new one to the deck:
More: CNSNews.com interviews Senators about the story.
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Update 8:30am Eastern : USAToday’s OnPolitics blog tracks the latest thrusts and parries: “There’s much more likely to be said about all this, we trust.”
Update: The Rush-hating left is almost beyond parody, but Scott Ott, as always, pulls it off: ‘Phony Vets for Truth’ Join Reid Attack on Rush Limbaugh.
Update: Glenn Reynolds wonders: “I noted back in 2004, the last time Harkin made this an issue, that the press was giving him a pass. Will it do so again? And why are the Democrats letting Harkin, of all people, get out front on this issue?”
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Is there any doubt that Tom Harkin is a MoveOn.org Democrat?
Harkin attacking Rush Limbaugh on the Senate floor:
Well, I don’t know. Maybe he was just high on his drugs again. I don’t know whether he was or not. If so, he ought to let us know. But that shouldn’t be an excuse.
Why is Harkin counter-attacking so viciously?
Maybe this has something to do with it:
Instapundit flashback: TOM HARKIN, FAKE WAR HERO.
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Question: is he a friend of Larry Creig?
You would think that he’d be aware of his own problematic history before speaking out on a subject like this. Tis, Tis.
Stolen, would suggest he had it to begin with…Harkin that is.
Someone is on drugs alright. Me thinks it is Harkin who finally admitted he had served as a ferry…. pilot(?)
Via the Swamp
Limbaugh did offer an apology today, but not for himself — rather for Media Matters, an organization that circulated his remarks about “phony soldiers” last week.
“I want to apologize to all of the members of the United States Military, both in uniform and out, active duty and retired, for Media Matters for America,” Limbaugh said today. “They will not apologize to you, and they will not apologize to me. I want to apologize to you on behalf of them. As all of you military personnel know, I, since (the) beginning of time and since the beginning of this program, certainly 19 years ago, have been one of the most ardent, loyal, in-awe supporters of any and all who wear the uniform — including those who disagree with the mission.”
Harkin is a scumbag as are his cohorts in Vietnam lies…
Al Gore
John Kerry
Jim McDermott
Max Cleland
and those fair weather freaks at Moveon dot treason.
I served at Atsugi BTW.
I knew that what I learned in school would have a real world application! I just learned in logic class today that Tom Harkin’s argument against Rush (as quoted here) uses the logical fallacy of ad hominem (of the “abusive” subcategory).
Yay for school!
Do these public officials have nothing better to do than to assassinate a man’s character on the Senate floor, all over a totally contrived incident?
It’s getting ugly.
What is the deal with the Democrats and:
1) The Vietnam War. Is all this focus on Vietnam bringing back some 1960’s memories for them or something? I don’t know about everyone else, but we’ve got a war in Iraq and Afghanistan going on.
2) Lying about our troops—or about BEING a troop. I have yet to see one Republican make deceptive media about our soldiers or some comment like “go insurgents go kill US troops.”
3) Trying to limit conservative free speech. Why is the House wasting our tax $$ time on Rush Limbaugh? Has he become so incredibly powerful that he’s shaking the foundations of the self-toted new and improved democrat-led House?
Harkin is a donkey’s …..
I guess that explains the mascot.
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Via Powerline
I think that’s right. Media Matters knows that anyone who looks into its charges will know that they are bogus. But that’s almost beside the point. Their objective (i.e., the Clintons’ objective) is to arm fellow-liberal mainstream media outlets with excuses to ignore Limbaugh (”He insulted the troops!”) and O’Reilly (”He’s a racist!”) as the election approaches. It’s all about putting Bill Clinton back in the White House.
What? Another fatuous demicritter stepping in their own doo-doo? Me thinks Mr. Harkin is due a nasty-fax.
They are only making complete jackasses of themselves. Hmm now I know why their mascot is a donkey.
I’d have to agree with CommentGuy’s assessment: the attacks on Limbaugh, O’Reilly, et al are just gearing up to call them “discredited” during next year. Or a call for “fairness” doctrine.
I can’t believe Harkin’s a stolen valor type. That’s just priceless.
Tom Harkin pseudonym for Jesse MacBeth …
Via Glenn Reynolds
IT’S NOT A “SMEAR” — it’s better understood as “battlespace preparation.” And the target is the traditional media; the intent is to limit the ability of people like Limbaugh or O’Reilly to drive stories in the mainstream news as we get closer to the election. Expect more of this, with more targets.
It simply is amazing how two-faced the DhimmiRATS are; Harkin is yet another one of the 25 that couldn’t bring themselves to condemn MoveOn.org.
My problem here is that Harkin is my Senator. I am so ashamed. He needs to retire before he says too much.
Michelle,
Please post how to contact Harkin.
The libs will do anything to marginalize Rush. That pesky 1st Amendment keeps getting in their way. Their acting like Rush is a member of congress. Libs don’t listen to Rush anyway. Do they really think that Conservatives are going to turn on Rush because of this lame attempt to smear him? They’re probably thinking that this type of BS will enable them to re-introduce the Fairness Doctrine. Of course, they don’t think that Murtha and Kerry calling our military murderers are going to hurt their chances.
“Liberalism is a Mental Disorder”
Michael Savage
Combine this with Sen. Reid calling Rush “unpatriotic” and you can see how disparate the Democrats are. However, the smears against Rush have to be countered before they get set in stone in the public’s collective conscience.
The real test in all this would be to poll the troops. Do they believe they are supported by Reid, Pelosi, Moveon, Murtha? Or, do they believe Limbaugh is more supportive? I bet Limbaugh wins that one 90-10.
It’s interesting. The Dems had their Internet debate and fawned all over themselves about the new media, but the real power is the power of the new media to fight back against the MSM. As has been noted here, if the Internet had been around in the 70’s Kerry would never have been a Senator. Limbaugh, O’Reilly and bloggers on the Internet can push back with clout not yet appreciated by those who fabricate stories.
Teddy Roosevelt said this on May 12, 1900 .. .while he was still governor of New York. Too bad we don’t have more people who feel this way today.
“We can afford to differ on the currency, the tariff, and foreign policy; but we cannot afford to differ on the question of honesty if we expect our republic permanently to endure …” “Honesty is not so much a credit as an absolute prerequisite to efficient service to the public. Unless a man is honest, we have no right to keep him in public life; it matters not how brilliant his capacity.” “The weakling and the coward cannot be saved by honesty alone; but without honesty, the brave and able man is merely a civic wild beast who should be hunted down by every lover of righteousness.” “No man who is corrupt, no man who condones corruption in others, can possibly do his duty by the community….” “‘Liar’ is just as ugly a word as ‘thief,’ because it implies the presence of just as ugly a sin in one case as in the other. If a man lies under oath or procures the lie of another under oath, if he perjures himself or suborns perjury, he is guilty under the statute law.” “Under the higher law, under the great law of morality and righteousness, he is precisely as guilty if, instead of lying in a court, he lies in a newspaper or on the stump; and in all probability, the evil effects of his conduct are infinitely more widespread and more pernicious.”
It would be nice if some fake war hero would read this…but he probably never will.
From transcript on Rush’s website
They’re a Hillary Clinton front group. They will continue to be used as an accredited source by the Drive-By Media, despite the fact that they have now been demonstrated to make things up, take things out of context, and embarrass those who report what they say. They will continue to be a source, because this is the ‘08 playbook that we saw break down last week, and the Democrats may still introduce their resolution in the House castigating me. I don’t know. The House doesn’t go into session ’til two o’clock. We’ll have to wait and see. I don’t know if they will do that or not. If they do it, it is just an effort to try to portray themselves as pro-military because they know they have to because they know the impression they have accurately created is that they’re not pro-military, from Jack Murtha to Harry Reid claiming defeat, to John Kerry’s lifetime of criticism of the soldiers. So they’re going to try to deflect the criticism away from their pet organization, MoveOn.org, whose “Betray Us” ad backfired totally on them. It was a Wellstone moment for them, as this will be. But since you will never get an apology from Jack Murtha for mischaracterizing you as murderers, since you’ll never get an apology from John Kerry, since you won’t get an apology from Media Matters for America or anybody that works there, to all of you in the US Military, I want to apologize to you for them for the, again, firestorm over something that did not happen regarding your valor and your commitment to freedom and democracy last week on this program. I really regret that it happened, and I apologize to you on their behalf since they won’t.
I flew F-5’s and F-1000’s on bombing raids in nam – yeah that’s it. I flew B-77 bombers that droped the big ones on Japan – yeah that’s it. I invented the stealth bomber, me and Gore – yeah that’s it.
*wondering if anybody will check
And the Crapweasel award of the day goes to….
I second ctmom. Please tell us how to contact his office.
Sentors Harkin and Reid have no honor. To take the comment out of context from Rush is absurd. The phonies Rush was pointing to are the Jesse Mcbeths and the winter soldiers syndrome that these Sentors and congressmen and woman tend to believe before they believe our brave troops. I despise these democrats. They truly hate this country and what it stands for IMHO. They (the Democrats) cry with crocodile tears for our troops and country. . I have to ssign off now befroe I say something I will regret. Semper Fi to all our brave Men and Women in our armed forces. My God keep you all safe in the palm of his hand.
Ugh. Harkin is an alum of my fraternity. Guess they hazed him so hard back in tha day that it knocked something loose, and it only got worse w/ age. Who the @#$% votes for this doofus anyway?
The stupidest thing about Harkin is that he had no reason to lie about his service. But that precisely the reason I so distrust politicians on a visceral level. Far too many are far too willing to say anything to get people to pay attention to them. If he’ll lie about his service he’ll lie about anything.
I’ve lived in Iowa for about 12 years and can say that I have never voted for this guy. This kind of crap is pretty disgusting. If it weren’t coming from the MoveOn crowd, one might wonder how low these guys could possibly go.
As a “dittohead”, I heard what Rush said, and these fools are doing nothing if not trying to deflect from themselves their own anti-military comments. There is no one more supportive of the troops than Rush Limbaugh! His 24/7 membership drive for the troops is something my hubby and I were proud to take part in.
I’m in awe of how stupid they think the American people are, especially when they try to convince us they are so virtuous. We’ve heard what they’ve said, and it has not gone unnoticed! Scumbags!
Rush took their abuse much better than I did, today! grrrrrrrrrrr
Here is Rush transcript from today with his rebuttal to Reid and Harkin
This is beyond out-of-context. I was listening that day and he wasn’t calling any soldiers “phony”. He was literally talking about “phony soldiers”, and more specifically, this Jesse Macbeth character. This is a strategically edited soundbite. There must be leftist operatives listening around the clock for that one soundbite that will bring him down. He simply did not say what Reid and Co. are claiming.
I didn’t particularly like the sense of the Senate resolution condemning moveon.org because it was bound to end up with some type of silly tit for tat. Our founders realized that uncomfortable, even hateful, speech needed to be protected so that the average American citizen could judge it for himself. The internet and FoxNews is taking on moveon.org quite nicely and what is really needed is the repeal of the hate speech laws which are now being used arbitrarily to attack anyone who espouses a politically uncorrect position or to protect someone who espouses an unpopular politically correct position. What is also needed is some common sense law that labels pornography as something other than speech.
The dems are trying their successful Vietnam tactic that led to a denial of the Gulf of Tonkin resolution and subsequent abandoning of our allies in Vietnam. I was there…at 3,000 feet and twenty miles away in a Navy E1B aircraft equipped with a powerful radar. I directed strike aircraft to protect our ships as I saw raw video on the radar scope of at least 12 small boats darting in and around the USS Maddox. I also established relay communications with the USS Ticonderoga and heard the combat information officer aboard the USS Maddox report multiple torpedoes running under the ship. The only reason they did not sink her was the fact that the Maddox was at the end of her time on station in the Gulf of Tonkin and was low on fuel so was running high in the water. The torpedoes were set to run at a depth too low to hit her.
I have a letter of commendation for my actions that night from Admiral Roy L. Johnson to prove the above. You’ll find it in Navy records as Ser: 002-1406 dated 12 October 1964.
I subsequently served two tours in Vietnam and was awarded a chest full of medals. Two of those medals were from President Johnson who, as you might recall, caved in to public polls and MSM pressure and gave up. Another example of a Democratic politician praising heroism without showing any.
As Yogi said, it’s deja vu all over again.
Do you think that the protesting members of Congress could even pass an English proficiency test? Do they not comprehend the language the most of us speak? I heard the original show and some of the replays and there is little doubt in my mind what was said and implied. Harry Reid and company are embarassing the United States Senate. The “World’s Most Exclusive Club” is led by a maladroit moron. Nice to know that they have solved all other problems in the world so they can focus on the Limbaugh crisis.
Harkin – a lying bag of dirt. Why do people keep on electing these losers.
Amazing how one man scares the Defeatocrats so much.
And, before it comes up, MoveOn is a registered political organization, vs. a simple private citizen like Rush.
publiuswarmac9999
I agree…Hate speech laws are first cousin to McCain-Feingold. It’s the Liberals attempt to amend the Constitution without the ratification of the people. It’s OK for Congressman and Senators to call our troops murderers, but it’s not OK to hang a rope from a tree. I don’t like that, of course, but we’re either going to have free speech or we’re not. We can’t selectively decide when we’re going to honor it. Hate speech laws are amongst the worse and the ACLU remains silent. Of course, based upon their agenda, they selectively champion a cause to suit their agenda.
The irony of a phony soldier criticizing Rush is beyond priceless…
I assume Rush will be suing the man for defamation?
This whole thing is getting way too out of hand. Are the Democrats really that dumb that they couldn’t listen to even 20 seconds more audio from the show in question? Don’t answer that, we already know the answer.
Harkin is a ass. What goes through their minds to pretend that they are something they are not.
I am a Army Vet from the Viet Nam ERA. I never served in the Nam but I served 6 years active. I am proud of that and I don’t need to pretend I did anything different.
Harkin, you can kiss my *ss.
Ah least he’s a vet. More than can be said about Bush and Cheney.
Isn’t it ironic (or more appropriately, moronic) that a “false soldier” is condemning Rush for his “false soldier” comment? It must have hit too close to home for Harkin whose own chest-beating deeds of heroism proved to be exagerated, if not completely false. Once a liar, always a liar!
Currently, i am a registered democrat here in North Carolina, I am telling you that this is not the democrat party that i and my grandfather remember now they are targeting a U.S. citizen? Wow.
I think i better go my board of elections and change my party affilation and soon.
There’s almost nothing to say. The Dems are an actual enemy of this country. This is not hyperbole-they are the enemy. They are disgusting in their do-anything attempts at gaining power…
Yes it is, but one has to ask why Harkin would be such a fool to try to criticize Limbaugh for the “phony soldiers” nonsense when Harkin himself is a classic example of the kind of disonesty that Limbaugh was referring to.
I suspect the answer is that to the left (read, “Democrats”) it’s become all about “The Narrative” — repeating the same accusations over and over again in an attempt to bootstrap them into “common knowledge,” and thence into “established fact.”
For all their supposed fear of how America is becoming a “fascist state,” it sure is ironic that the most accomplished practitioners of the Josef Goebbels “Big Lie” technique are the leftists who warn about how we’re becoming a “fascist state.”
Harkin knows damn well that his fellow leftists have already internalized The Narrative that “O’Reilly is a ‘racist’” and “Limbaugh is ‘anti-troop.’” They don’t care that the allegations are false, or that Harkin is himself a proven liar on the subject.
What Harkin must be hoping for is that non-leftists who are uninformed or ill-informed will buy into it too, along the lines of, “They keep saying it, so it must be true.”
To loosely paraphrase Stephen Decatur,
“My Narrative, may it always be right; but my Narrative, uber alles.”
Good one les. Very clever. Playing the I hate Bush & Cheney card was masterful.
les
Get a clue, even National Guard service qualifies as being a veteran.
Rush has referred to Harkin as “dung heap Harkin” for years. The “dung heap” goes back to Harkin referring to the charges against rapist Bill Clinton as “a heap of dung”. Rush captured it in nickname form for the ages.
Also, Harkin was the leftist douche who joined soldier-hater John Kerry in polishing the knob of Marxist Daniel Ortega in Nicaragua back in the 1970s.
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Wow, Harkin’s service is almost as minor and misreported as that of our President!
Harkin must be really, really dumb to set himself up like that.
I called Dinghy Harrys office today when I geard of his OUTRAGEOUS comments on the Senate floor. The operator asked me what had happened because the line was flooded…I told her how he was lying about what Rush had said and added that he was a “jackass”…she was laughing. I never did get through to either of these clowns…Liar, Liar Pants on Fire….Do these people have any shame?
As I recall, President Bush flew fighters for the Texas Air National Guard… and given the length of time it takes to train a fighter pilot, it wouldn’t surprise me if he had more active-duty time under his belt than “war hero” John Kerry.
Are you saying that reservists can’t be veterans?
Les, indeed, one can always expect LESS from a leftist that invokes the “did you serve” mantra, the Holy Grail of liberal throw-downs. As if military service is a requisite for serving one’s country, considering how Jack Murtha, retired Marine, disparaged and impugned our military with his conduct, in some cases service to one’s country can be followed up with a whole of DIS-SERVICE and Sedition. Go back to your room, Les.
Harkin’s problem wasn’t that others were “misreporting” his service a la Mary Mapes and Dan Rather. It was that he was lying about its particulars. Harkin got into hot water when the truth came out, not the other way around.
Just went on a tour of all the left of center blogs and they are still buying into the debunked idea that Rush was criticizing the troops.
They are running lock step with Reid and the Media Matters spin despite all the evidence that tears down their little talking points.
Dan Rather must feel really dumb now, after going through all the trouble to pass off those forged documents.
Les,
Knock it off with the “vet” thing. I’m AD Navy. Being a “vet” is not a license to lie, nor does it give a someone a pass if he or she is stupid. BTW please spare us the “Bush lied” Democrat trance chant.
Got to love it, media matters keeps digging and is now called the AP liars about a story they did on the Rush commentary
To paraphrase that old joke …
How can you tell if a politician is lying ?
Their lips are moving …
Need I say more?
Harkin, Kerry, Murtha. What do these Dems have in common? Hmmmm.
Frank Siegler
Thanks for your service … you will find that many of us here are similar in background with time in the military like yours …
les-
By the comments on the board, I was going to say something very pithy-but it looks like you have been slapped around worse than the S/M exhibit in San Francisco.
BTW-I am not only just a vet, I am also retired from the greatest sea going service in the world:
THE UNITED STATES NAVY
Never flew a combat mission, and will not embellish my military record to claim honors that aren’t mine. At least my medals came from my CO, and I didn’t have to go outside the COC to get another CO to sign off a combat award
Can comrade kerry claim that?
It was a corny waste of time for the republicans to go though with their “betray us” condemning resolution last week, and now the Dems are further wasting time with their tit for tat efforts against Limbaugh. It’s no wonder how our government is ineffective when it’s run by people with the minds of junior high kids. Can the parties please ignore the media extremes on both sides and try to find solutions for our country?
Buck I … I agree it is a waste of time but at least the Republicans were objecting to something grounded in fact … not a made up story from a leftist website using selected text from a radio program and representing it in a totally false manner …
gunslingerpatriot – great to meet an other squid. I work in DC in DoD Health Affairs.
Been reading all of you for a few months, and glad to be part of the family now.
Again…caught hiding behind the podium. And besides, what’s one more little lie between those important Senators anyway?
F/u to GSP #67-
I don’t have any combat awards and won’t make that claim-there are enough of our young vets with Purple Hearts, Bronze Stars and etc that have earned them many times over, something comrade kerry or murtha can’t claim.
btw-murtha didn’t serve 37 years on active duty with the Marine Corps, just 37 years that is a combination of active and reserve time combined (rebuttal to sen. reid’s senate comment)
augustine-welcome and you will find several active duty, vets, retirees and military supporters on this blog.
Thanks MM
I myself did lots of years poking holes in the ocean at depths greater than 300 feet faster than 20 knots.
welcome to Augustine …
hey … GSP … scared me there … I had to read that #72 a couple of times to figure out what you meant by the “F/u” … whew …
I agree this is NOT the dempcratic party of old, it has been over run with Soros socialists. Beware the NEW democratic party, the party of deceit!
Man is Rush gonna have a field day tomorrow! This is just too delicious for words. A PHONY SOLDIER criticizes Rush Limbaugh’s phony soldiers remark. Honestly, how can the MSM miss the pure, poetic symmetry on this one. This is what the old folks mean when they say, “It’s like shootin’ fish in a barrel.”
People need to drop an email or call to the GOP and their Senators, telling them to get off the snide and call the Dems out!
Most of the left side blogs are hyping that congress should pull Rush off of Armed Forces Radio.
Hey the troops were polled who they wanted to listen to years ago and they by large margins requested the show.
has anyone else seen this ‘republican boy’ video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kzjv290VL0s
Harkin has been trying to introduce amendments for years to get Rush and Hannity pulled from the AFRTS but somehow he had no objections about Air America being on the program list.
Poor, Tom. It is so sad to see him suffering from those delusions of grandeur. Can’t you see how he confused ferrying with combat?
I have major flights logged bombing the crap out of Iran in my dreams.
aj … more of that california dreaming huh? …
Thanks for the welcome all…and Michelle thank you so much for all your support!
When I look at most of the left of center blogs staying in line with the Media Matters game plan it brings to question the reading comprehension of those blogs and also shows their fact checking is on scale with that of TNR.
Since there are so many in lockstep and avoiding the truth of the matter, they are walking out on a limb that is getting thinner by the hour.
It is amazing that they are willing to risk their credibility on such a small matter.
well. I see the girl of my dreams everday so the night is free for the serious stuff.
right on aj …
The plot thickens — will these Dems stoop any lower? They are going to provide the new definition of the term low if they keep going on this.
Richard Romano
they still have a ways to go to reach that Whale crap level on the bottom of the oceans … but they are definitely on the downhill ride to get there …
Email Senator Harkin two words: FERRY PILOT???
http://harkin.senate.gov/contact/contact.cfm
as a faithful ditto-head since the tender age of 14, i always hate seeing Rush attacked. and when i need assurance that the Left will always lose in the end, i simply listen to the maha-rushi himself and all is right with the world again.
Just when you thought the socialists in the Senate couldn’t sink any lower they always continue to amaze.
Notice I said “socialists,” not liberals or demorats.
BTW, Michelle, thank you for opening up the registration so I could finally post on your website. It is an honor.
They are just starting to find the low of low, this is where they are comfortable. I predict they will drop much lower.