Report: Aayan Hirsi Ali leaves the U.S., can’t afford security costs
This is a damned, damned shame.
I can’t believe she couldn’t find private individuals to help her out. Will someone step up to the plate?
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NO! This is a REAL bummer and very troubling, I will pray no harm befalls her.
Only slightly facetious – move to Texas. Buy a gun. Your neighbors will all have guns too. When the jihadis show up, fire at will.
And just exactly how much dd wee spend protectng Ahmadhimmijihad???
Amen, AlohaGuy.
Believe me, I plan on exercising my Second Admendment rights – whether against jihadists or home-grown, garden variety thugs.
I’m so sorry Hirsi cannot be safe in America. I think this bodes badly for the rest of us – especially women, Christians, and those critical of Islam.
wow…..”did we spend protecting”
Totally crazy! Who could imagine the U.S. would fall behind The Netherlands in providing security for someone who has been condemned to death by radical Islam.
What peeves me is that the feminist movement in this country is quiet as a mouse when it comes to a strong woman like Ali standing up to male oppression. Where are they, why doesn’t Oprah do a whole week on her? And no, we can’t afford to protect her because Hillary is too busy promising billions of dollars for people to have children in this country…I mean, what’s more important than the poor children…WON’T SOMEONE PLEASE SAVE THE CHILDREN!!! /sarcasm
So, she is now back in a country from which she had to flee in the first place out of for fear her safety?…damned shame indeed.
I read the comments over at HotAir, but I’m not registered as a commentor over there (unfortunately…). She’s not like the average, everyday American citizen. We, as individuals, don’t have prices on our heads, with “religious leaders” calling for our murders for offending the faith. Just for the PR value of her (raised Muslim) speaking out about it – it should be factored in as a cost of fighting the War on Terror…
I don’t understand why it would be so difficult and costly to protect her. She should just live in a gated community with an unlisted address and phone number.
I think possibly she was using more protection than she needed. I’m not saying I’m glad that she is leaving, but surely there is an inexpensive way for someone to live quietly, invisibly, and well in America at an affordable rate (especially for a best selling author.)
She could probably do more good in the Netherlands anyway. . . and with her living there, they’ll foot the bill. I bought her book. . . that’s as much help as I can give her at the moment.
Maybe Soros could give some money?
Or Rosie O’Donnell could loan an armed bodyguard?
She could run around with Paris Hilton, the defensive ring of papparazzi would be hard to get through for even the toughest jihadi.
/sarc
I have to wonder whether the fact she was processed for and given a green card provided an excuse to the powers that be in the Netherlands to stop spending their money to protect her …
They don’t stand up for ANY Islamic woman – no matter how horrible.
Burquas? Not a peep.
Female circumcision? Feminists are silent.
Honor killings? Feminists ignore them.
Laws prohibiting women from diving, voting, being educated, or working? Doesn’t bother feminists at all.
Even recently, we saw a German judge rule against an Muslim woman seeking a divorce because the judge found, based on the Koran, this wife was the “property” of her husband and therefore his abuse (her grounds for divorce) was permissible.
Or this case, about a husband who ripped out his wife’s eyes when she refused to have sex with him.
But even mention the slightest restriction on abortion laws, or the blasphemous notion of offering women ultrasounds prior to an abortion, and the feminists will be there in droves to protect “women’s rights.”
Feminists don’t care about women, and they don’t care about Muslim women who are abused. It’s a joke.
Cant afford security for her? this coming from a Gov. that spends $400.00 for a hammer.
Question for an expert: On what legal basis would the US government provide taxpayer funded protection for a private individual (regardless of US citizenship status)? I agree that it’s a shame that Hirsi must return to the Netherlands and that she is doing some great things, but I don’t think you can blame the US government for this. Other than the whack jobs who would threaten her health and safety, I don’t think there’s any blame to be assigned here. I think the private sector needs to step up to the plate on this one.
BTW, englishqueen, hyperbole is a classic argument killer. I don’t know this for sure, but I’m guessing there have been “feminists” who have spoken out against the misogyny of extreme Islam. C’mon now. I remember a bunch of coverage concerning the abuses heaped on women by the Taliban.
They could’ve offered her the people that we provided to Achmedinajad for protection.
I’m sure that as a foreign el Presidente’ he was offered some form of protection.
So…we offer protection to a known terrorist that our own government has the goods on….but we won’t offer protection to a courageous woman who stands up to his type.
Un-freakin-believable.
Boo frickin’ hoo. There are a hundred ways my tax dollars could be better spent than carting some obscure author around. Honestly, the Spice Girls concert is more news worthy than this.
MrVibeman, I think you miss the point. Private citizen vs. a recognized head of state (evil dictator or not) on an official visit to the US. Not sure about you, but I’m pretty sure I don’t want my tax dollars paying for the protection of private individuals (especially non-US citizens) not conducting official government business.
Somehow ya just know when ya got one that won’t be around these parts for long.
Quoting myself…
Government investment in agricultural and biofuels research comes to mind. That helps everyone. Also, they could turn the road I drive to work on into a four lane. That would make my commute a whole lot less stressful and best of all, it would probably even save lives.
Paying for this woman’s security entourage (regardless of why she even needs one) would be akin to throwing money at the loser “artistic” types that populate Star Bucks and health food stores.
Can the Dutch government be trusted to provide adequate security for this brave woman?
If this is made a cause celeb and the US government is shamed into offering her security – it was going to give the Iranian Nutjob-In-Chief Secret Service security to profane Ground Zero – will she return?
This also might be a great PR chance for a large private security firm to donate it’s services.
Interesting, is it not, that U. S. taxpayers are spending enough to fund construction of mosques on military bases, Muslim footbaths on at least one major university campus, the start-up for the Khalil Gilbran School in NYC, social services for illegal aliens, in-state tuition for illegal aliens, free medical care for illegal aliens, driver’s licenses for illegal aliens, but, alas, no funds can be found to give a little refuge and protection to a real anti-Sharia stalwart who is now the marked-for-death prey of The Wonderful World of Islam.
So, once they track her down I suppose we’ll get video footage of the murder a la Daniel Pearl, Eric Johnson, et al on some Muslim jihad website.
Shame on us and shame on our government. We Yanks had better find some courage for the fight while there’s still time. Europe’s secular days are looking rather numbered.
They don’t provide security for our own citizens – either from Islamic terrorist threats (Robert Spencer, and others like him) or illegal immigrants (see the archive for some notion). Why are we surprised that they would not provide security for a newcomer?
purplepeep , bingo, its a dead give away.
= Liberal
(they love to hear themselves talk,,,even better, they love to quote their own quotes…)
WEll, John, that would be absolutely peachy…IF WE WERE TALKING ABOUT BIO-FUELS, but that doesn’t happen to be the topic now…does it?
Read her book, figure out why she needs protection, then come back and play.
Thanks.
I remember that too. Sadly (though predictably) it all stopped when a religious conservative actually did something about it.
It’s not so much that they don’t care about women as it is they will do anything to avoid being on the same side as Bush on any issue.
The larger issue here is not whether the U.S. governement should pay for her security. (It should not. If Robert Spencer can figure out how to stay safe, Ms. Hirsi Ali can as well.) The real issue is that this is a problem at all! We all know it is not those pesky Amish or Methodists that are the threat. It is that wonderful religion of peace. I have yet to ever hear of some “moderate” imam condeming the threat of violence against people such as Ms. Ali.
Yup – being informed does make a difference, babe! Then a person doesn’t need to quote himself so often, as a side benefit.
feebie, I’ll repeat my original query to you specifically: On what legal basis would the US government be permitted under the LAW to spend taxpayer money to fund the protection of a private individual (a non-citizen one at that) not conducting official government business? I’m looking for an actual factual answer, not an emotional response.
What a sad story. I can’t believe this administration wouldn’t think it worthwhile to see that we could keep someone like her on these shores.
Shame on us.
Of course some feminists speak out about issues such as this. But for the most part, they do remain silent. Or they march in support of terrorist organizations like Hamas or Hezbollah. I honestly can’t remember the last time a prominant feminist has spoken out against the injustices women face in many of the Arab cultures.
The same legal basis that forces US taxpayers to fund an Islamic public school and airport footbaths for Islamists.
Okay I am missing something here.
Yes, I support her and what she says and does, but why should the Government pay for security for foreign national private citizens? I 100% agree with Rohan that Robert Spencer says things that also make the terrorist cringe and want to kill him, but I have heard nothing about the Government supplying security for him. Heck, she is not even a US citizen, unlike Mr. Spencer.
I also don’t understand why she is leaving the US when this is the safest country in the world for her to be in now. How many in the US have been gun down in the streets when compared to the Netherlands?
dakine,
did i say i thought the government should pay for it? perhaps you should re-read my original comment. I would hope some private donor would step forward. Like, MM has stated above.
But, on that note…if I could suspend reality, I would rather take the cost of protection and care of Manuel Noriega (non-citizen of the US) in his cozy FL digs and give that to Ms. Ali, someone clearly deserving of tax dollars over a drug trafficing thug.
But admittedly, No, I cannot give you a law…but I CAN tell you it has nothing to do with Biofuels.
Fair?
Give her the people they give Hillary, Silky and B. Hussein Obama.
#21 purplepeep said:
Now that sounds like a very good suggestion!
No secret service protection; are they still paying the rent on Hill & Bill’s Chappaqua mansion?
Blackwater could use some good publicity ’bout now…
Argh! NO! The Dutch PEOPLE long ago refused to have her around because they were frightened to have anyone around that needed this kind of security! (and attracted jihadi attentions) Her own neighbors in a high security building worked to push her out! And, frankly, how much attention can one be paying to EU Islamo-politics if they aren’t aware that a certain nordic country just crushed a peaceful rally AGAINST Sharia and Jihad? Europe will not protect this woman. I’m ashamed that we evidently can’t. Government, NGO, private citizens; I don’t care who does it, it needs done.
America should be a non-Jihad zone!
What a shame! but we can spend taxpayer dollar$ on all kinds of not needed crap……
purplepeep said:
damn right!!!!!!
It’s a shame she had to leave.
feebie, thanks for the clarification.
jose and purple, I realize that you trying to be clever and make a philosophical point, but I was actually seeking a technical, legal answer. Thanks anyway.
It’s redundant at this point in the thread to say this is a shame, but I can’t think of what else to call it but that. I admire this woman so much for her courage in speaking out against Islam and its despicable treatment of women. I pray she remains safe. The fact that she wasn’t even needed security here in America is a truly sad thing.
Er, that should be “the fact that she even needed security”. Guess I should start using the preview button.
It’s not congress’ money to give. I agree that it is a shame that she was too afraid to stay, but all the same, it’s not healthy for the government to spend appropriated funds for things that are not constitutionally mandated. Please read this.
MM – it’s Ayaan, not Aayan.
I would say that Ayaan Hirsi Ali and Robert Spencer are non-uniformed soldiers risking their lives in defense of the West. AHA’s friend Theo van Gogh was murdered for daring to tell the truth about Islam’s misogyny. These are the people who can wake up the West. Most of us post anonymously. I think we ought to be able to do better for people like AHA.
I am 100 serious there, dakne; what is the “technical, legal answer” for taxpayers picking up the tab for Muslim public schools and Muslim footbaths at public airports?
If you can answer that you maybe got a point – otherwise nope. And I suspect we can offer up a whole lot more taxpayer funded “ponderables” in that vein for you to explain “technically” and “legally”.
She wrote a book wow.So she slapped around Islamic fundamentalism. Once again,…so what.I cant afford a private security team either. Thats why I carry a knife and own a gun.
It seems a shame that we can’t find a way to keep this remarkable woman here and safe. She has more guts and brains than both houses of congress. BTW, how did foot-baths get past the Separation of Church and State crowd?
With all due respect, you don’t have a fatwa issued against you for your head on a silver platter either. Sleep well.
With all due respect. About 4 million of them want you dead along with the rest of America.
#48 – that is a weak argument and you know it.
It’s a sad day when our government can’t protect those individuals who seek to protect us. To me this issue raises a big red flag.
I agree with Dadog, she needs to stay here and avail herself of what our founding fathers gave us; the right to bear arms (which I am sure you cannot do in netherlands). She can learn to shoot anywhere in America and what an empowering statement it would make to the Muslims and the perma-dhimmis when Aayan sent her first jihadist to his virgins, courtesy of Smith and Wesson. Make my day.
Given a choice between protecting this woman I’ve never heard of and making your commute less stressful…….I’m for providing whatever protection she needs.
An amazing book by an amazing woman. And this is a damn shame. I just hope VanGogh’s fate doesn’t await her back there.
I’m not an expert on this subject but going somewhere else, other than American where free speech and freedom from/of religion are constitutionally guaranteed, does not seem to be a very good self preservation strategy. If Ms. Ali’s civil rights are being violated the FBI takes a dim view of those who are so involved.
lets not forget that Ms Ali is a proven LIAR. she lied to gain entry into europe (an illegal immigrant).
on any other day……she’d be kicked out of america by the very folk trying to defend her.
kouti says,
Am I correct that she lied to get into Europe because she was on the run from the jihadis? If so, then I’d sponsor her here in Big D, illegal or not. Big difference between running from a stoning and running toward welfare freebies.
She is a courageous woman I’d be proud to have as a friend. May she live safely in peace.
TMoney said
incorrect……..she lied to gain asylum in europe. she came from a wealthy family.
Troy thanks for that link to story about Col. David Crockett because it is one of the best I have read in a long time.
Troy thanks for that link to story about Col. David Crockett because it is one of the best I have read in a long time.
Just more punishment for those trying to help defeat islamo thugs. What a shame, maybe she should just say she has been threaten by the RNC. Then they would be tripping over themselves to “help” her.
Nope, America routinely gives asylum to those who come here legally – as she did – especially those fleeing oppression. But, ironically enough, “on any other day” you would demand that she be given instant citizenship if this brave woman had come to America illegally.
By the way, we spell “America” with a capital “A”. (And no “k”)
Kouti:
Ohhh, I get it. Thanks, for enligtening us. So if you have a lot of money, and speak against Islam…then you won’t get stoned or beheaded. Gee, that sure makes sense.
sarcasm off/
You are a fool.
purple:
Correct, when Iran gov switched in the 80;s my friend was granted political asylum because they would have shot his father and made him (at 7 years old) serve in the military.
HIm and his family have been productive members of our society ever since and I am very proud to have them as close friends.
America needs to protect all of its propagandists.
They are too busy shopping for, washing and ironing their pink shirts.
Blackwater to the rescue!!!
you’re going to alst for another 2 days here. Nice knowing you
purplepeep said:
just happen to turn a blind eye to Ms Ali lying her way to asylum in europe.
call it poetic justice that the hapless Ms Ali has been turfed out of america. no one too keen to stump up the money to protect her
if only, LOL
She can’t be a patriot as of yet, but she has been quite useful as an anti-islam propagandist for our war against terror. So, yes. She’s far more effective than dropping leaflets.