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	<title>Comments on: Miller: The beer of open-borders and S&amp;M</title>
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		<title>By: Illiberal Virtuosity</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/10/02/miller-the-beer-of-open-borders-and-sm/comment-page-1/#comment-140736</link>
		<dc:creator>Illiberal Virtuosity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 01:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] From here, it looks like we are hurtling towards it.  Michelle Malkin brings us more including how Miller Beer helped support the event and photos of CHILDREN, yes CHILDREN actually in ATTENDANCE at this sideshow of sick and twisted [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] From here, it looks like we are hurtling towards it.  Michelle Malkin brings us more including how Miller Beer helped support the event and photos of CHILDREN, yes CHILDREN actually in ATTENDANCE at this sideshow of sick and twisted [...]</p>
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		<title>By: MrVIBEMAN</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/10/02/miller-the-beer-of-open-borders-and-sm/comment-page-1/#comment-138591</link>
		<dc:creator>MrVIBEMAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 12:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here was the &#039;official&#039; reply from Miller Co. to my email to them concerning my desire to switch to Bud Select based on their support of the Folsom Street Fair.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Thank you for contacting Miller Brewing Company. While Miller has supported the Folsom Street Fair for several years, we take exception to the poster the organizing committee developed this year. We understand some individuals may find the imagery offensive and we have asked the organizers to remove our logo from the poster effective immediately. We regret that our failure to adhere to our own policy led to an inappropriate use of our trademark and apologize to anyone who was offended as a result, particularly members of the Christian community who have contacted us to express their concern. We are conducting an immediate audit of our procedures for approving local marketing and sales sponsorships to ensure that this does not happen again. It is important to understand that the Folsom Street Fair does not target the general public in its communications. The fair itself and the organization’s website are only intended for the adult alternative lifestyle community. Sincerely, Miller Brewing Company Consumer Affairs Department&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Notice they make no mention of not supporting the fair next year. They also try to defend the fair, saying that &quot;the fair itself and the organization&#039;s website are only intended for the adult alternative lifestyle commmunity.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here was the &#8216;official&#8217; reply from Miller Co. to my email to them concerning my desire to switch to Bud Select based on their support of the Folsom Street Fair.</p>
<blockquote><p>Thank you for contacting Miller Brewing Company. While Miller has supported the Folsom Street Fair for several years, we take exception to the poster the organizing committee developed this year. We understand some individuals may find the imagery offensive and we have asked the organizers to remove our logo from the poster effective immediately. We regret that our failure to adhere to our own policy led to an inappropriate use of our trademark and apologize to anyone who was offended as a result, particularly members of the Christian community who have contacted us to express their concern. We are conducting an immediate audit of our procedures for approving local marketing and sales sponsorships to ensure that this does not happen again. It is important to understand that the Folsom Street Fair does not target the general public in its communications. The fair itself and the organization’s website are only intended for the adult alternative lifestyle community. Sincerely, Miller Brewing Company Consumer Affairs Department</p></blockquote>
<p>Notice they make no mention of not supporting the fair next year. They also try to defend the fair, saying that &#8220;the fair itself and the organization&#8217;s website are only intended for the adult alternative lifestyle commmunity.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: mojoe</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/10/02/miller-the-beer-of-open-borders-and-sm/comment-page-1/#comment-138336</link>
		<dc:creator>mojoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 00:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, I had read Nikoyaka&#039;s post and was trying to formulate what I wanted to say.

Then I saw:
&lt;strong&gt;On October 2nd, 2007 at 6:39 pm, bear1909 said:&lt;/strong&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;Now&lt;/strong&gt; all I&#039;ve got to say is; bear...You sir are the MAN.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I had read Nikoyaka&#8217;s post and was trying to formulate what I wanted to say.</p>
<p>Then I saw:<br />
<strong>On October 2nd, 2007 at 6:39 pm, bear1909 said:</strong></p>
<p><strong>Now</strong> all I&#8217;ve got to say is; bear&#8230;You sir are the MAN.</p>
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		<title>By: Ringo the Gringo</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/10/02/miller-the-beer-of-open-borders-and-sm/comment-page-1/#comment-138319</link>
		<dc:creator>Ringo the Gringo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 00:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the fathers of the dog-collar wearing toddlers, Dr. John Kruse,&lt;strong&gt; is a San Francisco psychiatrist&lt;/strong&gt;. The phone number of his office can be &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sftherapy.org/SupportResource.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;found here &lt;/a&gt;(about 3/4 of the way down the page).

Their trip to the &quot;fair&quot; took place in 2005,  so the girls are now 4 or 5 years old.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the fathers of the dog-collar wearing toddlers, Dr. John Kruse,<strong> is a San Francisco psychiatrist</strong>. The phone number of his office can be <a href="http://www.sftherapy.org/SupportResource.html" rel="nofollow">found here </a>(about 3/4 of the way down the page).</p>
<p>Their trip to the &#8220;fair&#8221; took place in 2005,  so the girls are now 4 or 5 years old.</p>
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		<title>By: bear1909</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/10/02/miller-the-beer-of-open-borders-and-sm/comment-page-1/#comment-138317</link>
		<dc:creator>bear1909</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 23:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BOB- My pleasure.  Glad to oblige.  

That term racist has a very narrow meaning and is best used to describe systems that have disparate negative impacts on racial groups.

To use it as a label for a person is misguided.

Racial prejudice is a complicated subject that cannot be boiled down to a term which can be used to silence another person who is only as informed about the issues as they have studied them and dedicated themselves to a practice of organizing communities across racial lines for a common end that is just for all involved.

I don&#039;t spend much time listening to people who haven&#039;t been down that road because experience is the best teacher.

The current homosexual lobbyists agenda and the Reconquista lobbyists agenda is not for a common good.  It is to split and tear apart a political fabric of a Nation that they do not perceive with any clarity.

THe mistake they make as they try to &quot;Take Back&quot; and &quot;Take Over&quot; American society is that they perceive our tranquility and mistake it for docility.

Only when they hear the cocking and locking of our guns will they realize that all of this agitation they are reading in blogs and in chat rooms and on our talk show is the precursor for the Giant to awaken- with &quot;great resolve&quot;.

I am filled with hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BOB- My pleasure.  Glad to oblige.  </p>
<p>That term racist has a very narrow meaning and is best used to describe systems that have disparate negative impacts on racial groups.</p>
<p>To use it as a label for a person is misguided.</p>
<p>Racial prejudice is a complicated subject that cannot be boiled down to a term which can be used to silence another person who is only as informed about the issues as they have studied them and dedicated themselves to a practice of organizing communities across racial lines for a common end that is just for all involved.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t spend much time listening to people who haven&#8217;t been down that road because experience is the best teacher.</p>
<p>The current homosexual lobbyists agenda and the Reconquista lobbyists agenda is not for a common good.  It is to split and tear apart a political fabric of a Nation that they do not perceive with any clarity.</p>
<p>THe mistake they make as they try to &#8220;Take Back&#8221; and &#8220;Take Over&#8221; American society is that they perceive our tranquility and mistake it for docility.</p>
<p>Only when they hear the cocking and locking of our guns will they realize that all of this agitation they are reading in blogs and in chat rooms and on our talk show is the precursor for the Giant to awaken- with &#8220;great resolve&#8221;.</p>
<p>I am filled with hope.</p>
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		<title>By: ajmontana</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/10/02/miller-the-beer-of-open-borders-and-sm/comment-page-1/#comment-138315</link>
		<dc:creator>ajmontana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 23:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not Homophobic, I love milk.
 oh, that&#039;s homogenized, ...nevermind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not Homophobic, I love milk.<br />
 oh, that&#8217;s homogenized, &#8230;nevermind.</p>
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		<title>By: ajmontana</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/10/02/miller-the-beer-of-open-borders-and-sm/comment-page-1/#comment-138313</link>
		<dc:creator>ajmontana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 23:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harry Reid = another useless term.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harry Reid = another useless term.</p>
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		<title>By: BOB</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/10/02/miller-the-beer-of-open-borders-and-sm/comment-page-1/#comment-138307</link>
		<dc:creator>BOB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 23:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the info bear, I&#039;d say &quot;homophobic&quot; is a meaningless term, right there with the current use of the word &quot;racist&quot;. These terms are meant to demean anyone who disagrees with those using the terms...no one cares anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the info bear, I&#8217;d say &#8220;homophobic&#8221; is a meaningless term, right there with the current use of the word &#8220;racist&#8221;. These terms are meant to demean anyone who disagrees with those using the terms&#8230;no one cares anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Heartland Perspective</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/10/02/miller-the-beer-of-open-borders-and-sm/comment-page-1/#comment-138299</link>
		<dc:creator>Heartland Perspective</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 23:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>End of a lifetime of only drinking Miller for me.  The only thing that talks is money and they aren&#039;t getting any more from me.  Any company that supports this deranged filth in any way cannot be tolerated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>End of a lifetime of only drinking Miller for me.  The only thing that talks is money and they aren&#8217;t getting any more from me.  Any company that supports this deranged filth in any way cannot be tolerated.</p>
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		<title>By: feebiebabe</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/10/02/miller-the-beer-of-open-borders-and-sm/comment-page-1/#comment-138290</link>
		<dc:creator>feebiebabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 22:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah...uh, what bear said.  LOL.  Good job.

140min...I&#039;d drop dead...30 min Feebs&#039; max (not including bratty doggie walks).  Course, I don&#039;t drink mush...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah&#8230;uh, what bear said.  LOL.  Good job.</p>
<p>140min&#8230;I&#8217;d drop dead&#8230;30 min Feebs&#8217; max (not including bratty doggie walks).  Course, I don&#8217;t drink mush&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: bear1909</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/10/02/miller-the-beer-of-open-borders-and-sm/comment-page-1/#comment-138279</link>
		<dc:creator>bear1909</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 22:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aw now, feebie. 8)  My bear mush concoction is a supreme strength and fitness recipe that allows a bear to work out 140 minutes a day.  

Nothin could be finer!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aw now, feebie. <img src='http://michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' />  My bear mush concoction is a supreme strength and fitness recipe that allows a bear to work out 140 minutes a day.  </p>
<p>Nothin could be finer!</p>
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		<title>By: bear1909</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/10/02/miller-the-beer-of-open-borders-and-sm/comment-page-1/#comment-138276</link>
		<dc:creator>bear1909</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 22:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Homophobic. A BS term for a BS argument.

The fear is being projected from a community that has over the years experienced violence for being homosexuals.

Homosexuals to varying degrees as individuals learn to live with this fear.

As do blacks who fear racialized violence.

As do Indians who fear racialized violence.

As do women who fear sexualized violence.

To reduce all of the violence in the world perpetrated onto people who fear that violence- a fear that is warranted and verifiable- is to reduce the matters involved to the absurd.

It is to ignore that the root cause of violence, rage, and assault is not &quot;fear&quot; of somebody else.  No, not by a long shot.

Do this work in neighborhoods, as I have done, and you will see, that the violence stems from anger masking &lt;strong&gt; unacknowledged HURT (pain) &lt;/strong&gt;.

&quot;Homophobic&quot; and &quot;homophobia&quot; are terms used by activists to create co-dependence within the communities they are intending to serve.  But these terms do not teach people to be accountable for their own behavior that keeps them addicted to victimhood and the hierarchies that keeps them beholden to in their own &quot;communities&quot;.

For me to be called &quot;homophobic&quot; because I call out the brewers of Miller Beer and the homosexual BDSM leather daddies who parade in front of children,  is nonsensical because I do not fear these males who have been taught to believe that &quot;real masculinity&quot; is nothing more than being honest about who they are.

And so they can justify masturbating in public, out in the open; as if, this requires courage or honesty to do what is usually reserved for the privacy of one&#039;s own home or with one&#039;s mate, lover, etc.

I don&#039;t know of any ethnic cultural enclave in the known universe that has public masturbation being taught as a feat of manhood.

So it is the homosexual who is mired in phobia about himself.  His fear of abandonment- because he is a homosexual, he is therefore homophobic.  His fear of losing love or not being able to receive love- because he is a homosexual, he is therefore homophobic.  His fear of poverty- because he is a homosexual and doesn&#039;t want to die poor, is therefore homophobic.  The list goes on and on.

HOMOPHOBIC is a projective term used by activists to give the dependent ones a language to try and name the pain they feel.  

For the homosexual who knows who he is and deals with life on life&#039;s terms-  he doesn&#039;t need to project any fears through a language that keeps the fear from being dealt with.

And so we have had the great men of the ages who were homosexual, making contributions to society and civilization- not masturbating in public like a lunatic.

I have known many homosexual men who I count as some of the finest men I&#039;ve had the honor of standing with.  And we have spent many hours talking about what our lives and loves have been like- our families, our disappointments, our triumphs.

One thing is clear to me about homosexuals- as it is clear to me about heterosexuals,  we bleed the same color and feel with our hearts, and think with our brains.

To those who want to make a social empire out of their &quot;oppression&quot;, I have only this to say:  &lt;strong&gt;&quot;You believe that that work is your calling.  But did anybody else hear that phone ring?&quot;&lt;/strong&gt;

I&#039;ve spent almost the better part of 2 decades cleaning up my side of the street.  To those who point the finger at me and say &quot;Homophobic&quot; I encourage you to look at those three fingers on that hand with which you point to me- and see how they are pointing back at you.

Bear1909 out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Homophobic. A BS term for a BS argument.</p>
<p>The fear is being projected from a community that has over the years experienced violence for being homosexuals.</p>
<p>Homosexuals to varying degrees as individuals learn to live with this fear.</p>
<p>As do blacks who fear racialized violence.</p>
<p>As do Indians who fear racialized violence.</p>
<p>As do women who fear sexualized violence.</p>
<p>To reduce all of the violence in the world perpetrated onto people who fear that violence- a fear that is warranted and verifiable- is to reduce the matters involved to the absurd.</p>
<p>It is to ignore that the root cause of violence, rage, and assault is not &#8220;fear&#8221; of somebody else.  No, not by a long shot.</p>
<p>Do this work in neighborhoods, as I have done, and you will see, that the violence stems from anger masking <strong> unacknowledged HURT (pain) </strong>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Homophobic&#8221; and &#8220;homophobia&#8221; are terms used by activists to create co-dependence within the communities they are intending to serve.  But these terms do not teach people to be accountable for their own behavior that keeps them addicted to victimhood and the hierarchies that keeps them beholden to in their own &#8220;communities&#8221;.</p>
<p>For me to be called &#8220;homophobic&#8221; because I call out the brewers of Miller Beer and the homosexual BDSM leather daddies who parade in front of children,  is nonsensical because I do not fear these males who have been taught to believe that &#8220;real masculinity&#8221; is nothing more than being honest about who they are.</p>
<p>And so they can justify masturbating in public, out in the open; as if, this requires courage or honesty to do what is usually reserved for the privacy of one&#8217;s own home or with one&#8217;s mate, lover, etc.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know of any ethnic cultural enclave in the known universe that has public masturbation being taught as a feat of manhood.</p>
<p>So it is the homosexual who is mired in phobia about himself.  His fear of abandonment- because he is a homosexual, he is therefore homophobic.  His fear of losing love or not being able to receive love- because he is a homosexual, he is therefore homophobic.  His fear of poverty- because he is a homosexual and doesn&#8217;t want to die poor, is therefore homophobic.  The list goes on and on.</p>
<p>HOMOPHOBIC is a projective term used by activists to give the dependent ones a language to try and name the pain they feel.  </p>
<p>For the homosexual who knows who he is and deals with life on life&#8217;s terms-  he doesn&#8217;t need to project any fears through a language that keeps the fear from being dealt with.</p>
<p>And so we have had the great men of the ages who were homosexual, making contributions to society and civilization- not masturbating in public like a lunatic.</p>
<p>I have known many homosexual men who I count as some of the finest men I&#8217;ve had the honor of standing with.  And we have spent many hours talking about what our lives and loves have been like- our families, our disappointments, our triumphs.</p>
<p>One thing is clear to me about homosexuals- as it is clear to me about heterosexuals,  we bleed the same color and feel with our hearts, and think with our brains.</p>
<p>To those who want to make a social empire out of their &#8220;oppression&#8221;, I have only this to say:  <strong>&#8220;You believe that that work is your calling.  But did anybody else hear that phone ring?&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve spent almost the better part of 2 decades cleaning up my side of the street.  To those who point the finger at me and say &#8220;Homophobic&#8221; I encourage you to look at those three fingers on that hand with which you point to me- and see how they are pointing back at you.</p>
<p>Bear1909 out.</p>
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		<title>By: feebiebabe</title>
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		<dc:creator>feebiebabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 22:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;On October 2nd, 2007 at 6:13 pm, ajmontana said: 
The bear runs on the more fuel efficient bear mush now. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

I don&#039;t even want to know!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On October 2nd, 2007 at 6:13 pm, ajmontana said:<br />
The bear runs on the more fuel efficient bear mush now. </p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t even want to know!</p>
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		<title>By: ajmontana</title>
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		<dc:creator>ajmontana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 22:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The bear runs on the more fuel efficient bear mush now. :lol:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bear runs on the more fuel efficient bear mush now. <img src='http://michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: bear1909</title>
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		<dc:creator>bear1909</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 22:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>aj-  a camel with 4 humps 8)</description>
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